It's also funny how MS uses shipped numbers when it suits them, but when Sony used shipped numbers MS jumped all over them. How many of the 8 million shipped are still sitting on store shelves. There are certainly a lot at my local best buy, target and gamestop... not to mention there is no shortage at Amazon.
Only fanboys care about this war. I am happy owning both consoles. I have move and I don't have an interest in kinect since I don't play the casual games. If MS gives me a reason to buy kinect then I will. Till then sales mean absolutely nothing to me.
@ChadWarden below I agree completely. The only reason they care is for a leg to stand on in a fanboy argument. There is no other reason
@Dark_Charizard. The fact is the title makes it sound like its the whole world when its not. Do we all just assume that anything on N4G is about NA only?.
I understand why the Kinect is outselling move. There's two reasons: 1) marketing budget, 2) huge amount of xbox 360's in homes around America. I honestly think the 360 is so much more successful in America than Europe or Japan mostly because of Xbox Live. It is the superior online gaming network. America is more social for youth than Europe. I can go up and talk to a total stranger in the street here in America, but when I spent a summer in Europe it was considered odd to try to start a conversation with a stranger. I think Americans love socializing very much and want a better online system that allows them to do that. Europeans are happy playing better exclusives in the comfort of their homes even if they are single player. Now obviously not everyone is like this, but it is a trend I believe. I personally have both consoles and prefer PS3 due to the better exclusives, but it makes sense that other casual American kids and teens desire a console where it is the most fun and social to play cod and ncaa/madden. With Christmas time just past, many families wanted a fun new toy to add to their home that the children would enjoy. What better than a seemingly great accessory for the console they own? It doesn't matter if Kinect has shit games right now, it's something that can be put under the Christmas tree to fulfill the parent's desire to get something new and fun for their kids.
@TheLastGuardian - So, what's stopping you from moving?
Could it be that you are incapable of sustaining your own livelyhood and you still need mom and dad's help.
Could it be that you really aren't ashamed and you just simply said it out of frustration? (frustration that you wouldn't have if you weren't a fanboy.)
Please do tell? Mister ashamed? I truely am curious what makes a person ashamed to live in a country because it has casual gamers. The comment in itself simply stinks of immaturity.
why does the title not specify. you dont see titles saying ps3 outsells xbox 360 20:1 and then when you read the article it says Japan. its bad journalism and it shows there desperate for hits.
Think about it. Kinect software...can only be played with kinect. Move games are a mix of some move but mostly games already out that have been patched.
Motion controlls are a fad. The wii sold because it was new and wii sports and fitness games have mass market appeal. Kinect is new an exiting to consumers taking the wii and and reinventing it. Move comes off as wii ripoff to average consumers, been there done that. Kinect captured the imagination of people, its cool and exciting, controlling everything like minority report and it acually really fun. I havnt bought it and wont until i see more games id like with replay value. I disagree with people because i think kinect is bringing tons of games to the 360 and am excited to see how some of the tgs games play. We still get normal games but now we also get kinect games some of which have the possibility of bieng something great and new so its definately a good thing as more 360 owners means ore games and more third party support.
I think it has some good titles, more original titles than Kinect at the moment I believe (I could be wrong). The problems seems to be advertising and getting the word out.
Sony needs to realize this if they want higher sales.
EDIT: Below, thanks Hardknock, was not really sure. I adjusted my comment.
And Kinect needs titles other than Wii clones. It needs to be more than the gimmick Wii was otherwise it will end up like the Wii once the hype for it subsided.
I think Kinect and Move are targeted at a different audience. Kinect is casual and thus more accessible. Move is more complicated to use, thus I'd rate it more hard core.
But if you want to sell in numbers and convince the soccer mums, kids need to have fun with it without the need to read a manual.
I find Move more satisfying because of the precision it gives me. But I have to admit my 10 year old son would probably rather play the Wii where he can just waggle the controls - or jump up and down in front of a camera.
I like that Sony took the risk and actually delivered a product for me; but I also think it won't reach the masses like Kinect (and Wii) will - unless there will be an absolute must have Move game (KZ3/Socom4 ain't it).
Sony are not promoting the Move as something that will change gaming for good. They are simply sellling a tight, accurate and responsive motion controller for people who like to play differently, and for it to be compatible with the games they want to put out.
There's nothing wrong with adding support to existing titles. And there will be more "ground-up" Move titles. But for now, I think most people are satisfied with games like Killzone 3, LittleBigPlanet 2, Heavy Rain, Resi5, and more.
