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PS Vita: Don't throw away your UMD games just yet...

PlayStation Vita buyers with a chest full of UMDs may not need to worry about their PSP games going to waste.

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TheBeast4599d ago

"special price" wtf? I bought the UMD, it should be free >.>

TheDareDevil4599d ago

Agreed. If you have already purchased the game, it makes no sense for Sony to charge you again just to play 'your' game again on the Vita. A simple solution is to register you games via your PSP on the PSN and then when you sign into your account again using the Vita, you should have the option of downloading and playing those games on the Vita.

But the later models of the PS3 didn't have backwards compatibility with PS2 games, which means that for some reason, Sony are not too keen on backwards compatibility.

Ulf4599d ago (Edited 4599d ago )

They should definitely charge for the service, if they want Vita software to succeed in lieu of pirated software. Do you think the mechanism that downloads the UMD also shreds the physical disc, so you can't just turn around and sell it?

Or return it to your pirate friend?

TheDareDevil4599d ago

@Ulf
Good Point, but it still doesn't make sense to charge you for a game that you have already bought. Another option is to return your UMD to a retail store and get a download code for the Vita version of the same game in exchange. This may not work in all countries, but it's a likely option.

Baka-akaB4599d ago (Edited 4599d ago )

@Ulf

That's not the consumer's problem ... and he shouldnt be treated as a potential thief from the get go .

If the vita gets hacked , those with umd will feel the pain of having been charged for nothing .

just use a return policy .

DigitalAnalog4599d ago (Edited 4599d ago )

You bought a PSP game for the PSP, that entire payment was for the production, sale and product MEANT for the PSP, for the PSP and ONLY the PSP. You did NOT pay for the soft copy so why should you be given that bonus service.

Any other service (like backwards compatibility) should be considered an incentive and not mandatory feature. It's not like your game will entirely disappear when a new console arrives.

Don't forget that unlike the PC the closed-based systems have their own proprietary/standard format designed for that particular period. Any unforseen advancement such as: UMD to Card, DVD to DD must not incur any penalty for the company as their hardware must be designed for the current gen in mind. I mean, with that logic, we should be complaining at Nintendo for not allowing us to use our NES/SNES/N64 cartridges for the Wii since they tried to charge us again AND again on the Wiiware and 3DS. But what do you suggest they do, create an add-on to support said software?

Luckily for DD, the standard would be easily transferable irregardless of technology provided, however one should be thankful SONY is allowing a "cheaper" alternative to keep your games since they could've asked you to re-download it for a higher price.

Heartnet4599d ago

It makes perfect sense.. ur not buying another psp so why shud u be able to even play Psp games? thats just a priviledge which sony may give you...

U have a psp play it on that lol

Highlife4599d ago

Then keep your psp. It will work on that. They don't have too make it work on the vita they are moving forward. No one is making you rebuy. I don't get this notion that some people have that when a new system comes out they should support their old games on the new system.

MaxXAttaxX4599d ago

It's like having bought a movie on VHS but then wanting the DVD version for free.

SilentNegotiator4598d ago (Edited 4598d ago )

"Andriasang today reported on an anonymous retailer who claimed to have attended a Sony sales briefing"

I stopped reading there. "Journalists" take so many liberties to make Sony look bad with "insider sources". This is getting beyond ridiculous.

nveenio4598d ago

It's no one's right to be able to play PSP games on the Vita. Backward compatibility is awesome when allowed, but it is not something that Sony should have to include.

An example would be Microsoft Windows. A few weeks ago, I had a garage sale. I found a ton of old PC games that I thought would be cool for my kids to play, but upon trying to install them, they either wouldn't install because the version of Windows wasn't supported, or they wouldn't install because they wouldn't run in a 64-bit environment.

Not Microsoft's fault. Not my right to be able to play it. If I want to play The Oregon Trail, I'll have to buy it again. Just like if you want to play your old Nat King Cole vinyl in your CD player...well...you have to buy the CD (or make an illegal copy). Sony isn't responsible for giving everyone CD versions of all their cassette tapes.

So I think we should just be thankful that there's a discount at all, let alone that it's even possible to play it on the platform in the first place.

DJMarty4598d ago

@TheDareDevil - You purchased a game for use on PSP, they are well within ther rights to charge for use on VITA. It's probably costing Sony $$$ to get the rights to convert to Vita.

