Five Reasons the PS3 Won’t Overtake the 360 in 2011

From the PlanetXbox360.com feature article:

"With a plethora of exclusive titles set to launch on the PlayStation 3 later this year, fans of Sony’s console are quick to assume that the Blu-ray enabled powerhouse will surpass the 360 by year’s end; let me tell you why they are oh so wrong. I am so confident that I'm willing to be my very own pet giraffe against any Sony fanboy who thinks otherwise. While only a fool would deny the fact that Sony has quite an impressive lineup of first party titles – namely Uncharted 3, Resistance 3 and Infamous 2 – there are a number of other factors that have not been taken into consideration. In an effort to squash the ramblings of rabid fans, I will address five key reasons why the Xbox 360 will remain the console of choice in 2011. Note: I do not hold any particular allegiance to either system, I appreciate and respect what each has to offer."

[Kon]

Here we go again.... Seriously guys, can we just stop?

[B1663r]

Ok both Kon and I agree... This article is troll bait. Can't we all just get along???

[malamdra]

it's hard to say what this guy means by "overtake", which is a term usually used for sales, if he mean lifetime sales then it might not happen this year but it will happen for sure

if he's talking about sales this year alone then don't forget that Uncharted 3's preorder numbers are much higher than Gears 3

if he's talking about quality or quantity of games in 2011 he's delusional, Gears alone can't compete with 20 PS3 exclusives:

LittleBigPlanet 2
DC Universe Online
Killzone 3
Yakuza 4
MLB The Show
PS Move Heroes
Motostorm 3
Ni No Kuni
Socom 4
ICO/Sotc Collection
Infamous 2
White Knight Chronicles 2
Sorcery
Resistance 3
The Agency (not Rockstar's Agent)
The Last Guardian
Uncharted 3
Twisted Metal
and there's more than I can't remember now

[Dee_91]

im guuessing its already april 1st were the author of this title live
"2. The Controller: "
:| ... :] .. :D

[Active Reload]

"if he's talking about sales this year alone then don't forget that Uncharted 3's preorder numbers are much higher than Gears 3"

Does it even matter, when Gears 3 is going to out sell it regardless?

"if he's talking about quality or quantity of games in 2011 he's delusional, Gears alone can't compete with 20 PS3 exclusives"

I got to be honest with you, all those PS3 exclusives don't mean anything to people who only have a 360. Personally, I wouldn't even care about 98% of those games if they came out on the 360. But then again, I don't even know half of the 20 games you're talking about. Feel free to post them though, I don't mind.

LittleBigPlanet 2= I'd probably buy it
DC Universe Online= $15/month? No thanks
Killzone 3 = I'd play it
Yakuza 4=I'd play it
MLB The Show= I'd play it
PS Move Heroes = No
Motostorm 3 =No
Ni No Kuni = No
Socom 4 =No
ICO/Sotc Collection =I'd buy it
Infamous 2 =I'd play it
White Knight Chronicles 2=Looks interesting
Sorcery= No
Resistance 3=I'd play it
The Agency (not Rockstar's Agent)=Cancelled
The Last Guardian =I'd buy it
Uncharted 3 =I'd play it
Twisted Metal =No

[B1663r]

malamdra,

You realize Sesame Street Kinect is gonna outsell all of those games you listed right? Now I am not saying I am happy about that, it is just the way it is...

[kaveti6616]

Malamdra joined 20 days ago, but he's making lists like he's been here for years.

Hmmm.

[DatNJDom81]

Why is this website always bringing up PS3? Focus on the 360 impressive lineu...... Oh wait.....

[malamdra]

@B1663r

and angry birds will outsell all Kinect games put together, so what?

this is about gaming, not gimmicks

[MaxXAttaxX]

Good for you.

But your decisions on whether you play a game or not does not represent most people.

[ShinMaster]

Love how they try to argue with exclusives and Dance Central.

It doesn't change the fact that the PS3 sells faster than 360.

[Electroshocked]

This site reeks of fanboyism. XBOX 360 controller better than the PS3 controller? F**k off, come up with a real argument...

[DaTruth]

Got butthurt?

[TheLastGuardian]

I could care less about sales. The 360 people can talk about sales all day. I'll be busy playing my awesome PS3 exclusives.

Maybe the PS3 won't overtake the 360 in sales this year. If it doesn't that just proves how casual this world is. If you'd rather play Kinect than 20 PS3 exclusives there is something wrong with you.

[IHateYouFanboys]

@malambdra: "if he's talking about quality or quantity of games in 2011 he's delusional, Gears alone can't compete with 20 PS3 exclusives: "

lets look at the oft-used PS3 exclusive list:

LittleBigPlanet 2 - came out, didnt sell very well, reviewed worse than original (but still well), noone really cared. Metacritic: 91/100 (down from 95 for the first)

DC Universe Online - came out, didnt review that well, not many people are going to pay $100+ per year just to play a single game, noone really cared. Metacritic: 67/100

Killzone 3 - came out, reviewed pretty well, didnt sell that well for a game of its hype (remember, gears 3 WILL sell 3mil+ on day one alone, KZ3 struggled to 1mil in a month), even PS3 fanboys complained about it not being as good as the previous game (though i think its better). Metacritic: 84/100

Yakuza 4 - came out, reviewed poorly, noone really cared outside the fanboys. Metacritic: 78/100

MLB - came out, reviewed well, but its baseball so that means that pretty much noone cares outside of a niche group in the videogame world. Metacritic: 89/100

PS Move Heroes - came out, noone cared outside the fanboys, reviewed very poorly. Metacritic: 55/100

Motorstorm Apocalypse: came out, noone really cared outside the fanboys, reviewed pretty poorly. Metacritic: 78/100

Ni No Kuni - 99% of the video game playing population wouldnt have even heard of this, and if they had they wouldnt care.

Ico/SotC - awesome games, but theyre previous generation games. they dont really work when trying to sell the PS3 as the console to have lol. you dont see people saying Halo 1/2 are reasons to buy a 360 do you?

White Knight Chronicles 2 - sequel to a game that reviewed very poorly.Metacritic: 64/100. move along, nothing to see here.

