As you can see from the Gamestop mem GamersReprts.com obtained, Gamestop is no longer offering Xbox360 Product Replacement Plans on any new console. The plans currently out in circulation will stay good until they expire.
is MS crazy ? This would deter the remaining potential x360 purchasers. I hope MS changes the decision
RROD has been fixed, there are no other issues other than plain old wear and tear.
it's simply under a 3 year warranty, which doesn't make sense considering people are going to own their consoles for a lot longer than that.
you gotta be pretty ignorant to think that the RROD is cured...
Its understandable why PS3 fanboys hope and wish that MSFT won't fix it. You talk like Sony fanatics won't be bringing RROD up; long after people do not have problems. You people will look for things others would ignor if dug up about PS3.
yeah the problem can be solved if Microsoft didnt ship up to 10 million defect 360. and if they did something about it..but they didnt at all.trust me if you have a 360 it will most liikely die out in one year.even the elite 360 is crapping out on people..so far there is no revision of the 360 that would put a stop to the RROD.. i wouldnt want to deal with defective console gamestop made the right decision..and only microsoft is to blame..
rrod= aids will always be around
360 warranty was only 90 days . if you wany to go beyoned that you will havr to extended it with either: 1)retailers 2)microsoft BUT..BUT..microsoft extended the warrenty to 3 [email protected] years. SO no one need to extend the warrenty beyoned it. that is why they saw no bussiness with it and stoped it
Wow, you Sony fangirls really are desperate to plant any sort of 360 negativity in people's minds. Let's think logically, shall we? Microsoft recognized that there was a problem how long ago? Haven't they added heatsinks and a smaller microchip? Why on Earth would they continue selling a design that they know may cause problems and add to their repair costs? It doesn't make sense. Some people on here actually said that the problem will never go away. Granted, there will always be times when any console will go bad in individual instances, but as far as mass breakdowns of the 360, it would appear that the problem is already starting to go away. Some of you people are truly pathetic.
With Microsoft. Its GAMESTOP.
While I agree with the essence of what your saying, (and I think that this is just Gamestop removing a sales option that there is little interest in since MS extended their warranty) your putting some spin on it too. "Microsoft recognized that there was a problem how long ago? Haven't they added heatsinks and a smaller microchip? Why on Earth would they continue selling a design that they know may cause problems and add to their repair costs? It doesn't make sense." MS didn't 'recognize' there was a problem long ago, they 'admitted' to it. If you don't think they knew there was a problem long before they extended the warranty you are naive. Which also says 'yes' they did continue to sell a design with known problems. Also, while they are fixing RROD boxes with larger heatsinks they are not adding smaller chips. What you have to also realize is how much of the old stock of RROD potential Xboxs are still out there on the shelves and in stock? There was never a recall and a whole lot of them shipped and have yet to be sold. It will be awhile before this problem goes away, hense the 3 year extension.
While i agree, that MS is trying to do something about it (the RROD), i definitely DO NOT believe that it is fixed. And for all those people that believe that MS' repair center fix of adding a heatsink is fixing the problem. Well i got my 3rd 360 back on July 20-somthing and from the get-go it has been freezing up and disc read erroring like crazy. I am going to send it back in Nov, so i will be on my 4th 360! So the problem is not fixed!
