A look at some of the worst examples of over-promising and under-delivering in the video game industry.
Announced in 2020, Playground Games' open-world action RPG has seen sporadic updates and departures but still no release date.
I expect it to release by the time the next Xbox releases. Can that be 2026? Sure
You could say the same for any number of games that were stupidly announced during pre-production. Elder Scrolls 6 & Perfect Dark are current examples, Blade is another recent one and in the past Mass Effect Andromeda and Cyberpunk 2077 come to mind.
I don't think this game is in any trouble. For a start, Playground Games are one of the few under MS Studios that actually have a track record of delivering on time and with quality. We got a trailer last year and I'd fully expect there to be something more substantial at the next showcase in the summer.
No dramas here - just another victim of Microsoft's incompetence. They simply had to announce several games way too early because they had nothing else to talk about.
how are they a victim when they are clearly being given enough time? They haven't set any release date, haven't had to show any trailers, how is that being a victim? You even say yourself that you think it's not in trouble.
TESVI was mostly announced to stop people from asking. Like how they gave us a roadmap of first Starfield, then TES then Fallout. So people keep asking whether they'll do another one or not.
But Fable and Perfect Dark was defineately too early.
The same thing that happens to any project when you announce it far too early. Perfect Dark, Fable, The Elder Scrolls 6, Star Wars KOTOR Remake...you actually have to, I don't know, make the game?
I'm fairly confident this game will see the light of day, as Playground have released 5 Forza games of quality and on schedule. Think it was just revealed too early.
The only issue I see is that, as you mentioned, they have only done Forza games. An RPG is completely different requiring completely different facets.
Whole new different open world....not just tracks. Character designs and animations, dialogue, combat systems, quest systems, equipment and inventory managment....the list is very long and none of it falls under their previous experience.
Even with assistance from other studios I believe they are still far off from delivering a complete version of this game.
Project currently codenamed MOAT.
"It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil"
If Phil were the man that made my life miserable, I would vote for him as well.
Regarding the topic, it could be both Peter and Phil working together.
M.O.A.T takes place in Albion, so it´s possible that Pete is working on new partnership with Xbox, which imo, is nothing but great news!
What exactly has Phil mislead about? I can’t wait to hear the verbal diarrhea you come with.
If anyone knows his name you have to be extremely skeptical that what he delivers will be anything like what he says it would be and that’s best case scenario.
I remember Black & White (PC) but other than that I can only think of Fable, B&W was a pretty cool game tho at the time.
Populous was another one designed by Peter, released before B&W, godlike game as well, pretty good too.
"His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?"
The guy is a gaming legend for gamers who actually knows and played his games, like Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Black & White and Fable for example.
I'm certain that most who actually know who he is would contest your use of legend. He's the living, human embodiment of false advertising.
@Becuzisaid
There´s an abyss between false advertisement and bad games.
Most gamers will get excited for games from great gaming creators rather than focus on their exaggerated promises.
Kojima described his Xbox exclusive game as "very unusual like no one has ever experienced before, leveraging the cloud." He said all publishers he presented the project, called him mad and rejected his game but Microsoft, because it´s too crazy.
Is Kojima exaggerating? Obviously. It´s gonna be a bad game? Hardly.
Imagine a game where Peter Molyneux presents an extraordinary set of ideas that players will enjoy for years to come. Now imagine that this particular game will come out because it will never exist.
Baldur's Gate 3 producer Ryan Clark, who worked at Larian Studios for four years, has joined Fable developer Playground Games
Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!
Fable will be fantastic!
I hope to see the following at Microsoft’s June games showcase:
Contraband (3rd party exclusive)
ID Software
Machine Games
The Coalition
Playground
Ninja Theory
The Initiative
Double Fine
Rare
Im sure we won’t see all these studio’s projects but at least 5 of them would be nice.
I’m surprised Gears 6 hasn’t been announced by the Coalition as of yet. Gears 5 released 4 years and the Coalitions hasn’t another AAA title since then, excluding the co-developed Gears Tactics.
Todd hinted at Indiana Jones being at next year's E3.
I heard Contraband is going through some sorta rework. I don't really have much hope for that game at this point in time.
Btw Gears 6 is in full development they took time away to learn Unreal Engine 5. Yeah... If we're going off of Immortals Of Aveum performance. They have allot of work ahead of them.
Not even accurate though. They haven't made a single RPG yet. Starfield is barely an RPG as it is...there's no role picking unlike in elder scrolls games...especially the older ones. No skills...no attributes...just perks.
