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Does Microsoft Even Need to Build a Better Xbox?

Apparently, big game producers are quite happy with the plateau console development has hit, and big names in the industry like Frank Gibeau, of EA said there’s not any kind of urgency for Microsoft or Sony to develop a new gaming system. His exact words were “It’s hard for me to conceive what you would do on a PlayStation 4. The displays are already 1080p, you’re already connected to the Internet. … You could make it faster, you could have more polys and you could up the graphics a little bit … but at what cost?”

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Bumpmapping4635d ago

Actually they do that's why I sold mine.

rabidpancakeburglar4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

That article is over 2 years old and from before the 250gb slim release so I hardly think that the failure rate is anywhere near as high now. They do need to eliminate the RROD almost completely though.

guitarded774634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

@rabidpancakeburglar
Bubs for calling them out... We all know the 360 had massive failure rates before the Jasper chip set, since then the system has been very reliable. I own a Jasper Pro model and a slim and have had no issues with either. If it's a question of overall hardware, I'm quite happy with my 2 XBOXs and 2 PS3s still... an announcement of new hardware wouldn't bother me as long as they aren't coming out until at least 2013 and both systems are under $400 and both systems are backward compatible (360, PS3) with full online support for the previous generation games and motion controllers.

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TheXgamerLive4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Any type of failure rate is less than 3%,less than. And, less than the ps3. The ps3 has a higher failure rate than the Xbox 360 now.
in fact, the 12 months or 2 plus years ago when they upgraded the old xbox, the rate dropped to approx. 6%.
So, any rrods now would be original units or well made up stories like a couple i've already read on here.

check it ya selfs.

pixelsword4634d ago

Yes.

Yes, you do.

Signed,

every game squeezed out of content since 2007.

Dee_914634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

@xgamer We believe you /s

new console wont = more games
this gen can go on for atleast 3 years
slightly better graphics isnt enough to make a new console

BlmThug4634d ago

Ive had my Xbox 360 Pro model for over 2 years and never any problem

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34634d ago

It has cross-game chat and Gears 3 looks better than UC3, so no...no they don't.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34634d ago

"Actually they do that's why I sold mine."

You have a picture of Resistance in your avi, you lost all credibility with that, along with your one bubble, lol.

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subtenko4635d ago

Next time they better not screw it up with all the dang problems. Thats why Im not gonna be a launch buyer with the next xbox..I'll wait and see how everyone else is doing with theres before I buy one.

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

Lazy_Sunday4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

Oh, and while you're at it, stop making people pay for XBL.

There you have it, a better console.
You didn't even know you had it in you Microsoft!
Sometimes MS, I wonder--what's going on in that mind of yours? I mean, no self-respecting corporation spews that much shit out of their mouth just to troll. Especially since they're definitely smart enough to know better. Right?

... /sarcasm...

andrewsqual4635d ago

Why didnt you say this 2 years ago Microdick when the only machine you had on the market was a overheating piece of shit?

jc485734634d ago

well, I think they need more games. I feel like I keep coming back to the same games over and over again. I just wish I could have a little bit more of the other genres.

Parasyte4634d ago

I'll agree with you on that. It feels like the only games that the 360 has are FPS games and Kinect.

Maddens Raiders4634d ago

Hell no, the 360 is future proof just like DVD.

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Chaostar4635d ago

They have been constantly improving the hardware ever since it launched. It has gone from unreliable, noisy, bulky and wifi-less to slim, reliable and quieter with built in wireless N.

I'm sure there's always room for another revision say... a slot loaded blu-ray drive that doesn't eat disks if you knock your console? Or, even better, compatibility with non-proprietary HDDs.

I agree that it's still too early to jump into completely new hardware but it doesn't mean they should stop improving the one we have.

gamingdroid4634d ago

As long as MS are adding features and not removing them, I'm cool with that.

ThanatosDMC4634d ago

Yeah, I want them to get rid of the crappy disk tray. Damn thing damaged my beloved Dead Rising 1.

Peaceful_Jelly4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

Xbox needs blu-ray so third party devs stop gimping games and then offering the leftovers as DLC a day after of its release. Then I wouldn't mind sharing FFvsXIII even though I know Square's gonna gimp it anyway to make it multiplat... =/

NukaCola4635d ago

The Xbox LIVE interface is more than fine, but the hardware needs a major tune up. They need a quit tray-less disc drive with something more than a DVD. DVDs are too small and it's holding back the industry. The PC can do it cause of its full installing process, but with 360 MS's charge out the ass when there are more than 3 discs and as a console they are really restrictive of HDD space. I think that both systems(Xbox3,PS4) need at least a TB of HDD right of the bat.

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qwertyz4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

lol BOTH sony and MS need new consoles even a 2005 DUAL gpu high end pc is more powerful than ps3/360 lol the 512 mb ram both consoles use has been outdated since 2004!

the ps3 version will be better because it comes on one disk, has better sound quality and also comes with a free game but both will look the same according to dice. This is the same thing they said about bad company 2 and they where right in fact the 360 version actually did some things better than the ps3 counterpart.

the only reason no 360 gameplay has been shown is because EA has a marketing partnership with sony just like activison has with MS.

the pc version of battlefield 3 will make all console games look like ps2 games in comparison anyways oh I forgot

metro 2033
witcher 2
shogun 2
gta iv with mods
crysis 1(even without mods)
crysis warhead
crysis 2(even without mods or directx 11 patch or high res texture pack)

already make all your console games look last gen when maxed out :/

even a 2006 SINGLE gpu high end pc is between 5-7 times more powerful than ps3/360 LOL pathetic

most multiplatform games taht have come out on pc over the last few years look better than uncharted 3, gears 3, forza 4 and all your other console games.