@Blitzed - "MS didn't 'recognize' there was a problem long ago, they 'admitted' to it. If you don't think they knew there was a problem long before they extended the warranty you are naive. Which also says 'yes' they did continue to sell a design with known problems." -- I actually agree with you. No, I'm not naive, I should've said "publicly recognized", but I didn't realize that we'd have to get this technical. I'm sure they were in denial for a while that something was wrong, however the problem became too big to ignore and they were forced to acknowledge it. But what I was trying to say is, why would they keep selling a faulty design after they acknowledged it? To believe that they would keep selling them the way they were would be naive. "Also, while they are fixing RROD boxes with larger heatsinks they are not adding smaller chips. What you have to also realize is how much of the old stock of RROD potential Xboxs are still out there on the shelves and in stock? There was never a recall and a whole lot of them shipped and have yet to be sold. It will be awhile before this problem goes away, hense the 3 year extension." -- The heatsinks are enough to protect the motherboard, and when the new microchips come out - which they are - that will help too. I'm sure that there are still faulty Xboxes out there, but not every single manufactured 360 is going to break. Not every box was produced on the same assembly line, by the same manufacturer, with the same exact parts. I've had my 360 since February '06. I had to have a new disc drive put in because of a consistent "disc read error", but other than that, it is perfect. And I put it through the ringer sometimes. But if a 360 will break, that is what the 3 year warranty is for. If it's going to break, it will go within the first 3 years.
comedians lol Americans always have unreliable hardware thats why the Japanese are so much better than us at well EVERYTHING cars toys machines period thats why m$ will fail because they went to the roots on us with the 360
To say 'I'm sure they were in denial for a while that something was wrong,'. Denial?! There is a big difference between denying there is a problem and being 'in denial'. Like I said, if you don't think they knew there was a problem long before they extended the warranty you ARE naive. MS is not stupid. They knew there was a problem and also knew to acknowledge it would be very expensive and would hurt sales. They were not in 'denial'. They hid the truth and continued to sell faulty consoles. That said, I am not here to bash MS, most large corporations would have probably done the same, its money that drives decisions, not morals or values. Then you say... 'To believe that they would keep selling them the way they were would be naive.' No it wouldn't since they ARE still selling them, they may not be shipping them but they are selling them (again hence the 3 year extension on the warranty). Finally you write... 'I've had my 360 since February '06. I had to have a new disc drive put in because of a consistent "disc read error", but other than that, it is perfect.' LOL! So other than it was faulty it was perfect! I think its you that may be in denial. If I was selling you a new car and said "Hey, it has a manufacturing defect, its probably going to break down, but it has a 3 year warranty." Would you buy it? If your answer is yes, I have a car... I should add I have had a 360 for over a year.
I dont think ms has anything to do with this its Gamestops Decision .
The extended warranty offered by best buy and gamestop are totally separate from the warranty MS offers. Everyone knows that places like bestbuy and gamestop usually makes tons off of their warranties. I wouldn't be surprised if gamestop found their warranties to be more of a liability then a cash cow in this situation.
This would deter the remaining potential x360 purchasers. I hope MS changes the decision Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply socomnick - 6 Minutes ago PM Track Ignore2 - I dont think ms has anything to do with this its Gamestops Decision .
Retailers lose money on defective products since they risk having the customer come back, wanting to replace it with a working unit. This is probably cost them, as well as other retailers, a lot of money for something that they have no control over. It's bad for us since Microsoft only helps with RROD issues (the majority of all problems, but it's not everything), and I can understand why they're doing this.
Is there any other problems the 360 has had other than the RROD? One more did Sony eventualy fix the problems of the PS2? so to assume to problem isn't resolved is well... cosidering people are still buying the 360 more and it's games.
Go to the Gamespot xbox 360 forum and there are over 5k posts. Most are red ring issues but there are plenty of ones that are not.
