In the 'Heads-Up' update on the Playstation EU Blog, it has become apparent that Red Faction: Armageddon is now available to download. That's all well and good, right? WRONG! It's available for the bargain price of £58, which is nearly 70 Euros!
ummmm....finlands gamestop sells it for 70 euros new
In order for online games to be successfully why don't they price them right? Why would I buy it from the online store when i can get it cheaper with case cover manual somewhere else like amazon or game retailers? They should take that into account when pricing full games online. They are rip off prices at the moment.
The pricing is always funny. When I wanted to get Portal 2, it was $50 on Steam but on Amazon it was $30.
thats something i wondered when i saw the price of infamous, doesnt the fact of releasing the game online saves them a lot of money on producing of the discs, manuals, cases, etc, as well as the money they would lose to the retailers??? So why are we still being charged the same amount?? it should be at least $10 cheaper if u ask me.
You guys would be terrible businessmen. Having the option of buying the game online is just that, another option, another way of purchasing the game. If they priced it lower than retail packaging then they would be hurting the retail sales of the games. Why would they do that. the availability of the games online is just for people who prefer to buy their games and download them instead of having the disc. personally I like having the disc.
Not really, not always. A lot of people still don't have internet connections. A lot of people don't have fast internet connections, so whats that mean? Chances are, they will buy the game from a retailer than to wait for online. There would still be plenty of people who would pre-order and what not, too.
You have other options....
DD games are cheap for Devs and Publishers, so the price could be lower, but there is no significant decrease of prices, unless it's Steam, that's why Physical Copies are the Best. @No Way Also, chances are that HDDs get screwed and you have to dd everything again, even if you have a good ISP, it's a pain in the @ss...
From the comment section on the original site: "hey moron - sony doesn't set the prices that are in the store. it's the game publishers/developers that dictate how much their content costs. do your research before posting ill-informed, misguided nonsense. " AND "Bah well buy it from Amazon -- aren't free markets great? :P "
@nycrdude "Having the option of buying the game online is just that, another option, another way of purchasing the game." I agree with this, but... "If they priced it lower than retail packaging then they would be hurting the retail sales of the games. Why would they do that." Why does it matter how they sell their game? From a business standpoint it would surely make sense to encourage digital downloads - Lower production costs and it gets rid of the second-hand market. IMO a DD version of a game would have to be about half the price of the retail version for me to consider it. I sometimes buy albums from i-tunes, but that's only because they can often be about half the price of the CD version. Perhaps these prices are just the publishers testing the water, I'm sure by next gen DD games will be considerably cheaper than retail.
For the same reason that Amazon compares their prices on Kindle books to hardcovers instead of paperbacks-- they want to keep the prices high when we eventually go download only...
MS does the same sh!t pricing for Games on Demand! I don't know why these prices has fallen sooner? Or who actually buys these games? The only good news is that I often time find Xbox Live Points on the cheap around 25% off. There are mostly three things that bother me about digital downloads: a) pricing. Stores compete, and clearance out stock. This results in significant savings for consumers while digital downloads cost far more than the store bought disc that has it's profit shared with many parties. Makes no logical business sense. b) you can lend a physical copy, but you can't lend a digital copy. if your provider sucks @ss like GameStop or EA's Origin, you might find your download expired! c) Convenience of instantly start up a game is nice, but I also love the Collector's Edition stuff and having a physical copy in my hand.
The prices on on demand are ridiculous. Shadowrun is 29.99 on there I believe or maybe 19.99 but you can get it used at Gamestop for 5.00. There's games on there that are almost 5 years old and they're trying to get 20.00 out of em.
Actually MS don't do the "same" shit. And Sony also aren't pulling this one. It's the publishers who price the content, not Microsoft or Sony.
@Oxymoron028 i largley agreem with you you have one small problem Infamous 2 £49.99
The R.R.P for Infamous 2 is 49.99, same as most games, high street stores just never sell them for that much. Take Black Ops for example, that had an R.R.P of 54.99 yet nowhere had it for that price instore, only digitally.
Yep, I just got another 360 from a trade in, haven't used a 360 since 2009. I went to the ms marketplace to download alan wake. Alan Wake is $19.99 in the retail stores but is $29.99 in the xbox live market place. Yeah i just walked over to bestbuy.
@starshaped they confirmed Red faction Armageddons R.R.P is what they are selling it for so i guess thats ok with you?
Nope, i wasn't implying i'd pay that for it either, thats ridiculous, and anyone with sense will buy a far cheaper copy online or in a store, what i was saying is that it completely up to Sony/THQ/Anyone if they want to charge the R.R.P, whether or not anyone buys it.
T3quilaSlay3r is right. The EU blog has a reply to someone who asked about that price and 70 euroes for Red Faction is indeed the expected price of the title in stores.
i didn't know Crookstop have dug it's fangs into Finland...
