Battlefield 3 Beta: PS3 graphics and player models concerns

Product-Reviews writes: There are going to be some graphical limitations between the PS3 and PC platforms of the game, and some screenshots provided from the PS3 beta does a good job of highlighting this.

We don't want to be too critical, but you may feel that player model visuals are not too far off from models seen in Bad Company 2, and it does give you an example of just different visuals look compared to the PC version

[tr00p3r]

No big deal imo..Battlefield 3 is about the gameplay, not graphics and on console..it plays just fine! Obviously PC is going to look better, but it is a beta after all.

[Motorola]

C'mon this isn't a beta. It's more of a demo with a Beta stamp on it...

[Ser]

You couldn't be more wrong.

Serious work needs to be done regarding the squad system and friend invites.

It's a beta through and through. Anyone who is currently playing it knows this.

[M-Easy]

Its a beta why cant you understand that? Guess what? In the upper right hand corner of the screen when your playing it, it says BETA right there.

Anyway I'm loving this beta wish we had another map.

[StanLee]

Today is September 27th, the game releases on October 28th. That's 1 month's time. It's a demo. They can call it whatever they want, but it's a demo.

[Washington-Capitals]

Its all about the gameplay... yeah your right, and the gameplay from PC vs Consoles is quite different. The 60FPS vs 30FPS difference is huge. People playing or watching vids of console footage need to go see / play the PC version. You'll see what the big difference is.

NOT TO MENTION, it takes 10 mins sometimes to get into a game on my ps3. On my friends pc, we were able to get into games instantaneously.

[Dante112]

PC vs PS3, Xbox360 consoles. Epic lol. But isn't it possible that the compressed beta compromised some elements of the game graphically, like the similar of the Bioshock demo (Man, was that a war then)?

Edit: I think it could be considered a beta since they're testing the mp aspects and server stability with large volumes of people. If they miss something or glitches are found, they could tweak it if needed with "Day 1" patches :D...:(.

[ambientFLIER]

Just because the full game launches in a month, doesn't mean that it couldn't be a beta...nobody said they couldn't patch it on the first day or first week with all the bugs that have been found up until that point.

[gumchewinasskikr]

washington-capitals

You just started gaming today or something? Since when did everyone expect B3 on Ps3 to look like PC? Seriously you are an idiot if you expected that and judging by so many gaming sites writing these types of articles, based on a demo/beta, shows there are a lot of idiots in the media. AND where are the articles about the 360 version? Is that up to par with PC?

[Motorola]

Yeah it's not like the game isn't coming out next month. This is a demo. The game is COMPLETED! They will only patch things from here and not do anything drastic... Uncharted 3 Beta, Assassins Creed Revelations Beta, Gears 3 Beta have all taken place at least 2 months before release... Yes, they will patch bugs that people experienced during this "beta," that doesn't make it a beta. Game is complete, they will patch minor bugs and tweak weapons from here on out.

[Corax]

@Washington-Capitals lol I put money you don't have a PS3 or never have played the beta on PS3 before. Maybe it is just me but I get into games instantaneously. Maybe you need to check your internet provider IF you really have a PS3 but you're trolling from my side of the table. More beta tomorrow for me good night

[Heartnet]

very much so and any bugs that appear just gives DICE the excuse oh its only a beta...

[Kleptic]

when the 'beta' is released has absolutely zero to do with whether or not its a 'beta'...

people don't even understand what a beta even is anymore...or more appropriately; a 'beta test'...

I agree with people saying the game is not going to have many visual improvements over whats been shown so far, but the state of the game is very much a buggy mess right now...making it obviously not a 'demo', as it is doing very little to illustrate the quality of the finished game...which is exactly what a demo is used for...

but gravity problems (stuff keeps floating around), sprint button glitches, wonky physics when lag is introduced, sound cutting in and out...graphical hiccups...all three versions have these problems...

DICE also stated this version of the game is over a month older than their current build, so a lot may be fixed already...but I 100% guarantee BF3 will ship with a day 1 patch addressing issues pointed out in feedback from this beta test...its not a demo, EA/DICE are encouraging feedback in order to work out possible balancing issues, etc...

[AKS]

That's not true, actually. There are locked servers I can't access in which they are testing, and there are still aspects of the available maps that need some tech fixes and polish (sinking slightly while prone in certain areas is one example; it's a jittery pain when it happens). Letting the public try some of it out now helps them work out some of the key bugs online before the official release in addition to the added exposure to potential consumers you mentioned.

[JellyJelly]

If you believe the final version will be like the beta you are off your trolley.

[gamingdroid]

Printing discs and shipping games out to retailers needs roughly 2-3 weeks, so the game better go Gold now or in the next 1-2 weeks.

The beta (or more appropriately demo) isn't going to do anything, but at best balance a few weapons.

It's too late to re-balance map, add players or do graphical improvement.

It's a done deal! What's the matter? It didn't look like PC footage that EA kept peddling and every fan kept hyping?

We hit a ceiling a with consoles, what you get from now on out will be tiny little upgrades like squeezing juice out of stone.

