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PS3 - Worth the investment in 6 years?

Kaz Hirai recently said the "PS3's full gaming potential won't be tapped 6 years". He also talks about the issue that developers are having issues with the PS3.

Do we feel mad or happy about this?

Some feel that is simply too long to wait. Others think it is a great thing. The premium games on the PS3 look amazing right now, imagine the progression this will have in 2 years, in 4 years, and then this 6 year mark. If you were to be mad, why be mad at Sony. . .I feel it's the developer's fault. Unless he means they won't 'unlock' the full potential via firmware updates then yes, be mad at Sony. If not, then just enjoy the natural progression of better video game graphics.

Then Kaz commented on the difficulty developing for the PS3 and compared it to the PS2 era. Kaz says. . .

If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that 'It's very difficult to program for' and 'It's easier on a Dreamcast'. It's happened before.If people said it was easy to program the PS3, I would be worried. That wouldn't be pushing the envelope for technological development.

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mighty_douche6130d ago

im sure he was trying to state that the ps3 has alot of longevity and is there for worth the investment. to be honest, looking at things just around the corner (MGS, KILLZONE, LBP) i dreed to think what the machine will be capable of in a few years!

id rather pay a little more for tech that has been designed for the future, rather than tech which will be out dated within a few years time!

stunt2136130d ago

i hope ps3 will last for 10 years but i just wish they comes out with a new design of controller cuz im getting sick of using the same controller from ps1 - ps3

InMyOpinion6130d ago

It will last until Microsoft decides to release a new console.

Capt CHAOS6130d ago

Wait 6 years before we make the best use of your console?

actionjackson6130d ago

I think the point he is making is that with development over time, you get growth and degrees of richness at each level. Right now, the developers are giving PS3 owner games that are pretty good. Next year they will come out with better games, etc. Under your statement, software should never evolve, which we all know it does. Buying, for instance, Windows Vista, you will not gain the full benefit of the product now, since a lot of development has not been geared towards Vista quite yet. When it is geared for Vista, in a few years, the full potential will be realized. Likewise, for the PS3, it does not mean that it takes six years to develop a great game for, it just means that it's full functionality can be properly harnessed [i.e., playing multiple games at once, Folding@home and playing a game at once, etc). This will not effect the bottleneck at the developer level. Sony has in almost every instance financhially supported exclusive titles, and will continue to do so. So the bottleneck is that developers don't really care about making the best playable game, they want to make it look good and send it to the shelves. Well it is too early for the PS3 to have games popped out on a daily basis, so it will take time. Like the PSOne, PS2, Xbox, X360, and the Wii, all consumers complain that there aren't enough games whent the console is launched. Then miraculously, about a year and a half into the console's life, great games start popping up. That means it takes time to learn, program and design for. For the PS3, Sony is say "try to push the envelope everytime, and you'll still find a way to push the envelope later." From a tech standpoint, that is amazing, from a developer's standpoint, it's time consuming. So where's the bottleneck? Not at Sony.

rowdy 16130d ago (Edited 6130d ago )

I was very impressed with the visuals in Lair and the gameplay was good to. Just beat it actually. Most of the games that I've played for the Ps3 have been top notch games like:

F1 championship racing
Resistance
Lair
Warhawk
Motorstorm
Oblivion
Heavenly Sword

Mostly all the games that are not ported and half assed.

I do believe in time maybe within the year we will see the wow factor when someone taps the tech of the PS3. But I must say that it's off to a good start as far as in house graphics.

@Captain Chaos- This console is designed to last more than 6 to 8 years it has the tech to allow for it. Why buy another console in 3 to 4 yrs?

darx6130d ago

Unfortunately technology will surpass what the PS3 is packing in 4-5 years.

Bebedora6130d ago (Edited 6130d ago )

I'd say it is worth it after only 1yr and even more when GT5, FF XIII and MGS4 arives

As things look now, I must say that what's coming to the PS3 six years from now and will be improved ever since release - Hello? You just got more value than you can ask for it.

