Vizio 65-inch Razor 3D TV Slices Through the Competition for 3D Gaming

When it comes to upgrading to a 3D home entertainment center for your gaming room, the new Vizio 65-inch Theater 3D Razor LED LCD HDTV is the way to go. In fact, a leading Sony game developer who’s tested all the 3D TVs on the market with their bestselling 3D game franchise said this Vizio is the one to buy. The 3D TV employs passive 3D technology, which means you can use the same glasses you wear at the movie theater. The co-founder of the company talks about this new 3D TV in this exclusive video interview from CE Week in New York below.

[just_looken]

still no japan glassless tv's.

[deadpoole]

I would buy this baby like right now .... too bad its not available in UK. Always wanted the passive 3D tele ... 65inch is awesome size for 3D gaming.

@iNFAMOUZ1
Dude ... Jessica Chobot is one hot mamaa. :))

[ATiElite]

but Sara Underwood is way hotter!

[deadpoole]

^^^^^

No doubt in that ... she got the assets.

[TheDivine]

They sell a 47in passive 3d tv for 850ish. Very good qulaity and price. The 47in with internet apps is 950. 3d is cheap now. 3d projectors are where its at though.

[nveenio]

I'll never buy a Vizio. The upscaler in those TVs is crap.

[SilentNegotiator]

Slices nothing. Vizio is the crappiest TV brand I've ever encountered.

It's the kind that people are always buying for their small businesses because they're cheap.

[jeseth]

You pay for what you get. You can't beat high end Samsung and Sony picture quality.

Vizio is cheap for a reason . . . its cheap.

[CommonCent]

@jeseth too bad Samsung LCD/LED suck for gaming with their horrific input lag.

[bozebo]

"too bad Samsung LCD/LED suck for gaming with their horrific input lag."

Turn on gaming mode...

[nveenio]

I've got a Samsung Plasma in my bedroom (I hate the picture that Plasma offers, btw), and I game on it exclusively. I don't turn on "gaming mode", and I have absolutely no trouble at all. So maybe it's not the brand but a specific model instead?

[deadpoole]

I got Samsung 40inch LCD screen ... totally amazing with minimal lag ...
The only and I mean to say only thing I dont like is the Dynamic setting and DNIe on with my model. Literally crushes black.

However Ive calibrated to perfect level with no black crush and awesome popup images feelin when you watch bluray on PS3.

[Bigpappy]

I can't believe people are slaming on Vizio because they keep their prizes low. I have to of them and a Sony. They are equal in quality, eventhough I paid much less for the ViZio. If you go feature by feature with the same quality, Vizio will more times than not beat any TV on the market.

It is a great TV for anyone who isn't a band loyalist.

[thedisagreefairy]

vizio is a horrible brand. i worked at ultimate electronics and best buy and those tv's are horrible compared to other brands like sony, samsung, panasonic, and toshiba. cheap ass tvs that prove u get what u pay for.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

Wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[deadpoole]

You know the ultimate thing Im actually waiting for ... LED 1080p 3D Projector 2000+ lumens.

The day they'll release this .... Ill be the first one to buy. Hopefully Optoma, Samsung or LG.

[ZBlacktt]

Toshiba and IBM both use the Cell found in the PS3. Just saying, lol. :D

[Perjoss]

I wonder what the view angle is like on those glasses free TVs. Is it like a 3DS where you need to be looking at it from a pretty direct angle or it will not work...

[BeastlyRig]

LG is shipping it's first glassless 3d pc monitors this year so I would thing 3d monitors and tv's would be more popular in 2012..

I would wait for thoughs.. to get cheap..

[Bolts]

For real? Do want! But how would this monitor work with Nvidia's 3D solutions? I wish the PC industry would get thier act together in the regards to 3D, it's a mess.

[Thecraft1989]

The tech is simply unready. Viewing angle is terrible for one. The 3d dose not compete with current offering quality wise and and just the general effect.

I've seen demo's of Sony 3d glasses tech. On large screens.

It will be the next step but not for a long.

[Klaykid123]

I seriously don't mind glasses. I prefer glasses over glassless. 3DS has WEAK and I mean WEAK 3D effects.

[SilentNegotiator]

If there's a brand out there that competes with Vizio in the god-forsaken, cheap, crappy products department, it's LG.

[jeseth]

@ Silent.

