Naughty Dog: Uncharted 2 was a one-off

Speaking to Eurogamer TV about Naughty Dog's magnum opus, game designer Jacob Minkoff said: "Uncharted 2 was a once in a lifetime experience. You can't hope to have such incredible synergy of amazing people working together, creating this genre-defining product."

[Troll_Police]

So true, but if anybody can top it it's the Naughty Godz.

[iamnsuperman]

I can see people being disappointed. Uncharted 2 was a beast but know for Naughty Dog is probably a hindrance. People are expecting perfection. I hope they do improve from Uncharted 2 but I am not going to get hyped just yet. From experience when I get hyped by a game I get disappointed.

[Temporary_Name]

Yeah, I don't think UC3 will be able to top its predecessor even though it will be a great and polished game!

[Gran Touring]

I think it can and will.

[metsgaming]

well its pretty much a guarantee that the reviews will be lower. Doesnt matter if its better then uncharted 2 the average score will be lower. It happened with LBP2, its way better than the first one was and scored way lower. Yes the concept was brand new but it was an improvement and added alot to the game but still scored alot lower.

Anyway this game will be amazing day 1, hopefully collectors edition !

[RedDead]

metsb...it doesn't work like that most of the time, see Portal 2 and well....Uncharted 2.

It's unfortunate but i'm skipping this for a while, BF3 (king of FPS is back) Skyrim, dark souls. I would prefere BF3 for online, and the other 2 will simply give me more play time per euro. While being great(Demons souls was one of my fav games this gen, Morrowind is on of my top games period.)

[rdgneoz3]

@metsb That's the sad thing about some great games. They improve on the previous games in so many ways. yet get shafted in review scores, while other games that are just rehashes of the same thing get high scores.

Anyway, can't wait to see what ND will bring to E3.

[himdeel]

For me the only thing I hated in Uncharted 2 was invisible walls and single paths to an objective in the single player campaign. I always felt like there were multiple climbing routes and paths in a number of sections in the game that a player should have been able to take but couldn't.

I recall several times falling 10 feet in one place in U2 only to die, meanwhile falling 20 feet in another section of the game an live just plain old sucks some of the adventure out of the game. Otherwise I hate invisible walls most when I can see past the wall but cannot move to an area. I rather a place be completely blocked off than be a tease :)

I understand they have to get you to a point to progress the story but with a game like Uncharted I just want to explore everything and climb everywhere...

[Oner]

Uncharted 3's score will do nothing to hinder my enjoyment of it. It's just like any other Mario game, Zelda, Gran Turismo or Street Fighter before it...I play it because I like the game. Not because of a score it has been given by someone I do not know nor care about.

I would only actually be a bit sullen about it if they don't include PS Move compatibility (additionally to the standard controls) with it...but you know they will! ;P

[MerkinMax]

Such a great game that was light years ahead of the competition.

[Heartnet]

True my only doubt is the timeframe in which theve created the game.

Sequels tend to get worse since people will buy it regardless cuz they like the story etc which means they have to develop faster and in effect can slack off since they know it will sell which in turn makes the game suffer :(

[FACTUAL evidence]

UC2 is awesome, uc3 will be nothing short of it.

[starchild]

Uncharted 2 was a truly fantastic game and I am sure that Naughty Dog are working hard on Uncharted 3 trying to surpass what they achieved with Uncharted 2.

I think most of us will be very satisfied as long as our expectations are realistic.

[Rumor]

i hope the 3d wont take away ANY of the games quality...or have ANY reason for NG's to sacrifice ANY features in respect to 3d or im gonna be pissed!

but i have the ultimate faith in the naughty gods, they never let me down. ND FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSE BABY

[NukaCola]

I think that even though Uncharted 3 will be better in every form possible, the media will still bash it. Uncharted 2 came out of left feild and really destoryed the meida with it's perfection, so bad they had nothing to say but positive remarks. I have seen previews and the comments start to flame out a bit. I wouldn't be suprised if Egde said the "shock and awe" of UC2 is gone and this is just another advenutre game - 7/10. But at the same time the online is looking to crush the competion with it's awesome new modes and full customization features. Plus the story and gameplay looks 100X that of UC2. And hearing MP to be as good as SP just makes me happy. I am not looking for a GOTY winner (I see Elder Scrolls getting that regardless, cause it's all the hype) but I am expecting the most intence experience this year with probably the best story in an adventure game and as always another platinum!

