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Mark Rein: PS3 UT3 graphics better than Gears of War

PS3 UT3 has better graphics than Gears of War according to Mark Rein, Epic's vice president.

Speaking in an interview with Pro-G at the launch of the PC version of the game, Rein said that he was "really proud" of the PS3 game.

He said: "People are going to be pleasantly surprised. It's a really high end experience that pushes the graphics bar up even higher than Gears of War. There's more polygons, there's more stuff going on, there's more explosions and there's more things happening, so we're just really pleased with the way the game runs on the PS3."

Rein said that there is "something special" about playing UT3 on the PS3, and that while the speed of the game has been reduced by about 20%, "it feels just right to be playing it with a controller".

Violater6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

After playing COD4 none of these other games look good to me.
Edit: yea the dude with 3 bubbles is calling me retarded.

KINGDRAMA6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

I HAVe THE UT3 DEMO and COD4

UT3 is MUCH BETTER THAN COD4 MP/sound/gameplay/gfx/maps/veh icle/funfactorwise.

much better.
much much much better.
Im running it on a high end pc, if the ps3 version gfx R HALF as good as that it will sell millions.

GAMEPLAY AND AUDIO WILL EXCEL AS WELL

Sam Fisher6427d ago

Manhunt 2 got way better graphics then this

radzy6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

"about playing UT3 on the PS3, and that while the speed of the game has been reduced by about 20%"

a)i wonder why the speed had to be reduced by 20%???
b)maybe ps3 cant handle it at proper speed???
c)when 360 comes out , i think it will run at 100% speed , not 80% like ps3???
d)they had framerate issues and tearing when running higher than 80%.

Lionsguard6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

It's because not everyone is going to be playing it with a Mouse+keyboard which is supported retard. You expect them to put it at PC speeds? Good luck aiming.

TheXgamerLive6427d ago

It's a minimal difference and all sony fans should be proud that there even getting the game on this level.

COD 4 has some issues as we've seen as well, however minor it's still there and always will be.

Just be happy you still get a great game delayed though til next year.

Firewire6427d ago

Ok guys, just to state the obvious, Mark Rein has said in the past that both console versions will be slowed down to compensate for console controllers. Live with it! Anyone who is trying to make this into a console vs console bull crap is a complete moron! I'm looking at some of the above posters here!

I wonder when or if some of you will ever grow up & become mature posters on N4G. Because some of you look like complete idiots to those that try and have meaningful debates about games.

Lionsguard6427d ago

I'd love to play you UT3, me with a Keyboard+Mouse and you on a console controller and I will bet my left testicle that by the end of the day when the game crashed because it can't handle the huge number of my kills compared to your meager 1-2 kills due to my bathroom and nap breaks, you'll want to kill yourself over sheer frustration. You trying to spin this so your xbox will look better is futile. No game on PS3 or XBOX can run at PC UT3 speeds because it'd be impossible to play. Now pull your head out of Mr. Gate's ass and breathe the fresh air because the stench is getting to your brain cells.

tatical6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

@radzy & XGamer

Watch the video and be thankful that it was slowed down 20% (unless you're one of the few that'll use a keyboard & mouse). It wasn't slowed down because the PS3 is underpowered.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Lionsguard6427d ago

lol at Radzy and Xgamer probably disagreeing with me haha whatever noobs.

JsonHenry6427d ago

Umm... I can tell you that Gears on my PC looks better than the UT3 demo does.

UnasFortuna6426d ago

The article is talking about the differences between the PC version and the console version. There is no console out (not even the PS3) that can handle the speed of a gaming computer. Stop flapping your gums before you hurt yourself with that nonsense. Of course the console version is going to run a "little slower". 20%???? Not that big of a difference, but that is probably why there will not be any "inter-format" gaming (ie. online 360-PC-PS3) with this game. This game is going to be amazing and will put Gears to shame which IS my favorite so far on the 360.

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Sayai jin6427d ago

Good, I figure it would raise the bar as far s graphics. I can not wait to get it. A company should always improve. UT# has surpassed GOW as far as graphics and maybe gameplay, but I know GOW 2 will surpass UT3 the same when it is released next year.