Finally. Someone else that isn't on LGs C*&#! LG is super over rated. Their TVs are wanna be Samsungs, their washer/dryers break all day long, and people just love LG.

[ViserysTargaryen]

Vizio displays are actually quite decent with tech that can match up with Samsung and Sony offerings for less.

I don't see why people gotta hate.

[jeseth]

People hate because people say its on par with and/or better than industry leaders.

Saying you get good bang for your buck is one thing. . .saying Vizio is on the same level as industry leaders and innovators is the catalyst to the "hate".

Vizio is ok. Middle of the road. Period. A bang for your buck product. Like a Hyundai. Its nice, but it isn't an Infinity. So don't call it one.

[bozebo]

Glassless can only work (ANY type of glassless that can ever be made by mankind at any point in the future) for a specific location in relation to the screen.

That is why it is possible for a monitor, and for the 3DS. It would be really impractical for a TV because they are designed with the assumption of multiple concurrent users.

[kamakaz3md]

toshiba is workin on that, maybe end of year or 2012 for sure

[cannon8800]

I bought a 50 inch 720p samsung 3d tv with two glasses and a copy of black ops for under 1K! If anyone's interested on the tv its a samsung pn50c490b. My tv has great image quality!

[ViserysTargaryen]

Ewww...720p.

[cannon8800]

yeah you might think that the image quality sucks but it actually doesn't. There's no other 3d tv out there that even comes close I think for the price, size and deal that they're offering for it.

[JsonHenry]

My father just purchased a 55 inch Vizio (TruLed, internet widgets, 480hz 3D) and it looks really good. So much so that I am thinking of buying one myself and replace my Sony. (my Sony is good, but only 60hz) The best part is that the Vizio supports 3 different types of 3D and has HDMI 1.4a meaning it **should** work with Nvidia 3D vision and it will most certainly work with AMD/ATI cards.

[50Terabytespersec]

great for PC gamers and 1080p content but for Blu ray ,prepare to sit far back thus reducing your Screen Real estate effectively making it a small screen..
I will wait for 4k TV so i can actually situp close and be taken away in sheer awe at dense pixels and sharp eye poping clarity (not noise and blocks etc with 1080p large screens up close..BS..
Stick with 37" for now 1080p is on its last legs..

[paladinaz]

Vizio - cheap quality, but for a really good price.

[LOGICWINS]

No not really. My friends Vizio LCD blows away my Sony Bravia in colors and overall picture quality.

[Coffin87]

Then chances are pretty high your settings are somehow wrong.. in like 95% of all cases lower-priced technology equals lower quality.
Sometimes that's ok, but that's the customer's choice.

[jeseth]

Bottom line is people always defend what they buy like its as good or a better value.

Kind of like all the suckers that bought DLP TVs. LMAO. Every person I know that bought a DLP had their set die within 3 years.

I still have my original Bravia 46" XBR I bought 5 years ago in my game room. Never had an issue and the picture quality is still very good. I just bought a KDL-55HX800 240hz 3D LED Bravia in February and that TV is the Tits. It refreshes so fast my eyes bug out when the motion flow is set on high. But sports and Blu Ray look absolutely breathtaking.

High end Samsung and Sony can't be touched for picture, style, quality, and features.

[LOGICWINS]

"Bottom line is people always defend what they buy like its as good or a better value."

I don't know why people are like that. Human nature perhaps. I'll happily admit when another person pwns my setup lol.

[jeseth]

Me too. My Tv is really nice but I know there are better sets out there.

You pay for what you get. Can't say it enough. If you are buying a 55" Vizio or Mitsubishi for 1K then guess what it probably has a 60hz refresh rate and a crap contrast ratio, etc. . . . the 46" TV at the same price point has the better picture.

People just have a hard time admitting stuff like that.

[jetlian]

to say you yourself aren't justifying what you bought? lol

Fact is better is all subjective. some people are color blind so color isn't a factor. some looking at games where lag is more important.

The you get what you pay for isn't true in most cases. 250 dollars for jordans is it better than payless shoes?! no both made in china

most tvs are made in the same plants with slight changes if any.

EDIT: lol funny thing is the same people think 600 dollars console magically has better games over a 400 dollar and have been proven wrong to many times to count

BUT you got what you paid for lol

[STICKzophrenic]

@jeseth

"Kind of like all the suckers that bought DLP TVs. LMAO. Every person I know that bought a DLP had their set die within 3 years."

