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Final Fantasy XIII-2: Has Square Enix finally cracked it?

Hands-On: RPG powerhouse moves to fix previous games' mistakes

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Darkseeker5102d ago

No they haven't. If they had, we wouldn't be getting this sequel.

Troll-without-Bridge5102d ago

He i talking about correcting mistakes in the sequel silly poster.

Also it shows that the article author doesnt know anything about game history.

Drekken5102d ago

Yeah, I'm sure miraculously SE learned how to make a good game all of a sudden this gen.

Optical_Matrix5102d ago

lol someone can't read English

CanadianTurtle5102d ago

Uhh no... Square Enix showing that they're making a sequel to the dreadfull FF13 shows that they're making an even worse name for themselves. I really do miss the times when Final Fantasy actually had characters that you cared about.

The cast in FF13 was good except for fucking vanielle who ruined it. FF13 is officially my most hated game of all time, and I'm the kind of person who doesn't like to hate games at all.

DragonKnight5102d ago

I'd say the only good characters were Fang and Sazh, Snow had the best theme though.

Anderson85102d ago

vanille?.. hope was far worse

VampiricDragon5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

Like it or not ff 13 had an average score of 85 on gamerankings/metacritic. With these improvements its a 90 game now.

People are just bitter square has given 20x support to the handhelds this gen

Even just upcoming (considering this new portable gen has just started)

consoles: versus,13-2, dq X= 3

Handhelds: ff theorythm ff, kingdom hearts 3ds, dragon quest rocket slime 3, chocobo racing, ff type zero = 5

Thats the way its been this entire gen

DragonKnight5102d ago

It's because they suck at console games this gen and they know it. Handheld gamers are pretty easy to please because they have lower expectations of a handheld game.

VampiricDragon5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

false handheld games are just as good if not better than console games.And most of there handheld games have gotten supreme scores.

But costs, high attach rate, means handhelds are more attractive.

More like console gamers are bitchy moody people that cant be pleased

"Scale, content, quality. It's not the same"
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Find me another console game that has as much content packed in as dq IX or tactics advance 2, or 4 warriors of light ( 50-70 hours)

And scale doesnt equal better. I will take a game like the TWENY, which is like 30 screens. Over a boring open world with nothing to do and generic stuff at every turn

SephirothX215102d ago

You saying Crisis Core was a bad game?

DragonKnight5102d ago

Crisis Core was an excellent game, but seriously compare handhelds to console games. Scale, content, quality. It's not the same. SE have proven they've lost it when it comes to console games, and since handhelds are not expected to perform at the same scale of console games, it's easier to please everyone. There are great handheld games no doubt, but it doesn't discount that SE sucks this gen.

Baka-akaB5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

you are right , it's not the same ... it was actually better than most jrpgs released on home consoles , comparatively :p

DragonKnight5102d ago

"you are right , it's not the same ... it was actually better than most jrpgs released on home consoles , comparatively :p"

i agree, Crisis Core is better than most jrpgs on home consoles this gen. because SE suck this gen. but you have developers like From Software, Level-5, and Sega making excellent home console JRPGS.

Canidae5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

999, Professor Layton, TWEWY, Ghost Trick, Okamiden, and GS:DD prove otherwise. Especially TWEWY which is one of the best RPG's Ive played, period, on any console. And don't even get me started on the soundtrack for the game, which is easily one of the best for any game. I actually took the cartridge out of my DS, and looked at it trying to figure out how they crammed so much awesome into such a tiny package.

Baka-akaB5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

@DragonKnight

Hardly the point i was going for joke aside .

It's easily one of the best because , suckage of XX or xx company aside , i feel that it could have easily been added as if , content and gameplay included as a ps3 or 360 game . Only of course wih better and more costly graphics .

Same goes imo for stuff like valkyria chronicles 2-3, WKC origins , and probably FF type 0 and quite a few ds titles .
Wich parts of Shin megami Tensei : strange journey arelower in standards and quite , aside from the obvious visuals ones ?

Those and others arent games with lower standards imo , nor lesser titles . They would easily fit in as they are , if only publishers were being cheap enough (not wihout the funds) to make them proper hd consoles games instead .

I think it will be even more apparent if they stick to handheld , but rush instead toward machines like vita , in the future

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zackacloud5102d ago

I bought FFXIII after 2 month of it release and rooooooooughly(I mean it from all of my heart) 'am in chapter 11, to right now I don't have any ability to continue it.

I can't stand up against it at all.

Anderson85102d ago

i doubt i'll ever have enough will power to complete it and i bought it day one

Baka-akaB5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

you guys need to realize that hardly everyone disliked ffxiii . Only a few were admantly vocal against it online and still are .

Maybe you will all awaken to the idea when you'll see XIII-2 being a big commercial success ... but i suspect that even then people will spin and weasel their way out and rationalize people buying the direct sequel of the game "everyone hates" !

DragonKnight5102d ago

A few? Wow you haven't been paying attention have you?

SephirothX215102d ago

I enjoyed it and finished it but agree that it isn't a great FF game. If you just play it as a rpg though, it can be entertaining.