@Motorola
***They will only patch things from here and not do anything drastic... Uncharted 3 Beta, Assassins Creed Revelations Beta, Gears 3 Beta have all taken place at least 2 months before release...****

Both Gears of War 3 and Halo: Reach had a "true" beta in May for release in September, that is like 3+ months. Uncharted 3 also had 3+ months.

BF3 had a month!

[Controversy]

I had a blast in the Beta last night on PS3, but ya, there are some serious bugs that need worked out!

[Kleptic]

GamingDroid: you're looking at it without factoring in all the variables...

a major one being the age of the 'demo' we are participating in...recent tweets from the developers say the build is nearly as old as the e3 footage (showing operation metro for the first time)...and that is well behind the release build just about to be pressed...so the fact that its only a month from release has nothing to do with how old this version is from the release version...

and that doesn't matter as a day 1 patch can easily introduce balancing parameters, gameplay tweaks, and networking changes...as well as graphical changes...so feedback from what is going on now can, and will, easily change the release build of the game...

and the look of what we are playing has no grounding on what the final game will look like...it might be the same, it might not...we don't have enough information at this point...

and people always take sides when a beta is released...when Halo 3's beta dropped, everyone screamed 'its just a beta, the final game will look much better' because it was immediately met with 'this is it?' visually...it didn't...it looked identical in almost every detail...Warhawk's beta, which released at the same time, had major graphical problems (clipping issues, clouds disappearing, etc.) that were not in the final release...and finally Killzone 2...the beta for that game had an entirely different color pallet, lighting system, particle effects, and a number of other other differences that were immediately noticeable when playing the final release...the beta still looked great, but its a good example of how much can be changed visually between a beta and release...

so...all i'm saying is that everyone needs to stop acting like they know the answers with BF3...the PC version has a considerable amount of graphical tweaks that are locked out...only texture detail is available in ultra settings, everything else is maxed at high...so obviously the PC version will be able to look MUCH better on the proper equipment in a month...the console may look identical at release to what it does now, or they may have a similar situation where fidelity is marginally bumped just by proper networking optimization...

point is...no one knows yet...and its arrogant to act like you do...

[Dee_91]

Wow people think its a demo because the game is coming out in a month...i dont even know....
n4g people never ceases to amaze me

Why would they call it a Freakin beta if it was a demo ?
what type of satisfaction would they get from doing this?
What would be the purpose of doing that?
Patching and updating was the first thing to come to mind
or they already have the final version that they are still working on and just letting us play an earlier version
I mean theres 100 possibilities why they gave us a beta instead of a demo.

[gamingdroid]

@Kleptic

I don't disagree (and said as much in my comment) about balancing updates. You do that in a patch all the time. However, unless the "beta" is 3-4 months old, there aren't going to be much changes. In fact, testing such an old build will give you very limited value. In addition, testing takes time and you don't drop anything in release without proper testing.

Graphical changes will certainly almost be minimal, because you don't performance tune major features at the end of the cycle. You fix bugs, performance tune the ENTIRE game and cut out features to meet your goal.

Will there be changes? Sure, it just won't be magical like people are suggesting it will be. It probably won't deviate too much from what you see now, maybe a little more polish.

@Dmarc
***Why would they call it a Freakin beta if it was a demo ?
what type of satisfaction would they get from doing this?
What would be the purpose of doing that?***

For marketing reasons it sounds much more exclusive, not to mention if there are any issues people would just use the "it is a beta" card. Just look in the comment history here.

***Patching and updating was the first thing to come to mind
or they already have the final version that they are still working on and just letting us play an earlier version
I mean theres 100 possibilities why they gave us a beta instead of a demo.***

To me, it indicates an unpolished game. Almost no footage, super late "beta" or demo. Even the comments Dice are given seems almost distressing and in some cases attacking their customers/fans.

Sounds like a dev studio under lots of pressure to me, but it wouldn't surprise me because it is EA. Remember EA spouse?

http://ea-spouse.livejourna...

I'm jumping the gun here, so I hope I am SOOO WRONG!

[Dee_91]

Thats it ?
Marketing ?
Jesus

well who knows I dont know Im over it
im just a consumer

Btw I thought there was PS3 footage back since E3

[JokesOnYou]

So BF3 has a late *Beta and the game is taking hits for not looking anywhere as good as PC version, NOW all the BF fans want to blame the media as if EA/Dice had no part in pimping the PC version as if the console versions would look like (very close) to PC,.. why am I not surprised. Nothing against BF it will still be a great game but for those who constantly trolled every MW3 article with talk of BF3 the stuff I'm seeing from this *Beta ps3 footage isn't looking much better, hell I don't even think its much of a improvement at all. Now lets be realistic here, EA/Dice can call this a "beta" all they like but at this point its nothing more than a demo, unless they are going to suddenly delay the game, there is simply not enough time to make drastic graphical changes, just bugs, glitches, balancing a slight polish to the graphics thats it. Also the theory that its a "much older" Beta version they are using is ridiculous because the newer build may have other flaws that will not be in the older version, the best way to test a beta is to test the latest and best available version you have then allow the public/testers to make as many changes/fixes as possible right before you go gold. lol, Well in the interest of full disclosure I've always been more of a COD fan, so maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[GunofthePatriots]

it wouldnt be a big deal if EA didnt brag about the graphics so much. there are a ton of jaggys, muddy textures, soft spots and overall low res.
i think/hope it's just because of the beta and can't make it too large so they had to sacrifice a few things.

