A DICE developer has confirmed that Battlefield 3 won't support Windows XP.
Windows XP Is Old So It Makes Sense
Wow... It looks like I won't be buying Battlefield 3 then. This is my first Battlefield game I've missed.
only because of the OS ? lool xp is getting old
i got windows 7 but what the fuck they mean by 64-bit OS is recommended i got 32 intel i5 4 gb of ram and a 10.1 DX graphics card with 1 gb of ram im i ok ? @ the guys below im getting ang DX11 graphics card soon and thats all what im going to upgrade
They've designed the engine to run better on 64 bit than 32 bit. DICE aren't cutting any corners with Frostbite 2. When it's designed for a 64 bit DX11 environment, it's going to pack a lot of punch and have some incredibly beautiful graphics. Frostbite 2 is going to be one hell of an engine. @Captain Yes, the game will run fine on your system, but optimally you're going to want a 64 bit, DX11 system for the best possible BF3 experience :)
@Captain Obvious I think they recommend 64bit to fully utilize quad cores. Hopefully they just go balls out with this game, quad core support (or more), directx 11, and more eye candy to put graphics cards down to their knees. Now I really cant wait for this game.
My specs: Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 2.80 Ghz 4 gb ram 64 bit windows 7 Ati Radeon HD 4650 10.1 dx graphics card btw. I think my computer will run BattleField 3 on medium graphics on 30 fps atleast!!!
@ capt obv Ur more than capable of playing it, reason they recomend 64bit os is because the game will utilize more than 3gb of ram if your machine has it not to mention quad core fully optimized. BTW why do u have 4gb of ram in a 32bit OS, ur wasting 1gb their pal EDIT BTW my specs are: athlon II x3 465 OC'D to 4ghz 4gb ocz sli edition @ 800mhz 2 x sonic platinum gtx460's oc'd to 1ghz mem clock and 2 300gb raptors in raid 0
@captain-obvious 4GB RAM 32-Bit OS GTFO
why whats wrong ? all i did was buying 2 ram card and it happend that both of them was 2 gigs each so whats wrong ?? its cheap you know
I think im going to buy a 6 gb memory stick, and use turbo boost. I have 4 gb ram, and 64 windows. Would that be great purchase?
Your computer probably sucks anyways. This have nothing to with XP.
its about time game devs start utilizing 64-bit processing on PC.
@captain-obvious What's wrong is that you're using a 32-bit OS when you have 4 gigs of ram. 32-bit windows can only handle up to 3 gigs, the restoring gig is left unused.
@Onesneakymofo You really expect them to develop a game for DX9? Windows XP is fucking old news bro. They don't want you playing the game if you are running XP obviously. It's time for an upgrade.
32-bit OS can handle up to 4GB RAM total and that includes system RAM and GPU RAM. so, captain obvious has 5GB in total making it a waste of 1GB!
As long as this game isn't plauged with cheaters and they include Xinput, I'm all in, otherwise I'm getting it for PS3.
This is dumb. Personally it doesn't affect me though because I was always gonna buy this for the PS3. But this doesn't really help for the legions of XP users.
I know, isn't it crazy that a developer is actually wanting to get the best out of their game instead of the most money out of it.
Why you base it off the number of people who use XP? Most PC GAMERS have moved on. Why hold back for those that refuse to move forward?
I thought Battlefield 3 was PC exclusive?
@Vickers500, I did too...smh.
Battlefield 3 IS a PC exclusive. Rightfully so IMO. This time they can go all out. And to be honest, a lot of hardcore PC gamers that's going to buy this game have probably already upgraded anyway.
It's not a PC exclusive, but the PC version will LEAGUES ahead of the console versions. I honestly feel bad for people expecting the console version of BF3 to be anything near the PC version. The console version might as well be Battlefield Bad Company 3, because DICE isn't going to be able to do a whole lot more with BF3 than they did with BC2, i.e, low res graphics at 30 FPS with 0x anti-aliasing, lower player counts, etc.
The so called "legions of XP users" probably won't be buying BF 3 anyways. No loss just because some tool can't play it on his business comp.