Ahmadinejad6130d ago

well i think sony has to forget about ps2 and its start because they wont competing like a company like MS, they were against Sega and we all know how Sega handles business and their unfortunate problems. MS is a whole different beast and it already established itself as a very tough player in the field. so while ps3 keep promising, Ms has been concentrating on now and keep releasing great titles every quarter.

Also all this talk on 6 years, 10 years is complete PR bullshit which i didn't think people with a brain would buy, i don't care if a PC has 2 quad core cpus, 2 8800 ultra gfx cards and 8gb of ram, the trend which the technology is changing, ion 3 years it can barely run a game. the exectations for gaming has risen so much that people just dotn put up with crappy tech anymore. there is no consumer electronic hardware on the planet that is worth the investment for more than 4 years. but if that makes u feel good about ur purchase believe it. im still pissed off that sony doesnt change its tone and give me good games now so my investment has been worth it in the first 2-3 years.

Dareaver16130d ago

Consoles were never meant to have such a long life span, because there is no upgrading to the hardware. PC's will (and some already have) start outperforming the current consoles. Technology changes constantly, no one wants a 6-10 year old pc, why would a console be any different. By that time televisions will probably have started to change and what you have won't be the latest and greatest anymore.

So I totally agree with you there.

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Infamous Franchise Deserves Another Chance From PlayStation

Sucker Punch rejuvenated the superhero genre with Infamous, a series that focused on the pure fun of wielding destructive powers.

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shinoff21831d 22h ago

Atleast release a remaster trilogy or something to gage interest. I'd buy it. With that said I'm pretty over superheroes at this point. Infamous is still dope as fk though so it'd be a buy

isarai1d 7h ago

Omfg i would go apesh!t for that 😩

jznrpg1d 22h ago

I agree but games take 4-6 years to make so who knows when they would do it? After Ghost of Tsushima2? They could have something else in the world as well in early production who knows.

mkis0071d 20h ago

It's a shame Sucker Punch finally figured out a good open world formula only while making Ghost of Tsushima. Infamous 1 and 2 were great for their time, but Second son felt too much like a checklist in It's design. I love the hell out of all 3 games (2 and 3 are just so damn good, while 1 shows it's age and the ps3 struggles), but I would love to see how they would do another infamous with all they have learned. Wouldn't hurt to release a remastered collection either.

Demetrius1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

This series, days gone, will continue to get ignored by sony, luckily we still have the horizon series, sly cooper not getting pushed anymore, speaking of that I'm bout to get on my ps2 and play some sly 2 anyways lol, but seriously I never woulda thought back then sony would ever cold shoulder most of their franchises I'm actually surprised they're still letting ratchet&clank be around

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Xbox's Matt Booty implies Tango Gameworks closure was partly due to leadership change

Eurogamer: "Xbox's Matt Booty has spoken more on the closure of Tango Gameworks earlier this year."

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The Wood2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I call BS on this. All metrics were met apparently or was that another lie. There's something deeper happening within xbox's management

GamerRN2d ago

You have an inside scoop? Well don't hold back, share with us your knowledge!

AsimLionheart2d ago

He is referring to this tweet by Greenberg which Spencer retweeted.

https://twitter.com/aarongr...

Wood is arguing that MS was either lying then when they claimed the game was a success or they are lying now by giving excuses for shutting down the studio.

The Wood2d ago

What part irks you sir? My opinion that xbox has a management problem or stating xbox heads said metrics were met and the game was a success. They closed the studio that released one of xbox's most successful new ips in a very long time. There's a lie somewhere don't you think or are you the eyes wide shut type

StormSnooper2d ago

I think we all have an inside scoop at this point. MS has lied so often that we all know what to expect from them.

Cacabunga2d ago

It’s xbox DNA to lie and U-turns

GamerRN2d ago

I love fanboy analytics too...

Thank God Sony has never lied to us! /s

Cacabunga2d ago

There is a difference between lying all the time and saying fake shit and anyone else

GamerRN2d ago

Ok I'll bite, what's the difference between lying and saying fake shit

DarXyde2d ago

I don't know that he's lying. The heads at Xbox tend to be forthcoming in painfully indirect ways.