[moeqawama]

That's the problem with flaunting the PC version so much... they set a standard that the console versions could not match, which is why people are having such a hard time accepting the fact the they will not look as good as the PC version. It's EA's fault. They should have showed the console versions from the beginning,to ease people in, just like Activision does with COD3. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

[tr00p3r]

Yeah, one big mistake was EA admitting that the PC will be the best version of the three, since it usually goes without saying.

But by saying that they have created this big 'crisis' over console quality, a problem they could have easily avoided..

[modesign]

alot of times multiplayer graphical settings are lower than campaign settings, trust me, when playing BF2 MP/campaign, the graphics are toned way down on multiplayer when comparing it to the single player campaign, so im not to worried for the end product.

[Bladesfist]

Its a PC game, Pc is lead platform. Showing PC is what they are going to do. And of course make more money as console players will expect simmilar.

[ChickeyCantor]

".Battlefield 3 is about the gameplay, not graphics and on console"

I HATE it when people say this.

The on going nonsense since 2006 about gfx and suddenly its about gameplay?
Hell no, this is suppose to be a realistic shooter. This is the type of game that actually NEEDS the fidelity you can get on a PC.

[ECM0NEY]

BF is far from realistic. Try RO 2

[Shackdaddy836]

It's about gameplay for me... I still play BF2 just for the gameplay.

[Kleptic]

Sidar: your argument goes out the window because of games like Halo 3 and CoD...those are perfect examples of games simply with acceptable graphics...beyond addictive gameplay...that both shattered records of sales in popularity regardless of if elitists bitched about a muddy texture here and there...

or killzone 2...which was a monument of graphical fidelity that crushed expectations of what could be done with a video game console...and struggled with sales and popularity because people didn't like the feel of the game, and therefor 'didn't like its gameplay'...

in all 3 examples...gameplay has had WAY more to do with a shooters success than anything graphically...

and since 2006?...this has been going on since before most N4G users were born...the best looking games haven't always been 'the best games'...yet internet users tirelessly go back and forth over meaningless details either way...

either way, i hope everyone complaining about graphics does indeed buy the PC version...I'm sure the last thing my friends and I want is a guy on our team stopping to whine about a bland rock texture in the middle of no where...if anything, all this bull shit is just making cod players look like a better community than what BF is building...those games don't look special at all...yet no one sits around screaming about it, and its still handing every other shooter franchise its hat...

[5119ent]

Cod had xbox graphics..so people don't car e

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

This is a DEMO. This is not a beta. So when Forza 4's Demo drops in 2 weeks or so.. are you guys going to call that a Beta as well?

No.

BF3 is being stamped onto disc right now as I type, and the game is going gold. Be ready for this. This is the game. Don't be mad. You still have 2 weeks after to get COD.

[ambientFLIER]

You DO realize that they can make a patch based on all the bugs found in this "demo" and patch the game as soon as it comes out?

[gumchewinasskikr]

You kidding right. I hope you don't expect better graphics in COD.. LOL My cell phone can run COD.

[Hufandpuf]

I've been playing the beta, and it's a beta. But that's not a bad thing because the game runs fine on consoles, and it's definitely not a letdown. This game is amazing and I'm sure it will win multiplayer game of the year. Ive played it and I think it's fantastic.

[JoGam]

Its a Beta dude. Its not a opinion but fact. Its what ever DICE is calling it and they're calling it a beta. Now if Forza 4 releases a Demo, than its just that a demo. I don't care what anybody else calls it. It what it is. A Demo. Again not an opinion but fact.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

@ambientFLIER...

of course i know they can patch it. Where did I say they wouldn't or couldn't even if it was a demo? Of course they're going to patch stuff... just like COD will do , just like Halo does and all the rest. Where did that come from you? All I'm saying is let's be real. This is a demo. Do you all think that Forza 4's demo coming out is a beta? No, of course not. It's a demo. It's coming out a month later or so... just like BF3 is and it's demo.

They don't release beta's 1 month before release. Unless you guys want to call testing the connection of the players right now as the beta.. and that THAT part of this is the beta. I can concede that. That part is for sure a beta I would think... but the actual game itself.. it's ready for release. THIS IS THE GAME! And yes they'll patch stuff.. but this is the game! It's a demo, sans the connection testing.. which I'm glad they're doing that. Wish COD was testing that as well with a demo.

[modesign]

omg, you fail for thinking this is a demo. if EA released the first 30mins of a level then that would be a demo, because you are "demoing" a single player campaign, were as if EA is testing out its server capacities and correcting bugs and glitches then they release a "beta", so your a tard for thinking this is a demo. retard

[SCW1982]

Your wrong, Red Orchestra 2 had the beta go up until a week and a half before launch and the retail copy was much more polished and balanced then the beta. Dice has already admitted this is an old version of what they are using and that certain things you find in the Beta have already been polished and tweaked. Oh and go Suck COD's dick you little bitch.

