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There Should Be a Price Drop Coming For Microsoft Shortly

Jeff from Volatile Mode explains the urgency Microsoft should take in responding to the recent price cut by Sony. If not, Microsoft threatens the bleak lead they hold over their biggest competitor.

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gw4k4621d ago

A price cut would only help extend the lead that MS has now. Their sale figures have been impressive for a long time now.

If Sony wants to keep up, they should do another price cut. Hmmm, maybe even go the way of HP and do a fire sale just like the Touchapd.

Speaking of the HP TouchPad, if you missed out on the killer deal, just wait a few weeks. HP is producing another million of them right now. All will be sold for $99!

KingSlayer4621d ago

Sony's really sweatin' that 4 million console lead the 360 has WW. No really, they are.

Abash4621d ago

Would it be the worst thing in the world if the PS3 outsold the 360? I mean, it wouldn't change anything and both Sony and MS are doing great now. There really is no need for a 360 price drop

gw4k4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

The gains that MS is making month after month is enough to make Sony nervous. Think about it man. Stop begin a fan boy for just a moment. I'm not knocking the PS3.

By the way, MS really cares about it's gamers. Sure the bottom line is business but Sony is the same way. It only makes sense.

Also, if Sony out sold the 360 I would congratulate them. I love Sony and own many of their products including the PS3, PSP, TV, etc

darthv724621d ago

it will be on the stand alone kinect unit. I can see them selling for $99. If MS wants to sell kinects to the millions who have the older 360 then that is what needs to be done.

They wont cut the price on the retail 360 but instead add more freebie games to it. Or create various different game bundles.

DebateMaster4621d ago

@gw4k

Why should Sony care more about the profit MS make than their own?

DebateMaster4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

people have to understand that in business, profit is more important than sales.

I swear people on this site seam to think this is a war and not a business.

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WrAiTh Sp3cTr34621d ago

It would be great to have a price cut, but I personally don't see the need. It's still less than the PS3...

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fluffydelusions4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

Ms will price cut and advertise the hell out of it. Still not sure why Sony hasn't advertised anything about their price cut.

tiffac0084621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

Sony actually did with the new KB "Long Live Play" commercial. Not exactly the focused commercial that one would expect like they did when the Slim came out.

Of course there is also the matter of the volume of ads Sony is putting out there because they've already said before they can't out-advertise MS and they probably can't do so either.

As for the 360 price cut. I still think its too early especially if the PS3 price cut doesn't affect the sales of the 360. I see no reason for MS to cut into their profit.

Drastic times calls for drastic measures but this ain't that time not for the 360 anyways.

dangert124621d ago

a £50 price cut off xbl live would see me purchase an xbox otherwise they can drop the console price all they want im not stupid enough to pay back what was knocked off through xbl over the years

darthv724621d ago

is it really such a big deal that it costs $5 a month for live. Break it down even further and it comes out to $.16438356164... per day over the course of a year.

That is cheaper than feeding those starving kids in other countries. Not to mention you get more satisfaction from live than you do wondering if they really are feeding those starving kids in other countries.

dangert124621d ago

im not paying for charities iver
yes the argument is tired but its still valid if you dm paying twice 2 use a p2p connection for gaming ok

kreate4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

Since it isnt a big deal.
Can someone tell MS to just let me play online for free?

I accept ur arguement xboxlive is better than psn.
Just like how the ps3 is better than the xbox360.
Or the pc being better than the ps3.

But I simply cannot afford to pay for that 0.05618 or whatever cents per minute or 60 buck every year becuz I got other expenses I hav to add thats like 0.0049562 per min and it adds up.

I cant even pre-order any games cuz gaming is too expensive. There some games I simply cannot even get or ever play cuz I dont hav enough money to pay for all of them.

kaveti66164621d ago

"im not paying for charities iver"

Wow.

lMHl4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

@dangert12
I guess some can afford it and others cant.

I got a new hobby for ya....Crack

dangert124620d ago (Edited 4620d ago )

@kreate

Last pre order game?
3rd strike
Am I a plus member?
yes

so honestly what is your point also £>>>$ It cost more over here and you get less to the service. alot less then the ps3 offers for free,

@kaveti6616 I work for my money and spend It how I want to spend It If I don't feel to give what I worked for to charities I don't this does not make me good or bad positive or negative...

