CVG Fallout 3 Interview: "360 is our lead platform"

Segment of the Interview:

CVG: What are you working on at the moment with Fallout 3?

Hines: We're working towards getting everything into the game. The world hasn't finished being built yet so we're still in the process of putting all of the content in the game, fleshing everything out and playing quests. That sort of thing.

CVG: Are all three versions of the game at the same stage of development?

Hines: For the most part. 360 is our lead platform. Our devs are just big fans of the dev tools available on the 360 and so that's our lead. But PC, PS3, 360 - they're all chugging along.

[Multigamer]

no guesing which platform they prefer and no guessing which version will be the best to.

[Lex Luthor]

word.

[El_Colombiano]

It's okay, everybody makes mistakes...

[Leathersoup]

When you consider that the PS3 audience is smaller than that of the Xbox 360 and is primarily made up of JPRG fans it makes sense that they would develop it for a console on which there are a higher percentage of people who prefer the western style RPG.

That and of course the fact that as the article says, the Xbox is easier to develop for.

[JsonHenry]

It is? That is funny, because every thing I have read to date is based on the PC version... you mean the lead CONSOLE port is the 360?

[Eternal E 808]

^^^haha true but that must mean the ps3 is a port...port.

[barom]

Oblivion was a port, and it's the superior version of the console ports. So it's all good. I highly doubt Bethesda gonna disappoint the PS3 fans. However, a delay i might expect.

[gamesblow]

Nah, This is one port I'm not worried about... Oblivion was better for the ps3 in everyway. Framerate, draw distance and graphics. They'll do a good job on the PS3 version. They have a working knowledge of the system now and their 1st game was amazing.

It shouldn't have to be so 1 sided, yet... it always is with fanboys like yourself.

[Evil0Angel]

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[The WildAttorney]

NOT TRUE! The current version of Oblivion is not better on the PS3. See my comment later on in this thread.

[unlimited]

PS3 Oblivion is slightly better then the 360 version even though xbots will be in denial..

I hope they do good job in porting and their wont be any difference just like call of duty 4 and assassin creed..

[S1D3 EFFEC7]

The PS3 version of Oblivion had 10 more months of development time, and thats one advantage the PS3's version of Fallout 3 can't count on.

[LONEWOLF231]

Yeah and it also had a year to get fine tuned unlike the 360!

[Snukadaman]

what ever happend too "the most powerful console out on the market"??? please...Im not trying too make trouble..but it seems like every friggan game on the ps3 has problems...yet some people admit it...yet still accept them...lets be honest here...warhawk not keeping stats until a while ago...drops from multiplayer games like cod4...game ending bugs on assasins creed...its from the firmware...most people recognize it...Im sorry but it seems that some people accept these problems and say..well maybe next time....its been almost a year now and the excuses are running out folks...its just so frustrating that some people blindly accept these problems...I would glady purchase a ps3 if there were reasons beside "wait till 08 or till mgs4"/

Oh and also about oblivion...there was a patch for lighting a other effects that made the ps3 version better for the 360...so both are on par.

[InMyOpinion]

Timed exclusive due to PS3 problems for sure.

[gamesblow]

You can't possibly think the Ps3's programming problems will always be around, can you? Please... they've already gotten 10 folds better, what's another year going to do for development? there will be a time when Ps3 is a smooth operation, just because you're a fanboy and you're too poor to own more than 1 system don't make it right to harsly judge another. PS3 will be fine. If not more diverse with what it offers in house... Diversity is the key to attract new consumers. And there is always new consumers who haven't bought it.

I see Sony doing way more "things" on the side than anyone right now. Eye toy, Home, Singstar... these things will add up.

[InMyOpinion]

Are you blaming me for being poor? Who's judging who? At least I purchased my 360 with my own money. It's obvious you did'nt since you made it pretty clear that you're too stupid to save up that kind of money by yourself. "Daddy, can I have a PS3?" Ring a bell? lol!

[xsteinbachx]

@3.2

he's said nothing, and implied nothing about being poor he was actually having an intelligent rebuttal, all you've done is made yourself look like a fool, and show your ignorance.

congratulations fan boy. you lose.

[InMyOpinion]

Are you his girlfriend?

[xsteinbachx]

i was trying to see if i could spark some intelligence out of you, but i was greatly mistaken.

[socsca]

Actually, before you call people stupid, stupid, maybe you ought to learn how to read: "just because you're a fanboy and you're too poor to own more than 1 system".
So yah, he did call him poor and his responce was legitimate.

Seriously, that was some dumass sh!t.

Are you his girlfriend? Or are you HIM,? Considering that guy seems to say a lot of fanboyish stuff and is hence losing bubbles...