Samsung 61" DLP owner here for more than four years without any problems.

*knock on wood*

Haha.

[NeoTribe]

Ive had a vizio 1080p tv for 5 years now and the picture is flawless. There not cheap quaity, ur just not paying for the name.

[ambientFLIER]

I've had a Vizio 42in 720P plasma for 3 years and it's been excellent.

[bozebo]

I love the way hardly anybody on N4G has even the slightest understanding of how the TV and PC monitor industry works >_<

Only a few companies actually make the screen panels: Samsung do, I think LG do too - and Dell make monitor panels also. The panels of the same size/tech are made in individual batched but they are not all identical. The panels are tested and separated into divisions of quality, even dead pixel count (don't ever buy a budget brand, ever). Companies like Panasonic (just one example, but this applies to most brands) buy the graded panels off the manufacturer companies because they don't have the trillions required to set up, update and maintain their own production line. They may be buying cherry picked high quality ones, lemons, or anything in between.

Brands don't really count for anything, if you actually care about screen quality. Also, 2 TVs or monitors of the exact same make and model can have different quality panels - for some strange reason it is legal for them to do that. So they start off with high quality batches then start botching junk panels onto them once the marketing campaign has been a success (like some kind of strange loss-leader marketing, they make a loss from the high quality batches near the start of retail).

i.e. stop arguing about brands, if you are choosing a TV - go into a shop and request the one you physically laid eyes on (because i'll bet that's the high quality one). If you are in the UK or EU, buy online or through mail order so you can return it with distance selling laws if they throw you a dead pixel or crappy panel set.

The brand literally means nothing at all most of the time. The individual screen that you have infront of you is what matters.

[Soldierone]

You lost me at Vizio...Their prices are so very tempting at times, but you get what you pay for.

As for this, I wonder when the articles will start rolling "theaters Not Lack of Recycled Glasses" haha Everyone taking them home so they can watch 3D. :P

[Cerberus29]

I thought the same thing at first, but then my brother got the 42" vizio 3d LCD, and I gotta say I was actually pretty impressed. Especially for the price.

We also went and saw transformers in 3d and all kept our glasses lol

[aGameDeveloper]

Remember back when "Made in Japan" meant "cheap" to many Americans? Now, Japanese automobiles and electronics tend to be more reliable. The same may likely be/become true of Korean products.

[Thecraft1989]

if you got the room and the money for 1 grand more you can get the jvc x3 3d projector. I've got mine set up with an 150'' screen. Its like having an miniature cinema in my living room.

[Sarobi]

I love Vizio HDTV's but i have never actually seen a 3DTV by them in person

[jetlian]

getting there 42in 670 dollar one sometime this week. Saw it at walmart and it seem pretty big. 3d wasn't on though.

thats why if your trying new tech just buy cheap first time around. I could get the 32 for under 500 but even if 3d does suck the 1080p 120hz still looks awesome and i'm only out 200 for the 3d

edit: i'm getting it from amazon since no taxes walmart was like 750.

[TronEOL]

But you see, the problem with this logic is that you're basing your thoughts on new technology with the cheap version.

It's like buying a low-class Mitsubishi Lancer Evo to test out it's max speed as opposed to buying it the way it was made to be in it's racing form.

So my personal opinion is to avoid 3D all together unless you plan on spending money. Same goes for any new tech. There may be some very lucky cases where the cheaper version is on par with the more expensive choice, but DO NOT believe that will be the same case most of the time.

Not to mention you shouldn't be buying something you're unsure about anyways. If you have that feeling for anything, you probably shouldn't buy it.

[jetlian]

which cost 15+ Gs i'm testing out an still you never know if its a lemon! I probably could have asked them to turn on 3d but I was in a hurry.

And 200 dollars won't kill me. Active shutters is a total no go. Passive sometimes makes me sick. But after seeing transformers 3 (imax) and watching more 3d (red/blue) my eyes getting better at it.

Uncharted 3 the real reason and l have blops,crysis2, and socom 4.

I got the wii mainly for those naruto fighting games. If I want to try something l'll take a chance

[TBONEJF]

i'M DROOLING ALL OVER THEIR 65" LED 3D TV. We have a 42" 120hz LCD Vizio, have no problems with the TV what so ever. and I play my PS3 on it VERY SWEET PICTURE while playing my Metal Gear Solid on it. Just wish my room was big enough for A 65" kinda sucks though I'm stuck with my crappy old LCD Magnavox 26" LCD TV.

