Eidos and GameSpot forums exploding over Gerstmann incident

Although GameSpot and publisher Eidos have not yet made public statements over what led to the firing of GameSpot's Editorial Director Jeff Gertsmann, the accusation of publisher pressure is exploding all over the companies' forums. GameSpot currently has numerous threads on the incident, with one thread in particular having thousands of posts. Eidos has taken a different approach, locking down all threads on their site after apparently purging derogatory posts from thousands of angry gamers reacting to the rumor yesterday night.

[Fighter]

What other games were given better ratings because of lucrative endorsements. This goes for all the other sites as well.

[TOM]

I absolutely agree. ALL reviews form this site now come into question.With so many sites that give out game news,hter is NO REASON for me to ever visit their site again.And to tell the truth ,nothing they do will help me trust them again. After all,I played the game and a 6 rating in accurate.

[skillshot]

I have noticed recently (a few months) that Gamespots reviews seem weird. I've always loved the site in the past, but theres always things like 'Pros: Brilliant game play, very fun. Cons: zooming is fiddly. Verdict: 6/10'. By that I mean, they take trivial addons and rate the game lower because of it, as if the game would get a better rating if it took out an optional feature.

Gamers should band together and refuse to buy games that have forced good reviews upon reviewers.

[gamesR4fun]

but no matter how many post they delete gamers know whats what.

[MK_Red]

Good comment Cheech. Now all sites are under question because there have been many big ad campaigns in many of big sites including IGN and others.
I indeed wonder how many times the publisher pressure has changed the scores...

[TheHater]

From gamespot. I have to say all the games that feature full on ads on their sites have been influence by that company to give a good review to their game. I could name a few games that come to mind, but I will just start a flame war. I really don't like those flame wars.

[General Pinky]

Man.. i was a menber at gamespot for a good 4 years now if not more..and let me tell you Mr Gerstmann going, is not a good news..he was the best in every show they done..man...this s*cks..
I hate Eidos..they s**k balls

[PS360WII]

yea pretty crazy if ture. I'm sure Eidos had to close some of those threads for I'm sure there were plenty of slandering topics and statements. I think it's nearly impossible to have a civil argument with most gamers. Still doesn't look good though

[gamesblow]

I won't ever buy an Eidos game... Well, I never have but that's just beside the point. I really won't now... and I don't even care about Jeff, Gamespot or the situation. I just hate Eidos, Ubi-soft, THQ, EA sports and a whole host of other devs so I always look for easy outs.

[marinelife9]

I'll buy an Eidos game as long as it's not Tomb Raider and it's decent. However I won't be visiting Gamespot anytime soon.

[WilliamRLBaker]

im too busy laughing my ass off at all parties involved to pay attention!
lol

[Mu5afir]

If this is true, then it can be presumed M$ has paid off Gamespot before / currently to give such crappy reviews to Sony games. How can you trust a source that fires its employees (Editors), because of advertisement dollars. All previous Gamespot reviews of games comes into question.

[fredy]

who knows how many PS2 games got good scores when they were sh$t.

[creeping judas]

that if they took money from Microsoft, they also took money from Sony. And gave good reviews for whatever Sony paid for. Goes both ways.

[gamesR4fun]

ya for sure crooked to the core

[TheExecutive]

creeping judas... i dont see 360 games getting lower scores than they deserve. I have seen some reviews come out on gaming sites that bring their credibility into question both for the 360 and the PS3.

[creeping judas]

Thats exactly what I was trying to point out. It Brings everything into question, not just 360 reviews as Mu5 was pointing out.

[Hydrollex]

The site just got fuked up by itself ! Gamespot = Gayspot

EDIT: By the way, Jeff was telling the truth about Kane and Lyne. The game is the worst game ever made for this gen. Gamespot only thinks about money and fuk that

Did you see how many badwords I used ? 99% of the game use badwords.

[gamesblow]

I demand all Gamespot scores are striked from the record books!!

[Meus Renaissance]

Lets hear it for the man

[SL1M DADDY]

They have been nothing more than a site paid for by advertisement dollars for as long as I can remember. It's better to trust sites that do not rely on advertisement dollars, especially when the dollars are clearly from the game publishers that are getting their games reviewed.

[WilliamRLBaker]

much better to truth something that doesn't exist!!
there is no such thing as magazines and sites not based around ad dollars, if you want that then go read user reviews which are usally so biased there is no point....you cannot get a unbiased view from the common man thats not possible because the common man is lil more then an herd animal that follows the pack.

just because a magazine gets money from ads doesnt mean its staff is controled by those ads gamespot and ign happen to be those types of places but dont think a magazine or site that doesn't make money is gonna last long.

money makes the world go around and thats a fact and its been that way since the start, it was just in a different form through the ages, in the caveman days it was status and abbility to hunt in the troupe.

[N4M3L355]

I know he works for Gamespot, but what happened to freedom of speech? Yes, I know GS relies on the money of advertisers, but a bad game is a bad game. Also, it's just his opinion. Gametrailers gave this game an 8.0. It's not like he insulted IO or Eidos. They (Eidos) need to realize that K&L isn't Hitman or Tomb Raider. Sounds like K&L should've joined the long list of delayed games.

[gamesR4fun]

believe me the fact he gave this fud an 8 is proof he was bribed the fact edios had the gall to whine about a few facts about their craptastic game he let slip....

Personally seen the game and I wouldnt recomend even renting itits a total waste of money. You know a game with no redeaming qualities whatsoever. Any site you see give it more than a 1 or 2 is most likely on the take.

[Apostle]

Hmm, Halo 3 reviews.