On the front of the boxes of Medal Of Honor on both the Xbox 360 and PS3 version it says "Grants access to Battlefield 3 Beta". So while it hasn't been confirmed to be on consoles it is a safe bet that it will be.
I mean, you gotta use common sense when figuring these things out.... EA loves consoles....point blank. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
XP is too old now and making BF3 support down to XP and DX9 is a stupider choice.
There are alot of people that still have XP, and because of the economy, it's bad to try and cut your potential userbase in half. There are alot of people that simply can't afford the upgrade. I mean, isn't the whole idea supposed to be to GROW fanbase, not alienate it?
In half? Do some research, only 25% of Steam users (aka PC Gamers) use XP. PC platform is about pushing tech, I quote DICE "Windows 7 is an excellent OS for gamers (but please use the 64-bit version!) and I predict a vast amount of the gamers that are still on Windows XP, which is now a 8 year old operating system, will upgrade to Windows 7 and as such go directly from DirectX 9 to DirectX 11 awesomeness." http://game.amd.com/us-en/c...
Steam isn't the be all end all of PC gaming..... At least I hope it's not.
Well, at ~70% of steam users with Vista/W7, there are at least or 21,000,000 gamers with a DX11 capable operating system. In the end though, DICE/EA know which BF fans are playing on DX9 or DX11, they must be pretty confident with this decision.
According to Steam, only about 25% of gamers still use Windows XP, and that number will probably be <10% by this time next year due to a larger number of games that won't support it.
It won't be supporting DirectX 9 either. FINALLY PC devs are moving forward and leaving behind old tech.
I agree this news good and hope more devs start with more update tech.
@ Stoney4 You said it right brother!! This is great news. DICE is one hell of a developer and dumping DX9 is the start of PC graphics revolution. I hope more developers follow this trend. Frostbite Engine 2 is gonna be awesome. Battlefield 3 Pc DX11 i can't wait!!
the reason its not on XP is because the game will be solid direct x 11 which xp dont support. Now dont get me wrong you can bodge your way around that but update wise xp is screwed same games for updates on the GPU related to DX11. in a way im kind of glad this because the game wont be held back on the PC
But if it is held back by console limitations anyway.(which seems pretty likely) This will be a major disappointment. I'd probably need another 5770 to play anything decent in DX11 aswell. I'd love to see PC gaming take off like that too, but how many people have the equivalent of 2 5770's? Surely there is a DX10 option or this is going to be a really amazing year for the PC gamers that don't fall off the grid.
but loads of people love windows xp, it is runs game quite well, ah well, most people should have moved t vista or 7 by now, most people have windows xp for fun etc
XP and W7 support makes more sense to me than being compatible with Vista since so many games have had problems with the OS in the past
i will agree with you because of your name
But Vista can run DX10 & DX11. I think BF3 is going to be DX10 minimum. They can't say XP is supported BUT there is a possibility that people who hack XP to allow DX10 may be able to run the game. It is actually quite probable. However, they do not SUPPORT it as XP does not officially support DX10+
Ouch..........I'm in dire need of a PC upgrade.There's just too many games coming out for me not to justify spending the cash.
Well, the engine doesn't support DirectX 9, so that means no Windows XP. Get with the times, people, that shit is almost a decade old.
Good that I have Windows 7 Ultimate-
I've had a gaming rig for about one and a half years now and I've been using XP until recently (specifically yesterday when I ordered the Win7Ultimate OEM from newegg), so I can understand the concern. Oh well, I suppose it isn't that big of a deal, because it is about that time where there's no excuse for not upgrading (other than money, but it's becoming a necessary investment, so people should have money for it).
No DX9 support is good. If you can't do DX10 then you shouldn't be playing BF3 anwyays.
The engine supports DX9. On the 360 version hurrr!
people still use windows XP ? lol..
But only about 25% of people with a gaming rig use XP. If you've got a DX10 or 11 GPU running on Windows XP, you're doing it wrong.