Imagine baldurs gate 3 where all you get to pick are feats.
Starfield was probably the worse RPG from Bethesda. Especially when it comes to review scores on Steam
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All games are RPG if you think about it. You play the role of a character and do the stuff required to win the game.
Technically speaking.
I couldn't be happier about that. I heard even Infinity Ward is working on an RPG. I am hyped af to see what they can do outside of CoD!
I played the Fable Legends closed beta and actually kinda liked it. It sucks that it was canceled. I'm definitely looking forward to the new Fable.
Absolutely. I loved FF7 Remake and I've been playing the hell out of FFXVI and BG3 on my Xbox and I can't wait for FF7 Rebirth next February!
Oh hang on, none of them are on xbox are they?
House of the RPG indeed.
None of the games you mentioned are first party.
Those aren´t even exclusive.
In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS.
When's the last time Sony released a JRPG; let alone an actual RPG? Outside of 3rd party payouts. I can say the same for virtually every genre that isn't a linear action game or a racing game that doesn't press their competition.
"None of the games you mentioned are first party.
Those aren´t even exclusive.
In case you didn´t notice, Fable is an first party RPG among many others in development at XGS."
And where in your original post did you mention first party? Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG. You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow.
But that's OK, if you want to move the goalposts to make yourself feel better, go right ahead 👍
Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements.
"And where in your original post did you mention first party?"
This topic is about Ryan Clark from Larian joining Playground Games.
I said, "Xbox is definitely the house of RPGs and it´s getting bigger and better by the day!"
Not idea how you though I was talking about third party games.
"Regardless of exclusivity, none of the games I mentioned - some of the biggest RPGs around - are on Xbox but you seem to think Xbox is home of the RPG."
Xbox as a brand, doesn´t have to own all of the RPG games available in the market to be considered "the house of RPGs". I made that statement because today, Xbox is the brand with more dedicated RPG studios under its wings.
Besides, Phil has a new partnership with SE in place, we already got FFXIV from Yoshi P´s team, I wouldn´t be surprised if FF7R and FFXVI are the next. BG3 is also coming to Xbox this year, it´s not like we ain´t getting that game.
" You have Starfield and...oh, Fable. Wow."
Pentiment
Project Dragon
Towerborne
TESVI
Fallout 5
Avowed
Clockwork Revolution
The Outer Worlds 2
All first party. So now you know.
Like I said, Xbox is undoubtedly the house of the RPG games. You may not like it, but it´s nothing but a fact. Unless of course, you have some actual facts to counter the facts the brought here regarding first party RPG development.
"Also, if you want to talk first party, some would say that Horizon and God of War are action RPGs. I personally don't, but they could be classed as such since they have RPG elements."
You know as well as everybody that those games are action/adventure games with some RPG elements thrown into the mix.
Unfortunately at the moment, Sony is not investing in first party RPGs or RPG studios. Sorry.
Still waiting to see what kind of game fable will be. Hope it has gargoyles...probably not.
Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation.
Super excited for this and perfect dark...excited to see what they make that is. Don't have any high hopes but maybe MS can prove me wrong. Playground has been their studio for a long time and the initiative is their only new studio
"Hope you can pick between male or female and choose something else to distinguish yourself during character creation."
That's a staple in most if not all RPG's.
This is a good get as Baldur's Gate 3 is highly regarded.
But this has to be a hire for their next game right? Why would Fable need a producer now?
Because the current producers at Xbox are helping produce some real bangers.... I'm sure Fable is in a great state right now.
Can't wait to see what their '10 year plan' is for Fable.....just like Halo and now Forza. I'm curious to see just how badly they fuck this up with online focused, drip fed content, design and gameplay. Because I know it's going to be nothing like the previous games and anyone expecting that is in for a nasty surprise.
I really am hoping against hope that you are wrong, but I think you are probably right. Unfortunately
fable was an epic game under delivering on the greatest rpg made and excellent game nevertheless
Biggest culprit - FABLE.
From all the hype we were led to believe we were getting an RPG to best Balders & Gate & Elder scrolls by a counrty mile. What we got was essentially a cartoony & goofy casual game that would have been perfectly at home on the Wii.
I fondly remember the hype for Fable, of course it was all fluff that really had no influence on the actual game, but it was disappointing it didn't make it.
I still loved the first Fable though, the others that have come since, not so much.