Sorcery - a kids move game. noone really cares outside of fanboys.

The Agency - didnt see the news articles today i see lol. just got officially cancelled and everyone making it lost their jobs.

The Last Guardian - pretty much no chance of it coming out this year.

its all well and good to list exclusives, but when half of them are mediocre games that dont sell well and noone cares about, maybe you should give it a rest?

on the article, i dont think the PS3 will overtake the 360 this year either. in over 4 years its only caught up what, 4 million? its still about 3-4 million behind. itll happen eventually, thats to be expected when the previous 2 consoles in the 'family' have sold nearly 300 million units compared to 30 million for the xbox. but we'll have been playing our PS4 and next xbox for years by then.

oh and TheLastGuardian: if you COULD care less about sales, that means that you care about sales. the correct phrase is "I couldn't care less".

[Cyrax_87]

"LittleBigPlanet 2 - came out, didnt sell very well, reviewed worse than original (but still well), noone really cared. Metacritic: 91/100 (down from 95 for the first)"

Lol, only the the most desperate fanboys can try and make this look bad.

Metacritic 91/100 b..b..but it's not as higher as teh 1st one! Lol 95% of games released this year won't average higher then 91%.

And the 1st LBP sold slow at launch but has now sold over 4.5 million. But only the 1st few weeks of sales matter, right?

"MLB the Show & the Team ICO games are also on PS2. HD graphics don't make a game exclusive."

MLB11 on PS3 is nothing like the PS2 version.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Love how they they try to make a "91/100" seem bad because it's a couple of points lower on Metacritic. Metacritic? seriously? And playing the sales game again?

You guys are a joke.

[Anon1974]

The PS3 has always outsold the 360 before, why are these things going to make any difference? The article didn't even attempt to answer that question. Kinect had a big launch, Halo Reach was a huge success, the 360 s launched and the old 360's had a price drop and STILL the 360 was unable to outsell the PS3. And now we've got analysts verifying what many suspected all along - in terms of active units out there the PS3 has surpassed the 360 worldwide.

A new Gears game, more Kinect, and the same old XBL and controller aren't going to suddenly reverse what's been going on the last 5 years - the PS3 outsells the 360...period.

For once I'd like to see an article address these type of issues without "OMG Halo/Gears is coming out! PS3 is teh doomed!" You think someone would actually take a second and seriously look at what's happening in the games industry and write an article based on that.

[BlackTar187]

man active your choice of games is kinda weird. You dont want to try Twisted metal or socom? To each there own though. Im still so surprised when i find people who don't own both. Not becasue of any other reason then its been along time since both consoles have been out and i would think anyone who loves gaming enough to bea regular on this site would own at least 2 of the 3 .

But anyways game on

[SixShotCop]

I believe anybody that needs to post a list of EXCLUSIVE games for HIS prefered console without including the many awesome upcoming multi platform games, has issues.
NOBODY CARES BRO! If you're a member of N4G, we are already aware of all those games dude. Half of which are craptastic imo.

[SeanScythe]

Anyone notice that in IHateYouFanboys entire list he rips all games but he failed to list Uncharted 3 and Twisted Metal?

[P_Bomb]

@IHateYouFanboys
Wow, are you anti-fun or something? I don't get your points. Just a wall of random copy/paste excuses why literally everything you can't play is a fail. Why are you depriving yourself? 78/100 > 0/100. Fun > none.

Yakuza 4's meta' (lol why not the higher GameRankings?) has gone UP by 15 points since the 1st couple BS eviews from Greg Miller @ IGN etc who pulled out their double standard handbooks. Most are 80+ with several 90+. All reviews have gone up or have stayed the same since Yakuza 3 except for IGN. Even Edge went up, gave it more than Dragon Age etc. Series entire avg is around 77. That is quite good for a cult series. If Yakuza 4 was "poorly reviewed" then why did Gametrailers just today give it 8.3/10? http://www.gametrailers.com...

People like to try different things and not everything has to be a 95/100 FPS or TPS for it to be good. That's why Gears3 & Forza4 ain't enough selection for most hardcore gamers. You're missing out on some great games if you only play like the three 90+ meta games a year. DCU for example. Multiplat btw, scored much higher on PC due to no MMO fee-phobia over there. Game wasn't docked points by PC gamers just for existing (eg. GamePro PC guy gave it 10/10 while PS3 guy gave it 6/10 for not being sure if an MMO can make it on a console http://www.gamepro.com/arti... ). READ some of the reviews you meta' quote. See the shades of grey in the world and how opinions aren't fact.

[kreate]

i guess even if the xbox fanboys doesnt like any of the 20+ PS3 exclusives.

u still gotta admit.

uncharted 3
twisted metal
infamous 2
final fantasy 14
resistance 3

are pretty bad ass games.
and since xbox fanboys love sales.
ff14 sucks but u know it going to sell.

and even if all the consumers dont care about any of the 20-30 ps3 exclusives this year, its still far better than what the xbox360 has to offer.

Xbox360 games...

Forza4 - only xbox fanboys care
gears of war 3 - im sure it'll be pretty bad ass
kinect games - no one cares

and that's how the epic Xbox360 is looking in 2011.

im not sure about u, but PS3 seems so much better than that of the Xbox360's in 2011 even if im trying to help the xbox fanboys.

[lee_ten]

-falls over laughing-

this article made my day.

[karl]

it just shows how so many ignorant people has the power to post articles and be called a journalist

[gamingdroid]

nha, that is fine journalism at it's best here!

Just take a look at your disagree to agree ratio.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Kon...I totally agree. I am sure in hours we will see a "5 or 10 reasons why the PS3 will overtake the 360 in 2011" article. Its just foolish fanboy journalism...

[Morituri]

How can anyone disagree with stopping all the childish BS that goes on ad nauseum here on N4G?

[HolyOrangeCows]

Ps3 FUD articles are pretty much the only articles that PlanetXbox360 gets more than 200 degrees on.

Stop creating ps3 FUD.
Start doing more on XBLA titles or something.

