Brink Reviewers bought the wrong game?

SG: Brink was unquestionably the best game I played last year at PAX, and I’ve been looking forward to it ever since. I bought it on Steam last night, less than an hour after it was available. Yep. I got the PC version… you know, the platform made for first-person shooters.

[NYC_Gamer]

we have to stop expecting everyone to like a game just because we enjoy it

[MidnytRain]

I don't think anyone, save for a few of us, will ever understand that.

[JsonHenry]

I can almost understand where he is coming from. I HATED Team Fortress 2 on the Xbox. If that were the only platform that I played it on I would swear the game was horrible.

However, I have it on Steam.. and the game is fantastic. But just because I love it I don't expect everyone else to love it.

[RankFTW]

I hated TF2 when it first came out on PC but now I have 700 hours on medic alone :D.

[callahan09]

The critics did the same to MAG. Games that truly shine when people get together and act as a team and support each other through the various skills afforded by the different classes as only a balanced team can have... those games are games that critics just don't appreciate.

[Saladfax]

I'd say what turns me off most about Brink is that it sounds like a watered-down version of TF2, less polished, less balanced, more expensive, and containing less content.

Sure, TF2 only had 7 or so maps when it was first released, but it also only cost 20 bucks, less if you got it in the Orange Box. Nowadays, it only costs 10 and has fifty times as much content.

I'm not saying TF2 is super ungodly amazing, but the price to polish/content/everythingelse ratio reaaaaally favors one of the two.

[superrey19]

@salad
Its not fair to compare the two since tf2 has been out for years and has had hundreds of updates to improve it. I really like brink but i wish they added more multiplayer modes. I know they want people to play as a team but some good ol fashioned deathmatch wouldnt hurt. Unfortunately brink wont have the amount of post release support that valve gave tf2.

[frostypants]

MAG had legitimate issues that had nothing to do with the team aspects. For me, it looked and *felt* like a last-gen FPS (didn't like the controls, weapons seemed generic, felt unpolished), and the awesome team aspects weren't enough to counter that for me.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

We have to stop hating games because others hate it. And team fortress 2 is a watered down version of RTCW. Brink plays just like Return to castle wolfenstien on the Xbox and pc.

[Greywulf]

Fun is one thing. Enjoying, thats another. You can have fun with anything guys.. even a ball & cup. But its different if the ball & cup was lead on to be something spectacular. Its not. "AMAZING" new footage "BREATHTAKING" blah blah, brink was littered with this stuff.

Brink had a bit of hype surrounding it. Its failing to meet up to its performance/next gen mp engine boasting, and overall expectations. Mainly, by its own developer and the 360 audience trumpeting it as a reason to not care about Killzone3... This and Bulletstorm are all just quick cash ins, but at least bulletstorm performed well. Brink would have been received as yet another just sheer "well its fun!" type title.

Reviewers are grading it for what the developers claimed it would be, and it fell short. Like how Gt5 was killed for not delivering on its claims fully.

[AlaDouche]

Mmmmm, I don't think so. I think this game delivered exactly what it promised. Whether or not people held it higher than what they were explaining is something else entirely.

This game is exactly what it wanted to be. Granted that's not everyone's cup of tea, and I totally understand that, but if I'm a reviewer, I'm not going to grade a game down because I'm not interested in this certain type of game.

[-Mezzo-]

I am getting this game regardless of Reviews, because according to the Videos it looks like something i would enjoy.

[KDubyah]

That's my opinion about the game, as well ..
I loved the way the game looked, so I bought it.
That's for many of other games, just as well. :)

[mrv321]

They where sold the wrong game, they where expecting more singleplayer, they didn't get it. I think if they seperated he single and multiplayer so you are so reliant on your team this is a solid 8/10 game. However the singleplayer seems to be last thing they worked on and didn't really do anything.

[TheDivine]

I was expecting a solid singleplayer and im darn dissapointed because it couldve been amazing. Now il just rent it as im not big on multi.

[KeiserSosay4788]

I've been playing the PC version non-stop(except right now) and I can't believe some of the scores it has received. Maybe reviews should include ALL versions of the game before consumers decide not to play this game based off of primarily bad console reviews.

[Chaos69]

90% of reviewers, reviewed the console version and that version is (from what I've heard) pretty unfinished.
So it's Bethesda's fault for not giving the devs more time to polish their game.

[N4g_null]

yeah the game is pretty sick. I'm loving every thing about it so far. You can play it like an old FPS but it's much better as a team game.

[NeoTribe]

A bad game is a bad game. Just cuz pc looks better dont make it play better.

[MysticStrummer]

Many people are enjoying it. It's possible that your opinion about what makes a game good or bad isn't the only viewpoint in the world.

[badz149]

"A bad game is a bad game" - your claim is based on what? IGN review? I bet you haven't play the game at all yet believe the negative reviews!

I'm not saying it's good or bad as I haven't play it either but seems like it's getting mix reviews which means the game is either a hit or a miss with the gaming crowd. so...concluding it as a BAD game is just plain wrong!