[NukaCola]

"metsb...it doesn't work like that most of the time, see Portal 2 and well....Uncharted 2."

But Portal 2 is what Among Thieves was to their first runs. The companies made something unique, then with it's 2nd game, mastered it to perfection. The media crushed down on LBP 2. It got good scores but the critisim was all the same. "Better game in every aspect, but it has no more shock value of originality. Same with Killzone 3 and God of War 3." That kind of merit can't apply. Bioshock 2 was a good game but got gigged for the shock value of Rapture to be gone. Well here is a damn news flash...COD has about as much shock value as Ben Stein and it still gets praise like no other. Double Standards all the way across the game sites.

[rockleex]

"while other games that are just rehashes of the same thing get high scores."

Especially since COD seems to get worse with each iteration, yet gets the same score each time. -_-"

"i hope the 3d wont take away ANY of the games quality...or have ANY reason for NG's to sacrifice ANY features in respect to 3d or im gonna be pissed!"

Actually 3D has allowed Naughty Dog to include splitscreen. >:D

[xAlmostPro]

Agreed.. they want perfection. We all know that review sites will go crazy with low scores if there's even an out of place pixel lol.

[paintsville]

Hype. meh.

[shadowknight203]

UC3 can certainly top UC2. Knowing Naughty Dog they've not only created another great story, but have found greater secrets that unlock the PS3's power so more amazing things can be done. Take split screen for example and the 3D implantation. Sure not many of us are into the 3D realm yet, but if ND says there gonna drop bombs @ E3 (and already so many details have been announced) I know for a fact UC3 will have so much features behind it that it will be the staple trademark game that doesn't just set the bar for this generation of games on a technological level, moreover, sets the bar for the next generation of consoles as well (or for that matter sets the bar for all the newest games in the next few years to follow).

[BlackKnight]

"but have found greater secrets that unlock the PS3's power so more amazing things can be done"

Lol you sound like the PS3 is some artifact in Uncharted. Its 5 year old hardware. Anything that is done is only in the sense of what is being done with it's limits. People really need to play more than one platform.....

[kyl277]

split screen is not something to rave about, you people take fanboyism to the next level

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''Lol you sound like the PS3 is some artifact in Uncharted. Its 5 year old hardware. ''

And still 1st Party devs put in shame most of the 3rd Party Devs when it comes developing on PS3.

[KING85]

I second your opinion, though it may be quite a feat to accomplish. Quick question though, why do people have the need to do the whole "Naughty Dog" "naughty Godz" analogy? I understand the appreciation for the game and the developers; however I always find this analogy strange. Not bashing you, just wondering what was the purpose.

[sourav93]

This is because they are, in most people's opinion, the best ps3 game developer out there. The quality in their games have not (yet) been surpased by any console game. Hence, Naughty Godz.

[FamilyGuy]

I'm pretty much POSITIVE they'll improve anything they CAN improve an make part 3 a better game BUT they "pushed the envelope" so far with UC2 that blowing people away seems impossible.

Some of the set pieces in UC2 are "greatest of all time" worthy, to pull that off again and while still in this generation of consoles would be insane.

But as people keep saying, if anyone CAN do it, it's them. They ARE the pioneers and have helped a bunch of other devs step their game up since UC2. It would only make sense for them to set the bar once more.

[JLeVRT]

UC2 is awesome and tbh... CoD4 was a one off too.

