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Mass Effect: Killing? Sometimes. Talking? Constantly

Dialogue is king in any good story, and there's plenty of it in Mass Effect.

"We have 20,000 lines of dialogue," says senior designer Drew Karpyshyn of Mass Effect. That's the equivalent of 15 to 20 movie screenplays, created by Karpyshyn and five other writers, working with the rest of the creative team. Karpyshyn discusses the challenges of implementing cinematic rules with dialogue and choices in Mass Effect.

Clint Hocking, creative director of the action-oriented Far Cry 2, offers counterpoints. Hocking claims that story is not something that game makers write, and that players are playing the story the same way they would play Tetris. He says that any comparison between games and film breaks down, and that the most powerful filmmaking tools need to be abandoned in order to make a game that equals or surpasses a film.

(Reported by Darren Zenko for Toronto Star on November 4, 2007)

skynidas6448d ago

if we want 20000 lines of dialogue we read book, this game is going to be boring!!

ktchong6448d ago (Edited 6448d ago )

They are acted and voiced by virtual actors in the game.

The BioWare writer says the dialogue in Mass Effect is the equivalent of of 15 to 20 movie screenplays. An average movie is 2 hour long. Mass Effect is 30 to 40 hour long - which is the equivalent of 15 to 20 movies.

AngryHippo6448d ago

..... Sorry have you played it? Seen it being played in person or had any hands on experience with this game?! That comment is like me going 'killzone is going to be another generic first person shooter offering absolutely nothing new and innovative that looks really good, but plays just as good as the last one......sh!t.' That comment was trying to prove a point, im not dissing Killzone in any way, wait and see before making assumptions.

Salvadore6448d ago

Words coming straight out of a Sony fanboy.

DethWish6448d ago

Actually FF7 is by many seen as the best game ever..
You have to read pretty much loads in that game

sagapo6448d ago

a lot of people (including me) like this kinda games.

jiggyjay6448d ago

"That comment is like me going 'killzone is going to be another generic first person shooter offering absolutely nothing new and innovative that looks really good, but plays just as good as the last one"

That's what Killzone 2 is going to be! I mean what else can be offered with FPS after what Halo3 offered? Killzone is going to be another overhyped underdelivered game on Playstation just like Lair and Heavenly Sword!

Gorgon6448d ago

"I mean what else can be offered with FPS after what Halo3 offered?"

You're joking, right? I don't care a rat's ass for either HAlo3 or Killzone2, but boym you must be joking! Halo 3 is a perfectly banal game that doesn't bring anything new watsoever to the FPS genre.

Opinions like yours are the reason why hype works so well with juvenile crowds like the console boys. Ever played Stalker? Deux Ex? System Shock? ever heard of the upcoming Far Cry 2? Thats what FPS should be. Its games like Halo and Killzone that maintain PC gaming alive and prevent many people from going over to consoles. They are just overhyped, childdish games. Time to grow up people.

jiggyjay6448d ago

LOL talking about growing up! That's pretty funny coming from a gamer! Games are for kids time to grow up people! Clown!

BLACKJACK VII6447d ago

Please, please go read a book. It's a well known fact that RPG's focus on story, hence = dialogue. If you don't like cutscenes & dialogue or RPG's, then you are gonna hate MGS$ & FF. Good luck with that.

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RadientFlux6448d ago

The more I read about Mass Effect the more I want to play it. It's going to be tough waiting for my holiday to start so I can enjoy Mass Effect to it's fullest.

Fu19856448d ago

Oblivion shooting RPG with more talking in it,but basically just about shooting that it.I see this game are about exploring,lots conversation and shooting sometime during missions.FF seris is another big step rpg compared to this sci-fi thriller.Tactics team just like Jericho game and real time strategy thinking.This is all about guns guns shooting magic game and nothing more.I think this game will do great went it comes out this holiday for every who enjoy sci-fi shooting rpg.^_^

happyjimmy6448d ago

If i want talking ill watch a movie. I just want to kill things.

wageslave6448d ago

There are games for everyone, relax, try new things.

TheMART6448d ago

Then Gears of War, Halo 3 and Bioshock are more your kind of games. All killer apps, all high score (above 90%) and console exclusive on the 360.

Gorgon6448d ago

"What a joke
If i want talking ill watch a movie. I just want to kill things."

Then stick with consoles, they are perfect for you.

supermandead6666447d ago

Gears of War, and Bioshock on pc too and in the near future halo 3.

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DethWish6448d ago (Edited 6448d ago )

Uhh what..?

EDIT: This is not what I meant.. Halo DOES NOT have more dialogue than Mass Effect, an RPG.

If Halo has 35,000 lines, those must be counted in a different way >.<

The Chief of Mjolnir6448d ago (Edited 6448d ago )

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's "just" 35 000.