"5. Exclusive Games: Sure, some of Sony’s biggest first party titles will hit store shelves later this year, but what’s to say that Microsoft doesn’t have an ace up their sleeve that they’re waiting to reveal at E3?"
-
Anyone with the slightest knowledge of E3 history knows that MS doesn't announce any significant number of titles at E3 that are releasing in the few succeeding months. Stop fooling yourselves.

"4. Call of Duty"
LOL.

"3. Kinect"
Splitting your audience. That'll save them. Holiday numbers proved that Kinect isn't pushing hardware (PS3/360 sold neck and neck in December). Software isn't exactly flying off the shelves. Kinect is not pushing the 360, the 360 is pushing kinect.

"2. The Controller"
Yeah, the controller that has been adored for 3 generations is going to be the downfall of a console that's already catching up to the console that it is "doomed" to.

"1. Xbox Live"
Getting more expensive all the time. PS3's free online is becoming even more attract to potential buyers all the time. Everyone I've ever talked to who was considering getting a PS3 cited the free online right after the games.

[Yomiro]

Another insecure article.

[hiredhelp]

You know what trolls. i dont give a flying f*ck ive had xbox's and ive had ps3's i love my ps3. it offers me more it makes me happy. so i dont give a toss if it is lacking or leading its put the effort in to give me the best games. buy paying out alot money investing in company's for new games. given me something new.

while still able to play online for free. and i buy another console do i have to rebuy all my xmb stuff from the arcade. nope.. sony looks after me more than i can say microsfoft there crappy service center did.

[Vherostar]

I agree Kon but this is the same site that have had like 5 articles today on 360 beating ps3 in something. All crap might I add. It has almost passed it in worldwide sales in fact ain't there an article saying it already has?

[farhad2k8]

I've got one simple statement about all this incoherency:
BULLSHIT.
- Dice said that BF3 is gonna look better on the PS3 than it will on the Xbox360 due to the Xbox360's hardware limitations;
- Call of Duty: MW3 will be compared to BF3 and it will fail, the FPS market will be owned by Dice as soon as BF3 hits the stores.
- PSN continues to improve without a price tag;
- Bluray continues to grow as the main disk format;
- Resistance 3, Uncharted 3, Socom 4, Infamous 2, Motorstorm Apocalipse all feature multiplayers, and will they drag people away from CoD and Halo? Yes, because those are games who are slowly dying already.
- Halo, one of the biggest games ever created has lost it's founders, without Bungie, Halo 4 won't be a successful game.
- Epic Games stated that if the MP of Gears 3 fails like the MP in Gears 2 did, they will stop making Gears of War games.
- Forza 4 can be a good game, maybe even better than GT5, but as far as sales are concerned, it will fall behind GT5, just like Forza 3 did (GT5 sold 6M copies since November 2010, Forza 3 sold 4M copies since October 2009)
- The Last Guardian will make your eyes melt like Crysis did back in 2007.
- Kinect? Are you kidding me? HOORAY I CAN LOOK LIKE A RETARD WHILE PLAYING GAMES, YESS I'M SO FULFILLED.
That is all.

[Blackdeath_663]

...wat bigger loss is there than not having anythoing come out that your fans would look foward too? i mean common no matter how good gears of war 3 is its not gonna keep everyone satisfied for a year

[TBM]

5 reasons I don't care as long as Sony keeps giving me games to play this year which there are plenty.

I've never cared about sales in all my 25+ yrs of gaming. For those that do play some damn games for a chang instead of caring about sales.

[Megaton]

Kon, if you think these kinds of articles should stop, then why are you defending it in the reports section?

[LaurenKB123]

I love my 360....

[malandra]

the PS3 has been outselling the 360 at a rate of two million per year for the last 3 years

and the gap in sales at the end of 2010 was 2.7 million, so it's very likely that it won't happen this year, it will happen sometime on Q1 or Q2 2010

but it will happen, even with a year less on the market the PS3 will have more lifetime sales soon

[Istanbull]

The PS3 closed the gap to 2.7 million eventough it costs 100$ more. What will happen if PS3 sells at 199$? Can you imagine the people going crazy about a 199$ PS3? We will see PS2 like sales for PS2 soon.

[Der_Kommandant]

You don't know nothing about love

[upturned2]

Exactly, Istanbull. The 360 has been a good wad of cash (for most people) cheaper than the PS3 since their releases and it always will be cheaper. For christ sake, 360's are being sold with a measly 4gb which would in turn make people upgrade - or just make them frustrated - to a bigger HDD. But only will they want to buy a HDD, when they find out there's not much to do with 4gb on a system that is, besides their gaming console, a worthy media player as well.

[guigsy]

For some people 4GB is all they need. One of my mates has an Arcade unit with 256MB of flash memory for nearly two years now and he's never complained about needing more space. Many people that buy consoles only need enough space to save games.

[BlackTar187]

Guigsy what about updates? patchs dont those require space? Also never any DLC? and some games need space to get online i thought. Im not really in the care about this topic but i was surprised at what you said.

[upturned2]

Nice!

Yea and not everyone solely plays video games on their 360/PS3. I'm talking big numbers of music and movie lovers.

[Vherostar]

@LaurenKB123 I dunno why you got so many disagrees you probably do love it nothing wrong with that. I love my PS3 and I will probably be buying a new 360 this year not for Kinect or anything but for older games like the older exclusive RPGs like lost odyssey. Since my other 3 died I was never gonna get one but meh I just applied for a new job and if I get it I get a nice fat pay off so why not?

[tigertron]

and I love Natalie Portman....

[UltimaEnder]

Good points!

[winflasher0]

No they are not good points. Some aren't even proven.

[bozebo]

Aren't even proven? Actually, the only point with any validity at all is the controller argument - and that depends on the individual.

Who actually notices a difference after 5 minutes of using one they aren't used to anyway?