This is 2007. Bringing up an issue from seven years ago isn't going to magically make the RROD issue (which has been around for two years) magically go away. You act as if saying "PS2 had laser issues" totally negates Microsoft's f*ckup, which it doesn't. Sony got sued, paid handsomely, and even publicly admitted that they had put a low-quality DVD drive into the PS2. This is why they were willing to spend $130 per system for the highest-quality Blu-ray drives; they new that buying low-cost components and shoddy manufacturing may save money in the short run, but can damage both reputation and finances further down the road. The PS3, when it was launched, cost over $400 more to manufacture than the Xbox 360, and while the PS3 has a defect rate of around 0.1%, the Xbox 360 has a defect rate of 30%. Sony learned from their mistakes; Microsoft didn't. The Xbox had a similar issue, though not as widespread, and luckily both my PS2 and Xbox didn't suffer from any issues. "cosidering people are still buying the 360 more and it's games." The 360 had a great September thanks to Halo. Um...that's about it. Sony's catching up to their 5 million unit lead (which used to be an 8 million unit lead back in January), and Nintendo's creaming the both of them from a hardware standpoint (though not a software one). Consumers love their PS3s, and its popularity is definitely spreading. Now that the console finally has a reasonable price tag of $399, I don't see how it won't have a great holiday season, especially with all the great titles either already released or pending for release. BTW, you guys should seriously consider getting Ratchet and Clank: Future. This game is too tight to pass up!
and cant wait to get r+C but we have to wait till the 9th
Jason, just to be clear with you, the Xbox 360 has had no other problems besides the "red ring of death". And since DJ is a loyal Sony fan, that's why he replied to you in such a manner.
I bought my 360 a month before my boss bought his PS3. This was in August. He got his in September. His PS3 crapped out two weeks ago. Not that I'm saying Sony manufactures shoddy pieces of equipment, but I think a lot of this is seeing what we want to see, and nothing more. (also known as fanboyism)
..should give everybody that buys an XBOX 360 a 3 year replacement plan on anything that goes wrong with it. There is no excuse for how faulty their console has been.
has been overrun by Sony fanatics. Notice how this is a 360 thread but the majority of people commenting on it are the Sony extremists. As well as disagreeing with all the posts. If you read the text Gamestop doesn't offer "their" warranty. But the "Microsoft" warranty is still in effect. If the consoles break Microsoft will still fix them. They just need to be mailed to Microsoft and not taken to Gamestop. I know it must get your panties in a bunch to hear any type of news that might lead to Microsoft failing. No matter how much you harp on the 360 it won't change the fact that PS3 sales are tanking, and the PS3 is still in third. Personally I don't care who wins the console war. I just support the system that has the most games. That is why I went with the 360. Last gen I had a PS2 as well as an Xbox. Sometimes this website is too funny. It is also amusing that the only weapon that Sony fanboys ever have for logic or reason is the disagree button. Or to resort to personal attacks. They usually resort to name calling because they lack the ability to respond with a valid argument so they will usually resort to childish name calling. For those who don't know where the disagree button is, it can be found to the bottom right......Press away.
of course man thats the rational of fanboyism, Its no different then 360 fanboys posting in sony bad news articles. And its funny how the sonyfanboys are like what are you 360 fanboys doing here? we never go into anti 360 threads!
The bit were you say" Reality must be a [email protected]" And then "I don't care who wins the console war" First off there Bloodsucka What in the blue hell is a batch ? Second You don't care who wins the console war!! Yeah like you say this site is too funny!! WHAT you tryin to crack a joke there Bloodpiles!! Third Please tell me how do i become a big bad dumm fanboy like you cause i'm tryin(on purpose)but not like you!! Your a natural and your so full of sh1t
not finding enough PS3 negative articles or blogs today and need to do some b*tchin?? take a nap!!
bloodass O YEA RIGHT why don't you say that over and over again in your head so you can start to believe that hourse sh!t you just pulled out your mouth
Are you kidding me? Look, some words should not be used. I mean, radical-religion based terrorism...you know, people who kill other people, should be called "extremists". But please don't use that word in regards to videogames. Take a peek outside of that fake world you're in, brah, 'cuz you're losing your sense of reality.----12
Shut up and go plug in your cheap HD addon and watch a movie... or play HALO IN 640p... The reason gamestop stopped is beacuse the amount of Junkbox's they've had to deal with. IT IS AN UNREAL NUMBER BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECALLED IN A NORMAL COMPANY... NOT JUST TONS OF MONEY THROWN DOWN KNOWING THEY WOULD BE BREAKING 5 YEARS AFTER BEING RELEASED. You think you're smart but you're obviously just a poor little fanboy too... I'm glad you don't care who's gonna win the console wars because you the junkbox and your little HD add on are goin to lose... Keep up the hilarious threads though... I think your funny... and probally a 14 year old bratty little boy who already thought he bought the best system and is MAD BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE LIKE SONY ON THE WEBSITE HE'S ON... BOO HOO HOO HOOO. HAHAHA . Grow some balls or go to another siute because its goin to be this way for a longggggg time HAHA BLOODBATH AND BALDESTAR IS THE SAME PERSON SERIOSULY THEY ARE!