PS3 backwards compatibility was a early adopter bonus.

Doubt it's Sony are not too keen on backwards compatibility. It's just been hard getting right to the huge back catalog of PS2 clasics. Many were only released in certain regions which makes it harder still to get rights.

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CloseSecond4599d ago

@thebeast. yeah, I purchased VHS they should work in my DVD.

SamPao4599d ago

Exactely!

They wont take your PSP away! hell if you want to play your purchased psp games then play them on the psp!
really I dont see the problem, Its already great they make all the downloaded games work on the vita!

RememberThe3574598d ago

Haha TRUTH!

We bough PSP game for the PSP, if Sony has a service that transfers your PSP games to you Vita it's not going to cost them nothing to run it. If you want a service be willing to pay for it. the online thing seems to have left people spoiled.

FragGen4599d ago

If they provide this service and it costs a reasonable price, I will use it.

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narutogameking4599d ago

No, it shouldn't be free. You'll have to re-download your UMD games onto the Vita. This will cost Sony money and it will be a load on THEIR servers.

Anyway just play your UMDs on PSP. That's what they were made for.

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kulex474599d ago

I Agree, they have to charge something, otherwise you could just "borrow" these games and "say" their yours and get them "again" for free, gotta charge something.

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sashimi4599d ago

Or Sony can just not have a solution at all, Seems that is the way to go with all the QQing. You bought the physical copy of the game and regardless you'll still own it along with the Psp you bought it for. That however does not mean you own a digital copy...I bought the GOW:Origins collection in bestbuy...does that mean i'm entitled to the digital version on PSN?

Baka-akaB4599d ago (Edited 4599d ago )

It's a poor argument . GOW in psn isnt the same game . It got bonusses like HD remastering . And same goes for ps3 re-release of psp games , with even more added to them sometimes

sashimi4599d ago

Still, the Psvita is made to play Vita games, any legacy support is just an added bonus since they are moving away from UMD(thx god). And if no umd support is the price we have to pay to move away from umd then it is worth it, honestly is it too much trouble to ask people to keep their Psp around?

When people bought their Psp games, they knew full well that it was for the Psp and not some future unknown device. If some people were smart enough they would've seen this coming and switched to PSN digital copies.

LNDCalling4599d ago

I think its fair.. come on what do you want them to do just give away games for free... its a buisness!

"Hey Sony I bought Angry Birds on my phone so I think you should let me download it free from PSN too!.."

God they're different platforms!!! if you want to play it, go play it on your PSP it'll probably look better anyway rather than on a bigger higher rez screen.

If you like a game that much you want it on your new 'platform' too then your gonna pay again and Sony are meeting gamers half way (seemingly).

I wouldn't be supprised if people start saying that they bought a PSP so Sony should give them a Vita free or at a reduced price.. where does the madness stop??..

Baka-akaB4599d ago

flimsy argument . It's a new platform with the advertised feature of playing the original games from the previous one for free .

And you can avoid such loopholes by having a return policy of some sort for umd . Everyone seems fine with returning non working discs of games or consoles to repair ... it's hardlythat different and a stretch .

PS :
i'm arguing a lot for something i dont even care about midn you . I hate umds as a support . They are a pain to carry around and got horrible loading times , so i always refused very early on to buy umd versions of games .

LNDCalling4599d ago (Edited 4599d ago )

If Sony are indeed advertising Vita as you say i.e. That it can play all games from the PSP 'free' then I agree, but I doubt thats the case as they'd have advertising standards on their arses and be fined! In which case it remains as I believe in that its a choice, the gamers choice, if they want the freedom to play physical games they own on another format, Sony aren't making them buy the games again!

This is one of the problems with digital distribution.. I prefer owning physical games with the exception of UMD's lol I hate them as much as you seemingly, long loading, awkward to carry and drained the battery! With handhelds I think digital is preferable even though it goes against my usual thoughts!

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Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night DLC Adds Free Gameplay Modes

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night has received a bunch of new DLC, including two new gameplay modes, for free.

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20 Best Survival Games of All Time

From base building to swinging willies, here are the best survival games around, which include a couple of less than obvious picks.

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Vader822d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow4d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1823d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie3d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere3d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin3d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere3d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere3d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX4d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney2d ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno4d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno3d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii3d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno3d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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