Dpa6427d ago

GOW2 hasnt even been confirmed yet. Epic said they would like to make another gears game but its not definite.

G_CodeMonkey6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

You honestly think there is a chance they will NOT make GoW2? Wake up and smell the money--Epic has. GoW2 will be a money forest planted in their backyard. They're just waiting announcement to keep focus on their upcoming product (UT3). gCM

Bleucrunch6427d ago

Just bring Gears of War2 to the ps3 and then we can where it can truly go.

ElementX6427d ago

Gears of War game out a year ago. I hope the graphics would be better. Another stupid comment.....

THE_JUDGE6427d ago

Its been a year so they should have stepped their graphics game up. I can't wait to try the game, I hope it comes out this year. And I'm getting pretty sick of everyone comparing games to Gears, there are plenty of superior graphic games out now.

Wii60_FTW6426d ago

I played the UT3 demo on PC maxed-out. Looked crap to me. Gears still looks better. UT3 will NOT look better. And I was really expecting it to.

scrillakiller6427d ago

xbots said ps3 couldnt do gears of war.newsflash ps3 is the strongest console out

Bladestar6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

UT3 is not gears.. did you know that. Gears of war influenced the design of the xbox 360 in terms of graphics... you don't remember EPIC branging how they made Microsoft spend 1 billion dollards if they wanted the xbox 360 to run gears... Gears take advantage of the xbox 360 unified memory... havent you seen enough failures by 3rd party developers to just port games to the PS3 from the xbox 360?
What make you think gears can just be ported?
Gears would have to be created from the ground up... coded for the PS3... which means (in case you don't understand) not be the same game in it's current form.

Also, just because COD was released on mobile phones no one can't say... "ohh look... who needs a PS3 or xbox 360... I have it on my cell phone.". Gears on the PS3.. we will never know if it can just be ported.

rofldings6427d ago

It runs on the same engine ... did you know that?

Sam Fisher6427d ago

engine is how it works smoothly and well by gameplay with framerate... hes talking bout the graphical department

Skerj6427d ago

UH the engine allows the graphics to be of that calibre, you didn't see Gears on the engine that ran UT2k3 and 4 did you?

Bladestar6427d ago

are you talking about the same game engine lots of developers are having problems to run on the PS3? It's obvious that the engine had lots of improvements and optimization since gears came out. Why else did you think EPIC was so eager to make a game for the PS3?
When it was said that gears couldn't be done for the PS3 maybe at that time it was not possible since the Unreal engine was not able to.
maybe things changed.... but one thing is sure... UT can be done on the 360...

unlimited6427d ago

of course gear of war can run on the 360 xbots got owned!!

Skerj6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

UT was always coming to PS3, that was said before Gears was even out. No one is disputing whether or not UT3 can be done on 360, we all know it can be as the engine has ran quite well on the system in the various games that use it. The PS3 however did have issues which has been stated as being fixed due to Sony actually being proactive with developers now. That said, personally I do believe Gears can very well be done on the PS3. Will we see it? No, MS owns the IP but the graphic intensive part is done and let's be honest the gameplay wasn't that deep. Kill.Switch pulled that off last gen.

Instead of these petty ass fanboy squabbles from both sides, worry about if the games are actually going to be good. I mean that's what people are fighting over right? I've seen a lot of mediocre crap made with this engine and I've seen a few gems. Same thing happened with the last 2 incarnations though which shows that it's going to take more than licensing a high profile engine to make a good game.

See you all on Deck 16.

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fredy6427d ago (Edited 6427d ago )

I would hope that it is given extra year and updated Engine..

But will the difference really be noticed when the 360 UT3 co mes out well we will see..

is UT3 close quarter combat like Gears was? it looks like the maps are larger and supprt more players.

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Gears Of War Creator Urges Devs To Make Single-Player Games Amid EA's Live Service Focus

Gears of War's creator has spoken out against the trend of turning established franchises into live services, urging developers to focus on single-player experiences.

Relientk77128d ago

I agree with Cliff for once.

Single player games > GaaS

JEECE128d ago

Too bad he didn't have this opinion when he chased trends with Lawbreakers. Or when he chased trends with Radical Heights.