[maggotmx]

hes still a fanboy regardless ... still pretty stupid if u ask me

[Douchebaggery]

That quote is way more interesting than the falmebait title

[Sexius Maximus]

Unless you're an old school gamer, (and hardcore at that) you wouldn't know who that was. Very cool.

[TruthbeTold]

Chrono on Super Smash Bros Brawl. Nu would be a cool assist trophy. :)

[BigPenguin]

Everything begins with nu, everything ends with nu. This is what I believe, at least for now.

They need to port that game over to a handheld already. I would purchase it, just like I repurchased FFT, FF6, and Disgaea. Dont care that I already have them, I need a bathroom copy :P

[predator]

this game is going to be amazing on all 3 platforms.

[ktchong]

I've been reading that the reason why Oblivion PS3 looked better than the 360 version is because between the time of Xbox 360's release and PS3's, Bethesda came up with a better technique and coding for rendering and lightning. The new rendering technique was included in the PS3 version when it's release. However, because the 360 version had already come out before that, it did not have the better rendering.

Now that the "Game of the Year" versions have come out, the Xbox 360 version has been updated with the new graphic technique as well. So now supposedly the Xbox 360 version looks better than the PS3 version, again.

There have been debates and arguments about it, but I have not not seen any visual comparison for it at all. Because it's considered as an old game, no other site was interested in comparing them.

I'd like to see some comparisons for the GOTY editions of Oblivion between the two versions.

[thereapersson]

If anything, the 360 version is now up to par with the PS3 version, but in no way is it superior. The only time that it was superior was when the PS3 version didn't even exist.

Anyway, I can see the fanboys eating this one up because they care more about a system losing the console race and hating a company than actually playing games. Unfortunately, this will never, ever change.

@ 3.1: I agree completely. Bethesda is an extremely talented studio, and to lump them in with the likes of Ubisoft, EA and the other studios who can't seem to get a grip with PS3 hardware and porting games, they go the extra mile and actually learn the mechanics. Hence the quality port that was Oblivion, even with the extra year of development time.

I think that this game will be stellar no matter what platform gamers buy it on, and I can't wait to read more about it in the future.

[ktchong]

You probably don't remember Daggerfall, but Bethesda made horribly buggy and generic games. They have always been making horribly buggy and generic games.

The only reason their games sell is because there is only one other major studio that makes Western RPGs, i.e., BioWare. All other great Western RPG makers: Origin System, Black Isle, Sir Tech, and New World are gone - and they were all greater and better than Bethesda, who were HORRIBLE and considered a mediocre developer back in the 1990s.

Today, only BioWare and Bethesda remain as the two major Western RPG makers. BioWare makes RPGs *only* for Microsoft's platforms (Windows and Xbox,) and BioWare makes ONE new title every two to three years. So that leaves Bethesda as the *only* Western RPG makers for multi-platforms.

In short, Bethesda is successful only because they have no competition.

[thereapersson]

However, I love the morrowind games and have always thought they were fun.

You mention Black Isle studios... now THERE is a talented dev studio.

I guess my opinion is just subjective to my experience. But you can see where I am coming from with the rest of my points, I hope.

[urban bohemian]

BLIZZARD!!!!!!!1

Don't forget the biggest and based in Cali.

How many copies did World of Warcraft and Diablo sell!!!!!!!!!!

[The WildAttorney]

There have indeed been comparisons. Read just about every review written on the game for each platform. They are pretty explicit that the Xbox 360 version is the superior version. That is why it consistently gets a higher rating.

[JokesOnYou]

CVG: Are all three versions of the game at the same stage of development?

Hines: For the most part. 360 is our lead platform. Our devs are just big fans of the dev tools available on the 360 and so that's our lead. But PC, PS3, 360 - they're all chugging along.

Wow, nice compliment to the 360, great dev tools+dev friendly architechture= efficient game development environment, plus add the fact that 360 owners spend money on great games and its no surprise why Hines made this statement.

JOY

[Douche]

You like men? Ohh, okay.

[smturner68]

I like men, but I think JokesOnYou is straight. Regardless, sexual preference of a few gaming fans doesn't change the fact that the Fallout Developers prefer the xbox 360 authoring tools/game development platform.

[leon76]

The only thing that is interesting for me is that Fallout 3 is going to be on PS3, and sure it will be spectacular, because bethesda did a great job with oblivion for PS3 and they will not disappoint me and all PS3 owners!!! the rest doesn't bother me...

[Hades1337]

There are way more interesting features in this article than the '360 is the lead platform' comment. Stuff like this just causes flaimbait.

[predator]

problem is hades no1 will read it if it didnt have a flambait title, thats the sad truth of this website

[Douchebaggery]

You put out the bait and the fanboys crawled out of their holes.