[ZBlacktt]

The glare on that TV was awful! You could see the guy filming even. I have a 63" Samsung Plamas that works very well.

[Baka-akaB]

Careful guys , Vizio might looks awesome and perfect , but when you've got issues and malfunctions , it's a heck of a pain . Especially with remote dying after a few months , or screens freezing for no obvious reasons .

This one might be different however , since not exactly cheap

[Giru017]

"Vizio 65-inch Razor 3D TV Slices Through the Competition for 3D Gaming"
DAT PUN

[ElementX]

I've heard that Vizio makes a pretty good TV.

[Patrick]

I have this TV and its fantastic. Very high quality, great picture, 3D is outstanding, and gaming on it gives you a lot of immersion. Killzone 3 is great in 3D and even better with the Sharpshooter/Move. Cant wait for Bioshock Infinate, Resistance 3, and even Socom 4... I havent bought that one yet. Motorstorm Apocalypse is really nice in 3D as well.

For those who say Vizio is cheap quality... not anymore they arent, starting out that may have been true and it helped them gain a foot hold in the industry as being such, but now their products are made just as well as the others. They may not be your company of choice (they werent mine at first) but dont knock them just cause Walmart sells them and other higher priced stores dont. I did alot of research before buying this beast, and I do not regret my decision one bit. Not saying run out and buy it based on anyones word, Im simply saying actually TRY it before you dismiss it. Awesome.

[Baka-akaB]

it still depends on the model . I wouldnt trust the cheapest model , nor should everyone automically trust the really cheap ones from the "legacy brands" .

Things arent perfect for that screen neither , the passive 3d mode is a first , and as such still needs works , with many artifacts and flickers .

[Patrick]

I've noticed no artifacts, and it doesnt flicker at all.. in fact that was a major turn off for the Active 3D cause it does flicker, or shutter. No tv is perfect and anyone who claims other wise is either lying or doesn't know the true meaning of the word "Perfect"
The TV is well built and high quality though. Is the 3D full high def, No, it is not. Can you notice it unless your standing 3 feet or closer to it? No you can not... and if you have to be 3 feet from the screen to see a 65 inch tv... you have bigger problems than your 3D not being in full HD.

[Baka-akaB]

Calm down , i'm not saying the tv isnt good . it's hardly the bad picture painted by some , but it's hardly perfect , again as we would both agree . The guys from cnet i see are moaning about 2d display , but hardly offer a precise analysis so far. so i'd disregard it , nor is cnet any great at judging a tv's value .
They even make it sounds as if some processing effects arent usually a problem on most current screens , bare a few .

There is still a noticeable and already extensively documented difference of quality between its passive 3d and active 3d . It will be up to each user to try it for themselves .

And no you dont need to be up close to notice problems like artefacts . It's there but up to each to care or not much about it .

[Patrick]

Oh Im very calm, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this particular topic as now its getting down to active 3D verses passive and there are fanboys on both sides. There are advantages from both. I weighed each out (was going to buy active) and came out leaning more toward passive after researching and witnessing both. The pros for active to me were not near good enough to warrant the extra cost and the cons of active far outweighed them. So I went the way I did and do not regret it. Plus I found out just in the past few weeks I can make it do the 2 player full screen split screen thing with very little trouble which was a huge plus for me and my family as we play alot of coop and I usually cheat by using their screen to tell me where they are... lol.. so actually thats bad for me, but I love it cause its a bigger challenge. I respect your opinion and appreciate you respecting mine cause at the end, they are all just opinions. Thanks for the debate though, have a bubble on me.

@phantasm
The blacks are black and the avsforum have several on there that bought the Vizio and love it and swear by it. again, they are all and I mean all opinions. Keep trying if it makes you feel better. I'm done with this, I just want people to try each for themselves and not listen to critics opinions which they call reviews.

[Phantasm]

Here is the less than steller review from Cnet. (3/5 stars)

http://reviews.cnet.com/fla...

No thanks.

[Patrick]

I don't let critics do my thinking for me, unless they are buying my TV (products) for me. I work hard for my money and no body else's opinion is going to help me spend it. Others might benefit from this philosophy.