[gamesmaster]

regardless of how close this beta was released to the actual release date of the game. Battlelog, the beta terms of service and feedback forums prove its a late beta to pave way for patches and other hotifxes on launch day. the only person that says its a demo is you and other cod fans. The people who matter, dice and the media, are calling it a beta. so suck it up.

its a beta, play it before you say its a demo.

[FACTUAL evidence]

Just knew console version of BF3 waas going to be meh. I'm not falling for this whole "just a beta" argument. Look at the PC beta. Why does it look good?? Next game I'm ready to see look a little crappier on console is rage...lets see how amazingly different the graphics become at retail.

[AKS]

Why does the PC version look good? Maybe because the graphics cards I'm using to run it (6950s) are new and each cost as much as an entire PS3 ($250). There's a MASSIVE difference in hardware power between my PS3 and PC. Anyone expecting parity between a high end PC game and a 6-year-old console is dazed and confused.

[cyborg6971]

If this is a demo, then all of the cod's from four on have been betas.

Launch day patch that's what's gonna happen. Making it a beta. Tards.

[narutogameking]

lol saying Battlefield 3 is about gameplay....lmfao. Everyone knows this game is all about the graphics. Too bad the console versions are really disappointing compared to what EA has been promoting(the PC version)

[Hufandpuf]

We all knew it wasn't going to be on par, but I'm playing the beta on my xbox right now, and the gameplay is amazing. Don't judge before you start saying things that don't make sense.

[flankhim]

The game wont change much after beta!

[danswayuk]

"Battlefield 3 is about the gameplay, not graphics" are you joking, Battlefield 3 has a new engine and was going to be all about graphics.

[JsonHenry]

I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. I'm pretty impressed with the console screens I have been seeing. Also the character animations are really solid.

Of course it isn't going to be on par with the PC. The consoles have not been on par with the PC since they launched 5 years ago. Why in the world would you think they would be on par now?!

I don't think that anyone that buys a console version is gonna be let down. Especially not if console gaming is your only option.

[SixShotCop]

If BF3 doesn't look better then MW3 on consoles, DICE is going to have a lot of games being bought second hand.

I'll wait to get the game but from what i've seen so far, i am not impressed with the graphics at all.

[hellzsupernova]

Why do gaming sites or anybody think the console version will be any where near the graphics of the pc version? honestly our consoles are 5/6 years old. BF3 is going to kick ass no matter what you play it on.

[aquamala]

Not expecting the ps3 version to look like the pc version, but I was expecting it would look better than bc2, playing the beta and not even sure about that!

[Dante112]

I think Dice just ****ed all the console players (X360, PS3) with their promises.

[Kyur4ThePain]

"There are going to be some graphical limitations between the PS3 and PC platforms of the game..."

Is that even English?

[HeavenlySnipes]

One thing I've learned from my time here is to not listen to one second of hype from this site.

First Brink was hailed as a mghty FPS that would change everything. (-_-)

Crysis 2 hailed as graphics king (lol)

Gears 3 has amazing graphics (I actually believed that one because the youtube videos looked so great, then I played it and everything but the skin textures and the small advances in lighting is the same as Gears 2)

And the last being BF3 on consoles is up there with UC an KZ. I'm not going to have high expectations anymore, because of the overhyping going on.

What I'm trying to say is don't base your opinion of a game on the screenshots and youtube videos you see, you actually have to play the game or see it first hand in order to see the truth. There are far to many fanboys and haters that give bias opinions around here.

[ChickeyCantor]

Ah you just discovered the N4G hype-o-meter syndroom.
Dont forget, N4G, where everyone is an internet tough guy.
Now if you don't mind, I'm going to teleport myself to hell cause it's a bit nicer over there.

I bid you a good day sir!

[M-M]

"you actually have to play the game or see it first hand in order to see the truth."

Gold.

[kennyboy]

good luck with any version being up there with uncharted and killzone

[jozzah]

Fixed*

Good luck with uncharted or killzone being up there with the pc version.

[gotgame1985]

come on man now i don't know what you played gears of war 3 on but i played it on my 55 inch Lg LED infinia.
and it is with out a dout the best looking game out to date. um charted 3 looks good but not nuch better than gears. and before u say im a fanboy i do on both all consoles.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

I love how people announce they own all consoles as a way to justify their response especially when a game isn't released yet.

[dcortz2027]

Xbox fanboy, Uncharted 3 hasn't even come out yet, how the hell would you even know if Gears Of War 3 looks better than Uncharted 3?

[DARK WITNESS]

@ Kyosuke_Sanada & dcortz2027

You kind of have to say that round here if you want to say anything negative about anything. Not that it makes much difference in the outcome, but you at least want to make it clear that you could have played and compared both.

I partly agree with him. I have both systems, and I got a chance to see Uncharted 3 at the expo in London and have gears at home.

Uncharted looked great, but it didn't blow my mind out the water with what I saw so far.