[snakeak]

and that is exactly why this will be the last time I visit this site...

[TheMART]

Why o why do I see so many posts here but no one is APPROVING???

Good too see that 360 is leadplatform for Fallout 3, but who is surprised about that one having the largest installed base and the best development tools.

[Douche]

You can only say this same old bs for so long. It's really funny how obsessed you are over this flaming. You spend more time following the "bad" news for the PS3 than playing the "great" games you have on your 360. Anyone getting his dish of desperation, with a side of jealousy? Lmao!

[TheMART]

You can only be obsessed with me for so long. Where did I mention the PS3? Or any bad news? I only talked about the good news for 360 owners being the lead platform. It's not me saying so, it's the article. It has the largest installed userbase FACT. It has the best development tools FACT. So what's my opinion in this all? You read too much between the lines dude.

Playing games, posting in the breaks, is that a problem? Anyone getting your desperate attempt of attacking over nothing at all? STFU Lmao! You might want to stick in a BluRay movie now.

[Multigamer]

hahaha talyboyjunior just got pwned by TheMart. go back and watch some movies

[Douche]

What a hypocrite. I hope you know you just pooped on yourself right there. Why don't I go watch a Blu-Ray movie right now? Why don't you just read between the lines of my fingers jack@ss. You should probably be off now buying a couple more 360s. Your warranty's probably about to expire.

[wil4hire]

Why would one watch movies?

I just spent a ton on:

Guitar Hero 3.
Ratchet & Clank
Assasins Creed.
COD4
Uncharted.

I'm sure most ps3 fans right now are playing a couple of those exclusive AAA titles.

I bought all of that on Friday to play on my ps3.

Will the "Games" argument ever go away? Or will the ps3 have no games until it releases halo? or what?

Seriously, the whole "Go play bluray!" is about as funny as me saying "go play Two Worlds!"

[socsca]

Get ur facts right before commenting fanboy, most of those games are NOT exclusives. R & C and Uncharted are the only exclusives, and Uncharted is not out yet... Dumbasssssss

[Jinxstar]

This should make 360 fans happy... Although from what I heard its not timed so does it matter? however if there is another Orange box release issue it will be upsetting. This game looks sweet. I loved the old ones however I am more excited about borderlands myself...

[FirstknighT]

This is one of the most anticipated games of 2008. I'm glad that I get to play the best version on my 360....AGAIN.

[gunnerforlife]

wats this game all about anyways

[UltramanJ]

The latest issue of GFW (games for windows)states that there really is no lead platform for Fallout, and both the PC and console versions are being developed, with an eye on maximizing their strengths.
On the otherhand the magazine did state that Project Origin (the real FEAR sequel) is being developed with 360 as the lead.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

They just don't like being in anyother place but 1st, get used to it this gen.

I'm ready to kick some post apocalyptic ass.

[bluecapone]

looks like another bad port in the works

[Jay da 2KBalla]

I would be pissed if I paid more money for a console that had sh!ttier games than the cheaper rival console. Anyways cant wait to play this on my 360 and its great to know that my 60 dollars will go towards the best version.

[UltramanJ]

I don't understand what the xbots are trying to get at. Are you people that dumb and blind? Wait, we already know the answer..

[TheMART]

Considering the 360 version was out at the same time as the PC version, it's almost a direct port. Considering the PS3 version was a full year later, with 12 months extra dev time it was more then expected it would be upgraded.

Considering with the patch and even more so the Oblivion GOTY edition on the 360 is on par if not better then the PS3 version, I don't understand what PS3 fangirls are shouting about.

And when we consider Virtua Fighter 5, looking better on the 360 with online functionality, I don't know why you and PS3 fangirls can be that stupid. Are they that dumb, blind, and Sony brainwashed? O wait, everybody already knows the answer!

[thereapersson]

Are you sure you and your console aren't having a love affair or something?

[The_Engineer]

TWO YEARS later!!!! xbot fanboys still claim gears looks better than uncharted.....can't have it both ways assbreath.

[TheMART]

Dude... GEARS OF WAR LOOKS BETTER THEN UNCHARTED

Uncharted at best looks as good as Bioshock. The art style differentiates it, like Bioshock does. But it's not on par with the graphics in Gears. It just isn't.

I've even seen the demo of Uncharted at a friends place. Yes the environment has fun things like water, falling trees. BUT besides that the streaming textures in Gears look better, the animation is better, the faces have more expression/better textures.

Thus, even two years later, Uncharted is not on par with Gears. Nothing is. Not even on the 360. COD4 looked nice, graphics are sharp, some impressive effects but overal still Gears of War has the better looks. I don't know which game will and how soonish. Maybe only Gears of War 2 will do the job...