It isnt sony...its the makers of the game who charge it for the outlet...ps, I get my games cheaper online but people still shop at gamestop for whatever reason. Wheres the "Comeon gamestop!" articles? oh yea thats right..
console games should be the same price everywhere, online or retailers. i dont get what your paying extra for? infamous 2 is £49.99 on the uk psn store and £37.99 in stores. whats the extra £12 for? maybe it costs sony or suckerpunch to have it up on the psn just like it costs others for demo's.
well who ever buy's it for that price is an idiot anyway
Stupidly enough, People actually do buy it. No idea what the hell they are thinking
I don't think anyone has been stupid enough yet, usually everything on the store someone has rated, however RFA has no ratings. This doesn't necessarily mean no one has brought it, but its a good indicator
Sony not in charge of pricing. They just put it on the store.
True, everytime this happens someone complains. When will they learn that Sony is not in charge of setting the price?
Exactly. The article asks what Sony are thinking - well it really isn't Sony at all. I'm actually quite confident that Sony would never choose to charge so much for a single game.
i think they are but im not to sure so i will says its 50/50. sony still over-charges for their first party games. god of war for the psp is like 39.99 (when i last checked) on the pstore, but i can get it at targets for 29.99. this is nothing knew with sonys extortionate prices in the pstore
and this is why I think Digital Distrubution won't take off any time soon on consoles. Steam/Valve do it the right way, MS and Sony choose to fob us off more often than not, well to us European gamer's anyway.
I believe M$ if far more guilty of ripping off consumers. hard drives and wifi say hello.
I was disspointed when I found out I couldn't play online till I had a wireless adapter. Cost me 60 quid for that shit.
I'm not exactly sure how much quid are, but yah, I had to spend $95 on the wifi adapter for my 360. Was pretty pissed.
@ Kyro...I agree. I had a PSPgo since day one and bought tons of games for it. I also have a collection of over 300 PS3, PS2, PSP games combined. In my experience collecting and having a PSPgo, I realized buying digital distribution games I have spent more money than buying from places like Amazon, Gamestop etc. If Digital Distribution prices was to drop by removing the middle man then maybe if will be adopted by more people.
For the last time, this is not Sony pricing the game, it is THQ, they put the games up at the price that THQ wants, they price Sony produced games, not third party games.
I'm sure every game dev would want their games sold at RRP but it ain't right that high street outlets can pretty much put whatever price they like to sell the game yet when it comes to digital they pretty much demand Sony to sell it at RRP even though we get less for our money.
M$ does the same thing and people buy it so sony is probably doing the same thing.
It's not the "PS Store". It's THQ. Prices on the PSN are decided by publishers. If you want to rage without an ounce of composure, do so at the right target.
Was looking at this in my local town today, the prices ranged from £20 - £29.99, why THQ expect anybody to pay this insane amount is beyond me
Extortionate price. But SONY do not set non-sony game prices. That would be THQ deciding that RRP means Actual Price when online. The sad thing is that the guys running PSN Blog know these companies are just not getting digital distribution, but SONY will still throw Infamous 2 online for £50. I don't know many high-street shops that will sell it for more than £45, if not £35.
Downloadable prices are always going to be close to RRP at launch so as not to pi** off 'bricks and mortar' retailers - who still hold significant sway and power when it comes to marketing, etc. Until the majority of buyers start changing their habits, don't expect any changes.
It's the RRP THQ set. If you actually look at the RRP of most games they are £54.99 or at least £49.99; as it is digitally distributed THQ control the pricing, rather than a store selling it at the usual £40 mark. I can get it here ( http://www.shopto.net/PS3/V... ) for £25.85. So I agree that it is a total rip-off.
I don't think I need to mention again what has already been said. Take your complaints to the publishers. At least that way, your voices might be heard a bit louder rather than directing them at Sony who at the end of the day, can't really do much. But that's not to detract away from the actual point, the price for Red Faction is ridiculous.
Steam 1 PSN 0 MS -1
Haha, if publishers charged below retail on consoles they would lose business with said retailers. brb using Steam
I agree with your point. but why should the publisher really care? A sale is a sale, and I suspect profit on a digital version is more than on a physical version. I know most games are still sold from online retailers or bricks and mortar stores, so a publisher would be stupid to lose shelf space (even virtual!) and alienate the retailers by undercutting them. However the mark-up between physical and digital goes far beyond simply keeping the retailers on side - it feels more like price gouging.
If the retailer sees that they sell the game online for cheaper than RRP, it will create competition with the retailer. The retailer will then ORDER LESS games from said publisher... It is in similair fashion to breaking street dates....
Sony don't set the prices...huh? regardless of who's to blame, probably third parties, it's not just Red Faction, let me tell you how I feel towards the EU store, it's like this: I went the other day to a Starbucks they only had expresso, shit flavoured beans, turd-on-a-stick, gravel, dust,cat hemorrhoids in brine, soccer shirts and hannah montana songs. Then they try to charge me 7.99 for one expresso, "Hey I just work here, I just sell it, blame the coffee bean prices, blame exporters, blame localization, your continent has too many countries(lol), blame that dog over there, now look at the floor, back to me, look at your hands, back to me, wait two weeks; voila silent hi- I mean expresso has aditionally dissapeared from the menu because we could't translate the menu to greek and arab" said the blo- I mean, the bartender. The lady who cleans the toilet then passes by and whispers "just don't blame our boss andrew house, he has to make a profit at the end of fiscal year or we will all be fired by howard stringer" said the blo- I mean, the bartender. Then I just went to a grocery store and bought 2 big bags of the same coffee of the same brand, for the same price.They also come with a plastic case and instruction manuals.Who's trying to rape customers here?. End of damn story.