Popsicle128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

He learned from the mistake or he wouldn’t be advocating for more single player experiences. I find this refreshing in a world where we often see people so stubborn that they tend to double down on a mistake which results in making things even worse. Seriously, good for him!

JEECE127d ago

@Popsicle

Oh for sure, better late than never. And better to somewhat own up to your mistakes, rather than just blaming your release window, or advertising partners, or gamers lol.

anast127d ago

@Popsicle

Of course we will never know his intentions, but it's hard to believe he is just a naive agent that is learning from his mistakes.

-Foxtrot128d ago

He could have done one himself after Gears of War but he did Lawbreakers…look how that turned out.

RaidenBlack128d ago

Not converting Jawbreakers into F2P was the final nail in the CliffyB coffin.

Knushwood Butt127d ago

Jawbreakers would have been a better name! Heck, I might just go and trademark that right now.

BISHOP-BRASIL127d ago

@Knushwood

Aren't those a kind of candy already?

coolbeans128d ago

You're missing the point. His studio's short lifespan is what *inspired* him to make this comment in the first place.

-Foxtrot128d ago

Oh I know the point...I'm just stating the obvious and how stupid he was in the beginning to jump on a trend he had no real experience in. A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War.

He'd have been better creating something like Gears of War again, a great single player story and a good online mode.

coolbeans128d ago

-"A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War."

I mean... you're kinda muddying terms when Gears has always had a strong multiplayer component. Even if I grant you that, Cliffy B started cementing himself at Epic with Unreal Tournament, which was among the earliest shooter series to have "proto-GaaS elements" (downloadable maps, cosmetics, special editions that bundle stuff together). Lawbreakers and Radical Heights (were it finished) weren't major career shifts to him like they would be for, say, Fumito Ueda.

Regardless of that, it's still kinda useless to state the obvious when CliffyB himself made his comments with the benefit of hindsight already.

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CrimsonWing69128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

Look, these a-hole publishers can do this, in fact I want them to, so they can f*ck around and find out and fail hard scaring away everyone else from doing this live service push.

This industry is run by some of the dumbest corporate pieces of sh*t I’ve ever seen. They spend stupid amount of money with literally nothing that stands out from games from the previous generation (look at Arkham Knight to the $200 mill Suicide Squad comparison vids), you’re overpaying devs, and you focus on games as a service to milk consumers that a lot of them grew up off traditional games. We’re not idiots, we sniff this sh*t out and won’t touch it.

So, what’s your answer to not getting a ROI? Raise game prices and double down on GaaS so you can suck your consumers dry. That model only works for some games and even then how in hell do you expect it to work with multiple games!? They’re ruining the damn hobby with this corporate greed.

Cut back on dev budgets, cut back on how much your staff is getting paid, until sales for games bring in a profit. That’s the answer and make some games that feel like there’s passion behind them, not some cookie cut up game that feels like the entire existence behind it is to offer as little as it can with repetitive bullsh*t and selling off all this content throughout its life. It’s gross.

anast127d ago

I agree with every point here.

Redemption-64127d ago

Games do bring in a profit, it's the greed that is killing the industry. Here is a fact, live service games overall make more, significantly more money than single player games

What you should be asking is executives not wanting continuous growth or firing them. Saying devs should be fired when those who are fitting the bills and setting unrealistic expectations would make things worse. What do y9u think would happen if they released say, 30 single player games and over half of them fail? You are going after the wrong crowd.

DankSinatra128d ago

About time he learned. I guess he finally stopped blaming everyone else and took accountability for his mistakes and realized that people really don't care that much for trends or live service.

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Report: Gears of War Trilogy Collection Will Be Multiplatform and Available on PS5 Day One

A new rumor suggests that the Gears of War Trilogy Collection is real, with it launching on the PS5 day one with Xbox and PC.

LG_Fox_Brazil134d ago

Yeah, I can totally see that happening. My only doubt is if they are going to announce that at the same time as the Hallo Collection or if they will try to distance both announcements to try to ease the pain

helicoptergirl133d ago

This same insider was correct about Forza Horizon 5. So this might be true. But I heard rumors are the Halo:MCC is the next big one to be announced. We'll see I guess

DefenderOfDoom2133d ago

I am hoping Halo:MCC comes to PlayStation .