[thereapersson]

And they both look amazing, but Mart your comments are ridiculous. Gears of War having better animation than Uncharted? Okay, you just invalidated yourself there, pal. Come up with whatever fanboyish counterpoint you want, but the fact of the matter is we shouldn't even be comparing the two games in the first place. They both have different art-styles, for god's sakes!

[harv052]

The mart calling PS3 fanboys blind....No denying he's a Xbox360 fanboy and he, also like ANY fanboys, is very blind....

[xionpunk]

Noice. This games gonna be bad ass.

[Bolts]

LOL @ the console fanboys and their stupid flamewars. So pointless. The PC will have the best version of Fallout 3, superior graphics and even more importantly, mods. In fact without mods games like Oblivion are essentially crippled. Its like playing Halo 3 without the multiplayer...you're not able to experience the game to it's fullest potential.

So please STFU with which silly console version is better because they're both inferior.

[socsca]

WORD!

[rowdy 1]

This games true potential will be held back now.

[Bladestar]

Yes, I was thinking about the same thing... This game should be an xbox 360 exclusive.. they are probably leaving lots of features out of the xbox 360 version because A) Not supported by the PS3, B) it would create memory issues on the PS3, C) Take too long to impletement on the PS3, D) Cost too much to implement on the PS3, E) Not worth making it since the game will not sell as many copy on the PS3 to make the money back they invested.

hehe... how you like that?

[harv052]

And for comments like that, you should be in jail and be the inmates exclusive...

[thereapersson]

I knew it...

[gEnKiE]

Well, it was going to be a good game....

[Zhuk]

Only Xbox 360 provides Bethesda with the true next generation platform and development tools they need to give consumers the greatest RPG experience of 2008 with Fallout 3.

With Bethesda's endorsement of the Xbox 360 and therefore rejecting the PS3 as an inferior platform, I am supremely confident that Fallout 3 will be one of the greatest games of all time, continuing in the same pedigree as its predecessors

[The WildAttorney]

Let's be clear about ONE thing here. If you think Oblivion was better looking on the PS3, you are waaaaayy out of date! Last month Bethesda released Oblivion: Game of The Year Edition. The Xbox 360 version contained all of the improvements made to the game in the PS3 version and more. There has already been a comparison done on this issue and everyone agrees that the Xbox 360 version of the CURRENT Oblivion game is the superior version. So PLEASE don't advertise ignorance by claiming that the PS3 version was superior.

[jackdoe]

I don't agree, so that doesn't include everyone then.

[harv052]

You should be called the "FanboyAttorney"!! They're both the same with very minor differences...

[gamesR4fun]

Oblivion rules on the pc the mods are out of this world anything you can think of is there for free.
Now if Fallout follows UT3's footsteps and lets us use mods on the ps3 theres no doubt which will be better. Of course we should all be hoping they will let us run mods on both consoles but unless M$ changes its policies...

[Double-Edged]

i really think sony fanboys are brainwashed.

seriously.

[harv052]

And Xbox Fanboys aren't??

[Salvadore]

As long as the PS3 version doesn't suffer from delay or quality problems.

[socsca]

EXACTLY!!! Can't believe I had to scroll down as far as to comment 27 to actually see someone make sense... Congratulations, smartest comment on this thread so far!

[bluecapone]

all fanboys in General are brainwashed

[The Snake]

Or retarded. Or both.

[thereapersson]

@ 24: Zhuk, what the heck is wrong with you? Are you really that deluded of a fanboy? You sound like a marketing poster-child on Microsoft's payroll. Seriously, every time I see you comment, your statements get more and more one-dimensionally asinine. I'd like to know where in that entire article Bethesda stated that the PS3 is inferior and that they are forsaking the PS3 version of the game.

@ 26: Look at your own kind for the hypocrisy of that statement; A fanboy calling another fanboy brainwashed? LOL.

You people around here take fanboyism to the next level...

[Double-Edged]

gay

[Double-Edged]

true say...

although the 360 is the lead platform...
it doesnt mean the PS3 version will suck.

like the COD4... both versions good.

[thereapersson]

Let's look at this in a positive light. There are more games coming out that are multiplatform where the difference in versions between consoles is slimming down, therefore allowing owners of both systems the chance to have an equal gaming experience. The gap will only continue to shrink in the future.

[Double-Edged]

exactly..
like how PS3 will be the lead platform for MGS4.

BIG LOL!

[thereapersson]

Thanks for the laughs, bro!

edit: oh look, I see I gained my bubble back. Whoever did that, thanks!

[ParaDise_LosT]

I knew I picked the right console :D
I'm a HUGE fan of Fallout :o
But I know bethesda will do a Great job with PS3 port
They're still some of the best out there :)

Great news for all!