[mamotte]

A bad gamer is a brand gamer

[Dead_Cell]

Pointclick2win lol.

[sickbird]

the game is alot of fun, visual bugs and lag are the only thing that sucks. i have the 360 version but i hear the pc version runs fine.

[Seijoru]

Actually runs pretty bad. I can run Crysis 2 on max at 30+ fps but with Brink I'm lucky if I hit 25fps.

[N4g_null]

Take the motion blur off and reboot and you'll be fine.

[shayol33t]

people have been reporting issues with shadows as well, like a 50% fps increase in turning off building shadows or smthn like that. Patch should fix that though

[newn4gguy]

Not a huge fan.

It's WAAAAAAAAAY too slow. It's like TF2 for stoners.

[antz1104]

Actually this is nothing like TF2....at all. It has classes but more like Quake Wars.

[newn4gguy]

As an avid TF2 and TF:C fan...I'm gonna go with...yes, it is.

Why are the characters so slow though? The previews made it look so much faster!

[antz1104]

Are you using a light body type? They move pretty quick, I just avoid them because they get shredded, QUICKLY.

[newn4gguy]

I tried the light body, but it's still too slow for me. Of course, I was playing the 360 version. I imagine the PC version is faster?

[frelyler]

Have not played the game, but when he said it's not Call of Duty 20 I laughed my ass off.

[Clarence]

Its the right game its just crap.

[Rybakov]

im really enjoying it lots of fun....brings back the good old memories of Counter Strike and Shadowrun....reminds me how online gaming should be

[MysticStrummer]

I bought it despite the reviews and I'm glad I did. This generation more than any other has shown me how worthless reviews can be.

[shayol33t]

I have been playing the pirate singleplayer for practice while I wait for my copy to arrive in the mail in a few days.. having the time of my life (silly bots at times though :P)

[MysticStrummer]

Yeah it's a lot of fun. Brink could be big among people who actually enjoy playing as a team online.

[NateCole]

This is the problem with articles from Sarcastic gamer. I don't know if they are bing sarcastic or not.

[AlaDouche]

I'm going to take that as a..... compliment!

:P

[S_C]

Im in the Uk and the game is out tommorow but with such diffrent reviews i really dont know what to do hmmmm....... any impressions of the game you guys wish to share. Hows the LAG online on the 360 ?

[Falaut]

I rented this game on Tuesday Morning at about quarter after 10 (PS3 Ver). After 3.5 hrs of playing it I had %41 trophies unlocked...

there is a point to this.

This game should've been a XBLA PSN downloadable title at its current state. Its not bad by a long shot, in fact I find it quite enjoyable. But as I play it I can't shake the feeling of "that's it?" What is scary to me is that this game is currently $60, and within about 2 hours you feel like you know NOW what to expect in 30 hours. Yet here and there you are told that "this is just the beginning..." and so on. So what is Bethesda planning to do? I hope its not PAID DLC for the remaining 2/3rds of the game. Now if they release some DLC for all the people that bought the game new for free, thats a different story.

Final thoughts: this game should've been $20.

[shammgod]

Its a great game...funny to watch all of these robots echoing the reviews when they have never played it...

[blackburn10]

Just like Homefront the excuses just keep on coming. Not everyone thinks it's that great of a game. It gotten quite a few average scores. You don't have to run around crying your eyes out because of that. If it were any other game it would have been torn to shreds by everyone for average scores.Just play it if you want and stop writing blogs and articles everyone how stupid they are for not liking it.

[Ser]

"Just play it if you want and stop writing blogs and articles everyone how stupid they are for not liking it."

Opposing opinions are allowed, no? Should we tell all of the people that are giving the game bad scores to "stop writing" about it?

[blackburn10]

No problem but what is with the 'Brink reviewers played the wrong game' ? That is a difference of opinion? They just didn't like it. End of story. No need to bring down other reviews just to make yours look good. Like you said, their opinions.

[PrimordialSoupBase]

"There are four classes in Brink, but there's a disappointing lack of definition between them. Due to the nature of Brink’s maps, classes require constant changing. One objective might need repairs from an Engineer, while another might have a Medic heal a VIP. But classes don’t really play differently. I was often confused when I couldn’t drop a turret only to remember I was a Soldier, a class with a different set of skills. There’s not much of a chance to pick and master a favorite class.”

Classes aren't defined enough but are too defined because you can't do a class-specific task. Just f*ck off IGN.

[SpLinT]

games for real gamers will be hated by the casual scrub reviewers who play 10000 different games a year for 1 hour each.

[BigBoss07]

And you sir just summed up the words "Mass Media" in a nutshell. "applause"

[Tapioca Cold]

A Demo would help me decide. I am listening to you "the gamer" and the review scores.

I wanted this game but the reviews are terrible. Everyone says it's fun but I don't trust you.

Sorry.

[madjedi]

$60 price tag, no actual campaign, sorry killzone 2 or 3's botzone with cutscenes is not a real single player campaign, if you think otherwise seek help.