The article notes the exit of Shinji Mikami which I also believe was a factor, but Arkane is a different situation.

Perhaps the issue with everyone's assessment is that, because they closed around the same time, everyone assumes the reasons are the same.

Occam's razor here: Tango lost its value to Microsoft with Mikami out and Arkane just dropped the ball spectacularly.

All being said, Booty is clearly lying about one thing: the notion that anything mentioned in this interview was done "out of respect for the staff" is a bold faced lie. They closed the studio while the staff were on vacation in Japan.

Miss me with that, Booty.

Cacabunga2d ago

You said "I don't know that he's lying."

And later you said:

"All being said, Booty is clearly lying "

Are you ok?

DarXyde2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Spare me the pedantry.

I'm very clearly talking about two different things:

When it comes to telling you about the future or actions taken broadly, they're indirect, but technically not lies. The go-to example is Rise of the Tomb Raider "coming exclusively to Xbox One in 2014." That wasn't a lie, but if you don't read between the lines, you'll think that's a lie. More recently, they tout new Xbox "hardware" which is incredibly ambiguous. It's sketchy, and intentionally vague, but calling it a lie is a bit too heavy handed. In reality, they say things in a way to get you to draw incorrect conclusions and they can blame you for misinterpreting.

I'm saying I don't know how much of what Booty is saying is truthful, intentionally vague, etc.

But on the very specific issue I cite (i.e., wanting to be respectful of staff), he's being dishonest—and it is very clearly a footnote to the broader point being made.

I shouldn't have to explain that in such explicit detail, but clear enough?

SonyStyled2d ago

‘Best lineup in Xbox history’ advertised during holiday season -cancels Scalebound and Fable after holiday season.

Not a lie. They had a good lineup. They just flipped the scripped after holiday season sales. What they advertised isn’t what the customer receives. Bait and switch

LoveSpuds2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I recall seeing interviews where Shinji Mikami said he had no involvement in the development of HiFi Rush, it was a European guy who directed the game I believe.

So even if its true that Shinji leaving was a loss, closing the studio still doesn't pass the sniff test to me. They shut a great studio who had just put out Xbox' best game in years which had no input from Mikami.

MS can't help but lie, they always have, scummy company.

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MrDead2d ago

The gaming media better get on board with these sort of articles as MS buying up the industry means you guys won't get review copies or exclusive news unless you push the MS narrative.

The MS narrative "it's everyone else's fault."

1Victor2d ago

WARNING ⚠️ SARCASM AHEAD WARNING ⚠️ sure they have an awful management with sexual harassment and embezzlement of funds so let’s close the studio we just purchased and leave games in the table. END OF SARCASM
( insert here a comic strip of guy thrown out of window for suggesting firing the management )

Eonjay2d ago

Right. If management is an issue hire new management.

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Fear Effect coming to PS5, PS4, Switch, and PC in 2025

Limited Run Games, in cooperation with Square Enix, will release action adventure game Fear Effect for PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, Switch, and PC via Steam in 2025, the company announced.

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CrimsonWing693d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What!? That is freaking great!!!! I really loved this game back in the day and was so pissed the Remake got changed and then eventually canceled. This is such great news that it’s the original. Will definitely get the plat for it.

Mr Pumblechook3d ago

The article mentions:

* PC
* Nintendo Switch
* PlayStation 4
* PlayStation 5

But why isn’t there a mention of the Xbox Series version?

CrimsonWing693d ago

Yea that’s a Limited Run Games thing like what @Scissorman showed in the article. They’ve tried selling the physical versions of Xsex games, but they just don’t sell. But I’m fairly sure this should be digital for Xbox, if not, then it’s time to drop Xbox and come to greener pastures.

wesnytsfs3d ago

@CrimsonWing69, greener pastures.. Yep moved to mainly PC now myself get all the good games from both companies now if only Nintendo would release games on PC too.

RiseNShine3d ago

so a ps1 game launched in modern platformos, mmmkay. I can play it already in emulators with high res, retroachievements support and more, doesn't make much sense.