In March, Windows 7 had sold NINETY MILLION COPIES. thats bigger than the PS3 and 360 market combined. abandon XP, who cares
Windows 7 sale figures makes a mockery out of all those Mac commercials. Speaking of which how come I don't see those anymore, do they cost too much in ratio of Mac sales?
well we see that coming with Windows 7
bbbbb..bbbut it suports windows 98 right?
ok really guys, cars dont support tape players anymore,Whens the last time you have used a VHS player, or a PCI (not PCI-E) slot for your graphics card?. The point is that older tech dies out, so dont go bashing and get pissy when your 11 year old tech isnt used anymore, same with software, its technology is it not? So get on with that BS. Also, if you want a good software comparision , look at the PS3, no longer does it support "PS2" titles, why? Because we have moved on to better media!
True, they don't support PS2 titles anymore, but there are way better games on PS2 than on the PS3. To be fair about the tape players on cars, nobody buys CDs anymore either, but at least there are special tapes that jack into your MP3 players, something the more advanced CD players can't do.
I approve of this decision.
If anyone is to blame for this decision, it should be Microsoft. Obviously Dice are going to use the newer shaders etc. from DirectX 10-11 which is not supported in Windows XP (DirectX 9). If Microsoft allowed you to upgrade DirectX on Windows XP then we wouldn't have this issue, but then from Microsofts point of view there wouldn't be much reason for gamers (probably only a small percentage of the market) to upgrade their OS.
No, its not, its dice, DX11 is a resource hog that XP cant not handle, the XP uses a different construction set, than Windows vista/7. 7 is built for gaming in mind, look at your task manger when ever you game. most task are killed to get the most performance while playing. XP was not built with that mind frame. So if you would like to blame someone, blame the people who are to cheap and stubborn to upgrade their 10 year old OS while everyone is jumping ship. And why in the hell would you game with xp? performance is 20 percent better while on 7, and uses features like dx 10/11. YOu use xp for legacy hardware or software.
I do not see your reasoning to blame Dice for this? Although DX11 is resource hungry and would not perform adequately on XP, remember the game will still be DX10 compatible; that's a given. The only reason DX10 is not available for XP is because Microsoft decided to cease support for XP. If a small group can get DX10 running on XP, there is no reason that Microsoft cannot. http://www.techmixer.com/do...
MUCH much more than it will entice people to upgrade. I was gonna go PS3 with this anyhow. If people were looking at one advantage consoles have over PCs, bookmark this one. I'm saying all this and I just built a screaming new rig about 2 months ago. They just removed 50% of their consumer pool by default. Bad decision IMO. Also good luck to those touting they have Windows7 while having an Overall performance score of 3.2 lol, you may as well have XP too.
eh? you have Windows 7, why should you care what anyone else does. And 50% of the Windows pool would still leave around 100m+ PCs, much more than the Playstation 3. How is the Battle of Hastings doing on PS3 btw, oh...
If you are a PC gamer, you still use AGP graphic card and win xp?
LOL @ obvious troll post. This guy probably can't tell the difference between his mouse and the power plug.
There comes a time when you have to move on from old tech. Yeah, they might lose a few million pc customers who still use xp. But they will gain even more millions with their excellent new frostbite engine that is far more advanced than anything previously released. They are not just thinking about making money right now, they are thinking about the future too. Thats how you do business. get over it artsaber
Well I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, with a performance score of 5.9 (7.3 if it wasn't for my hard drive). And I'm sure most PC gamers have at least 6 for their rating so I don't know what you're talking about. Just plain trolling, you don't have a gaming rig. It's about 25% of gamers owning XP, and more will upgrade in the next year and believe it or not, BF3 will actually sell W7.
I don't get what you're trying to say? http://img210.imageshack.us...
About time a dev started dropping XP support. That shit is ANCIENT in PC years.
I wonder what the discrepancies between the console and PC versions will be. Other than visuals and say player count. Will they go as far as altering maps or vehicle counts? I remember reading a DICE post on one of their forums saying it won't be "console-ified" but I'm not sure what that means.
better graphic + dedicated server + m/B support?