Also it is totally obvious that M$ directly stole Sony's design and moved the analogue stick to make it less obvious then changed the handles & triggers to fit their particular target market (do the Japanese have big hands? do they play a lot of shooters? no, so the ps3 controller is perfectly designed.)
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As for exclusives, both platforms are doing badly this year imo. But they fare about equal for the whole generation (both badly, last gen was far better exclusive wise). If rockstar would have the balls to release gta5 on blu-ray like it should be - we will see the same thing as last gen (gta's earlier release on ps2 must have helped a lot of sales)
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Call of Duty? It's a multiplat FPS therefore the PC version is far superior. Just because M$ paid off Activision for marketing superiority doesn't make the game a reason why the 360 is a better console.
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Kinect. No.
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Xbox Live is the most overpriced thing on the planet. It is the reason that Microsoft are making a profit from the xbox. They actually have no valid justification whatsoever for charging for it. Their costs must fall into: development of service software, server maintenence costs, marketing, customer support, developer API support/conventions etc. Any other online service also has these costs (except far less marketing expenses). You get much more from PC games and have done since the internet first appeared in our homes - for free. Other gamers even pay for dedicated servers that you are allowed to play on... for free. And the PSN is free too like it should be, psn+ is even good value for money.
Infact, what MS charge for - multiplayer - doesn't even add service load to them. Free silver xbox live uses their servers just as much as a gold account. The multiplayer is p2p, you are paying MS to connect to another gamer's home internet connection and play in some lag fest (if you are used to P2P gaming you will probably be desensitized to the extreme lag) - on PS3 that is free like it should be. Infact, what M$ charge for should probably not be legal (selling you a service running off other people's home connections, the multiplayer).

[Swiftfox]

@bozebo

Actually, a quick correction if I may...

The Xbox was a direct result of Microsoft working closely with Sega technicians. The same technicians that designed the Dreamcast.

The Xbox controller design was directly taken from the Dreamcast controller.

[MaximusPrime]

"Note: I do not hold any particular allegiance to either system, I appreciate and respect what each has to offer."

ok i believe you
/s

[Ducky]

... so you didn't read the URL?

[TheHater]

If this guy wrote that the world is flat, do he really thing we will believe him?

[Istanbull]

"5 reasons why PS3 wont overtake 360"

Reason nr 2: controller

Lmao.

[upturned2]

OH MY GOD, IS IT REALLY?

that's just sad, i didn't read the article. i don't like people sometimes.

[UltimaEnder]

Why not read the article, it's just ONE persons opinion, just because your'e a ps3fanboy doesn't mean you have to agree with him, be respectful at least or he may write a piece called "why this bag of crap is better than a ps3"- this site is geared towards 360 owners but they play and own all games, giving everything a fair shot.....

[IcarusOne]

These opinion pieces are always funny to me because of how insecure the ps3 crowd proves themselves to be. I own both systems and prefer my 360, and some days I'm definitely a fanboy, but when I see an opinion piece about how the ps3 is better than 360, I don't really feel the need to mount a rabid defense of my favorite system. I'm comfortable with my choice. In fact, a large majority of the comments here aren't even from 360 fans. That should tell us all we need to know.

Game on.

[BlackTar187]

Icarus you dont but other 360 fans do. So please stop with the one group is better then the other. You would have to be a fanboy to believe that.

Thats what 360 fans are good at pointing the finger at others and saying but but but they did it.... or they do it so whaaaa... you gus and ps3 fanboys are really good at lumping an entire community together. Both sides make it impossible to have a decent conversation about likes and dislikes because of how fast the But but but card is pulled or the you don't like everything about the game then its obvious your a fanboy mentality.

[IcarusOne]

I agree with everything you've said. The industry would be a much better and prosperous place if fanboys didn't exist. But they do. And on n4g, the PS3 crowd is far more rabid than the 360.

If this were an article about the PS3 kicking 360's ass, it would be dominated by gloating PS3 nerds. If it's an article about the 360 being better than the PS3, again it's dominated by angry, argumentative PS3 nerds. I don't know why, but someone actually studied this on n4g and found that a whopping 67% of all comments across all stories on average are from self-identified PS3 fanboys. If that doesn't tell you n4g is overrun, I don't know what does...

For reference, here's a link to that study:
http://animediet.net/wp-con...

[jizzyjones]

A price drop wouldn't go a miss

[winflasher0]

A price drop would increase the PS3s chances of overtaking the 360.

[palaeomerus]

I suspect both consoles will price drop during or after E3. The question is will they drop the price directly or add stuff like games and accessories into the base box for the same price.

[UltimaEnder]

possibly, not sure - it def wouldn't help the junky attachment rate for ps3 software

[Prcko]

ps3 alrdy overtaken xbox by a 1000000000 miles!!!
Xbox had 1 year headstart FFS,ps3 is 2nd!!!

[Der_Kommandant]

This

http://fox.naurunappula.com...

[Loner]

What planet are you living on?The last quarter reports were out in December and 360 was still in second place.
Next quarter isnt till the end of April

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[SKullDugger]

Dude he's talking about the U.S. only okay!! Not world wide.

[Octo1]

Get ready for a lot of this

[darthv72]

This is typical what sony is going through. Every major player that released a 3rd console saw a drop in popularity as compared to their 2nd system.

The bounce back happens if they can make it to their 5th (ex: wii). Also having it priced at the mass market consumer level really helps.

Just to put into perspective. MS is only on their 2nd system and will most likely go through the same downturn if they release a 3rd. No one has been able to break the third console curse since Atari created it.

[Godmars290]

For one thing, Atari never regained their popularity after the 2600.

The N64 failed because Nintendo failed to recognize a changing, maturing market as well as CD technology.

Sega suffered a mental breakdown with the Saturn which was literally dumped on the market in a panic between all of the worthless add ons for the Genesis, and the Dreamcast after they had lost a good chunk of credibility with publishers. The PS3 sure as hell isn't anywhere in the position those other consoles were in.

There is no "third" console curse!

[TheFact003]

@ darthv72
okay what? where do you come with this kind non sense? it's just coincidence buddy

[darthv72]

each one of those examples and their third system was nowhere near the popularity of their second. It's as if the first one lays the groundwork for what would be come their finest achievement.