[showtimefolks]

great single player 10-12 hrs
online co-op
a great improvements from uc2 online
graphics as sharp as before or even better

and 10/10 from most sites this game will fix any problems people had with uc2 call it uc 2.5 all you want i fully expect this game to kick some major ass and win goty

its ND we are talking about if anyone can out do uc 2 its them

uc2 was developed in 18 months and that's a fact while uc3 is getting over 2 years imagine the extra 4-6 months

[ajeben809]

I was unaware they had UC3 on a longer development cycle, where did you hear this?

[Reborn]

Well, lets see how they intend to do better than UC2.

[MGRogue2017]

I ❤ Naughty Dog (no homo)

[ilikestuff]

no homo hahaaa! classic

[velocitygamer]

All Homo.

[Rumor]

with all homosexual regards intended my fine fellow.

[bangoskank]

@ ilikestuff

Goes to show the maturity level on here.

[wenaldy]

We are homo sapiens...

[FunAndGun]

ditto (yes homo)

[e-p-ayeaH]

As long their determined to prove they can do better there´s no reason to worry about.

[Prcko]

oh i can't w8,i know that this game gonna be epic

[news4geeks]

Easily the best new IP this gen.

[socomnick]

Mass effect or gears of war easily.

[Redgehammer]

My choice is Mass Effect. However the gloriously looking Uncharted2 is something I will never play. So I am pretty sure my vote does not count.

[lh_swe]

Mass Effect I get, but Gears? Really, I don't in any way think they aren't great...but best new IP, Really!?

I think tbh it's a close call between Mass Effect and Uncharted, all that decides is preference (or bias, as it's known on N4G).

[frostypants]

Funny you should say that. I started playing the Gears 3 beta (got in early b/c I have Bulletstorm) and frankly, the multiplayer in that kind of sucks compared to UC2.

It plays like UC2, but with all the vertical factor removed and an inferior cover system. Not being able to jump off of ledges = freaking stupid. And not being able to jump/climb/hang is a bummer. It seriously feels like some ancient predecessor to Uncharted.

And while the graphics were sharp, everything was just so...brown. Just like Gears 1 and 2.

Gears is painfully overrated. If you played Uncharted 2 you'd agree. I mean, Gears is FUN, and a bit easier to pick up quickly, but in no way superior.

[Colmshan1990]

Sorry boys, but Little Big Planet is an IP that just cannot be ignored.

[starvinbull]

1. littlebigplanet

2. mass effect/uncharted

I would say that UC2 is a better game than either mass effect but as an ip they are both equally great in my opinion.
It's only the genius of Naughty Dog that elevates UC above being a decent action game.

Gears was an inventive new ip that shook things up a bit, but outside of North America trust me, it's no big deal.

Honourable mentions should go to Viva Pinata, Demons Souls, Dead Rising, Assassin's creed and inFamous.

[Mr Tretton]

I think they're gonna top it. But I bet critics are ready to sh*t on U3

[DigitalRaptor]

I kinda agree. I wouldn't go as far as "sh*t on U3", but they will pull excuses out their asses to justify lower scores such as "Too like Indiana Jones" or some shit like that.

Believe me when I say, if Uncharted 2 never existed, and the concept for Uncharted 3 was actually inplemented as the second game in the series, it would still have been lauded much like Uncharted 2 was.

But like you said, people are waiting to find reasons why it's not as good as its predecessor. I hope to see the same 10/10 scores and GOTY nominations for UC3, because with Naughty Dog (and their growing expertise) behind it, it certainly will be in the same league.

[Redgehammer]

Honestly I thinbk the only people that deserve to be critics are people that buy the game, and people that make games. I hold racists in higher regards than I do critics, and I despise racists.

[kyl277]

everyone on earth is a critic in some way

i pity you

[Redgehammer]

Save your pity for someone that needs it, but thanks for your faux concern.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Especially the American Journalism.