[Phantasm]

When it comes to film and games, I decide for myself.

Cnet is a pretty reputable site, so when they say the blacks on this Vizio set are not all that good, I believe them. Also, this set is an edge lit Vizio... not a very good combo.

It's fully back lit LED sets from LG or the mid to upper end Panasonic plasma sets for me.

[Patrick]

I judged for myself (dont care for cnet) and the blacks while not perfect (look up perfect) are BLACK, Im looking at it as we speak, Cnet is so full of it, they also said the 2d is not good.. but guess what... its great. Try it yourself and dont listen to critics who most always have agenda's and favorites.

[Baka-akaB]

I have to disagree with cnet too . the black level in the XVT3D650SV is unimpressive , but the picture quality is decent enough , at least as judged from other reputable sources .
Shadow details are superb despite the relative brightness, blooming effect is barely discernible, and both primary and secondary colors are correctly rendered .

I stills tand by the opinion that its passive 3d isnt as good as active (for starters the maximum resolution that each eye get at any time is merely half the TV’s declared 1080p resolution) ... but at least passive 3d got far less crosstalk effect for those who cares .

[Phantasm]

Like I said, it's edge lit... better sets are out there.

I already know what perfect means, and live by it. - "Nothing is perfect, only perfect intentions." (example Pioneer Kuro $$$) But I do want something close to black, not grey. This is why I've been going with plasma for the past several years.

It's not just Cnet. I visit avsforum.com, and read what all the boarders have to say about their own experiences.

Lastly, I visit Fry's Electronics and Bestbuy for the visual aspect.

Right when I walk into a Bestbuy, I can tell from a distance which are Plasma and which are LCD/LED. They have the damn energy mode set to the on position of the plasma sets. So I flip the mode to the off position, and then tweak the picture from there. I hope I piss Bestbuy off.

[lashes2ashes]

not worth getting if its not active shutter 3d glasses. cinema 3d cuts the resolution in half.

[HungPHATx]

Nah ! I'll stay with my Sony 52" XBR LX900 ! Thank you

[Cyb3r]

What does this Vizio 3D TV do that my 3D Panasonic Plasma cant?

[snowman2149]

Passive 3D is not as good as active shutter 3D. When watching/playing something in passive 3D, the image is interlaced & divided by 4, instead of divided by 2 and left as a progressive image when using an active shutter 3DTV.

[NeoTribe]

3d is a fad that will die hard. Dont waste ur money on this 3d bullshit.

[whydoyouask]

Why would people want to spend $2500 on this?

[jdktech2010]

I just bought a 51" 1080p Samsung 3D plasma (that's a mouthful) for 1000 bucks. I've never bought a plasma nad won't set it up until tomorrow but I've always viewed Vizio as the Kia brand of TVs....They make decent TVs but there's a reason they are cheaper. My parents bought a 26" Vizio a couple weeks ago and I just got a chance to see it and the sound is very tinny (if that's a word) and kinda turned me off to Vizio.

Some people love them and some people hate them. I'll just stick with Samsung as they haven't done wrong by me yet

[BLAKHOODe]

$3500? Is that all?

Just a second while I pull that out of my over-stuffed wallet. Oh darn, I must have left my wallet in my helicopter. I'll be back in a jif!

[Neko_Mega]

Toshiba lets you use glasses that you use from the movies to (One of their newer model tv's do).

Plus the tv isn't costly.

[creepjack]

I dont care what brand tv it is, all the 3d I've seen so far is unimpressive. Active or passive, it's overrated.

[Fatal Blow]

well i have a 3d projector with a 72inch screen its awesome for movies and games cinema at home

[ZETTA]

THIS IS THE KING OF ALL TV'S!!!

[mastershredder]

I'm still digging my Philips ambilight model. Totally gives my game room the arcadey feel. I want to see a high end 3D TV that offers more to gamers than just 3D. Virtual atmosphere helps the gaming experience. With abilight, when playing games like Uncharted, the whole room takes on the colors of the jungles etc. Just kinda pulls you in that much more....man, I love technolgy.
Where is the smello-vision?, so I can smell the rotten stench in game like resistance, silent hill gears etc. ;)

[WetN00dle69]

If only the Back light didnt die off so dang soon on these particular brand. Or so many who have bought Vizio brand tvs have claimed. They have very beautiful picture BUT the back light only lasts for a year.