Yet because of the overwhelming popularity of their second release stagnates the growth of their third. As if to say that by the 3rd system, people are already satisfied with what the 2nd has offered and they may turn to something else from another company.

Pong could be considered Atari's firt and if so then the 2600 is their second. The popularity of that system almost made Atari think that by releasing a 3rd would be an automatic success. Unfortunately the 5200 and subsequent 7800 never even came close. The Jag being their last system was a nice try at a comeback but by then it was to little to late.

Sega and their genesis/mega drive was the biggest system they had. Saturn had its problems but still it just couldnt equate to the mass market appeal the genesis had. Even the mighty dreamcast paled in comparison but was/is one of the best they ever made.

Nintendo's choice to continue with cartridges is most likely what lead to the n64 not surpassing the snes. The fact that a new comer was taking on both sega and nintendo at their 3rd respected systems probably had 'nothing' to do with why it failed to succeed. Only through the experience of the gamecube (their 4th) and its position against the PS2 (sony's 2nd) as well as another newcomer (ms and the xbox) did nintendo realize they had to change things if they ever wanted to be back in the spotlight.

There have been many others who never made it to a 3rd or even a 2nd system that probably could have broken this 'curse' but as for now. It still stands.

[BlackTar187]

I think your missing what he is saying with the atari part. Atari failed at and after #3 and never made it back whihc is waht he said. Nintendo 3rd console fell thru and 4th. sega same thing right.

im not saying i agree with him but your not reading what he is saying correctly. He clearly stated 3rd console curse and not lifted till 5th.

I didn't do research but if he is right about the 3rd console of all those companies failing i am having a hard time seeing what he is making up?

ALso i did no research so go ahead and flame on.

[Dagobert]

Tomorrow is Friday.

[GodofwarGoty]

April Fools is tomorrow keep the articles like these for tomorrow why waste them now

[Quagland]

The controller. FUCK1NG LOL. Judging by the rate of the past couple years it will overtake it early/mid 2012.

[Oner]

I originally said by end of this year since the PS3 is only a mill or 2 behind the 360 and every year it outsells it by that or so...add that to what SHOULD be a price drop this year (some time) and that is why I "believed" end of 2011. Problem is, with what has happened in Japan recently that will most likely have an impact on things (how large that will be is yet to be seen). So to estimate end 2011 to early/mid 2012 is a very fair assessment realistically.

Edit: As for the "reasons" this Xbox360 site touts as to their point of view ~

5) Exclusive Games ~ How can this be a detriment to Sony? Answer = it isn't. MS only has what? 3 1st party devs? Nope sorry not happening. The amount of money MS would have to spend to get exclusivity would DWARF what they spent on Kinect Advertising and investors won't go for that.

4) Call of Duty ~ Sell perfectly fine on the PS3 and basically on par with the 360. And that speaks volumes to the side of the PS3 vs the 360.
LOL.

3) Kinect ~ Starting to think this is an April's Fool Joke...

2) The Controller ~ Yep me thinks thar be a trollin' going on here

1) Xbox Live ~ Live has no real additional & differential value in what it offers for what is paid in return. Sorry but MP access should be for all your customers not those who can afford it. It's a $#@tty practice to have done and is not right. Especially when you break it down and show that a 360 4gb with just 1 year of Live is only $50 less than a PS3 160gb...even more so when you compare a 360 250gb the same way being $50 MORE with just 1 year of Live. Do the math for the additional years and it's nothing short of aggravating.

[ScubaSteve1]

and look how many 360 exclusives they have 2011 they have less then what ps3 has to offer

[TheLastGuardian2010]

I can list hundreds of counter arguments on how the ps3 will OVERTAKE the 360. But I won't. Why? Because it's pointless arguing that leads to nothing. Article is trolling plain and simple.

[DavidMacDougall]

I hate these articles for 1 reason, its got a years head start.

(PS3 November 11, 2006)
(360 November 16, 2005)

Where is the articles saying how impressive it is that their right behide them even with their headstart.

[Perkel]

march 2007 for europe :D

[ksoto]

Flame onnnnnnnnn smh this site is rife with stupid articles smh

[cochise313]

I think N4G loves to see the community fight. These articles always slip through the cracks.

[XabiTheHumble]

But it already did XD

[Trroy]

Yup. Active units is all that matters.

If MS had to build/sell 5 million more 360s, possibly at a loss, to get the same installed base... that's not something to be proud of.

[Aussiegamer]

5 reasons I wont take a shit today.

5 reasons I will take one today.

5 Reasons I might take one today.

5 Reasons this one wont be as good as the last one.

5 Reasons It will be better then the last one.

5 Reasons it should be better then last one

5 Reasons it is over hyped

5 Reasons it has been clearly under hyped.

lol

Honestly how many of these articles do we have to read.

[hellzsupernova]

none :) noone is forcing you too :D lol

[elbeasto86]

Unfortunately, there are people approving these articles. I don't know why. Personally I'm just sick of Top Whatever lists. They used to be interesting but that was before I started checking N4G everyday. :/

[sway__z]

I like how the writer acknowledged the PS3 has the exclusives, but then goes on to write 'What's to say MS don't...' Aren't journalist meant to deal with facts! Seems the writer is merely speculating.

I hope 360 users do get what they want in terms of games. However, I really can't see why it's important who wins what? The gamers are the winners in the end?

Let's forget about sales/console race. It's school boy stuff!

[StarScream4Ever]

This so called 'writer' is more and more like a so called 'fanboy' disguising as a 'journalist'.

[GodofwarGoty]

there is no reason to take these article serious why did these get approved thats like the official playstation Blog or mazagine writting the PS3 will over take the xbox 360 Live time these week whats the point who is going to take a xbox website serious

[DigitalRaptor]

PlanetXbox360, it's not fair to get their hopes up like this.

Seriously, you'd better hope Sony doesn't announce a price drop for the PS3 this year, because if they do, it's all over! $199 PS3 + 2011 lineup = Unstoppable beast!

[play17boy]

I wonder what type of articles they're going to write when this finally does happen?

[DonnieDarko]

He makes a valid point around Xbl and replay value in multiplayer.