That made no sense.
It was a very nice narrative though, I liked the cleaning lady.
I was kinda stoned when I wrote that. Nevertheless, the EU store does not make sense either Sitris.They upload things, then they dissapear, they cost more than anywhere else, codes not working, scarcity of content, poor support, broken dates, games we never get, bad translations, no translations at all, or waiting because someone wants to translate "start & options" to hindi. How can you condone that? I just laugh instead of crying.
Oh no, I agree with the message that your trying to say, here in Australia the prices re even crazier, double the price of the Americans, despite the fact our dollar is stronger than theres. But what am I going to do? I buy all my games online, cant buy digital online.
Sony's overcharging me with awesome games.
I imagine it's the publisher that sets the price, not Sony (although Sony probably take a cut from all PSN sales, so the publisher may factor that in when setting their price). Whoever is to blame for setting the price, I'm annoyed at the 'convenience tax' on downloadable games. It's seems unlikely to me that the cost of pressing a DVD/Blu-Ray, manufacturing a box and insert, stroing the product and shipping to retailers is cheaper than the cost of hosting the game on a server farm and having the bandwidth to cope with demand.
Not Sony's fault, unless it's an error, which I doubt. What's REALLY bullshit though is how they're selling inFamous 2 on the store for £50. WHY BOTHER competing with the world when you can sell it at full price?! What's more depressing is that people actually bought it at that price.
They are testing the water trying to experiment with price so you idiots don't fucking buy this crap, they want to see if enough people buy it at that price so they could charge that same price at retail. I remember when steam they sold l4d for like 60 bucks or so something high like that but then they drop the price to like 40 and it went up like 5000% up or something.
Agree. Things sell at a price people are willing to pay and what the manufacturer can get away with. Activision proved this when they bumped the price of Black Ops, and still sold by the bucket load - now quite a few games have a higher RRP and retail price. Only way to send a message is to vote with your wallet - unfortunately a lot of people people either have no sense, or like getting ripped off. Even 'Horse Armour' sold well!!
Price too high ? Simply: don't buy!
Sony don't set prices the publisher does.
Isn't this the price Volition/THQ gives it? Not Sony.
Bah DD uses my bandwidth up big time, I only get 20GB a month. Plus uses my HDD space, plus costs more, plus I can't sell or lend it out or swap. But oh how it is nice to not have to put the disc in.
Sony didnt set the price. Do some research. You just cant expect a well researched article on this "journalistic" website. buncha raging trolls.
FFS it's not Sony's problem, that's just the RRP and the publishers want to sell it at the RRP
Xbox Live is the same shit bitch
I've been using examples like this for a month. It isn't Sony choosing the price, its the developers. We keep seeing this push for online and supposedly online prices will be cheaper, yet we still get jipped like this. Watch when this game hits the bargain bins for like 20 dollars, it will STILL be at 60 dollars online. The lowest it will go without being in a "sale" will be like 30 to 40 dollars. You are taking out a middle man that uses shelf space. When a new game comes out this middle man needs shelf space, so the old game that isn't selling gets pushed off as fast as possible. You put this middle man online where shelf space is unlimited he no longer needs to do it. You want it? You pay full price.
Mostly true. Though I do believe that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all exert a great deal of influence over certain titles. There's no way that every single publisher for PS1 Classics, for example, chose the same price for each of their games. Similarly, notice how w/ Nintendo every single NES game costs X, every SNES game X+2, N64 X+4? That didn't happen by accident. Compared to Nintendo, at least, the PSN has very competitive prices. The thing that irritates most people (myself included) is to see digital copies being sold for the same amount as retail discs. That's absurd. Publishers save TONS of money on digital distrubution--the consumer ought to reap some of the benefits of that, especially considering that digital copies have far less value than physical copies. Beyond the whole resale thing, with a physical copy you always have the option to return merchandise, or replace defective merchandise. Take the Prince of Persia HD Trilogy, for example. It's a godawful port, full of game-breaking bugs. If I had bought the disc, I could have returned it for a full refund. But I downloaded for the same price. Can I return it? No. Can I replace it? No. Can I even get Sony to consider removing defective merchandise from the PSN store? No. What I do get is a series of condescending emails telling me that my PS3 is obviously broken (or, rather, all THREE of my PS3s, as well as those of the hundreds of other people experiencing similar game-breaking bugs) and telling me to pay Sony even MORE so they can "fix" it. It's absurd. There's a fundamental flaw in how digital distrubution works, currently, and it needs to be addressed soon. The inability to return, refund or replace digital merchandise allows developers to essentially stop supporting their products.
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I like dumb things like this, crying about a price for DLC that is outside Sony's control. Now tells us that their isn't any free stuff on PSN.
Um, what's new? PSN has always been like this. You're paying for convenience.