Adrian of FinalSmash takes the news about The Redner Group blacklisting for "negative" reviews and shows what they really meant without the twist on other journalism sites.
I agree, I think some of these sites are being too hard on this game, and some are acting really immature. Like giving it 3/10, I played it and I think it's mediocre, but not that bad. I feel like since it's been in development so long everyone is being harsher towards it.
Well....as much as I'd like to fight for Dukes dignity I'd have to say it is a pretty poor game. I wanted it to be a good game but it's not even that. I can appreciate old school games but it wasn't even old school, it's just not very good. I can appreciate old school gaming, I still love playing the original, Doom, Quake, I love Serious Sam. I wasn't expecting much but Duke is really bad. It's not a new game with an old school twist, it's just a new game that isn't very good. I don't like saying it, but it's true.
i played it too man, and 3/10 is being a bit too generous
yeh yeh yeh
Our writers gave it a 8.5 but I think it is a 6. Above average but a solid rental. I had fun with it, others did too. Attacks are silly and immature. This fiasco could cost someone a job and that is just sad.
Yeah really, 1/10 should signify a broken unplayable video game. 3/10 should be utter shite. I haven' played it even, but just looking at some vids I can tell it ain't 3/10
I knew it definitely wouldn't get perfect scores all around, but from what I've played of it so far, no WAY does it deserve scores that low. Unfortunately so many reviews are based around the hype it's been getting rather than the game itself.
I went in expecting the game to suck, so anything better than that was a victory.
Reviews are opinions. "Cool, so now thanks to this guy not only publishing wrong information, now he’s leading a pack of gamers in the wrong direction as well." Well, that sounds like journalism to me. hehe
Absolutely nothing wrong with journalism. Nothing wrong with reviews either. I didn't say anything against either in the article.
It sounds more like bad journalism to me. Let's not forget what real journalism is all about.
This is actually ridiculous. The guy did nothing wrong. After all, many reviews WERE really venomous and the fact that he recognized them as such and did not want to do business with them anywhere is a sign of integrity. Yes, he should have talked to those people privately before sending out a tweet. That is a sign that he handled the situation wrongly. But tearing the guy down and making vile articles of your own (yes, ArsTechnica, you) is not appropriate either.
Reviews are not supposed to be walls of text full of bashing or simple opinions. It's all about objective description and constructive criticism. Going apeshit insane on a review, cursing and mocking a game shows the big lack of professionalism of the writer. In fact, journalism is not supposed to be about opinions at all. It's all about beeing honest, neutral and objective.
I agree with all that except the opinion part. Reviews must have opinion in them. That's almost the whole point
I for once think that the whole point is about giving us facts and leaving the opinions to the readers. It's just that In the way I see things, reviews and opinion are articles are two very distinct things. In a journalistic point of view it just doesn't make sense, it's simply against the deontological code.
I think it depends more what the website stands for. If they want to give you the option to form your own opinion then that is fine. But opinionated Journalism is fine in its own right. Without opinion though, the review just ends up being an advanced product description. Also, how is it even possible to write a review without SOME form of opinion? For example, what "fact" are you going to say about the graphics? People judge graphics by different standards and saying the graphics are "good" or "bad" is a completely subjective opinion that cannot have one answer. Having just facts in a review would make any site pointless and without merit and we would be better off having PR companies just telling us about their game and not bother with the middleman of a gaming review site. Luckily, many times the review sites are objective enough in in their opinions to accurately represent a game, but it seems that many are going overboard as of late, especially in relation to Duke. Hopefully this will change and we can have good reviews that balance out the good, though often overzealous, PR.
This is a really well-written piece. It is very disappointing, but not unexpected, that The Redner Group was fired. 2K needed to distance themselves not from the tweet heard round the gaming world, but the backlash and misinterpretation. Some of the reviews for Duke are absurd. An F from 1up? Ars crapping on anyone who actually *did* like the game? Yeah, those aren't journalistic takes, they are cries for site hits. I've read tons of reviews of broken games on these sites and neither were as hard on those miserable titles as they were on Duke. It's a shame that being called out like that just gave them more fuel for their brand of "journalism."
Indeed. It is a shame.
We'll have to let this guy lecture all the book, art, movie, fashion, music, and drama critics out there on how "journalism" supposedly works without venom in the review process. No doubt they've all been doing it wrong for a couple of centuries now and he's just the idiot to straighten them up with his "knowledge" of the field.
Not at all. There's a difference between journalism to a point with your facts in line before you rip someone apart and journalism with a change of words before you rip someone apart. If you support people changing other people's words around to cause more controversy, more power to you.
Lol they still read mainstream reviews.
Everyone as opinions and most of them are childish to bad for them im having alot of fun with the game and that´s what all matters. Im pretty sure the next Gearbox fully made Duke Nukem is gonna be more acceptable for the masses.
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