I renewed my gold membership the other week despite no real new games coming out in ages that I want to play because I still batter mw2 and FIFA 5 months on.

I buy games on 360 that are multiplat because A) I'm paying for live so I need to justify it and B) the layout of live and xgc and party chat just makes it so more immersive and C) the left thumbstick makes my thumb ache after q long time playing on the ds3.

Having said that my most favourite franchise this gen was gears till uncharted 2 came out. The multiplayer in uncharted is amazing and i can't wait for the third game.

[dukegodtezza]

well said

[chidori666]

"From the PlanetXbox360.com"

i stop read here.... =(

[FrigidDARKNESS]

the 360 is selling well around the world only in the mind of certain pro Sony folks think the ps3 is outselling the 360 WW.

[newn4gguy]

Good one, bro...

[Clarence]

You don't think the PS3 is outselling the 360 WW? In that case, how did the PS3 end up selling 2.3m more consoles for 2010. For the past three years the PS3 has been outselling the 360. Kinect was suppose to put the 360 further ahead. Instead the PS3 sold the same amount of consoles as the 360 for the holidays. Its anti 360 fans that still think the 360 is outselling the PS3 ww. If that was the case you would see articles everywhere about how the 360 is dominating ww. Instead you have articles saying why the PS3 will not pass the 360, and 360 outselling PS3 in North America.

[Aussiegamer]

Shhhh, let the 14 year old boy think he knows what he is talking about. lol

[newn4gguy]

It won't because of ignorant consumers.

That's it.

[Otheros00]

"Note: I do not hold any particular allegiance to either system, I appreciate and respect what each has to offer."

That troll article proofs that you lie.

[sway__z]

I own a PS3 because IMO it's more mature system which I don't really think of as a regular 'Games Console'. It actually serves a wider purpose for me (movies, TV shows, music, social activity). But as a 'Games' console, the 360 was always seen as the better option.

Now I see these type of desperado articles popping. I think the media are the biggest flamebaiters, and sadly some of us gamers fall for it.

I really think it's important the 360 continues to shine (Gears 3 etc) because if it were not for MS, Sony would be less motivated in their game output, and some of the risks taken (Heavy Rain, LBP etc) might never have happened. Keep up the competition, let the suits worry about sales, and us gamers just enjoy the results. :)

[theunleashed64]

*stopped reading there*

[sirdrake]

i was just about the say the same thing!

"I do not hold any particular allegiance to either system" coming from planetxbox360. right on man, right on.

[Killman]

Ah planetxbox360.com, one of the most idiotic gaming communities on the web. This article is actually quite humorous really. By the way, I am not convinced.

[Neko_Mega]

Gears is going to be awesome, but Sony does a huge line up of titles that could change ever thing.

So far I see only Kinect games and not very good ones, there is good idea's in them but needs to be done another way.

[ndl1531]

fanboys write articles now? wtf ? /s

[RedPawn]

I thought it was because there's a tomato shortage.

[Dart89]

.....

[tenmohican]

With the addition Sony keeps adding to psn, I can see things swinging to ps3. They could really knock out the competition if they would launch a cloudservice for ps1, ps2 and psp titles. I cant see how this has been ignored by everyone except maybe quakelive.

And with 3d content on the horizon, along with NGP the 5 year anniversary and e3 could be pretty epic this year.

[Ddouble]

I was going to read until i scrolled down and saw one of the reasons being the controller.

[blackburn5]

Why do these articles say 'won't'? How do you know that it 'won't'? Psychic powers? Did anyone think the PS3 would catch up to the 360? No. Yet here it is despite Microsoft's best efforts. Please stop the 'won't' and 'will' as if you have some super foresight and know something we all don't know.

[shikamaroooo]

they said that about 2009 and articles where al saying how 360 was outselling ps3 in 2010 but hey when the truth came out everyone silenced

[OcelotRigz]

"5.Exclusive Games" and he mentions 1 exclusive...
"2.Controller" ahahahaahahahaha.

Brilliant.

[Hazmat13]

cool story bro.

[Hairy Chewie]

Should be "Five examples of how I'm Delusional"

5. Get real
4. Compared to PS3, there's so few decent games being released they have to resort to buying COD, so sad.
3. Kinnect is for little girls
2. It's preference, probably a 50/50 split between PS3 and 360 controllers.
1. No way would I pay for online multiplayer.

[Raven_Nomad]

Ya, I mean if a console had a Call Of Duty game as their best selling game EVER, it would be a bad thing right?

Oh I forgot, PS3's top selling game is Black Ops...My Bad...guess I didn't really help your cause there bro.

[Hairy Chewie]

Not really, both consoles have their CoD fans. I think it sells better on the 360, one, because CoD is big in the States where there's more 360's and two, because they really don't have much else to pick from.

[Raven_Nomad]

Black Ops is the PS3's top selling game of all time. Thats truth

[Achemki]

Didn't we just have an article from a 360.com about how exclusives are dead? Now this article's going on about how single player's dead. What's with the damage control lately?

Ironic how the writer talks about "squashing the rambling of rabid fans" right before acting like Gears3 is the multiplayer GOTY. And the controller?! Is that what you buy when you have no games? More controllers, lol? I just don't get it. No matter how much they want COD to be an XBox exclusive, sales alone show it ain't (see Black Ops).

[dead_eye]

APRIL FOOLS EVERYBODY LOL.

[Raven_Nomad]

Great article that made some solid points. As a gamer though, I honestly don't care about sales. At this point none of the consoles are a failure and with an extended life cycle we the gamers are all the winners.

XBL is a huge reason I prefer the Xbox 360 and there is no doubt that the FPS genre is Geared more towards the 360 and it's online functionality and controller.

As much as fanboys are afraid to admit it, Online games and competitive games need great online and a great controller. Microsoft has those things, no matter what happens with numbers.

[Insane087]

who cares go play some fucking games!

[C0MPUT3R]

After E3 2011 everyone will be getting a PS3. Killer lineup of games + price cut = WIN.