Granted I didn't see the full single player campaign, just some of the multiplayer. so it's possible in some places it looks a lot better then what I saw. Same with gears, they only had the horde mode available and I didn't bother playing it cos I have it sitting at home.. but watching it I didn't think "wow that makes gears look like shit or anything, they both look great".

when you say how could he have played it, well he could have been at the expo.

just saying it's not impossible for someone to have played it and compared the two right now.

[Petro]

First you said that Gears Of War 3 is best looking game, then you say that Uncharted 3 is a better looking game than that. There are two things wrong here, first you haven't even played Uncharted 3 cause it ain't out yet and you said it like you have, all this makes you sound like you only have Xbox 360.

[TheFirstClassic]

Very true, you can't get carried away by all the hype. I've learned my lesson. Still can't wait to try the beta this thursday.

[qwertyz]

@HeavenlySnipes

you lie. Gears 3 looks much better than gears 2(better in EVERY way) you're obviously just a ps3 fanboy trying to downplay the game.

If you haven't noticed I'm pretty much a rabit pc fanboy(maybe even the worst on this site) and try to downplay consoles in ANY way I can but even I can see the massive difference between gears 2 and gears 3 and admit it so why can't you ? :/

gears 3 does look amazing for a CONSOLE game and so does crysis 2 you can continue being in denial all you i it help you sleep better at night.

or do you expect BF3 ps3 to match the pc version ? LOL even my 7950gx2 pc I had in late 2005 is more powerful than your ps3 :/

even bulletstorm pc looks better than uncharted 3 and killzone 3 and you talk like those games actually look amazing.

infact modern warfare 2 maxed out 1600p looks much better than killzone 3 even with the fact that it uses activations ANCIENT engine lol and you consider that amazing ?

consoles FAIL in general so stop trying to be elitist with your sub 2005 ultra spec(dual gpu high end pc) performance console that only has 512mb(which has been outdated since 2004).

[FunkMcnasty]

"If you haven't noticed I'm pretty much a rabit pc fanboy(maybe even the worst on this site) and try to downplay consoles in ANY way I can but even I can see the massive difference between gears 2 and gears 3 and admit it.."

See, right there I thought you were going to reform your senseless ways... but then you wrote the rest of that post.

I truly don't get your need to bash or "downplay" consoles. There isn't a console player out there who really believes they have a machine that is superior to a modern PC with maxed settings. In case you haven't noticed... most console gamers are content with their consoles.

You're not getting under anyones skin with your proclamation that PC graphics are superior, you're getting under everyones skin because your being an annoying troll, and no one asked for your opinion.

Live and let game.

[xtreampro]

BF3 is doing much more on-screen graphically and technically than both KZ3 and UC2 could ever do. If it doesn't look that nice then it simply means the PS3's maxed out.

KZ3 uses tons of smoke and mirror effects and so dose UC2, and yes when you see them on YT they look great but once you actually play them the jaggies and low-res textures stand out like a sore thumb.

With all that motion-blur in KZ3 I could hardly see where I was going.

[Gamer3000]

where the hell did you get that from ???
do you have any .. ANY prove to back this up ???
i played KZ3 / Uc2
and there is nothing from what you said is there
stop with the bull.... talk

[gijsbrecht]

Sorry, when watching all the BF3 footage I was constantly thinking how boring it looked compared to KZ2 & 3. There is really more happening on screen than in BF3. And no jaggies and screen tearing to be found in KZ3. In BF3 however...

[death2smoochie]

@GAMER3000

from a technical standpoint BF3 is doing a lot more than KZ3 and U2.

KZ3 does not use HDR at all. It uses LDR and NAO32.
The lighting engine in KZ3 is almost all pre calculated/pre baked.
Soft shadow effects in KZ3 are all pre baked.
There is NO DYNAMIC destruction at all.
All scripted.
UC2/3 fairs the same way mostly.
BF3 on consoles DOES not look as good as KZ3 or UC3. That's a given...
ANYONE saying otherwise is fooling themselves.
KZ3 and Uncharted 3 looks better...
And the reason as to this is BF3 is rendering more dynamic features than KZ3 and UC2/3 so comprimises had to be made. One of the reasosn also the game is running just under 720p.
Running quite a bit of real time effects and a destructible environment takes up a lot of resources/ram/bandwidth.

If they wanted to save resources DICE could have went the way of developers like ND, GG, EPIC etc. and have all its lighting pre-baked. All its shadow effects pre calculated pre-baked and have all its maps smaller and have all scripted destruction with no use of vehicles period like the games you mentioned.
But DICE did not. They created a dynamic game engine that I am actually surprised runs on these consoles and looks as good as it does.

1) I would LOVE to see UC3 and KZ3 have the same level of real time destruction,(or any non scripted destruction would be nice besides set pieces)

2) High use of real time lighting and Global Illumination

3) Real time eye adaptive HDR

4) Real time soft shadow effects at the level of BF3 on consoles

Would Uncharted 3/KZ3 if it had those effects to the level of BF3 on consoles, would those games look the same as they are now?
You already know the answer to that...and it ain't yes.
512 megs of memory and 5 year old technology only gets you so far.....
Kudos to DICE for getting BF3 on consoles looking as great as it does with all those effects and large map areas and VEHICLES.