/wonders

[Lord Cheese]

makes you wonder tho - they gave AC a 9 (i liked it actually, but would have said its more like a 7.8 or so), and their website was plastered with images of it as their front page background...

wish they'd get paid off to re-review a couple games that scored less than 3 for a laugh - completely destroy the tiny shred of credibility they have left, and leave their front page covered in images of anuibis II on the wii.....

[mighty_douche]

just another 1,0051,1651,351651,351,354,351 ,354,5,48,8,96,8,63431.,1.,4587 4,54,84,6,464,,6574,68,4,3654,6 8, to go :)

[WilliamRLBaker]

I never trusted jeff to begin with and have been saying for years the site its staff and mods are currupt, but i still backed them up in alot of stuff, we all know gamespot will announce that he was fired for years of inept work which is true but not for the firing, they never had a problem before now they did because it was costing them eidos money.

[Azures]

its corrupt asshole

[mighty_douche]

angry^^

[Azures]

well baker is a dog, so i gotta treat him like one

[Spinitus]

look its Merriam Webster here to correct your spelling. :D

[WilliamRLBaker]

Keep your comments relevant to the news story.
- Offensive language will not be tolerated and will result in temp or permanent ban.
- Personal attacks on other members will not be tolerated and will result in temp or permanent ban.

heres to hoping you get banned shiro:)

and your just angry cause i ignored you and blocked your pm's...and we all know why...your advances we're unwanted...

and unlike you shiro i dont treat people i disagree with like crap.

[Azures]

did you? I haven't sent you one since you admitted to me that you post inflammatory crap and xbot rhetoric just to piss people off.

What an enlightening PM that was.

[TheMART]

Listen.

Kane & Lynch SUCKS

The reviewer was RIGHT

The video review reflects the game. Eidos just mad over their expensive campaign on Gamespot and then slaughtered by a Gamespot reviewer :P

[TheExecutive]

Its about time stories like this broke out. Soon enough all will see that reviewers DO get stuff for free if they give certain scores. These gaming sites should know better. A major part of their business is reviews and if they cannot be trusted they are going to lose major business.

[Bill Gates]

The best and most honest reviewer that website had was Gregg something (at least I think his name was Gregg). He was the bald dude who wore glasses. Anyway, he left because of the websites direction. Hence now everyone hates GS for their biased reviews to favor M$ instead of gaming.

I'm not happy Gerstmann lost his job, or anyone losing their job for that matter but that guy had his head so far up the devil's ass(M$), that I'm sure now he realises that when you play with the big boys sometimes you lose. In this case he lost his job. Maybe he thought M$ would have his back.

Sad cause I used to like GS, and Game Trailers too, but those to companies are for ever corrupted by good ol' M$. Now I don't ever think twice about visiting those sites.

Eidos are a bunch of lazy LOSERS anyway,...just like the XBOTS....AHAHAHAHAHA

[TheExecutive]

If this turns out to be true and GS fires their reviewers for not favoring/bashing certain games, expect others to come forward with similar claims from different websites. I am sure this isnt an isolated event and many people on these forums have been screaming conspiracy since the PS3 came out. I havent said too much about it because I really didnt think gaming websites that depend on reviews and previews would be so stupid as to favor games because advertisers say so.

I think gamespot forgot that the reason they have a website in the first place is because people visit it. they should accomodate the vistors not the advertisers and they just may find this out the hard way. Anyway, we shall see what their official statement is (it will never state that they are paid off by advertisers btw) and then judge for ourselves the validity of that statement. However, I must say that this stain will forever follow gamespot and may actually prove to be a larger problem than just GS. Like I said, expect others to say something (anonymously of course lol) if its going on on other websites. I can guarantee the reviewers dont like being told what to say. They may just jump on the wagon and start making claims about the bias of the websites.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Until all the facts are out, nobody can say for sure what happened. I would love to hear from Jeff Gertsmann though...I think it would be rather eye opening in terms of what his point of view on it is. After all...he knows the truth too.

[Jinxstar]

I bet you 10 to 1 Jeff wont say anything. Probably got a hefty sum and a good merit thing to "Quit because he was tired of it and wanted something new" at another "Undisclosed" game company. This will go away like so much other bad press in this industry... Oh well at least its not hollywood.... yet....

[AnalFace]

haha... no job for u

[KidMakeshift]

Kane & Lynch reminds me of the Getaway series. They both have really poor shooting (stiff sensitivity, inaccurate gunfire, broken covering and upclose combat) and healing (long waiting periods that strain against the players patience) mechanics for a game that is all about shooting. They both have a sloppy story about a guy who has to pull off missions against his will until he can get his revenge (their wives are murdered and their children are held hostage). Neither game has a back bone (who are these people and what the hell led up to this point?) nor likable characteristics whatsoever. Both games just consist of you killing cookie cutter cops and civilians and saying sh*t and f*ck whenever possible. I absolutely hated this game, which is disappointing since I'm sort of a fan of Hitman. It's a 6 hour game, so rent at your own discretion.

[media73]

As a hardcore gamer this is a sad day, The game industry is corrupt. I knew things were bad when Halo3 was given the tag of greatest game ever made, it was average and any intelligent gamer knew something was amiss with 10's flying around (no game should ever get a 10). Edios demanding a good review or else pulling the cash cow from Gamespot?

I am gob smacked every review now is worthless, the games industry has killed off all credibility, how can we still support these people? its bordering on fraud, false information and reviews given to the gaming masses.

I will not be buying ANY EDIOS games again and have already cancelled my Gamespot subscription. A sad day for all gamers today.

Games Industry, Edios, Gamespot = R.I.P

[IGNFTW]

PROS:
HE'S GONE

CONS:
NONE

OVERALL SCORE: AAAA.