[Charlie2688]

And Bethesda didit again yet another franchise that they submit to their consolification process and chop chop away with the original formula

And there went all my hope of a sequel worthy of the name, but seriously with Bethesda history with franchises I couldn't really expect that much >.>

[led1090]

and rightly so fallout belongs to the pc it is whr it all started......and project origin believe me even if the 360 version is the lead version it will sell more on the pc whr fear sold 1.5 million copies not so much on the 360 tho

[OOG FunK]

Game looks sweet cant wait....^^^^btw consoles sell more games then pc fyi........anyway since 360 is kinda like a pc im sure it wont hurt development...now if it was the main focus on ps3 that be a different story since it has different coding and crap ......but yea hopfully its good on all systems...

[felidae]

wow TheMART .. what a stupid comment.

everybody with good eyes can see that Uncharted looks way better and has way better animations and stuff.

Gears is a nice game but c'mon .. don't make yourself look stupid.

Uncharted is like a movie with you playing the main character.

[wil4hire]

Just showed 100% how in-deep he is into the church of xbotism. Hes clearly never played uncharted either, uncharted has streaming textures.. and the trees fall down on one part of the game.. neither of which is in the "demo" he played.

I mean its fun to see bladestars posts and what not because they are funny... but Xmart is just... 100% 4 legs good 2 legs bad. w

While reviewers cant agree on scores, they all have stated Uncharted is the best looking game they have seen/heavily praise the visuals. And the animation is second to NONE.

[Hamadzedan]

its like a drop in the sea(MGS4, DMC4, Uncharted...)

[wil4hire]

I agree.. this is much like the "Blacksite Area 51" story.. everyone acted as if its the next huge game, until the reviews poured out.

[jackdoe]

Lol. PC owners will be pissed. Like how they got pissed with Deus Ex Invisible War with Xbox as the lead platform. PS3 owners shouldn't though as Oblivion was a PC/360 port and that turned out better than okay.

[gEnKiE]

its just because they work with the weakest platform first then they work their way up to the better platform.....lmao. Fanboy at its best! :)

[Spike47]

fanboys are just out of control.The first ones to start a flame war. THe most fanboys out there. And the most immature.
enuff said, gotta go play some games on my ps3.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Haha you're delusional buddy...their horrible on most sides but the PS3 fanboys are the most rabid, they flock to bad 360 news like flies on sh!t. Both suck though.

[jax07]

Spread the word , true gamers are alive and we are out there. Fanboys will fall.FirstKnight said this:"Great news for 360 owners", my question is how the hell do you get excited over something so trivial. So what if it will have better graphics on the 360 the game will still touch ground on the PS3 and PC so everyone will get to play it and I doubt a difference in graphics is going to matter to someone that wants to play the game. Please all of you fed up with this fanboy bullsh*t, we can put a stop to this. Lets turn this site into a place to DISCUSS gaming news and GAMES with other GAMERs not start FANBOY tickle matches.

[kurochi]

That's it, I'm buying the PS3 version. These lazy-ass programmers....

[PS360PCROCKS]

Honestly though who really cares what the lead platform is? They love the development tools on the 360, meaning their using the 360 to build the game, big deal, their being smart about it. The ps3 version wont suffer any problems because the fact that this is Bethesda, Oblivion was a great PS3 game and they know what their doing. Their using the best path for them to make the game, PS3 fans no need to hold your breath, it will be the same game.

[power of Green]

COD4 on PS3 is not a carbon copy of the 360 version.

[harv052]

With most sites giving a 0.1 difference between the two, we know what kind of a fanboy you are and how biased you are....

[Zhuk]

The Xbox 360 version of CoD 4 was proven to be superior in graphics and multiplayer functionality. This is why I chose the Xbox 360 version over the inferior PS3 version, because I know that Xbox 360 delivers for gamers time and time again with the best versions of any multiplatform title

[power of Green]

I'm not biased at all I just give my opinons. I'm a fanboy because I say things you don't want to hear. If that makes me a biased fanboys so be it. http://play.tm/wire/click/1...

[Lex Luthor]

Glad to know i'll be getting the superior 360 verision.
Achievements for this game are gonna be awesome.

[SRuN4]

during the IGN podcast where they had an interview about Fallout3 they said they were developing the PS3 on its own..

[Lex Luthor]

What are the chances of the PS3 version getting delayed?

[Grinchy]

Really dont know what to make of this. I suppose it can be read in a couple of ways.

360 has apparently always been easier to develop for, and considering the largest install base they want to make sure that the game is top drawer on the 360.

Another way to look at it could be that making the same game for multiple platforms means, the devs want to get it working on the lowest common denominator. eg: making sure you make the game you want on the weakest hardware, then adding all the bells and whistles when and where you can to all versions.

