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TGS 2011: PS3 At 51.8 Million, PSP Hits 71.4 Million

Sony's TGS 2011 press conference is in full swing, and they've started with a couple encouraging sales numbers. The PS3 and PSP have sold quite well.

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TheMyst4609d ago

Excellent numbers for SONY. Keep up the great work!

cobblestone194609d ago

Every disagree you (and I) get is from a butthurt 360 fanboy.

Anyways... Congrats, Sony. You have made this gen for me.

qwertyz4609d ago

not necessarily. ps2 has over 120 million units ahead of either competition at this time last gen so compared to ps2 ps3 isn't doing too well. Ps2 was the greatest console EVER anyone that denys this is lying to themselves.

Bathyj4609d ago

Soif you're not doing better than the best ever, you're not doing too well?

I guess everyone and everything whose second in anything sucks.

Take that Titanic, you're only the 2nd highest grossing movie of all time.

kaveti66164609d ago

Well, BathyJ, as many people are eager to say, "Sony doesn't compete with anyone but themselves." And by that metric, they're losing.

red2tango4609d ago

sorry qwertyz but I think PS3 is a lot better than PS2. the only reason why I still have a BC PS3 is because of Socom 2. Other than that, PS3 has a lot of great exclusives and graphics.

stonecold34609d ago

i think ps3 has sold more than 53 million by now because those ps3 numbers come from wiki sony have sold 51.8 million june 30th 2011

dangert124609d ago

True say the Ps2 started selling like made when it hit the price the PS3 has only just now hit

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Dante1124609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

Edit: Lol, nvm. These are the old numbers. Make sense since they have not given their fiscal report yet. My bad. Don't flame me.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

kreate4609d ago

Hey I'm not a xbox fanboy or anything but the numbers aren't that impressive to me.

The numbers are just 'ok'

And with the recent price drop, ps3 should be flying off the shelves here in america. But its not. Outside of california and ny. Rest of the 48 states seem to favor the 360 regardless of a ps3 price drop.

Going on the 6th year. Ps3 only sold 51+ million. thats impressive? o_O;;

Ryo-Hazuki4609d ago

Just because xbox may outsell ps3 in the states by like 10k per week since the price cut doesnt mean ps3 is not selling well. Price matters alot in America and there is 199 dollar model for the 360. And ps3 has been consistently outselling 360 week by week world wide. And thats what matters. If the ps3 and 360 both had one model in th U.S for the same price each it would probably be dead even.

As for taking 6 years to get to 52 million....well it took the first 3 years to even get the ps3 price to a normal level. That was there mistake but they will learn from it with the ps4.

SoapShoes4609d ago

Only going on the 5th year, genius.

fr0sty4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

As a console that launched with no real solid lineup, a $600 price tag, shortages, and with poor developer support, to be steadily closing the gap between it and Xbox 360 more and more by the year is doing amazing. Remember, 360 launched $200 cheaper, and was easier to make games for so the initial round of games as well as multiplatform titles heavily favored 360. Remember how bad the frame rates were on early games like Madden for PS3? We've come a long way, and PS3 has shown that it has grown into it's role as a solid competitor for the Xbox 360 quite well. Hell, even for the Wii now that it's sales have fallen. PS3 still stands a chance to come in a very respectable second place by the time all is said and done.

They may not have broken records this generation, but even Wii with all of it's motion control hype and cheap price tag couldn't pull that off either. Our economy taking a huge hit can be attributed to that. So, comparing this generation directly against last gen's sales really doesn't hold up considering the different circumstances.

All 3 consoles have done great sales wise. There really was no clear "failure". Even if PS3 passes up 360, it still means that a machine that has dated tech like DVD, no standard hard drive, pay to play online, and didn't even launch with features such as Wifi or HDMI built in gave the PS3 one hell of a run for it's money. PS3 still isn't ahead to this day, though it's closing the gap steadily. MS even proved it was capable of selling it's highly criticized motion controller device to the masses, and that they could use it to revive a system who's sales were beginning to slack the previous year.

I think this generation has gone about as good as it could have given our economy, and that is true for all 3 platform holders.

It would be interesting to see how the results would have been had they all launched at the same price and at the same time.

TheMyst4609d ago

Kreate

PS3 has been selling on average 2-3 million more per year than the 360. Get this through your thick skull, THE 360 HAD ONE YEAR on the market completely alone, ONE AND HALF YEARS in Europe. So if this number are just "ok" then you must think the 360 is doing terrible.