youre calling someone a dog, when u eat your own vomit and have 4 paws yourself
well blood mask you goto the sony boards with nothing but fanboy lies so why are you crying about the sony fans here speaking the truth the 360 has had a rrod problem since launch day and it took ms a while before they went from 90 days to 3 years they didn't do it for you. they did it because the lawyers said you better protect your self from law suits ms did to protect them selves from losing more money in lawsuits .not for 360 customers but there bottom finacial line
lol gamespot is runned by M$ fanboys and M$.
Your number 1 gaming store.
HAHA. Great prices, I'll give you that. But selection?? Pffft. Great pizza though. =]
Micromart's disease commonly known as rroD. http://www.joystiq.com/2007... This is easily fixed with a *replacement plan. Consult your doctor to see if a replacement plan is right for you. Side affects may include bloody diahrrea, popping neck veins, use of the words "what the fvck?", unconrtollable angst, 10 minute long proafanity laced rants, thrown controllers, another call to MS customer service, overuse of bath towels and buyer's remorse. Do not take the MS replacement plan if you are already using a console which doesn't require frequent replacement plan drug use or experience any of the aforementioned side affects. ============================= ======================= *The MS Replacement Plan - expect wonders.
Nice to have someone on the Sony side who loves to argue, DJ's good but hes been off game latly. Lets see if we can get you back up to 5, Xbox fans if you love the heated arguments and fun, trash talking, fanboy in your face gamer hardcore post then give the man a bubble.
thanks Jason I've been pretty busy lately and my nights are filled / GT5 WH or Everyday Shooter or more work! Anyway man I'm really coming out against Gamestop on this one more than anything. They have a company wide policy it seems to move the PS brand to the back of everyone's mind and if they're feeling a little pain because of the MS camp, then so be it...karma is an amazing thing.
Like i'v said ther is Xbox 360 news for PS3 fanboys and ther is Xbox 360 news for 360 fans. Depending on who's posting the news its a Green or Red light to bash. Its too bad 360 fans don't have people posting PS3 news for xbox fans on a regular basis as if we really care whats going on with PS3 when PS3 news isn't praising the PS3 at the 360's expense, no one cares about PS3 news when the news does not envolve the 360 praising PS3 bashing the 360. Nothing wrong with the news itself why would GS pay when MSFT will, adressing the probelm that GS shouldn't have to. #11, People get a 3 year warrenty for free. lol
"well lets see how much more money we can lose by making sure that absolutly NOONE will ever buy our 360's ever again." -Gamestop ps.-just in time for Christmas ----------------------------- -------------------------- lol.
Everyone seems to have misdirected their outrage toward MS, but you should be angry at Gamestop, all retailers actually, because why are they selling product replacement plans you'll never use? RROD gave me a chuckle today because it never impacted sales & now retailers are having to actually PAY UP for all those useless replacement plans they've conned us into believing we actually need. Go RROD! I long for the days before I had to decline a product replacement plan for every item in my cart! Cashier: $4.99 for a 2 year replacement plan on this Me: It's a friggen Snickers bar that I'm going to eat on my way across the parking lot to my car!
Cashier: $4.99 for a 2 year replacement plan on this Me: It's a friggen Snickers bar that I'm going to eat on my way across the parking lot to my car! lmfao... ...still lmfao... ...okay,im done.thats funny. im going to ask for a replacement plan next time i get some candy dood.