Either way this game will be a MUST HAVE. Fallout 1 and 2 are classics. The only thing that worries me is, will it be all crammed on one dvd? I would like to think that we wont be having the same textures and voices used over and over, but dont know how feasible it would be to have a multiple dvd fallout 3.

Obviously, all my own OPINIONS, please dont flame, but just some genuine questions.

[power of Green]

The way I see it, the 360's hardware and tools are carrying the PS3; pushing it to the level of 360. The "lowest common denominator" is easier to develope for if they can first use better tools to make the best of what there is to work with on the weaker platform.

Another way to look at is, If they use the PS3 as the lead the game would be much harder to bring to the standard they wan't in the first place, take much longer to develope and not be as next-gen due to the "lowest common denominator" not being able to match the lead platform in performance in the first place.

[Grinchy]

Agreed. I would imagine the time and cost of making ps3 lead platform might actually hinder fallout 3. It would possibly be out later. However, Bethesda have already got their ps3 engine working nicely, as proved with oblivion. In terms of lead platform, I would go for whichever ends up making the best possible game for ALL platforms. Anyone who was a fan of 1 and 2, regardless of system will be eager for this one. What are your opinions on a hard drive only fallout 3, or do you think multiple discs could work on a game such as this? This is my only real worry, as graphics on both systems are top notch, so now its the smaller things which count. eg: on uncharted, the way Nathan Drakes clothes get wet when he is in water is awsome, and the little touches can really make a difference, dont want to hear the same five actors doing all the voices for example

[Charlie2688]

Well here is my view in the whole situation you present, if it was probably ANY other company (including Interplay that had the rights) they would had made it primarily for the PC to get all the fans of the other Fallouts and then have console version for the newcomers and keep the original formula BUT with our pals at Bethesda things are MUCH different with the success of Oblivion their primary target is the consoles and primarily the 360 and as always they will chop the hell out of the original formula to make it both console friendly and n00b friendly like they did with Oblivion, now Fallout 3 instead of being the turnbased RPG is more like a shooter with RPG elements (and yes I put shooter over RPG since what is the point of the perks if the shotting will be based on twitch gameplay like Oblivion).

With respect to the to the size they will probably do the as with Oblivion recycling everything to make the world seem much bigger that it actually is, if you are worried about space they will make sure with compression it fits the 6+GBs the 360 uses for games since that would be the lead platform and at the same time the lowest common denominator

but at the end every one that is a fan of the original Fallouts knows that this game would feel more like some bizarre spinoff a la Botherhood of Steel than a true sequel to the cult classic Fallout 1 and 2 since that is what Bethesda is expert at >.>

[mesh1]

the 360 dev toolos make devs devlop games like bioshock as they know the system very welll and is more capable of devloping rich and immerssive games with amazing a.i and story telling ive yet to see any game developed on the ps3 that has these things it seems the cell keeps stoping ps3 devs from making games that are for the older market that u actaully have to think .

[ParaDise_LosT]

"Either way this game will be a MUST HAVE. Fallout 1 and 2 are classics. The only thing that worries me is, will it be all crammed on one dvd? I would like to think that we wont be having the same textures and voices used over and over, but dont know how feasible it would be to have a multiple dvd fallout 3"

[ParaDise_LosT]

too lazy to edit #48 so I'll just waste another bubble..it snot like im gonna port here again

well anyway...
Grinchy...Thats not an opinions...thats actually more of a question
and the answer to it is.
'your friggin stupid'

[Grinchy]

obviously your username should be "intellect_lost"

[mesh1]

@grinch ps3 is the lowest common denomintor only on n4sony do they think a 3 core processor running at 3.2gz peice power pc peocessor and a super gpu with ground breaking tech , at the end of the day the 360 cpu/gpu are more powerfull than the sony cell+gpu just fact in temrs of gaming,why do u think $4000 pc dont use cell when sony and who ever their partner was paraded the cell as the new aming chip NO 1 bought it as they new quad was more powerfull .

[HydroBoy]

all platforms get the game , we didnt need to know the need platfrom ...he had to say it , now some of you children will start a debate & arguement *sigh*...Fallout 3 ? ..whats that a shooter ?

[cherdman]

"360 is our lead platform"

Thumbs up.

[power of Green]

Grinchy, did you even read the story/post?.

Are the devs lieing?, honestly the PS3 would be the lead if your theory was correct. Then they would and all the HDR and extra textures etc to the 360 version. They can get a better product faster from the MSFT tools, simple really.

Here's one way to look at it: If PS3 was the lead for multi platform games the edge the 360 has over games time after time would be lost and devs need to compete and need the best product they can make. So I do agree partly to your post but its not exactly the same season in "my opinion".