metro 2033 is less than 10gb yet makes all your console games including the best looking ones like crysis 2,RAGE,uncharted 3, gears 3 etc look like ps2 games how do you explain that ?

crysis 1 is also about 12 gb yet makes all your console games look like ps2 games including the 40gb killzone 3 how do you explain that ? it even looks MUCH better than any console game at medium settings with 8xaa 16xaf @1080p

bulletstorm is only about 6gb yet looks better than ANYTHING on consoles how do you explain that ?

firstly most of the blu ray space is used to store high quality sound and 1080p cutscenes. killzone 3 for example is 40gb total and only 9gb out of that 40 is game data the rest of the space is taken up by CUTSCENES

secondly and most importantly storage media only HOLD the game it is RAM, memory bandwidth and processing power(both cpu and gpu) that drive the game and both consoles are equally crappy in this department.

MS is lying by the way AMD has been working on the nextbox gpu since 2009 MS gave them about $200-250 million contract to develop a brand new gpgpu architecture for the nextbox I do know the new GCN architecture(vector + scalar) that will power high end hd7000gpus thats are set to launch late this year are based on the gpgpu architecture being developed for nextbox . if you don't know what GCN is check the link below

http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

How do I know this ? because I work at AMD but I don't know anything about what it will be capable of as I'm not anyone particularly important nor am I on the development team or even know where they are developing the chip. MS didn't want VLIW because its not suited for GPGPU tasks such as AI and other traditionally cpu workloads and aside from this its terribly inefficient so the dropped the money for a new architecture to be designed

MS does need new FIRST PARTY studios because haardare is NO good if there are few first party studios with the talent required to produce high quality exclusives the only such studios MS has are 343i and turn 10 while sony has about 16

by the way "Raven_Nomad" is a hardcore xbot lol

dark-hollow4635d ago

The xbox 360 is holding the ps3 back,
While if you said the pc (which is YEARS ahead of the ps3 tech) is being gimped by the consoles they start with the names calling and calls you "pc douchebag, elitist, jerk etc."

Can someone please explain this flawed logic to me?

Laika4635d ago

your such a blind pc fanboy. it makes me sad.

cyclonus0074634d ago

So you're saying pc is better? I'm confused.

Ninjamonkey824634d ago

Wish people would stop comparing PC to console.

Console vs Console ok then theres a comparsion but comparing a console to a pc is just stupid tbh. The experence for a start is different.

Even when you play Mutiplatform games ie COD keyboard + mouse vs Joypad = different.

Even if you use the pad on PC version the autoaim is disabled by default. On the console version even with autoaim disabled there is still a slight hint of it for correction on aim.

graphics on a high end 590gtx vs a ps3 or xbox just cant be compared so why do it.

End of the day i play the xbox and ps3 and enjoy them both but i play them for what they are games consoles and if i was to compare and i dont tbh id look at what the other console game looked like.

I play my pc and of late the gameplay has become rather stale ive found myself playing the one game alot and my clan has been waiting for the release of BF3, ive found myself playing my consoles more atm.

But theres no doubt when it comes down to it. PC will always win out when it comes to Graphics can't go comparing there thats just stupid.

Skynetone4634d ago

qwertyz

ill guarantee you your not gaming on a 2006 pc so stop with all your bs

practically every home has a pc do you thing your unique in owning one, and if you thing there all pumping out 1080p 60 fps your delusional, consoles are there to fill a certain market, just like the ds, what the 360/ps3 do very well is bring a pc like experience to everyone

even a gtx 590 on max settings cant keep a constant 60fps on metro 2033

A-Glorious-Dawn4634d ago

Wow, it's beyond funny now, this is ridiculous.

Your life must be one sad, sad state of affairs.
I pity you, man...

Do you even enjoy gaming with an attitude like that?
I game on PC/PS3.. I enjoy them both equally...
What is it that compels you to try and reaffirm the superiority of a computer over console?

I think it's pathetic. Gaming is about the games, you are so lost it's hard for me to comprehend what kind of person is behind your comments..

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_Aarix_4634d ago

Why does ms need blu-ray. WHY DOES EVERYBODY THINK BLU-RAY IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE DISC IN EXISTENCE.

_Aarix_4634d ago

Why does ms need blu-ray. Why the hell does everyone think blu-ray is the only disc in existence and ms just cant either use hd dvd ir make their own discs.

madjedi4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Hd dvd discs are not being produced anymore, ms needs a higher capacity disc next gen, br discs are cheap, reliable and have more than enough capacity and will likely have faster read speeds.

It isn't a pro sony thing it's a practicality/common sense thing, but if ms wants to be stupid and try to resurrect hd dvd lol, btw lacking the ability to play br movies next gen is a mistake.

Make their own discs, yeah right ms doesn't make any hardware, they are a software company, not a hardware company.

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wwm0nkey4635d ago

Yes, lets face it in late 2012 or 2013 these console WILL be outdated. I know they want to hold on for as long as they can but we are hitting the limit.

Wonder what new disc format the new Xbox will be using though as we know they will not stick to DVD9 this time around.

theonlylolking4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

The next xbox will use the SED which stands for

S-screw
E-everybody
D-disc

It will have 30gb of space when it is dual layered.

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai1d 14h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga1d 5h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens521d 9h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_1d 4h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM1d 4h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka12h ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_1d 4h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 22h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 12h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 4h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 2h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 1h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC16h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 18h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 6h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 21h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 20h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC16h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 1h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k420h ago(Edited 20h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k420h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 20h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 10h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 3h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 20h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 19h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 3h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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