Of course I wouldn't complain if there were more quality Move-only games, but if were to detract from Sony's offerings I would rather see just added Move support.
The difference between that and Kinect, is that Microsoft and their fanboys are trying to promote Kinect as some sort of game changing device that will change the way we play games and will be the "the future of gaming"! And what are we seeing? Watered down, casual Wii game clones, that do not bring improvements on anything.
i think sony rushed to get move ready for launch before kinect, hence the weak move only line-up and the fact that the majority of the games worth using it for are retrofitted.
I wouldn't judge anything based on a few months, see how things pan out over the space of a year. Sony don't have their killer app for move yet and for all we know dance central and kinect sports could be the peak of kinects capabilities
I agree but the games that support DS3 and Move will be he best Move games for core gamers. I'd like to see Sony have the sales they deserve but I'm happy with how they're supporting core gamers and not deserting them like Microsoft.
the better the kinect sales the less and less exclusive core games for the 360. Its already showing..i dont think you guys should be proud of that. 360 is turning into a casual system
I just can't see how Kinect will do anything to make gaming better for me. With no controls other than move your whole arms & legs round, I don't see how this can be used to play the games I like to play.
But the thing is, I'm not the audiance that MS is after now. Because jumping round is what kids like to do, and thats why this product is focusing on familys. Great for MS who want to get more sales, but I'm not sure what it is that the 360 fan boys keep getting excited about, because it means there will be less focus on the games they like to play.
Most they can hope for now is that they may get one or two high profile exclusives and the standard spread of multiplats. Because thats all I'm seeing these days.
this whole fear of casual and ther wont be any hardcore titles on 360 is getting silly coz there will always be hardcore games thats just fact... all there is is the eco system of the 360 is gettting bigger and open to more diverse type of gamers than b4
LOL The good new articles Xbox have been getting has the Sony fanboys working double time
L M M F A O
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"Funny how those same XBox articles can't exist without mentioning Sony in the headlines. They talk about Sony more than Sony does. Can 'Dance Central' and 'Your Shape Fitness' not stand on their own? Oh wait... :p"
Oh the irony, look at YOU talking about 'Dance Central' and 'Your Shape Fitness' more than the Xbox crowd. 9 time outta 10 the Sony fanboys are making the 1st comment about Xbox articles, sad.
Funny how those same XBox articles can't exist without mentioning Sony in the headlines. They talk about Sony more than Sony does. Can 'Dance Central' and 'Your Shape Fitness' not stand on their own? Oh wait... :p
Considering this site is meant to be crawling with Sony Fan boys, there is a lot of anti Sony article being submitted. And then they claim their doing the damage control.
Kind of funny a console with no games keeps on selling more software than the PS3.
If you only play exclusives then you must be the saddest "gamer" alive along with your fellow cult followers.
95% of PS3 games coming out in 2011 are multiplat. And this year there were more quality multiplats on the PS3 than exclusives.
I wish there were no more multiplats on the PS3, you guys would run out as soon as possible to buy a 360. Cuz after your 26th playthrough of GOW3 or Heavy Rain you'd want to play try out something else beelieve me.
when people say "games" they usually mean ones of significance (which is subjective but theirs ones that are hard to argue really count as "games" on a console, think of movie games)
x-box has no games (which is fanboyish)- means that it has no games to warrant a purchase, if you already have one then you will have plenty of choice but you would still be missing out on some of the best quality games.
The problem of games for 360 is that once a person has a ps3 and a pc then they are not missing out on much, especially 2011
Edit - also please stop using sales as an indication of anything, quality and sales might not be completely independent but an argument based on it is just false.
you want us to buy 360 just for the multiplatform games? Dude, like i care about 360 having better graphics on multiplats.. Multiplatform games work flawlessly on my PS3.
You might want to wait until after they release their 3rd and 4th quarter results for 2010 before you start spamming "But-bu-bu-bu they are still in third place". If they are still in third place it is because of a price disadvantage and a drastic change in gaming demographics.
Their place is not a big deal to me so long as they continue to produce the best software/hardware among all consoles.
Microsoft has officially sold their soul to the causals. It is hilarious to see all of the hardcore fanboys getting giddy over a garbage, gimmicky peripheral that is being touted as the future of home entertainment. I thought you guys liked Halo, Gears of War, and Mass Effect?
can i just point out not everyone who bought the kinect bought it for gaming purposes lol a ton of people bought it to hack it's crappy softwear to use for other purposes
In the USA, Not the world.