THE 360 IS COSTING RETAILERS MONEY!!! do you think that gamestop or anyone else is going to keep losing money just because microsoft can't get there act strate? ofcourse not, thats the american way make as much money as you can and let the losers AKA microsoft fall to the waste side. but ofcourse the xlosers are gonna cry and whine about this because you can't cry to gamstop about your 360 breaking down anymore awwwwww poor baby ahahahahahah xloser sony would never have this problem in a million years because unlike microsoft sony is focused on innovation and the industry as a whole microsoft is just focused on trying to beat sony. microsoft and there fanboys are weak the achiles heel of the industry sony and we sonymen are the backbone and strong arm
This won't really afect 360 sales, but it' still funny that the world's biggest game store is even saying they won't replace it anymore cause it's almost guaranteed to crap out
i beg to differ.with Christmas right around the corner thousands of people will be getting new 360's.now they have 2 choices.1)buy it from Gamestop w/out a replacement plan 2)buy from a different retailer and get a replacement plan.this will affect Gamestop's sales very dramaticaly!
it looks like buyin the xbox360 at gamestop is out of the question..microsoft losing more money confirmed..ship all the dead 36o to them
These are Gamestop specific replacement plans you morons. Nothing to do with the MS 360 warranty. They always have rip-off double coverage plans like this. This probably had to do with losing money on the plans since so many units die and MS having a 3 year warranty anyways. And RROD isn't fixed yet since there's still no 65nm GPUs, which were the overheating problem to begin with, but it is less likely to occur now. Plus the 10 million existing units aren't just magically fixed now that the new ones are less likely to die.
That chip isn't the only thing that MSFT is working on with Toshiba to work on heat issues. They also use better & stronger solder etc. To be honest you don't know jack about what they could be doing to fix the problem further than what they said they would do already and we'll never know the extent of it when it comes to things that has not been talked about. If MSFT will pay for RROD why would a GT offer a warrenty when the rrod was the only problem for the most part. unable to read disc and disc scratching is about as common as PS3 disc loader problems.
Smells like pay back for the dev exposing the PS3 for what it is. The Dev talking about PS3 had some of you looking for something to get even non stop and this is all you could come up with.
Absolutely ,whatever makes you sleep bad at night lol!
the warranty only covers r.r.o.d from microsoft and since this is only one fault of the system you can,t blame gamestop
Now u people can't go replace your system right away... instead u have to wait 4-5 weeks ROFL!!!!
look out Gamestop employees next to go is your dental plan!!! just in time for halloween! cavitee time! lol!
Damn that thing must be serious Xbox 360 Failure rate within 1 year of purchase date 33% within 1-3 years of purchase date 66% after 3 years of purchase date 100% Ha Ha Ha it's funny and at the same time pathetic that MS gets away with this kind of behavior. there are industry standard and rules regarding failing rate on electronic products, and it's not because they trying to beat competition that they should bring mediocre product on the market.
have all the 360's fixed for up to 3 years, why in the heck would gamestop STOP selling warranties that they don't have to honour because microsoft is paying. Its obvious that if Microsoft can get out of paying for it, they will. Might as well make the extended waranty companies pay for it (thats what its for) for the dopes that bought it, and the rest they will have to fix or eles have a major problem/lawsuit on their hands.
when MS really fix rrod (IF they fix it) they will be already releasing their new xbox (IF they stay in the console business) and the 360 will be out of support.
3 year is long enough for them to release the new xbox if they decided to do so.. i think they probaly will get the hell out of there because they not making money at all. Microsoft have deep pockets this is the reason why losing billion of dollars and their still here..
I work at gamestop and we still sell warrantees for 360, matter of fact I was just trying to sell a warranty to a costumer from work but he knew that Microsoft extended thier warranty. Edit- I just called my boss and he said we still offer the deal but we not suppose to tell them about it, we can only give the warranty if they ask !