* You say the 360 is the "lowest common denominator" and the base size justifies the better product.

* I say the devs need to make the best game as fast as possible so that they can compete with other hits and do not care if they hurt PS3 fanboys feelings due to the hardware choices Sony made.

In the end 360 games turn out better regardless of what we think the reasons are.

Most devs won't handi-capp their game's potential to make fanboys happy as they need to compete with other AAA's.

[jazzmanb]

the round peg..your wrong on bethesada, they were always ahead of their time with open ended gameplay,yet until oblivion they never had the power to design the games the way they visioned...oblivion is a masterpiece,and a non talented studion doesnt make masterpieces,got it? good.....geez some of you cats just talk nonsense on here sometimes...there are currently 15 companies out there that make true western rpgs,but there are o0nly a handfull that do it right...

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

Great work, guys. You made me laugh.

All this because of a game? Come on...

We all can play it, right? So PS3 owners will enjoy their version and 360 owners will enjoy theirs.

Nuff said.

[jax07]

You say you are not a fanboy but you have that stupid 360 power icon. If that is not a fanboy flag than I dont know what is. Everything you say is biased you dumb nerd. You are flashing your colors everytime you post. You my not so heterosexual freind have been exposed. You are a fanboy and dont worry denial is the first symptom, the sooner you get past that the faster you can be on the road to recovery. Power of stupid says hes not biased and only gives his opinions yet he says opposing opinions are wrong. Power0fG@y you are a cooch.

[ThisIsWaiting]

http://www.roflcat.com/imag...

[jazzmanb]

anyone who still believes the 360 is the weaker platform[technically] needs to wake the f up...seriously do people have eyes anymore,because its so obvious that the 360 is the more powerful hardware..not only that but its cake to program for..i swear some of you guys well believe whatever you want to believe,even though the truth is so obvios..THE 360 IS MORE POWERFUL!!!!!!OK!!!!!!

[ThisIsWaiting]

be the lead console platform? Its the best gaming console available .. makes total sense to me.

[power of Green]

lol... Fucin fanboy says

" the devs want to get it working on the lowest common denominator. eg: making sure you make the game you want on the weakest hardware, then adding all the bells and whistles when and where you can to all versions"

This fool needs to remind the devs *to add* the " bells and whistles " after they're done with the " lowest common denominator ", seems like the devs keep forgeting to add the "the bells and whistles" to the PS3 versions of games leaving more for the 360 every time.

#55. Say what?.

[Grinchy]

I am not saying the 360 shouldnt be the lead, at this moment in time it DOES make sense with larger install base, better sales, quicker to develop. I am NOT disagreeing. What I AM saying though, is my only real concern about this is that bethesda put the whole game on one dvd, and re use all the textures, like they did in oblivion. Now as much as people want to criticise me, I am asking a genuine question, of whether it would be feasible or possible to go multi dvd with this one, and have real attention to detail. Not using the same textures and audio for example. No one on the 360 side seems to able to debate this, even though I am trying to be as unbiased as I can and give props to all sides.

[mesh1]

nah ur just delusional kid

[jaja1434]

enh I gave you a bubble for staying as neutral for this long, especially with the replies you have been getting...

As for your dvd question, the answer is...I don't know. I think someone brought up Mass Effect so I'll just use it as an example. The game is supposed to have something like 20k lines of spoken dialog. Nevermind all the graphics and gameplay elements, those lines alone take up a lot of space. But when all the compression was said and done, they fit the dialog plus all of the other elements into,"I think" 6 gigs.

So without knowing really anything related to the game I can't say how much memory the game would require, but with the compression tools available today I would bet it could be fit onto 1 DVD. And if not they could do like they did with Blue Dragon where each of the 4 disc had the entire "gameplay world" but only disc one would have the movies/dialog associated with the beginning part of the game. Such as like a cut-scene that serves to drive the story forward and as such is not repeated.

In any case, hope that helped a little. If it didn't confuse you more that is.

[Rattles]

mgs4 - yep wer seen gameplay
KZ2 - yep wer seen gameplay (some fanboys still dont belive its real)
ff13 - well we havint seen eny yet (or have we?)
wardevil - watch this space
8 days - watch this space
getaway - watch this space

face it xbots are sh!ting them selves

[jaja1434]

I'm normally all for a good troll, but with your grammar it's akin to having a 500 pound man telling you your fat.

