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PS3 Has Been 'Struggling' Against Xbox 360, Microsoft Not Likely to React to Price Drop

PS3 is now $249 (in case you didn't hear). The last time Sony dropped the price on its console was nearly two years ago when the Slim model was introduced. It immediately gave PS3 a momentum boost, and that's exactly what Sony needs against Microsoft now, since the Xbox 360 continues to outsell it in North America, according to analysts speaking with IndustryGamers.

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Sinner101GR4635d ago

Too bad I bought a PS3 a while ago. Just like....everyone else?

donniebaseball4635d ago

Well, there's still plenty of room for growth, and many consumers may find that $249 entry point to be a good value, especially if they want a good Blu-ray player too.

darthv724635d ago

then again donnie, there are stand alone players from sony and others at better prices. Consumers looking to get the ps3 for gaming more than likely got one when the slim came out.

At this price sony are doing the regular. Look at cost cutting to stimulate sales. If it was at 199 it would be the same thing. At some point the price of something is almost disposable. Meaning if it breaks then you arent out as much as if you bought it when it first came out.

I can see families who have one maybe picking up another to quell the kiddies. I have 2 360's for that reason. One for them one for me. They know not to touch my PS3. At this price I can afford to get them their own.

Price has a way of affecting one's perception of value. Those who bought it at $600 know its worth it. The people buying it at $250....not so much.

Biggest4635d ago

Why are you responding to a section of donniebaseball's comment? He said "especially if they want a good Blu-ray player TOO". There are zero BluRay players on the market that offer both movies and PS3 gaming aside from the PS3. The PS3 is a better value than ANY BluRay player at ANY price.

gamingdroid4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

***There are zero BluRay players on the market that offer both movies and PS3 gaming aside from the PS3. The PS3 is a better value than ANY BluRay player at ANY price.***

Not if you don't play games!

Gasp! I know what a shocker! :D

But yes, if you want a gaming and blu-ray, hands down there are no other options.

Washington-Capitals4635d ago

Im sorry, you obviously have no knowledge about bluray players. People who actually are movie/home theater fanatics would buy a higher end bluray player for the specialty audio and video features a ps3 or other lower-mid range players dont offer.

MaxXAttaxX4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

Whatever dudes
http://www.industrygamers.c...
2 mil is hardly a struggle. It's all PR talk.

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@ gamingdroid
""Not if you don't play games!
Gasp! I know what a shocker!""

What's the point of stating the obvious?
Both 'Biggest' and 'donnie' were talking about people wanting a gaming system AND Blu-ray player. Not just Blu-ray.

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NatureOfLogic4635d ago

WOW, someone predicted this in another article and 30 min later Boom.

newleaf4635d ago

Lol yeah I just read that too, I think it was nix

firemassacre4635d ago

hell yes sinner, im buying the 320gb infamous 2 bundle day 1. and "struggling" lol, how dumb, ps3 is top dog in ww sales.

SJPFTW4635d ago

learn to read. struggling in the North American market. just saying

skeletonss4635d ago

says the man with one bubble.

AAWELLS094635d ago

Where are you getting your info? According to this site. http://www.vgchartz.com/ In worldwide sales PS3 is behind Xbox360 not by much but it is with Wii in first.

Aggesan4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

@aawells07
Haha, u used vgcharts as reference!

phinch4635d ago

@ AAWELLS07

ps3 has been above the 360 in sales pretty since release of the slim ps3 (WW) yeah 360 has 3 million more sales overall, it also had a year head start, wont take long for the ps3 to overtake

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Anon19744635d ago

"PS3 Has Been 'Struggling' Against Xbox 360"

Shouldn't that read more along the lines of "It is no secret that the PlayStation 3 has been struggling for some time against the Microsoft Xbox 360 in North America" like the quote says?

Everyone knows the PS3 has handily outsold the 360 worldwide ever since it's been available worldwide. Why the flamebait headline? I'd expect more from IndustryGamers.

Anyway, I called it months ago. Gamescon, PS3 price drop. The only question was if it would be $50 or $100.

saladthieves4635d ago

It might have been struggling against Xbox 360, but NOTHING compared to how much struggle the Xbox 360 has been experiencing in places like Japan.

xabmol4635d ago

@Sinner

I literally just bought my PS3 a few weeks ago...

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L4634d ago (Edited 4634d ago )

...Please tell me that title is a joke because the PS3 has been doing anything but struggle.There's so many games coming out that I don't even know which ones to buy yet.

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fluffydelusions4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

For a site called industrygamers they sure don't sound like they know much about the industry. MS will drop the price, no question.

donniebaseball4635d ago

Umm...if you read it, it's not an opinion by IndustryGamers but comments from analysts about how MS will or won't react.

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jdfoster004635d ago

Have you seen patchers anylists about how MS will react?

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Zir04635d ago

MS has been dominating WW ever since Kinect and this price cut won't change that.

Im sure they will still cut price just for the final blow to the PS3/Wii before next gen.