@lMHl
Never said I needed a new hobbie...crack? are you stupid I have no money problems In the end that can turn out way more exspensive the gaming plus I need not turn to drugs as I have no interest in them

wear does this talk about not having money come from? I said i'd buy an xbox if they got ride of xbl fee's correct me if im wrong but im sure the xbox cost more then 12mnths live

darthv724620d ago

what you are is a hypocrite. Do you even realize that by being a member of "plus" you can really no longer differentiate yourself from the free members?

You have to really think about that but I will save you the time. When you are a paid member of anything there is a different outlook you now hold on what that membership means. You are telling sony that you will pay to play their "free" games for as long as you keep your membership current.

You cant say you can play online for free anymore because you are paying for the service if you use it or not. I am not talking in the sense of required to play but in the simplest of...you are paying for a service you may not take advantage of and sony still get the $$ if you do or dont.

At least with MS they were up front about it. Charging from the first day and ever increasing what you get from that membership. Sony and their free philosophy is going in the opposite direction. We are suddenly seeing a robbing from the poor to give to the rich. Meaning what once was available to the free members is now being restructured into the paid side of things.

Sony may keep online play free but there will be a restriction. Game size caps and player limits will be imposed to those who arent paid members. They know that to get people to sign up they have to slowly start taking things away from them to squeeze them into the corner of plus no longer being an option.

Like I said about live. It was paid from the beginning and has been getting better. So much that they never needed to create a free side but they did and with 90% of the same rights as the paid members. That last 10% is the online play aspect. There are lots of people who dont game online but they use live to chat and download movies and games and yes MS has free stuff too that is free for all with no strings attached.

Sony had to start off free because there wasnt anything their service was good for except the online play. So that is why we will see them setting limits to those free players. And yet they can still proclaim they offer free online play.

MS has made a killing off of live. You dont think sony wants to as well??? Every new feature for PSN will come to the Plus members I guaranty that.

I pay for live but I dont pay for psn. At least for now anyway.

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Clarence4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

Your funny. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 for the last 3yrs, and at a higher price point. This year the PS3 has been outselling the 360, this was before the price drop. M$ has had a cheaper console on the market since then gen started. Yet it continues to get outsold.

The only way the 360 will outsell the PS3 is if they do the Fire sale.

@KingSlayer
Sony's not sweating that 4m lead from M$, because its not a 4m lead.

@Kingdoms
What momentum are you talking about? How can M$ have the momentum when they have been outsold for the past 3yrs? Sony is the one with the momentum. Every year the PS3 sells more.

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kingdoms4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

A price cut would make sure Sony couldn't gain any ground but MS has a business to run it doesn't matter what us 360 fanboys wan't. MS feels risking a slow down or possible loss in top sales is worth the maximum impact of a real cut later on due to the current momentum being so high now.(they're not only going to risk PS3 outselling the 360, they don't mind too much because they think an official cut later on will have a greater impact than the last one)

After Sony released their figures first for the first time in a long time earlier this year, MS released theirs 2nd showing with out a doubt the 360 was beating PS3 WW, Sony couldn't wait to adjust the real figures after seeing MS's this last time. Sony dropped the price and MS feels bundles will be good enough to combat Sony's cut forced by the 360's momentum.

Zir04621d ago

Pricecut would be overkill, MS likely are biding their time before the final blow.

DebateMaster4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

unlike morons like you, microsoft know profit is more important than sales.

Sometimes just because you sell more, doesnt mean you make more money. Why do yuo think sony doesnt have a 199 ps3 right now? Or why nintendo waited to cut the price of the 3DS?

lMHl4621d ago

hey dont forget what you were looking at when you wrote that comment MS is alot bigger then sony i doubt there going anywhere.

DA_SHREDDER4621d ago (Edited 4621d ago )

I imagine COD sales are gonna break records again if this is true. Everyone and their mom is gonna have one. Especially if they cut it to $100 bucks, my God I would have one in every room in the house.

jacksonmichael4621d ago

There was a Simpsons 360? Damn... I want that now.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 3h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle14h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188112h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio11h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7237m ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218313h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga12h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica53m ago(Edited 53m ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10117h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos16h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac16h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic13h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 13h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 9h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 9h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 9h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 5h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 8h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 8h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 22h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 19h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 12h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 14h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 10h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 22h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 8h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 7h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger4h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 23h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 23h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 20h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 22h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 22h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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