[Ima9er4Life]

Most of the sales for Micronerds 360 is people buying the system over and over again cuz of the RROD. I have a 360 and a ps3.....if you wanna play wit grown folks come and holla at us on psN, you a lil kid in the suberbs thinkin you a hard ass gangsta then stay your ass on the 360. But other than that, I give a fuck about the sales. Just in a article, put some fuckn thought into what you writing. But still I wanna play gears. Hope it ain't a gears 2.5, the second gears was gears 1.5

[wray77]

System A is way better than system B and System C is the best. If you can't see that than you're delusional.

[TheGamingArt]

why would the mods approve this crap

[Kon_Artist]

ps3 has 99 problems but 360 aint one

[SlyFoxC]

this article is a joke! There might be some spots where the xbox is better than the ps3 and where the ps3 is better than the xbox, i can say that and mean that. But when a person brings up a controller and says that it is why one console is better than another is just stupid. i dont care about anything legit in that article at all because the controller thing came up...If you dont like the controller for a system go get one shaped like the other systems and use it. It is weird but yes they do, i have one of each for both systems.

[Romudeth]

I wanted to post on the site but it won't load so I'll say what I wanted to say here.

The argument is irrelevant. The PS3 has already overtaken the 360 in global sales. Maybe this guy was talking about USA sales but again, irrelevant. The PS3 has officially beat the 360. It's over.

[shanesgc]

This is complete fanboy trash. If ms had something to announce, they would have already. Not one decent point here.

[unicron7]

That has to be the most idiotic article I have ever read. Fanboy article is an understatement. Exclusives? Last I checked PS3 has it beat in that area. Far too many to name off releasing this year. Call of Duty? A multiplat? Get real. The controller? Completely up to users on what they prefer. There is no "superior" controller. Different strokes for different folks. Xbox live? It's the same as PSN, minus the cross game chat, but you pay 60 bucks a year. I don't think that beats out free. These guys are reaching, and it's laughable. Come back with some better reasons and we'll talk.

The only real thing they bring up that is somewhat true is Kinect. They are spearheading into the casual market, and leaving their hardcore gamers in the dust.

[undercovrr]

I was going to give this article a chance...and then I read it. First of all the source is PLANET XBOX - need I say more? Second of all, the top 2 reasons. "1. Xbox Live: Let’s face it; Microsoft’s Xbox Live service has yet to be topped. It serves as the bar its competitors strive to match and is a service that offers far more functionality than Sony’s PlayStation Network. "

That argument was valid 2 years ago..not anymore. I would say PSN and Live are even.

2. The Controller: If the record breaking success of titles like Halo, Call of Duty and Battlefield haven’t already made it obvious, first-person shooters have become the genre of choice this generation, and the Xbox 360 controller is perfectly engineered for this style of play.

-personal perferance, I personally despise the Xbox controller..and so do most of my friends.

Flamebait BIASED article.

[TBONEJF]

ok NOW I'M SEEING WAY TOO MANY FANBOYS trash talking bout PS3 is bout to storm the Xbox 360 please stop talking all this nonsense.

[Haseo106]

This dude must write this article while he was SLEEPING!
In your dreams, dude! In your dreams! Because in reality, PS3 will take down Xbox360 this year!

[Chevalier]

"Exclusive Games: Sure, some of Sony’s biggest first party titles will hit store shelves later this year, but what’s to say that Microsoft doesn’t have an ace up their sleeve that they’re waiting to reveal at E3?"

Oh I lol'd at that one. Yeah they'll announce something at E3, but, I wouldn't pin my hopes on them. Remember last E3? What did everyone say again? Oh yeah don't worry no way MS is going to come out without game announcements! Yeah we got elephants/Cirque du soleil and ponchos. Oh and a bunch of kinect stuff.

[Phoenix76]

Love the fact that the author of this article says he takes no preference over either console..... then the link takes u to a Xbox website!!! lol WTF :D

[K1LLSburyPWNboy]

here i can sum it up quicker, check it out....
#1 PS3 controllers are weak- a sleepy baby girl could snap one in half
#2 91.25% of multiplatform games perform worse on the PS3
#3 PS3 Online is trailing compared to live. Community, ease of access, etc...
#4 Shooters are #1 in the US and Call of Duty is best on the 360. PS3 has no answer for Halo or Gears of War either. God of War is beast, I'll give you that. You can argue Killzone Resistance and Uncharted then why aren't they selling? Don't say they are buying other great games the 360 has a larger library of games. Also, keep in mind 360 is pirated more.
#5 Four is good enough right?

[Platinum_k]

ur effed in the head

[Killzoned]

LOL did you say Killzone/Resistance/Uncharted aren't selling? I guess every game has to sell over 10 million to be SELLABLE

360 has a larger library of games? Please what have you gotten this year? What are you getting later this year?
We're getting the exact same amount of games (Multiplatform) but PS3 getting more exclusives? YOU GOT NO GAMES DUDE, Please don't say a multi platform game to back you up

[Platinum_k]

watta dumbass article...

PS3 has already surpassed 360 in overall sales!

[NeloAnjelo]

Five Reasons the PS3 Won’t Overtake the 360 in 2011... In North America... Really its one reason, that is strategic marketing.

Microsoft has brainwashed you with adds into paying for online, Netflix and other services that are free on the PS3
With is launch price tag gamers were paying more for an upgraded HD, an HD DVD Player and network adapter while this was all bundled in the PS3's price.

You actually think replacing your 360 two or three times is acceptable. People think they want or need Kinect or that its the real future of games.

You believe that exclusive content "first" is more important that exclusive games. E.g. COD and GTA. All of which arrived cheaper on the PS3.

Sony not pushing the PS3 enough with campaigns in North America. Also, Sony not having as much content or a deeper online experience similar to Microsoft's.

Finally the head start, poor launch and mistakes made by Sony in its first year.

Wordwide however is different.

[Sarobi]

360 has no games

[SpinalRemains138]

Because it already did in 2010.

[SpinalRemains138]

1 less year
1 million more

boohoo
http://www.gamingunion.net/...

So here we see that the 360 has been around the longest of the current consoles, and yet it has managed to sell the least. What a success! Now it's a kids camera for cryin out loud. Why are we discussing this?

