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Steam Offering Refund For Every Sold Copy Of From Dust After Breach Of Terms

Ubisoft’s God game From Dust is has been available for less than 24 hour but it’s already being refunded by online distribution giant Steam after a breach of terms by Ubisoft.

rawrockkillz5049d ago

Wow I was tempted to get this game. Thank you Ubisoft for making that an easy decision.

AntoineDcoolette5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

So are we able to buy the game RIGHT NOW and then get a refund but keep the game too? lolol

BattleAxe5048d ago

Glad Steam is sticking to their guns on these issues. Having said that, Uplay is one of the better rewards systems out there, but the need for a constant connection is inexcusable. I wonder if all the big publishers will start to push back against Steam.

snipes1015048d ago

I think DRM totally screws over paying customers and ultimately doesn't do any good. Despite all the protection, piracy is still rampant and I still can't play half the content on my xbox when not on live because of this crap.

Whatever good it has done has been lost on me because it's just a big massive inconvenience.

jib5048d ago (Edited 5048d ago )

@snipes

that usually only happens when you switch 360s. did you transfer all your licenses at xbox.com?

Mr_Lu_Kim5048d ago

Well its free on thrpiratebay right now if DRM gives you the craps.

Works with a fake uplay account and once the simple crack is applied it plays offline.

only 1.4gig, but seriously this game is not worth the $15 Steam wants, the refund or the download if you pirate it.

Another in the very long line of very average Ubisoft titled.

Rush5048d ago

Games like this make me glad I pirate the odd game or 2.

Thanks for making it easier for me to save my $15 Ubisoft.

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FriedGoat5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

strangely this game features a DRM that got cracked two days ago. Whats the point of sticking something that causes so much commotion in there when it can be bypassed in 10 minutes.

This means the pirates get to play offline if they want but people buying the game get screwed.

Heartnet5049d ago

Thats like saying why have security guards when people are gonna steal from the store anyway?

Ducky5049d ago

^ No, it's like performing a cavity search on all your customers while leaving the back door of the store open and unguarded.

FriedGoat5049d ago

@FatOldMan Well said sir.

SilentNegotiator5048d ago (Edited 5048d ago )

It's like security questioning someone while another guy is screaming and shooting a gun in the background. The guy in the background is going to shoot his way through, so stop bothering this other guy and take cover. You're not a cop, the national guard, or the army, so don't try to stop him with your 'billy-club of justice'

I see DRM as that mall cop you know that harasses anyone without a cane for anything as wild as coughing.

MAJ0R5048d ago

lol did he seriously compare DRM to security guards?? DRM should never under any circumstances be considered a type of security, but rather an obstacle for the honest consumer to play the game

SilentNegotiator5048d ago (Edited 5048d ago )

I see what you're saying. But I was still going for "incompetent security"

I mean, it could stop a person who isn't smart enough to google a keygen or crack or whatever.

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TVippy5048d ago

They're turning down the refund requests left and right.

BlackKnight5049d ago

"The publisher stated that there would be no DRM with the game other than a one-time-activation. However this seems to have turned out to be a big fat lie as the inclusion of metapoint service Uplay demands DRM. Meaning the user would always have to be connected to the internet to log in to Ubisoft’s and play the game"

I haven't gotten Assassin's Creed 2 and Brotherhood specifically because of this BS. I LOVED AC1 but unlike some gamers, I really will forget a game series if it is SERIOUSLY ruined by DRM.

And no I haven't pirated, I am surprised how much I just don't care about the series now. Thanks Ubisoft.

ATi_Elite5048d ago (Edited 5048d ago )

Ubisoft---Once again proving they are the armpit of Gaming culture.

Steam----Once again proving they are the Gamers Champion and Friend.

Just buy Dust retail and apply Crack!!! which is pretty much standard operating procedure with all Ubisoft games!!

I just do not understand Ubisoft. Your using Steam so just go with Steam's DRM. But instead you lie and now people are pissed and will Pirate the game just to spite Ubisoft.

The more "always connected to Internet" connections applied the more chances of getting viruses cause games are so easy to manipulate!!

nanostar5048d ago

im pretty sure from dust is a digital only game so u cant even get it retail

hano5048d ago

Lucky you. I preordered the game. I hope I get the refund.

TVippy5048d ago

It's still selling on Steam though. o_O

Calm Down Sunshine5048d ago

Forget the DRM that it comes with, that doesn't bother me. The fact that the game crashes every single time on start-up however...

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pr0digyZA5049d ago

Was wrong of them to lie like that, glad steam is allowing the refunds.

ClimateKaren5049d ago

Way to go Steam! And shame on you Ubisoft. It was starting to look like they might be coming around to the realization of how offensive and inconvenient this type of thing is for gamers, but I guess not.

Get over yourself Ubisoft, before gamers get over you. Assassin's Creed is good, but no game is that good.

beastgamer5049d ago

I smell a lawsuit. I know ubisoft, or they would get revenge by going the EA way.

MRHARDON5049d ago (Edited 5049d ago )

I hope Ubisoft fails in the near future and gets closed down due to lack of money.

That will teach them!

buddymagoo5049d ago

No Assassins Creed! No thank you. I don't agree with their drm but to want the whole company to fail is madness.

JsonHenry5049d ago

They would just sell the rights off to someone else. Maybe even get lucky and Bethesda or Valve might buy the rights to the decent games.

John Kratos5048d ago

Yeah I don't want thousands of people to lose their jobs,just because you're angry over a decision that more likely than not the higher ups made.

AKissFromDaddy5049d ago

I understand why Steam members want all their games from Steam.

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Report: Inside Ubisoft's Project Renaissance, a Cancelled Minecraft-Like Voxel Game

In recent years, Ubisoft has canceled several games, one of them being a project code-named Renaissance.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney30d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher30d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic28d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC24d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC24d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney29d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee29d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers29d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12529d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers29d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro29d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300029d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14929d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300029d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall29d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic28d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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16 Ubisoft Titles Can Now Be Purchased on The Xbox PC Store

In a very intriguing and interesting move, 16 Ubisoft titles can now be purchased on the Xbox PC Store. Of course, this is a first as Ubisoft PC titles have never been purchasable on the Xbox PC Store previously.

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jznrpg29d ago

Servers are going to be bogged down by that 1 guy who will use this.

SimpleDad29d ago

Ahhh, the good old... Xbox PC store?
Who tf uses that?

Tacoboto29d ago

Kind of weird without them being updated to Xbox Play Anywhere purchases

MrDead29d ago

I uninstalled it as I was sick of the ads popping up on my login screen.