How can you sell a product to someone, where you know it will break? Do you not have no soul? lol
Funny... And we are still talking about RROD? I still have not seem the falcon with RROD... as matter of fact.. never an epidemic of HDMI enable xbox 360 getting RROD... then again... here is something you all should know from now... No matter what... even if there is not one case of RROD... Sony fanboys such as DJ.. they will never shut up about... RROD gives them hope... what else can they attack the xbox 360 about? Games? Online service? Price? The fact is that you do not need to buy warranty from retail stores.. when you can always get the warranty from microsoft directly... If I am not mistaking it only cost like $60 for another extra 2 years of warranty from microsoft... So, why pay retail stores.. when you can just get it directly from the manufacturer? I personally never had a RROD and I have 2 xbox 360... I'm not going to jump on the sony fanboys on this one.. since everyone needs hope... RROD give them some.. it's bad enough that xbox 360 get the best games and the PS3 gets cheap ports and delays and cost more money... So, let them enjoy the RROD stories...
one of them from release day. They both work perfectly. I have spent many weekends playing games for hours. I did 10 hrs on Forza 2 last saturday. So much for over heating.
UHHHH excuse me i can think of 10 things to make fun of the 360 about first off you have a crappy controller and they had to redesigne first xbox controller because they were so insecure about the way it looked. but they still manedged to put out crap with the 360 number 2 360 doesn't come with the hddvd itself you have to buy an add on which is around 200$ which i think is funny because it shows how much confidence microsoft has in the HDDVD brand and it also shows how cheap they are. number 3 online you have to pay for xbox live and really this is also funny because in my book anyone who pays to have friends and play online is a sucker. and you have about 7 million suckers on the xbox 360 and it really shows how much integrity and brain power you 360 fans have. theres know princpules with you, you have know drawed lines. microsoft just steps all over you and you think its grand 4th the 360 has know casual or kid games 5th the 360 has a none diverce or compelling game selection 6th the 360 is lacking in innovation and this is something that sony had and has no problem with. little big planet eye of judgment locoroco eye toy cell rsx blu ray shadow of the colossus twisted metal ico folklore all of these things were done to puch and prepell them industre foward as a whole and thats something microsoft has never done in this bussnises. 7th the microsoft has never and i mean never sold 100million units 2 times in a row it's all about the sales it really tells you what people think about your console adn the sales of the ps1 aand ps2 show that people favor sony then boring and weak old microsoft 8th microsoft UNDER HANDED AND DEVIOUS 9th microsoft is failing in eu and japan and 10th WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF IT TOGATHER THE HEADSET THE HDDVD DRIVE AND THE XBOX LIVE THE 360 COSTS 60 $ MOORE THEN THE PS3!!!! from where i'm standing it sounds like you getting screwed
Read my post 37. I seen a RROD in the wild.......... on 10/26/2007. lol
360 is garbage..the d-pad goes bunk after about 6 months, starts to stick and not respond very well anymore. I've seen this happen on 3 controllers. Kinda makes changing weapons a little iffy...JUNK hardware with good games.
This site's been overrun with fanboys on both sides, and I don't respect a single one of them. From an objective viewpoint (and having gone through 3 360's myself), I'm only surprised that Gamestop is JUST NOW doing this. It's pretty messed up when the main store that targets the gaming community stops having enough faith in a console to stop offering their PRP's. Look, I know the RROD is old news, and it will be brought up for years to come, whether we like it or not. From what I hear, it's getting fixed, as it should be. I just wish somebody would tell the fanboys on both ends to STFU with their @sshole fanboy comments and their sweaty, mouth-breathing habits of pissing everyone off. I can't go on ANY gaming site anymore without bombardment of fanboys....with their cheeto-cheese-powder encrusted sausage fingers and endless empty bottles of bawls and lack of deodorant. Fanboys are embarassments to humanity and should be dealt with accordingly