Battlefield 3 - No modding tools due to Frostbite 2's complexity or not?

DSOGaming writes: "Frostbite 2 is quite complex and it wll be very difficult for people to mod the game. Moreover, because of the nature of the set up of levels, of the destruction and all those things… modding and mapping could get a bit tricky.

Patrick then concluded that it would be too big of a challenge for people to make a mod with the Frostbite 2.

Now forgive us for doubting this, but couldn’t DICE make the tools and let the modders give their best? They have already stated that their engine is complex so it’s about time to give modders this challenge. Damn straight Patrick, modders love a big challenge."

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Warprincess1162660d ago

The last paragraph was really interesting and i hope you battlefield fanboys read it.

Agent-862660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )

Yes, I read it and please tell me how it's any different than your precious COD. Activision has made ripoff mappacks into an art form. Plus, you're a console gamer. Why do you care about PC modding? As far as I know, Black Ops wasn't moddable and I doubt MW3 will be either. But that's not why I don't buy COD games. I don't like the lack of dedicated servers, low player counts, small maps, killstreaks and gamers like you. I used to be a COD fan, but they "sold their soul" to the console gods and left the PC gamer behind. If they don't care about me, why should I care about them?

lil Titan2660d ago

really want them to take a page from epic games on unreal tournament 2007 when you can make maps and transfer them to the PS3

evrfighter2660d ago

Nah didnt bother to read it. What's there to read about when I know bf3 is destroying the competition this year.

captain-obvious2660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )

i dont believe it
they dont to give us mod tools just because they dont want to

i still dont believe it

maybe to sell us DLC how knows

PhantomT14122660d ago

The Black Ops modtools (beta) are out there... but I should add "finally". They were released like a month after the official release date.
They sounded like they had technical problems, but I suspect they received pressure from Activision because they wanted them to hold until the second map pack's release...

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BlackKnight2660d ago

"The last paragraph was really interesting and i hope you battlefield fanboys read it."


"I read a flaw about BF3 on PC even though its a flaw of COD on PC and other games on PC that don't release mod tools. I hope this helps validate my PS3 purchase because I am so immature I pledge loyalty to a company of a platform".

Oh Warprincess, does it ever get tiring? Oh that's right, you have one bubble because some reasonable N4G users consistently take your bubbles away for a very good reason. 100% fanboy :)

KeiserSosay47882660d ago

My god... With comments like that, its no wonder no one takes you seriously.

Inside_out2660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )

So basically, Dice is saying that gamers are not as smart as them and are inferring they are in fact TOO dumb to use such a sophisticated engine like Frostbite 2...o_0

Man these guys really think their crap doesn't smell if they believe anyone will believe this. I'm sure some sheeple PC guys will come out and agree with them.

The mod community is just to small and insignificant for mega gods of gaming EA-Dice to care about.

This is all about money. What happen to what the gamers want...remember that long speech Dice just gave us in another thread up on N4G where they claim to be inventing co-op and firefight modes because gamers want it and it's about offering choice...Suuurrre Dice, whatever you say. :/

DeadlyFire2659d ago

Its all about money really. They want someone to pay for a full license to the game engine and sell their DLC. With the SDK you can make identical maps to their SDK and that is why they don't like releasing it.

I want mod tools available. So I can have free maps. Not one to pay $20 bucks for 4 maps.

Agent-862660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )

Wow, both the COD fanbots in the same BF3 article (Warprincess116 and Inside_Out). You two are truly pathetic. You play on consoles....what do you care about PC modding? Plus you act like Activision and COD are doing something different. I think the MW1 was the last COD game that could be modded. Inside_Out says "This is all about money." What about Activision's ripoff $15 mappacks released every 3 months? Please stay with COD because the Battlefield will be a better place without you two.

PhantomT14122660d ago

Actually, Treyarch supported World at War modding heavily.

Agent-862660d ago

And BF2 had modding as well. My point was that neither of the current games from either series has had modding support and these two trolls are trying to make it into a big deal that BF3 doesn't have modding. They are just about in every BF3 article trolling away. Personally, I think they have their "panties in a bunch" because they're afraid that BF3 will be better than their cherished MW3.

PhantomT14122660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )


I agree though that IW might not support modding for MW3. Their community manager, no I mean "creative strategist" (like it makes a huge difference) Bowling doesn't give a sh*t about PC gaming.
At least, Treyarch's community manager came from the modding community (he started up a CoD mod website) so he understand these things.

EDIT: It's really sad to see the COD series, and especially Infinity Ward dropping modding (as well as PC gaming). It's what they are made from, some of the devs like Roycewicz that you could save (or not) in the Bog level of Call of Duty 4 were modders. Anyway, they're not Infinity Ward anymore, just an Activision puppet studio.

BeastlyRig2660d ago (Edited 2660d ago )

I am still buying it! It's a PC game first then everything else..

Skryrim, Rage & Arma3 will have mod support so I am good.

fluffydelusions2660d ago

Mod tools are a thing of the past unless you are Valve. DLC (as crap as it may be) is the new thing. Mod tools or not I'm still buying so doesn't matter to me.

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