EDIT: DethWish, Bungie said it in one of their updates/podcasts. I don't remember which one.

And the most of them are just made for fun.

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10 RPGs That Defined The Genre

Thanks to their innovative approach to gaming, RPGs like Dark Souls, Final Fantasy VII, and Dragon Quest left a significant impact on the genre.

ApocalypseShadow765d ago

Good games but no Phantasy Star?

merlox764d ago

Why do people forget Phantasy Star? That is one of my favorite RPG series. Another ther good but overlooked series is ,Y's.

anast764d ago

ES3 set things off, it's a shame they got greedy and decided to cut corners so the executives could get huge pay days.

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masterfox839d ago

Farcry 3 and literally thats it! lol

GamingSinceForever837d ago (Edited 837d ago )

I recently tried 3 for the first time but the frame rate was a turnoff.

I liked 5 and 6 though.

banger88837d ago

If you have a Series X or S, the Xbox 360 version runs at 60 fps with fps boost. It's a shame the remaster doesn't.

isarai839d ago

2 and 3, pretty much the only ones i really enjoyed. 1 was amazing for the time but aged quite poorly. 4 has the elephant gun, all i can praise from any entry after 3 lol

cooperdnizzle837d ago

Ummmm 3 than stop.

Okay maybe two as well. But yeah probably 3 and then move on.

JEECE837d ago (Edited 837d ago )

Far Cry 2. People constantly rant about games now being too easy, holding your hand, having too many unnecessary RPG-lite leveling features, etc. People specifically complain about open world games being too focused on tons of collectibles and "checkmarks" that just waste time.

Far Cry 2 is an answer to all of those complaints. It was made by Ubisoft before they fell into all the traps discussed above (and before they started inserting towers into their games to defog the map). It has respawning enemies, weapons that degrade, and the collectible diamonds are very useful in the game (which you find in a similar way to the way you find shrines in BOTW with a radar system). The map you have is an in game item you pull out while playing, not a pause menu that is unnecessarily detailed. Also the enemy AI and physics are much better than later entries in the series.

It has a mixed reputation because people at the time said it was too hard, the weapon degradation was annoying, and then respawning enemies were annoying. FC2 came out in 2008, so this was before games like Dark Souls and BOTW had come out and made it cool to like these types of features.

XbladeTeddy836d ago

Far Cry 2, the one with the AI that find you through walls and trees, can one shot you from a mile away and have 100% accuracy? That was frustrating not fun because cheap AI.

JEECE836d ago (Edited 836d ago )

Uhh, I mean, it isn't one of these games where once the enemies have detected you they will magically forget you exist because you walked behind a wall or went into a bush. And yeah the AI isn't stormtrooper level accuracy. Again, these are positives, not negatives to me.

To be fair, I'm really directing this at the people most critical of "Modern Ubisoft" or "Modern Open World" design elements. Like the type of people who fawned all over Elden Ring because it had a clean UI because they are so burnt out by the "checkbox" type of open world design.

If you like those types of games, then a later FC game like 3 and especially 4-5 would be more your style.

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ShwaaMan884d ago

Bioshock still looks fantastic, one of my all time favorites.

Yui_Suzumiya884d ago

Beyond: Two Souls on PS3 can compete with modern day graphics.

SonyStyled884d ago (Edited 884d ago )

Same as Killzone 2 and 3, uncharted 2 and 3, Infamous 2, Heavy Rain, Resistance 3

jasonismoney884d ago

I wish this was entirely true, but you might want to load up Killzone 2 and Resistance 3 again.

SonyStyled884d ago

@jason I watched some gameplay videos of KZ2 and R3 on my full screen. They are on par or succeed graphically to the first person shooters mentioned in the article that also launched on the seventh generation of consoles. Try the same and see what you think

cthulhucultist884d ago

Killzone 3 was super impressive! I could not believe the graphics back then as I was regularly pausing the game to stand in awe looking at the surroundings! Resistance however did not impress me that much. Heavy rain is also another amazing graphically speaking game. It almost felt next gen

Fist4achin884d ago

I always thought the first 3 Gears of War games looked great and still hold up for today.

SonyStyled884d ago

They did for their day. I recently played gears judgement with on the 360 and the draw distance was so blurry. The characters up close look great though

JEECE884d ago

Far Cry 2 was awesome. In addition to having demonstrably better physics and AI than later games in the series, it had a lot of design decisions that, criticized at the time, have since been praised in games like BOTW and Dark Souls.

iNcRiMiNaTi884d ago

It might not be super amazing by today's standard but I thought Mgs3 looked really good

JEECE884d ago

In terms of art style it still holds up.

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