Godchild10204635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

If they do they will either have to cut features, lose money on each console sold or charge more for live. That is my opinion and they might not have to do any of them.

I just think they need to drop the 250GB to 250 USD and they are good. I might be wrong but I don't see a price drop from them until next year. They have the Gears 360 and the Star wars 360 coming and they would have to drop the prices for those by a bit and I don't know if they would want to do that. Consumers would be happy but I don't know if Microsoft would be.

@DiRrY, Majority of that comes from revenue made from Xbox live members, purchases made from the marketplace and not solely from the console itself.

DiRtY4635d ago

The Xbox divison reported a 1.36 billion USD profit for the past 12 months. I think there is room to cu a price.

NukaCola4635d ago

PS3 has outsold 360 WW every year. Only in America the 360 holds any ground. This drop with pretty much close the gap. You ought to buy one. You may enjoy it.

solid warlord4635d ago

Not in England, in England XBOX 360 is winning and England is the second biggest gaming market in the world. Worth all europe combined. Top 10 games sold on consoles have been in XBOX 360.

JeffGUNZ4635d ago

Yeah you're missing the point. To a lot of the PS3 fanboys on this site, Japan is the world.

Zechs344635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

@Ziro

This guy...

Source. For anything. Please.

--Onilink--4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

lmao final blow??? since when are the PS3 or Wii dying that they are going to get a "FINAL BLOW". Funny how some things work out in the minds of little kids. The PS3 is doing just fine, the 360 is doing fine and the Wii outsold the competition by so much that Nintendo could struggle for like 5 years without anything new and they still wouldnt be close to a "final blow"

Information Minister4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

@ Ziro:

I know I'm feeding the troll, but I just have to ask... How exactly is Microsoft supposed to deal the "final blow" to the Wii, considering Nintendo's system has outsold the Xbox by over 30 million units worldwide?

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iamnsuperman4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

Title should read struggling against Microsoft in North America. The rest of the world it is doing better. It is really Microsoft who should be looking into gaining the Asian and European market. A price drop for them would be good. Just because things happen in America doesn't mean the rest of the world is the same. I would say it is likely for Microsoft to drop the 360 price.

NYC_Gamer4635d ago

They should give up on japan and focus on na\eu

TKCMuzzer4635d ago

It does not matter what Microsoft do. The price will only attract the casual gamer. If they want the rest they had better start making some games.

theonlylolking4635d ago

I know that my friends(even some that only have xbox) are getting gaming PC's because the xbox does not have enough games other than COD, halo and gears. They also are switching because of BF3

Inside_out4635d ago

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Sony should of had a price drop right after the hacking debacle that cripple them around the world and also shown them in a bad light.

M$ has packaged the Xbox 360 with a great PC promotion that is killing two or three birds with one stone. You get a PC, You get a 360 S, You get windows 7 and you cater to students who are/will make up the majority of your demographic. M$ sure does know how to get things done and that is why they have out sold Sony 13 out of the last 14 months.

Sony needs to bundle the PS3 with MW3 and offer some sort of timed exclusive content to encourage the gamers to take notice.

They have dropped the price because things are not going so well...that much is obvious.

cyborg69714635d ago

Bundle with MW3 why that POS game? Why not UC3?

jahcure4635d ago

so the ps3 outsells the xbox360 globally and you say that equates to "things not going so well"

care to explain this logic?

The only place that the 360 is outselling the ps3 is in the US and even with those numbers the overall picture still leans for the ps3 and now will be even more so since this price drop.

MysticStrummer4635d ago

Sometimes I think Inside_out's name and comments are actually clever satire, because more often than not his "facts" are ass backwards.

Godchild10204635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

The hacking didn't break the platform and it's still selling as well as it did before the Hacking if not better. Most people got to experience the best of the Single player that most, if not all Sony exclusives have.

Sony is doing the same with the Sony Vaio that does just as much, again if not more with the same Windows 7 OS. So, no difference there. Sony is getting things done as well and Microsoft sold well due to the price and the fact that students follow their friends that have the same thing. Look at COD. Now that the PS3 will end up in more homes due to the price drop, I think the tides will turn a bit.

I don't see Sony doing any more timed exclusives (I can be wrong), if it's not exclusive to their platform then give it to everyone at one time. I think MW3 and other games Bundle with the PS3 will sell consoles, but this price drop is great without a game.

Just look at what they have bundled now Infamous 2 with a month of plus free. We might see that with Uncharted and hell, The Last Guardian in Japan.

If things aren't/weren't going so well they would have dropped the price a while back and not today. They are on fire with great exclusives and the backing of all third party devs and publishers on all platforms they own.

TKCMuzzer4635d ago (Edited 4635d ago )

I am assuming your basing your somewhat strange logic on NA numbers. Sony seem to doing pretty well elsewhere.

Grab a map of the world, look at NA then move your eyes right....there it is, the world. Yes it's bigger than many realise. :/

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere13h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN10h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger10h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto12h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel11h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator10h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos13h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola8h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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