[GUYwhoPLAYSvideoGAME]

i hope it can top uncharted 2, I think it can but i'm not sure it will, uncharted 2's story and everything was the best, something about uncharted 2's story is epic even though it's your typical action treasure hunting story. Uncharted 2 currently stands as my favorite media...thing period . . . (three for extra emphasis)

what i'm worried about are critics who could use some criticizes themselves are going to use a dumb rant like that it's just uncharted 2.5 because the game isn't going to be as big as was the jump from the first to the second

[Takoulya]

Uncharted 2's story wasn't very good for me. The way it was presented and the overall atmosphere was incredible, but the story was just a tiny bit too typical.

[meganick]

Yeah, I was underwhelmed by Uncharted 2's story also. But I thought all the other elements of the game were great, especially multiplayer, which ended up being more addictive than I thought it would be.

[Eyeco]

uncharted 2 's story is pretty generic to say the least, but what it lacks in originality its story makes up in likeable , 3 dimensional characters and superb voice acting easily the best in gaming,
games like ME have great complex stories but bland, cartoony characters with mediocre voice acting

[GUYwhoPLAYSvideoGAME]

I know, that's what i meant by it being a typical treasure hunting action story. but it's like you said it was presented really well.

by epic i mean, well it just was, by the time you got to shambala, dunno, it was just cool

[tigertron]

Uncharted 2 wasn't a one off, what about Uncharted 1? that was equally as good in my opinion. Lack of multiplayer aside, it was definatly my joint GOTY 2007 with RFOM.

[Colmshan1990]

I love Uncharted 1 and Resistance 1, but I can't agree with GOTY 2007. Resistance came out in 06 anyway.
But as for Uncharted in 07? That was the year Oblivion came out on PS3, Portal 1, Mass Effect 1 and Bioshock were released on PC and Xbox, Super Mario Galaxy on Wii, God of War 2 on PS2, and Call of Duty 4 came out on everything.
Other notable releases that year (but not on the level of those mentioned above) were The Orange Box, Halo 3, Crysis, Phantom Hourglass, Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, Unreal Tournament 3, Tomb Raider Anniversary, and Warhawk.
In other words, as Sinatra put it, It Was A Very Good Year.

[tigertron]

Well, it was my GOTY because it came out in 2007.

I agree, I think 2007 had alot of great games, it had some strong contenders but my favourite was Uncharted and RFOM.

[Roozium]

"creating this genre-defining product."

Nah bro.

[NarooN]

U mad bro?

[frostypants]

What IS the defining game in the genre, then? Don't dare say Gears. Read my post up-thread.

[Colmshan1990]

Tomb Raider 1.
The first game in that genre to make it big is surely the genre-defining one.
Although Uncharted 2 is the best game in the genre, Tomb Raider built that genre.

[smashman98]

my friends say the same thing but i always tell my friends that they are to totally different games the only similarity is that the two characters are acrobatic treasure hunters

tomb raider is more of a puzzle platformer with some mindless action

while uncharted is more of an action platformer with some puzzles and to be honest i'd say both didnt define the genre but they definitely redefined it

[younglj01]

November 2, 2011 headlines

Is Uncharted 3 Too Beautiful for Gamers to Enjoy?
Uncharted 3 Still looks Like Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3 Fails to Capture tha Power of tha PS3

I know its early but just looking to have some random internet fun please reply with your own UC3 headlines please ;)

[Chaostar]

Oooo fun,

er...

Uncharted 3 Thinks It's Better Than You
Uncharted 3, great game, but will it blend?
Uncharted 3 disc makes a rubbish frisbee
Uncharted 3 contains 1000 palm trees but only 400 are premium

[younglj01]

"Uncharted 3 contains 1000 palm trees but only 400 are premium"

Is that a dig at tha ppl complaing about GT5 if so classic ;) and a bubble

[wenaldy]

LOL, I love your GT5 reference..

[sasuke99]

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Kojima-san made MGS series and he never for once said something to brag or price himself or his creations same goes to Miyamoto and Mikami...

but ND...they disgust me!