"need i bring more from other sites ???"

I would not go by that as proof...
Here is why:

Many sites also said Crysis 2 on is the best looking game on consoles.
And one of those sites happened to be a major PlayStation game site of all places.

http://www.psu.com/Crysis-2...

That caused a MAJOR Sh* storm on this site and others LOL
But I do agree with you that Gears 3 is not the best looking games on consoles.

of ALL places.

[Gamer3000]

well ..... until this day i don't find any game on console that can go toe to toe with
uncharted/kz/gow3 gfx
and i thought bf 3 will do that
but i was wrong
this is not a beta
it's a demo
this is what you will get on consoles

@gotgame1985
ok so you own both consoles ??
you think gears 3 is the best looking game to date ??
funny bec not a single review said any thing about that
even IGN give the gfx 9/10
kz 3 gfx review 9.5/10
from ign
"Killzone 3 is easily one of the best looking games on any current platform, and makes war-torn worlds look beautiful."

uncharted 2 gfx 10/10
"Absolutely the best of the best these days. Your jaw will drop."

god of war 3 9.5/10
"It is at times the best-looking game ever, but not all assets were created equal. Still, you will be floored."

need i bring more from other sites ???
and i would love to have your psn to play mp with you in any game you like

[omi25p]

Gears 3 looks amazing. But i agree with Brink and Crysis 2

[Gamer-Z]

Well it looks good for what its on, was anybody seriously expecting PC graphics on consoles!? Anyways BF3 graphics put all other FPS's to shame on any platform.

[narutogameking]

BF3 graphics are nothing special. I'm pretty sure Crysis 2 looks better(on consoles)

[leogets]

Crysis 2 visualls r shit. A tad better than cod.

[Bathyj]

Is it just me or are there alot of article trying to run the PS3 version down? What is this about the second or third one in a couple days?

"There are going to be some graphical limitations between the PS3 and PC platforms of the game."

Shouldnt that just say between the CONSOLE and PC versions?
Am I to understand by giving Xbox a pass that its on par with PC?

Or is this just a petty retaliation at the sites that claimed PS3 was the better looking console version, so now it needs to be highlighted that PC looks better, as if we didnt already FKN know that.

I dont need to be told water is wet either.

[Hufandpuf]

I have the beta on xbox, and once you get used to the pace of the game (nothing like bfbc2) it is fantastic. The amount of unlocks are insane and the gameplay is even better than COD. no lie, but cod has some serious competition.

[caboose32]

Oh come on the PS3 graphics look fricken fine. Much better then most games out there.

[raidensnake]

Im playing the beta and the graphics are really nice better than bad company 2, we all now that all games on multiplayer have worst graphics than the single player look at killzone 3 amazing graphics on single player and medium on multiplayer. Im enjoying the beta its nice the only thing i hate is we die very fast like call of duty, i wish it was like bad company. If someone shoot at you and you try to run and counter thats the feel i want it, like the other battlefield. In this beta if someone shoot at you its like by by im dead , wich spot was the enemy at?

[Funky Town_TX]

I purchased a PS3 because of KZ3 and it was a let down. It did look good though. BF>KZ end of story.

[gijsbrecht]

Indeed; don't compare KZ3 to BF. KZ3 actually delivers what it promises. From what i've seen so far BF3 is the let down.

[ATi_Elite]

Never mind the graphics.......the friggin load times are ridiculous!!

Put a dam SSD in the next Gen consoles! Disc and Load times are like Dinosaurs and should be extinct!!

[3GenGames]

SSD's are bad because if you get a virus, it's very easy for them to just demolish your drive by writing/reading the same memory until it just fails to hold information anymore, and it would go through the whole drive if you let it run long enough, and it will kill some of your drive if you even run it for a second. SSD are fast as hell, sure, but I wouldn't take it over a 7200RPM HDD with infinite read/write cycles.

[ATi_Elite]

Sorry but i'm running.....
Double firewall
Spybot search n Destroy
Malwarebytes
anti virus
plus my PC makes auto restore points. so I'm safe from virus's, Trojans, adware, and malware! It's a non issue with me!!

As far as a SSD vs. HDD I'll take the SSD cause my 128 GB Corsair SSD makes all my programs and games run instantly without any load times. SSD technology is better and faster than HDD.

they both have their pro's and cons but so far i have NO cons with SSD except price.

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Say what you want but those graphics suck bad!!!!! I'm still getting it though but it's not in the same league as Killzone,UC3,Rage or Gears in terms of graphics in my book. Pc version does look sick though but i have a PS3 so oh well lol.

[kassler]

The ps3 version looks great. It just need some bugs/glitch fixing. Some people got too high expectations. You can't just play the beta for 30 min and judge, give it some time.

[bunfighterii]

Expectations that this game would hit some new graphical height for consoles are way off. It won't be a whole lot different to BF:BC2, which looks fine in my opinion anyway.

Fact is that the only games that end up in that top graphics notch on any console end up being exclusives for either platform.

