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Iwata: Wii U's HD Graphics Will Help Attract First-Person Shooters

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata says the enhanced, HD visual capabilities of the Wii U will appeal to many third-party developers that were reluctant to bring titles such as first-person shooters to the original Wii.

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wicko4708d ago

It's a shame your controller won't.

iforgotmylogin4708d ago

if anything the controller opens up new possibility's especially for first person shooters.

gaffyh4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

I can't really imagine having to hold the controller up to the screen, and then move using the analog sticks. Seems very unnatural, and will probably start hurting quickly.

By that I mean, you will have to hold the controller vertically so that it faces your TV, which is an unnatural way of holding something. So you won't be able to do it for a very long time.

Fishy Fingers4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

Why would you have to do that? The touch screen could simply display weapons or whatever, it could remove the HUD from the screen. It could all be that basic, or in fact, as complex as the devs can dream up. You dont have to hold it up vertically or anything.

Edit: disagrees huh, Ok, you have to hold it vertically. LOL at the worried PS3/360 gamers.

sdtarm4708d ago

idk how ppl think that putting the interface in the touchscreen is any useful at all.

you are just gonna get distracted from what is going on in the screen cuz you have to look somewhere else and if you dont look you may screw up.

and you would have to look cuz you aint goint to memorize the interface for everysingle game. the touchscreen now seems useless in traditional games honestly idk how thats innovation or revolution how ppl is claiming that nintendo did

Skip_Bayless4708d ago

It's gonna be 4th on the totem pole for many people when they consider which version of that shooter they will get. For me it's usually 1.PS3 2.360 3.PC. 4.WiiU.

Fallouts4708d ago

man! some people need to stop gaming and go to the gym...

everything is a bother to you guys... "my hands are going to hurt, my legs might give in from standing so much"

my goodness, what a finicky bunch.

go to the gym!

ProjectVulcan4708d ago

HD graphics? What about online? What use is finally having performance to make HD games when what matters most for COD and BF etc is how good the online service is and what your mates are playing it on.

joydestroy4708d ago

yep, i'm interested to see how their new console turns out. i'd really like some Mario and Zelda back in my life now

sikbeta4707d ago

Forget about the shape of the controllers, WTF they were thinking when they put those nubs over the face buttons?

Exquisik4707d ago

@Fishy Fingers

You do have to hold the controller vertically in order to see the screen on your controller and the action that's happening on your big screen at the same time. If you hold the Wii U controller regularly (horizontally), then you will have to look down on the controller just to have access to the hud and other information, which is an inconvenience considering that you must always be on full alert when playing FPS games especially online. I would never put the HUD on the Wii U controller. Misc. information such as secondary guns, teammates' information, scores, etc. will be much more useful and convenience to put on the Wii U controller. Or maybe a map that can be used as killstreak perk.

Either way, the online features will be more of an important factor to FPS gamers than anything else. They all bought FPS games for a reason, and that's to play online. If Nintendo still uses the Friend Code, then I doubt that many FPS gamers will jump ship to the Wii U.

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Theyellowflash304708d ago

How so? The controller actually works really well with shooters.
- Imagine controlling the RC car in Black Ops with the touch screen instead of on the main screen. That way you can still see your player and not get killed.
- Or mapping a air strike on the touch screen instead of a big old map covering the main screen.
- Even item management, switching classes, and map navigation would all be enhanced by a touchscreen.

Your smoking something crazy if you don't think that controller would enhance First Person Shooters.

Samus HD4708d ago

even if it didn't work
Wii U uses Wii remotes (Wii Zaper) :D

dragunrising4708d ago

I love the controller however it lacks analog sticks and pressure sensitive triggers. Imagine using a slightly larger 3DS nub and you get the idea of how it will feel. Lack of triggers with feedback will impact FPS games as well as driving games. Nintendo needs to change both of these things if they want to attract FPS and racing (sim) fans.

jib4708d ago

first point i can agree with

the next two to me doesnt sound all that better than pressing a button(<easy) to show a new screen. that, as opposed to looking down or bringing the controller up to your face which takes you away from the main screen anyway

wicko4708d ago

Sounds like you're fooling yourselves - to each their own I guess but that controller looks to be extremely awkward for shooters, hell for pretty much everything. All these new control schemes come off as gimmicks that will be fun for a couple days and then you'll be back to the old standard controller/kb+mouse. It's happened to pretty much every controller innovation so far, and I don't think this will be any different.

Theyellowflash304708d ago

If you actually read any of the peoples impressions from E3 its actually really light and standard. It has all the standard buttons a normal controller has. Mapping a RC car to a touchscreen is a gimmick? How? it frees up the main screen so you can see your character. I've been killed a few times when trying to deploy a airstrike. What is so gimmicky about mapping that to a touchscreen. Your blind if you cant see the benefits of having a another screen to free up space on the main screen.

wicko4707d ago

Like others have been saying, having to look down at another screen to see HUD and what have you is a *detriment* to performance.

And wow, you've thought of one or two minor game mechanics from a single game that would benefit from the extra screen. Unless there is some kind of innovation where you actually use the controller's uniqueness for a major mechanic in shooters, something that would apply to most or all shooters, or convince other shooters to adopt that innovation as a standard, what you've come up with is a gimmick.

AEtherbane4708d ago

On the contrary..
Having all your huds on the controller's screen, or even just radar would be invaluable in an FPS.

Peaceful_Jelly4708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

On the contrary, having the HUD on the TV would be more useful in a fast paced online match than having to change your sight between controller and TV. Just saying...

Miths4708d ago

It seems to me that you won't know what happens and who just blew your face off while you're busy looking down at the HUD screen in your lap?

I'm neither a huge FPS fan (though I do play them on occasion) nor have anything inherently against Nintendo, but I'm also among those struggling to see how adding an extra screen - outside your normal field of view - can help rather than hamper gameplay in many game genres, particularly fast paced ones.

AEtherbane4707d ago

Think of it this way. your radar is constantly on that second controller screen. In most shooters, you have to hold down a button and disable everything to view the map.
Also, think of this. Like in the future soldier game, or even in something like MWF, you deploy a drone. Now you can control and see te drone's vision while playing normally. Or, you do a drone strike like in MWF, the computer screen is on the controller, so you can still see your surroundings.
I see good potential at least....

Organization XII4708d ago

I already see a future next-generation made of FPS-only games. So long good old generations where variety had a substantial meaning.

nopunctuation4707d ago

The new controller will make FPS games viable unlike the wiimote.

dcbronco4707d ago (Edited 4707d ago )

That controller opens a lot of possibilities for Nintendo. It makes RTSs viable, it works for strategy FPSs and it would be great for inventories in all types of games. RPGs. Shooters.

Instead of going from pushing a button and making a selection from a wheel on Mass Effect. You just hit the icon for the power you want to use. Or select the weapon you want to go to.

@ L6D7BLU3

They are just short sighted.

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L6RD7BLU34708d ago (Edited 4708d ago )

let the people hate, that's all they do is complain about things that they don't even own.

AWBrawler4708d ago

Screw first person gimme some good old third person and Ghost Recon

dubal-e4708d ago

Yep gonna be a first person extravaganza LOL

rawrockkillz4708d ago

I'm more interested to see what it could do with the RTS genre on consoles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

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RiseNShine1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno22h ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple10121d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref21d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde21d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197221d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville21d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218320d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos20d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai21d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref21d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan21d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00720d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197221d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197221d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref21d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde21d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197221d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197221d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier21d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto21d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218320d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto20d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman21d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts21d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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