By this I mean that if your going to troll, at least do so in a way so that you yourself don't look like an idiot. Just a suggestion. :)

[Strife Lives]

I had to post,read the 1st bit of comments.isnt the first time,bt sum of u ps3 owners are snobs.get a life,go get laid. Find a girl thats not with u just for money. I mean seriously, im a law student and i actually earn enough to buy a ps3 anytime i want. Do u think i want one? No. Nothing on it interests me rite now. Maybe next year. So, this whole i paid more for mine,it must be better crap has to end. Maybe some of you need to work for what you want. But,at any rate,most ps3 owners seem/must be under 15 anyway.im 21 btw

[Strife Lives]

Get a fricken life. I think its always geeks that are quick to start naming games when they get threatened. Wait til this. Or wait til that. My friend,i hope u have a gf,if u do.My God, im sorry for her. All she hears from you must be hideo,save the world and final fantasy 13.

[jazzmanb]

grinchy,you have valid points,but in all honesty textures take up very little space actually..sound should be compressed and takes up very little sound as well..oblivion has all kinds of different textures going on..a game like uncharted uses the same textures over and over again however..people need to remember that every pc game and 360 game are on dvd9,and theres always space left on the disc..blue ray is not intended for gaming,though sony would hope believe that theory..in reality developers well just uncompress everything,and say hey we used 19 gigs of space...of course people that dont understand how media sorage works well say " games like rathchet and uncharted are only possible on blue ray"...not only would they be wrong,but it would run smoother compressed on a dvd9..when the orange box[5 full games] mass effect and oblivion fit on 1 dvd with room to boot,i think its safe to say that blue ray is not needed for gaming period,but rather a luxury t o those developers who like using cgi and fmv in there games[square enix etc...

[Grinchy]

Ha! you said 2 magic words there. Mass Effect. Totally off subject, but even as a ps3 owner that game is looking sweet!

Strife Lives : Not all people here are 15 years old, or indeed need to get laid or are snobs. I am well into games, and would like to be able to debate pros and cons with games and systems without the insults. The problem is, the majority of gamers DO seem to be 15 years old, and have their console of choice brought for them.
Also, you are a student and you are telling people to work?? LOL!!!

[OOG FunK]

stickn it to teh fanboys lol layn down the "law" lol bubbles for you

and yea anyway Metal Gear....Looks awesome but hey what can ya say when the behind the back view is pretty similar to a proven game called splinter cell that surprisingly uses an aiming technique that zooms in the same to....but game shall be awesome anyway cuz they usually have coo stories....

Killzone 2....until it comes out cant bank on this...since well we see what Killzone 1 ended up being.....and the fact they disappeared for a few years after they showed the first footage because they couldnt back up what they were saying and finally now what 3 years later they will finally deliver? um yea.... ill wait and see on that...since I think in the end it might average and 85-87 ish and not be all its cracked up to be

FF.....will this series jus die alrdy damn 13 games talk about over doing it

wardevil and 8 days....until they are out we will never know...8 days may end up being one of those omg wow and bam flops tho

getaway....wasnt this suppose to be comn long ago?

Btw dont think im flamn on these games hell I cant wait to try some of them but I am a realist not a foolish fanboy

[Rattles]

im sorry but if you think most ps fanboys are 15 you probly have neva played on xbox live

and it looks like im not the one getting threatened you cant hide the fact that these are probly gona be the best looking games wen they come out' take a chill pill or better yet go get laid

[Strife Lives]

Good one, I think not. Its ok to debate about games. But,its not ok to discriminate based on socio economic norms like income. What next? We debate along racial lines? Im just saying,im sorry i had to rant on this thread,but it gets annoying when income is brought into the equation as to the choice of console we prefer

[Rattles]

bubbles man ill say sorry for brining up games that have nothing to do with fallout its just stupid comments like this

'57 - Why wouldnt the 360 ...
be the lead console platform? Its the best gaming console available .. makes total sense to me.'

it's people like that that need a reminder of the games comming to the ps3

[Lex Luthor]

I'm a COD4 Veteran.
Aced Mile High Club On veteran.
It was extremely painful and fustrating but it was damn well worth it.

1000 gamerpoints. WOOHOO!!!!!

Heart breakers and Life takers

R.I.P Gaz, you're a legend.

[junk56]

i dont find this a big deal
since almost every company now can make games on the ps3 and 360 on par.

except cough EA.

but i have to say, 360 games in general are a lot less better looking than ps3 exclusives.

it just seems the nice looking 360 games are all running on the unreal engine.... and that gets really sickening to look at because there is absolutely no style in that engine after u watch it after a while in a few games

[Mighty Boom]

be coming to the 360.

Here is the news the Fanboys quickly blocked.

http://www.xboxtoday.ca/111...

[ASSASSYN 36o]

They know where the money is.

[TrooGamer]

For christ sake what a way to twist the article......

NAUGHTY DOG ARE OWNED BY SONY!!!!!