And what's with all the comparisons of console to PC? Everyone knows good PC's are streaks ahead of 4-5 year old console hardware. A 5 year old PC wouldn't probably run this at console level graphics or worse, so who cares. Comparing consoles and PC's is futile, everyone knows a good PC can outperform any console.

[CloseSecond]

BC2 did look fine except for the jaggies. Have they addressed AA at all on the PS3 this time around?

[rob6021]

Looks like MLAA to me on PS3(I'm in the beta), doesn't save the graphics however, the textures are low res. Jaggies are gone mostly, but still some ugly effects from it being sub-hd.

[SweatyFlorida]

Well I played the beta just now on Ps3 and I can say it resembles Bad Company 2 a LOT. The only major difference that I can tell is the lighting and depth of field, which is way better than Bad Company. However the textures and character models are more or less the same as BC2 with maybe a few improvements.

Though the graphics are good enough, its the random crap that goes on during a match which is a tad annoying. You see people diving into the ground waste deep and sometimes when you die you enter another world O.O Also knives are janked up, as well as getting shot when your obviously behind cover. Other than that, man the game is AWESOME!! In the metro it feels so intense while you fight your way through enemies with your squad. Wish their was a mute button haha but other than that it's an amazing and intense experience :) Don't let those technical guys sway your decision from playing this game!

Games are a form of entertainment, and I can tell you from 1st hand BF3 is here to ENTERTAIN!

[Parapraxis]

...there's no mute button?????

(I know...teamwork, communication, yada yada, but really)

[SweatyFlorida]

Yah not at the moment as far as I can tell :/ Had some dumb people talking throughout my whole match. Hopefully it gets patched in or in the retail version.

[Heishiro__Mitsurugi]

well, It is..what 512mb of ram on console would allow, I guess. Still, The pc "elitists" will run their mouth saying their ver is the best blah blah blah. It doesnt need mention, but this is N4G, where grown men still play the "mine is bigger than yours" contests.

[boricua82]

Who freaking cares,you play the game for fun and gameplay not the Goddamn graphics. Stupid generation of gamers always bitching about graphics.

[BX81]

The problem isn't just with graphics so far. It pisses me off that you have like Gears and Uncharted and battlefield3 still looks like BFBC2. Toss the graphics aside. This beta is an eye opener. I'm playing the 360 version and so far I've seen players disapearing and reapearing, low res textures, The screen with a blue tinge when in the subway, load times, match joining problems, When you look through the sniper scope across map the background breaks up, the game loading to a black screen and sounds. exiting the beta and getting stuck at a load screen. This is all after 15 games. I know I forgot some as well. My issue is the game comes out in a month and this is EA's baby. The one to topple COD. They need to fix a lot asap

[tr00p3r]

Is it really that bad?

[motherboop]

yeah, it's pretty bad. I wasn't expecting it to be on par with PC, but frostbyte 2 seems to be nothing more than a gimmick - looks just like BFBC2 and Medal of Honor.

[BX81]

Let's see today I've experienced sometimes the run doesn't work. Someone ran up to me and another player bent over at the waist... not forward but to the left. The screen occasionally showed flashes of green and red in the walls. I got stuck under the map in a sand pit and the rest of my squad spawned on me and we were all stuck and died. I was low crawling to the far right of the map and i could see under the map. What worries me is that this is only one map and one game mode. We aren't beta testing vehicles or any other modes and maps. If one map and game type has this many problems I can only wonder what is in store with the vehicles and other maps. This might be one of the worst launches if they can't get everything under wraps.

[Jdrm03]

Seriously why are people surprised the game doesn't look amazing....OUR CONSOLES ARE 6 YEARS OLD. They are ancient by tech standards.

The game looks great running on the ps3 and 360. Should just be happy to play it because I certainly am.

[thespaz]

We are surprised because there are much better looking games running on our 6 year old consoles:

Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3

We expect at least the quality of these other graphics kings when a company is bragging this much about their brand new engine.

Basically, they (DICE) got the graphics (of BF3) to look barely better than Modern Warfare 2. I've seen all the videos and screenshots and the graphics look so flat and boring. Hardly like the PC videos.

[omi25p]

Gears 3, Uncharted 2, Killzone 3, Battlefield bad company 2, All running on the same hardware and all look better.

Also dont use "Its just a beta" as an excuse because Gears 3, Uncharted 3 and BFBC2 All had a beta and all of them look better than BF3 beta

[Hockeydud19]

I like the game a lot, but the graphics have me wondering. I mean the demos shown on the 360 and PS3 looked great. But the beta/demo is kinda ugly. Haven't seen too much destruction either which is dissapointing. Just have to wait and see if they bring the conquest mode in with vehicles... Still enjoying the game overall though. Definite day one.

[Jdrm03]

If I remember correctly, all prior official footage shown has been of the campaign and not the single player.

Graphics get downgrades in multiplayer when compared to the single player.

[tr00p3r]

This is about the graphics anyway, who cares if its a demo or beta? Time to get back on topic.