[Simco876]

Even if the PS3 does pass the 360... should you care?

Have fun on the console that you own, if you have a problem with some fool on the internet talking shit on a piece of plastic then you have more issues you need to address

[RyuCloudStrife]

yeah someone is living in the past... take your Xbox to your basement and Cry hugging it

[sickbird]

when my 360 is on in my basement i can still hear it running. Thats probly the biggest reason i dont play it, the annoyance.

[boss_killa]

The guys at planetxbox360 are probably upset that Microsoft is ditching the core market for Kinect.

I would be too if I ran an xbox360 site knowing that most of the games I'm going to review are gonna be Kinect games and multiplat games.

[RealtorMDandDC]

...Kinect....is Xbox 360.5

[sickbird]

but didn't ps3 just overtake 360?

[aaronobst]

Honestly who in the hell approves these god awful articles? I come here for news not fucking 10 year old trollfests

[RealtorMDandDC]

The site is ran by 12yrs olds.....

[Perkel]

5 reasons we don't need 5 reasons lists:

1. It's anoying
2. It is not constructive
3. It is not a news
4. It's completly non objective
5. Because all 5, 10 , 15 reasons should die

[Big_L]

Because, we're planetxbox360 and our allegiance is to said console

[macky301]

God decides to end this shitty human existence early,...(actually it is probable, but it is not for men to know the time) otherwise PS3 will dominate regardless the price,..

there is no way in hell 360 outsells PS3, it could cost 50 usd,.. I would still not buy that ms pos,. I would probably rather get a second wii,..

And ps3 guys might start replacing their day1 fats,.. I know I will,.. lens started to get dirty and shit

[Killzoned]

I'd like to counter this Article

5. Yes some of Sony Exclusive has already hit this year, And of course Microsoft probably does have something under their sleeves. Sony still has big games ready to drop and when i say big its going to be damn big and whos to say Sony doesn't have anything up their sleeves?

4. COD will also be on PS3, and yes 360 will have LIMITED content exclusivity to them but they will still come to the PS3. COD has already established an customer base, i seriously doubt millions more will jump on. Whos going to play COD when BF3 is around the corner?

3. Kinect? Seriously? Yes the sales have been crazy but will it stop PS3 from surpassing it? NO. PS move continues to receive much more support than the Kinect, More core games are being add to the PS Move list.

2. Controller is a preference, Why would the shape/size of a controller prevent Sony from surpassing XBOX 360? thats the most retarded shit i've seen from an article.

1. PSN will continue to improve, will it surpass XBox Live? probably not but its already better than Xbox Live, i mean its free! Xbox live doesn't even offer much in features when compared to PSN, The only beneficial you'll get is probably Cross game chat. Xbox Live price is rumored to increase at E3 which will suck even more! What major upgrade has MS given to XBL users? err nothing special so far.

I don't wanna end up paying for the Internet then Xbox live then Electricity bills LOOL

[raiden-49]

FAIL XD

[protekjv]

it sounds like a recycle article from a year ago.

[kopicha]

Honestly metacritic score as a gauge for who cares about PS3 exclusive is such a dumb thing to do. 100% of the 360 fanboys are playing games that score less than 90/100 since most of them are multiplatform. yet they are saying things like who cares about those exclusive games that score less than 90/100. If thats the case xbots really does have no games to play with. Check the score of COD:BO and look at how much metacritics score it has, yet it has been the no.1 xbox live game for over 4 months straight ever since it's release and even beating the shit out of Halo that actually score higher and being an exclusive on 360. your arguments fail so badly that i feel that you ppl are such a sadist.

ps3 owners should feel proud that they share almost the same amount of multiplatform games, yet they have much more exclusive than 360. score means nothing. reviewer's opinion does not mean the actual gamer's opinion as long as ppl enjoy them. also that PS3 definitely beat 360 in terms of games variety. In that department there is no contest between the 2. so dont be a sour grape simply because ps3 has more to offer on the table. more = more option, its that simple.

I personally do feel that 360 is pretty pathetic this year when compared to ps3. it simply has nothing much to offer this year. GEOW3? F4? What else? Kinect games? This is fact and nothing can change that until M$ do something. 360 fanboys you can bash me all you want for what I comment about you ppl. Ultimately I am still the winner since I own both. I just play everything. If i were to have your mentality, I would have thrown my 360 out of the windows for being a complete garbage when compared to PS3 in this year's line up.

[bart999]

Jesus! Stop these crap posts.

[RealtorMDandDC]

from 5 different fairly notable sites that states otherwise.....
Edit: if you do not want to click on the link it pretty much states that analyst are saying PS3 sales have already surpass Xbox

http://uk.videogames.games....

http://www.pushsquare.com/2...

http://www.computerandvideo...

http://www.reghardware.com/...

[Garethvk]

It already went past it worldwide last year so this is invalid news.

[Masta Kaos]

How old is this guy? Who ever wrote this article must taking Crazy Pillz.....Controller? Xbox Live? Kinect? Exclusives? And da other one. This is jus plain nonsense

[StoneyYoshi]

xbox live actually is causing people to stay away from owning a 360. plenty of my friends actually wanted a xbox but chose to grab a ps3 instead just because they didnt want to pay to play games online. and its not to just play online. you have to pay to access netflix wich you still have to pay for to access movies. as well as you need to pay just to access facebook and twitter. features like that i believe shouldnt be charged to access. cause most of those features arent worth paying a monthly fee to access them.

[CrimsonAng3l]

Another stupid article.

[Zancruz]

Who gives a flying fuck?!

[Mister_G]

Why does it even matter if the PS3 overtakes the 360? To prove the PS3 is a success?

PS3 is already a huge success, look at the sales figures for COD:BLOPS, nearly 10 million in no time at all, the best selling PS3 games and half of that was US sales despite the 360 supposedely beating the PS3 in the US.

If that's not a successful platform then I don't know what is.

[DAS692]

"Note: I do not hold any particular allegiance to either system, I appreciate and respect what each has to offer."
... www.planetxbox360.com