People are bringing up mag, there is a big difference mag made it perfectly clear it was a mp only game, something this game should have said. Whether they intended to or not, this looks like they lied about or a tricked some gamers into believing it would be a normal sp/mp game. Most gamers are not going to read every tiny detail about a upcoming title, unless they are obsessed with it.

For spending $60 most gamers are expecting a single player campaign not offline multiplayer with cutscenes, that and the fact that this really should have been 39.99 at most is probably where alot of the resentment/hate comes from.

I loved mag but anyone charging 59.99 for an online only shooter, is being unrealistic and a bit stupid, mag should have released at 39.99 like warhawk was, why sony charged 59.99 who knows.

Now if it is worth your $60 great, but it might not be worth $60 for others, me included.

@tapioca 1up or ign summed it perfectly for me, if you want a good single player campaign/experience look else where.

Try reading what actual gamers on gamefaqs forums ect are saying not just reviews, think about the game's good points and the bad ones. If your still not sure look up some more websites till you have a decision one way or another, no gamer can really truly tell you if you'll like it or not.

And you can probably pick it used from amazon for 40-45 depending on the platform

[TukkerIntensity]

so let me get this right.

paying $60 is acceptable for a SP only game.
paying $60 is acceptable for a SP+MP game.
paying $60 is however not acceptable for a MP game, with SP bot play and 8 player co-op.

got it.

[madjedi]

Depends on the person and the game, for a mmo like dc universe online is one thing, a 60 multiplayer only shooter, that was too lazy to bother making an actual single player campaign to me hell no.

How exactly is the 8 player coop any different than team deathmatch against bots really?

Since it's the same maps with just randomized objectives.

Sony could release killzone 4 with bot zone with cutscenes and 8 player coop maps against ai bots or human opponents. Would you really consider that worth $60? Like i said above worth 60 imo hell no, 40 maybe.

Mag is the only mp only game i paid $60 for and will likely be the last as well.

[BenEViolent]

Topic is hit bait.

[Killzone3___]

singularity and other games got alots of bad scores but i played them and liked them , scores and reviews doesn't mean anything , alots of reviewers are sucks and play in a boring way , i always make the gameplay exciting , i try to understand how te gameplay and do everything the gameplay offerd , brink have a fast gameplay which i like , it have alots of weapons and characters ... im sure this game is fun...

[OC_MurphysLaw]

A nice refreshing take by SG. I totally agree...the game isn't for everyone... but it shouldn't get slamned for it either. It may not be a 9 or 10..but its not 6 or lower either on a grade scale. Brink is a solid 8 for me.

[JeffGUNZ]

Yeah, for YOU it's an 8 and for the reviewers it was a 6. It's all opinion. Some people will like it and others won't. I will probably rent this game first, then if it's good, I could purchase it.

[AlaDouche]

I don't have a problem with reviewers not liking a game. My issue came from a common "problem" that most reviewers had, which was that they couldn't figure out how to play as a team and therefor downgraded it.

The game is not perfect. It has it's share of flaws, sure, but it's a brand new IP that's trying to innovate on a HUGELY cookie-cutter genre. The things it does right, it does with flying colors. Seeing reviewers grade it down because they believe they have to change classes to meet the current objective, rather than actually SUPPORTING people who are already that class is ridiculous.

That's why I compared it to Call of Duty, where your "teammates" are just people who aren't trying to kill you. This game requires ACTUAL teamwork to succeed. In that sense, it's not for everyone, but I just think that grading it down because they don't want to play as a team is ridiculous.

Also, the title was changed by an editor from what I had originally titled it. The original title was, "The Brink Reviews Are In....WAT?" Just to those who didn't like the title, I feel like I should throw that out there. :P

[snipes101]

well...I liked shadowrun when that came out and Im loving this now. I don't even like mp that much in games and this does it for me.

[therapist]

it's a pc game also ported to console like many major releases, i know the uninformed of this site love to use terms like console to pc port, which is an oxymoron considering all games are made on pc and PORTED to console, yes even killzone 3 and uncharted 2 were made, laid out, edited, scripted, coded on a pc then ported to console.\

\\and the pc they were made on could have run them better than the ps3....anyway, im getting off track, if i were a game developer i would insist the reviewer use the pc version as it is 97% of the time the absolute best version in everyway.

Better graphics obviously
smoother gameplay/framerate
custom controlls
no jaggies and pop-in everywhere like on 95% of console games\
actually in hd as opposed to the constant lower and lower resolutions devs are forced to use as the try to cram what could run on a mid-range laptop into a console that can only run it at 15 frames per second_____solution??

Drop the resolution and cut the AA....thats the first thing they do

Alan wake 540p
Splinter Cell conviction 576p
Crysis 2 620p
halo 3, reach, odst, 640p
Call of duty blackops, 4, mw2, 5 600p

what happened to hd consoles, none of those 1993 resolutions are hd to me or anyone who actually cares about what goes onto his/her 1080pHD screen