Nathaniel_Drake4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

"Going on the 6th year. Ps3 only sold 51+ million. thats impressive? o_O;;"

Coming from a 1 year delay from the 360 that has to be a record broken, I mean in all honesty if it were the PS3 with a 1 year head start MS would have been out of the console business so that is impressive yes! :0

kreate4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

i never talked about the sales of the 360.
360 sales isnt that impressive either.

but it is impressive considering its plagued with RROD and lack of exclusives, stupid gold memberships and crap like that.

just like how ps3 is impressive considering its the most expensive console out there.

both ps3 and xbox sales are around 50-55 million. in this case ps3 is more impressive cuz it has a 1 year delay compare to the 360.

again, looking at these numbers, i still dont think ps3 sales is all that, at least here in america.

EDIT:if u are content with ur console sales at 50-55 million unit sold, thats fine.

Mr-Dude4608d ago

I'm geting a little annoyed about the Americans..

Do you really think America is the Number 1 country in the world? USA= not world!

Get it in your head!

tiffac0084608d ago (Edited 4608d ago )

They're gaming consoles they are not a product of necessity and their lifespan is short not to mention the fanbase this generation are evenly distributed between the big 3.

So 50-55M are good numbers for the industry.

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labaronx4609d ago

that's pretty good for something on this site continually refereed to as a failure

SoapShoes4609d ago

Not to mention it's their first try at handhelds AND the only handheld not to die off against Nintendo. Doubt it'll get to 100 mil but I could see the Vita doing that.

Blaine4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

Yeah, 100 mil is still a ways off, but Sony's really making a big PSP push in Europe right now. Also, I think promoting the PSP now is a great move for securing the Vita a place in the market once it comes out. I'm sure a lot of these new PSP gamers will be looking to upgrade once they see the Vita!

SlipperyMooseCakes4609d ago

Continually called a failure on this site? Yeah I'm not too sure about that. This site if anything is biased towards the PS3.

Anyway, great numbers. I'm interested in seeing some more games for the Vita. I'm not usually into handhelds but the Vita has caught my attention.

labaronx4609d ago

not n4g in particular but a lot of the blog post and articles submitted

user8586214609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

It failed because it's games dont sell apart from japan (need proof look at peace walker.. tut tut) and has as of this moment pretty much no dev support, guess sony isn't banking on the psp to follow sony's usual 10 year life span

DaTruth4608d ago (Edited 4608d ago )

Peace Walker is a DD title!(digital copy here) By that logic, all PC games don't sell!

And anybody who ever heard of a Vita is gonna buy all their PSP games digitally since hearing! Even when there were just rumours, we all knew there wasn't gonna be a UMD drive in the Vita!

Excited2play4609d ago

I'm glad Sony is doing well for themselves, especially since the earthquake.

Keep up the good work guys!!

DiRtY4609d ago

Actually I expected a little bit more PS3s sold. The number is shipped I guess (even referred as "sold" means "sold to retailer")and VGC for example has it at 52.2m sold to consumers, so it is overtracked over there.

CGI-Quality4609d ago

These numbers date back to June. Did you read the article?

DiRtY4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

why so offensive?

I quote the article if you like: "According to the current count, the PS3 has hit 51.8 million"

I thought current count means... you know current numbers.

This is not trolling, I was just wondering. Calm down guys.

Where does it say June though?

Pedobear Rocks4609d ago

These are already stated sales numbeers...not up to date. VCG changed their number to this last time and has added a bit each week to make you think they know what the hell they are doing.

jneul4609d ago

ignore dirty he/she obvioulsy doesn't understand that these are old figures, and wants to believe ps3 is so very much behind, carry on dreaming is all i can say

CGI-Quality4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

Who's defensive? I asked a simple question. Seems like YOU need to chill out.

The article speaks on old numbers (PS3 hit 51 million in June).

TruthBTold4608d ago

Shipped is sold. That goes for any manufacturer. You didn't think everyone just made their product and gave it to a distributor to hold and see if they sell did you. Distributors BUY an amount from manufactures for a discounted price and then make their profit once they sell it to consumers. Sony and nintendo and ms make their money once they ship to stores placing orders.

DaTruth4608d ago (Edited 4608d ago )

Fist, the term is "defensive".

Obviously you intended to cause offense, seeing as how there's nothing in his comment that should leave you with the impression that he was offended! It's like your practically begging for someone to be offended! Did he lock the caps or something?

Unless you're asking yourself why you're so defensive by him correcting you? Because that was the closest thing to defensiveness I saw there!

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EliteDave934609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

Amazing numbers! Sony ftw!

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 17h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 4h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 14h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 13h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 13h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 10h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 12h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 12h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos2d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola2d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken22d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga22d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken22d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6422d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long22d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197222d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic22d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12522d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91322d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer22d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher22d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher22d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken22d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic22d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2322d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218322d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder22d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts22d ago

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