[leemo19]

Well from after playing the beta on the ps3 clearly you can tell it is a beta. The game does look good, but when to much chaos happens the frame-rate stutters little bit. Also pop-ins do occur but not super noticeable once and awhile it happens. The only problems i have isn't the visuals its the gamplay bugs and glitches such as teammates floating across the map or the other team falling through the ground when in prone mode. The 2 biggest problems is the damage of the rockets and the hit detection. Rpg/missile launchers i know can be noobish but when u fire a rocket at a group of people u except to kill them not just get hit marker. so clearly the rpgs/missiles are way to under power. the hit detection dear god needs fixing ive shot a guy bunches of time somehow it shows the hit marker but when i die it shows his life still 100% which is big time bs. Overall im hoping whats in the beta gets fixed and the game looks even better.

[rob6021]

After playing the PS3 beta and hearing about this game being hyped to be one of the best looking games out there on console - it was a major disappointment graphically. Not even close to being up with the top looking games on consoles, it's not any better looking than BC2.

The game play is unique and the sound is outstanding, but graphics are a major letdown on the consoles, MW3 will look much better than this game in motion.

[danswayuk]

Battlefield 3 has a new engine and was going to be all about graphics, this has not happened, well maybe for PC users but after playing both MW3 and Battlefield 3 single/multi first hand I can confirm the consoles are not getting a game gamer.

[asmith2306]

I haven't played the beta yet but from what I have seen it looks no better than BC2. Just played through the KZ3 campaign and KZs graphics blow this away on ALL platforms from what I have seen so far. I couldn't care less if it looks like BC2 because BC2 in my opinion looks great anyway. Im just looking forward to the gameplay aspect of it all.

[thespaz]

I can't get over the massive amounts of screen tearing... I'm sorry... I won't be giving this game a chance at all.

[caperjim]

All this talk about graphics. If you truly feel that graphics are important then you would have been playing games on PC long ago.

Build a PC or buy one pre-built. Battlefield 3 has built in controller support that works excellent on PC. They did a great job on it. Im on top of the scoreboard consistently. Convert to PC now. You wont regret it.

[DrFUD]

BF3 graphics on PS3 have screen tearing just as all DICE games on consoles do unfortunately.

[GoldenPheasant]

Haha, yesterday a bunch of news on PS3 battlefield beta. Now some PR control from an "unknown" source about how the "PS3 ain't that great".

Lovin it.

[death2smoochie]

Only on N4G.COM can people actually think the PS3 version of BF3 will look even remotely good as the PC version.
This game is running an almost full dynamic game engine with real time soft shadows etc/lighting and destruction with Global Illumination and other real time effects.
Of COURSE the PS3 and the Xbox360 versions will not look like the PC version.
Are people that daft?

[FunkMcnasty]

OK... so... anyone wanna talk about Battlefield 3, or do y'all just wanna keep bashing each other's platform of choice and compare everyhting to Gears 3, Killzone, and Uncharted?

Fu*kin N4G... gotta love to hate it!

[tmoneymill]

From what i remember...battlefield bad company 2 beta didnt look near as good as the retail version. Everything was more polished and crisp in the retail version. The game still looks good for being a beta but they do need to fix the players morphing into the ground and hit detection. But they fixed all that in bc2 beta to retail so no worries from me. Its still a great time playing the game. And you can tell there are some COD transplants already cuz they make no attempt to disarm the bomb or arm the bomb and just run around trying to get their k/d ratio as good as it can be.

[LilDeja93]

The beta for ps3 and 360 looks good. Not mind blowing, but good.

All this hype from EA and DICE.

No doubt they created a beautiful game for the pc.

But they could have put more effort in the console versions.

[Drab]

Figh figh fight! Lol games does look better than BFBC2 but but yea it needs tweeks....btw don't prone by fire when sniping><

[unicron7]

The PC has better character models than the PS3 version? No shit. Article made to generate hits. The beta looks fine to me.

[Dirtnapstor]

Remember folks, this is a beta...No real worries. The MOH beta looked great but was well under par compared to ITSELF when the full version came out. I played both the PS3 and 360 versions (BF3). Not trying to sound like a fanboy, but the PS3 version was far superior, 360 had issues. Again though, this is only a beta.

[Vip3r]

Having been a Sony beta test member since 08, I can say all betas have crap graphics. The graphics are the last thing to be polished before the game ships.

Don't worry too much about it.

[Bladesfist]

You people complaining that it doesnt look good and blaming dice, do you ever stop and think, wait my consoles is 5 -6 years old. Its outdated. Dice did what they could.

[NobleRed]

I'm more concerned about the ugly ground textures. Don't care about the player moderls they look ok.

[Jdub895O]

The next person who compares Pc to console .....oh nevermind its pointless.

[Beastradamus]

The graphics are a little worse than BFBC2, but then again it is the beta.

[Silkside]

To everyone who keeps saying this is a demo and not a beta, see below.

http://www.tweetdeck.com/tw...

Global Battlefield Community Manager at DICE Daniel Matros states "A lot of what you are seeing in the BETA doesn't exist in the main game already. 1st Party submissions mean we couldn't give a version of the latest code in the BETA but the retail game is well ahead of what you are seeing now with a lot more bug fixes already in place."