Anderson85102d ago

ffxiii was a big commercial success so i dont see your point.. it wasnt a big critical success so it was more than a few who were vocal about it ...

xii-2 will probably be a big commercial success as well just because its a FF game and they always have good sales but that doesnt mean i or any1 else who disliked the first game will or should enjoy it

Baka-akaB5102d ago (Edited 5102d ago )

@DragonKnight
That's the part you wanna play with ?
Maybe i still understand some english and realize that a few is a pretty vague number ?

Or id i miss n4g and other forums total membership adding up to the FFXIII total sales and all of them disliking it ? Please... but i guess i'll just stop there , and stick with my point : not everyone disliked FFXIII , and there are people looking forward to a sequel , quite many probably (another vague notion), like it or not

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It Shouldn't Take Expedition 33's Success to Remind Square Enix That Turn-Based Still Sells

TNS: Expedition 33 was the wake-up call Square Enix needed, telling it turn-based RPGs are still popular, but that shouldn't have been the case.

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Relientk774d ago

True, but if it does get it through their thick skulls, then that works.

Although, the Dragon Quest 1 + 2 HD remakes will be turn-based and (the worst kept secret) Final Fantasy IX remake should be turn-based I would imagine. Let's see if any newer games go turn-based too.

thorstein4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

DQIII HD Remake was turned based and very successful. Then there was a really obscure turn based game came Balder's Gate 3. I heard it might have done well.

Profchaos4d ago

I wouldn't be shocked if they switched ff to the vii remake combat system

PapaBop4d ago

It won't get through to them though, despite E33's success, they still won't risk going fully turn based for their big budget projects simply because they are still in the mindset that it needs to be action combat to appeal to the mainstream audience. I hope I'm wrong but don't underestimate just how stubborn Japanese execs can be

barom4d ago

Ya'll are hyping up Expedition 33 too much. Reminder that FF XVI sold 3 million in a week and it took Expedition 33 approximately a month to get to that (33 days to reach 3.3 million).

barom3d ago

1 platform vs 3 platforms
1 week vs 1 month

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DivineHand1254d ago

While it is true that Sqaure Enix has moved away from turn based games compared to how they were in the past, there is a good reason for it.

Older gamers will know this but during the ps2 era, we were flooded with turned based games from Japanese studios and this created a form of fatigue back then going into the next generation.

When Square released FF13, they received heavy criticism for making the game turned based like every other FF game and not doing enough to innovate. This is why they made FF15, FF7 Remake and FF16 have real time combat. It gave the series a fresh spin and has brought in new fans to the series.

I personally would be happy with either turned based FF or the real-time combat version we see today.

Shane Kim4d ago

Remake and Rebirth have "turn based" if you set it in the settings.

Lexreborn24d ago

Dang wish I saw your post before I made mine because we definitely feel the same way lol

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah hit the nail on the head but its like ww2 games we get hundreds of them then a decade of nothing and people start missing them i think we're going to start seeing them return

Claire, dragon quest even yakuza have seen turn based return

Runechaz3d ago

Every Pokémon game is also a Turn Base RPG.. and selling millions

andy854d ago

Only need to look at their own game DQ 11 approaching 10 million to show there's a market. And that's not as big of a name as FF

Runechaz3d ago

you can also look at the Pokemon game number

Tacoboto4d ago

Another article about Expedition 33 and Square Enix and turn-based games? This is starting to sound like propaganda.

The game didn't sell because it's a turn-based game; it sold and is enjoyed because it's a really freaking good game that released completed at a good price without gamer drama attached to it. No Mtx, no wait-until-it's-patched, minimal bloat, a self-contained story, no multiplatform BS. Just a solid original game that absolutely nails what it intended to do.

Redemption-644d ago

I was just about to say the same thing.

anast4d ago

This comment should have a 100 upvotes, at least.

CrimsonWing694d ago

Maybe try actually listening to the fans who have supported the series for decades. This habit of ignoring your core audience just to chase people who were never interested in Final Fantasy in the first place makes no sense. And when that approach fails, doubling down on it is beyond baffling.

The battle system has never been the main reason non-FF or non-JRPG players stayed away. Gutting the series’ identity to chase a broader market doesn’t attract new players. It just alienates the loyal ones.

Keep going down this road and we’ll end up with Final Fantasy Fortnite abomination or a F2P Battle Royale game.. Oh wait…

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Final Fantasy IX 25th Anniversary Lottery Announced

Do not miss the Final Fantasy IX lottery commemorating its 25th anniversary and see the new merch release by Square Enix.

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jznrpg23d ago

It would be nice if they had the lottery in other parts of the world as well.

CrimsonWing6923d ago

I’m hoping Xbox Showcase will be where the Remake gets announced… freaking all this stuff with FF9’s anniversary and still nothing on the Remake…

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Square Enix Sales Drop but Profits Grow as it Aims to Shift from Quantity to Quality

Square Enix announced its financial results and the continued strategy for the Medium-Term Business Plan that will span two more years.

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franwex47d ago

If Capcom managed to turn things around, I’m hoping that Square can too!