Cacabunga133d ago

Someone check on Obscure Observer please

piroh133d ago

They should announce dedicated showcase for all Playstation ports, it would be less painful for their fanbase.

Anyway thank you Team Xbox and Phil i will support the games.

Profchaos133d ago

Phil should wear a crash t shirt to that

Profchaos133d ago

I see them being in the same year but halo coming alongside ns2 and if e day is early next year gears collection could come at Christmas time

The_Blue133d ago

Ease the pain? You do know these people won't even entertain us irl, ironic 😭

1Victor133d ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOO screamed an obscured observer from across the room the street.
Well I’ll check it out DAY 1 🤣 I hope the do a good job porting it and don’t have issues like MCC did when it first launched on s/x🤷🏿

Mr_cheese133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

This will be cool

TheEroica133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

Ease the pain? Pain for who? Lol. More games on more platforms is a gamer friendly approach. Locking games behind hardware is archaic and lame... Let's not turn into corporate stooges.

TheEroica132d ago

4 corporate suits voted me down. Shame. Pro gamer all the way.

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Lightning77134d ago

I remember talking about this with someone on the forums and they made some good points. Like what exactly are these old games doing at the moment? They pushed the hardware and did everything they needed to do for that platform at the time. Now in MS case even their new games are gonna be day and date but if we're taking about old games. Those games are just sitting their not doing anything anymore. When you port the old stuff to another console, that game has life again and move few more units and a new audience.

As I said Xbox is different because their stuff is inching closer and closer to be day and date. Though both Xbox and PS have old games that are just sitting around when they could have new audiences and breathe new life into the older exclusives.

Terry_B133d ago

Just imagine how well collections of older Nintendo games would sell on pc, xbox and playstation...

NotoriousWhiz133d ago

I honestly don't expect Nintendo to gain much from releasing their games on 3rd party consoles. People are conditioned to buy Nintendo games on Nintendo hardware. Once that changes, Nintendo will probably lose out on revenue as people pass on their underpowered console to wait for their game to release on a superior console. Tons of people only have a Switch for exclusives, and those exclusives sell better than most games on the other platforms and Nintendo is able to pocket the bulk of that revenue since it is their game on their console.

Profchaos133d ago

Not very considering rom packs have been eaily accessible for years now it's only really GameCube and above you need to pick and choose because the game size is fairly large and the Wii IMO didn't emulate well considering the motion controls.

So as incredible as they are I doubt they would sell unless they are overhauling them somehow but then again I wouldn't want to see them overhauled but that's just me I still play the NES version of Mario 3 over the SNES all stars version as a example because I think it looks better.

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Sonic1881133d ago

All you had to say was Microsoft is a third party publisher now

Lightning77133d ago

Huh? They clearly are what are you trying to get at?

rlow1133d ago

That still makes and releases a console…..which knocks them out of the third party club…..nice try

Sonic1881133d ago

@rlow1

A third-party publisher that still releases a console? Sure, whatever makes you sleep at night. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what they're trying to do.

generic-user-name133d ago

The Series X/S backwards compatibility to their old classics was one of the last few selling points for those consoles.

RaidenBlack134d ago

Finally Gears 2 & 3 coming to PC !

neutralgamer1992133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

Exactly I also hope we get a fable collection since fable 2 never came to Pc

I hope we also get gears of war 4 on Pc too since only gears 5 is on steam along with tactics

ninjabutt13133d ago

Gears 4 is already on pc, maybe not in steam but its in xbox app

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isarai134d ago

Where's the goalposts gonna go now? 😀🫳🍿

helicoptergirl133d ago

Get an obscure person to bend over and then I'll show you :)

Chevalier133d ago

They're too busy crying in a corner and being served crow again though. Pretty sure everything is going to voicemail.

goken133d ago

@helicoptergirl
Normally with articles like this the person you mentioned is usually obscured from observation 🤣

Profchaos133d ago

Revenue same as always Microsoft don't care about community it's reputation and they've never been worried about losing loyal customers if you recall the Kinect era they abandoned the hardcore entirely to pursue the hardcore gamers grandma

Outside_ofthe_Box133d ago

"Where's the goalposts gonna go now?"

"It's just old games sitting around doing nothing! Might as well get money from it and a new audience you can use to potentially make it exclusive again for next gen for them to be enticed to jump ship!"

~New goalpost

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Outside_ofthe_Box133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

"Eventually Sony will likely be forced to do the same"

Is that you begging for games that you once bashed in the past? Too funny, things must be dry in your land.

Chevalier133d ago

"aren’t selling as much as Xbox - and the answer will be that they are on less platforms."

No they won't because Xbox doesn't announce sales numbers at all. So how would they compare these sales? What idiotic logic. These shareholders going to pull numbers out their backside?!

thorstein133d ago

Why doesn't he just use the one account. How many N4G tabs does he have open with different accounts?

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neutralgamer1992133d ago

Why do you need goalposts? More gamers will get to play games. Phil said it few days ago again no game has any red line around it. Seriously man it's gaming and your choice of plastic box makes no difference

It's 2025 enjoy gaming on any platform. We should be celebrating how the Biggest gaming publisher is allowing their games to be played on all platforms but how can we get that when some people feel the need to take victory laps

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Chevalier133d ago

Well hate to say we told you so. But we called this happening as soon as we saw these big purchases and falling sales, but, a whole slew of people said this would NEVER happen. Goalpost keep moving too as if it's some weird flex.

thorstein133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

TBH, Forza, the Indiana Jones game, the next Elder Scrolls, and I hope Fable will make it over. I'm excited about those.

I don't think MS going the Sega route would be a bad thing. Nintendo and Sony are making good hardware. There's no reason to not make profit off of that.

But the goalposts moving is in reference to people who constantly approve and post disingenuous stories that they scream are true.

For instance, "you can build a comparable PC to a PS pro for $700," conveniently leaving off the OS. Or, "Sony delisted HD2 in 170 countries" when in reality, it was 170 regions of which SteamDB lists as having over 3000 regions.

neutralgamer1992133d ago

Chevalier

What is this with we. Yes most of us saw this coming and all I am saying is it's a great thing for gamers on all platforms. We should be celebrating the fact amazing games will be available to all of us instead of taking some victory lap because of a plastic box

Chevalier131d ago

"What is this with we. Yes most of us saw this coming and all I am saying is it's a great thing for gamers on all platforms. We should be celebrating the fact amazing games will be available to all of us instead of taking some victory lap because of a plastic box"

Cool and it should be celebrated. But this idiotic narrative is that it was done for us as consumers needs to die.

Lots of idiots trying to reframe this when they literally argued that this would NEVER happen when we said yes it will because Gamepass isn't profitable and sales losses all round and add in lower hardware sales and it was obvious

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1Victor133d ago

@isarai: “ Where's the goalposts gonna go now? 😀🫳🍿”
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The goal post is going home crawl into the shower open the flow and start crying while rocking back and forward i obscured by the darkness of the room.

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helicoptergirl133d ago

I haven't played any oif these games either. Will buy and go through the campgains for sure. They a co-op correct? Hope so

Yui_Suzumiya132d ago

They're amazing. If you ever played Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine then you already have an idea how they play.

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Rumored Gears of War Collection is at the top of my 2024 Xbox wishlist

As the long-rumored Gears of War Collection looks like it may finally materialize on Xbox, the timing could not be better as Gears 6 and movie news swirls.

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1Victor515d ago (Edited 515d ago )

(Insert “It should be multi platform if Microsoft investors wants more money” JK here)
All jokes aside congratulations to all the gears fans it will be a blast I remember having fun on the first one on my 360 elite till got RROD and quit Xbox all together but that’s a story for another day.
Congratulations 🎊 🍾 🎉 🎈 🎉 🙏

Wyesvin515d ago

I'm excited for this just aslong is on the pc also cause I don't have the newest xbox console.

shinoff2183515d ago

I enjoyed the tactical one. I can't remember the actual name but it was fun.