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Kinect Dominates Discussion, Gets Double The Exposure of Move

Nukezilla reports:

"Microsoft’s Kinect is proving to be quite the talking point in the run up to Christmas this year and since the start of August it has consistently been written about more than Sony’s Move. In the past four months Move has been written about 737 times, with Kinect gaining nearly double that amount of exposure with 1,325 individual articles mentioning the device."

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Godmars2905312d ago

Yet fails to sell twice as well in half the time...

God, just give it a rest. Stop. Just Stop.

Killed4Less5312d ago

More like sell a Nav = Move sale! Not to mention you need 2 Moves to equal the same experience with 1 Kinect.

Not even something that should be compared since the Move can be piece together and each piece could potentially count as a Move sale.

Cevapi885312d ago

"2 Moves to equal the same experience"....LMFAO

for you to say that shows just how ignorant you are...it also tells me that you have never touched a Move controller

gijsbrecht5312d ago

Please don't let my 2 precious Moves equal the same experience as 1 Kinect. Then they would be seriously broken.

Dramscus5312d ago

It has twice the exposure because the spent 500 million on advertising. Compared to the advertising for move which was probably in the low single to double digits.

GoodGuy5312d ago

So, selling a NAV equals selling a MOVE? Are you a moron?
They are 2 DIFFERENT devices.

ryuzu5312d ago

Actually, Sony specifically exclude Nav sales from the press releases.

But this is N4G - no one reads the news so it's no surprise you look like an idiot right about now lol.

r.

SilverSlug5312d ago

Since there is like, one game that requires 2 controllers to play, you would be wasting your money.

Especially since that game is that crappy Fighting game.

NecrumSlavery5312d ago

Nav = Move sale?

You can't even compare Nav sales. That's just bonus points.

Compare Kinect & Move cause the Nav is just another example of why Kinect games are stationary or rail based only.

ComboBreaker5312d ago

Look at all these articles trying to qualify Kinect and convince others that Kinect is cool.

"Hey guys, Kinect is so cool. Everyone is talking about Kinect. Did you know what Kinect has twice the exposure of Move? Twice the exposure!!! Celebrities love Kinect."

If it's that cool, then it doesn't need to insist upon itself.

Move doesn't need to try to convince others that Move is cool. Move doesn't need to insist upon itself. Move just is.

Rumbanana5312d ago

"More like sell a Nav = Move sale! Not to mention you need 2 Moves to equal the same experience with 1 Kinect."

Yet 2 move controllers and a camera are still less expensive than 1 Kinect. LOL you're XBOT logic astounds me. PEW, PEW, PEW!

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Active Reload5312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

"Yet fails to sell twice as well in half the time"

I don't get it. Unless you're telling me you had that high of hopes for Kinect, lol. Wouldn't Move coming out in September be considered a headstart, lol?

"God, just give it a rest. Stop. Just Stop."

Lol, yes please do xD

ryuzu5312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

Well maybe it's a "right back at ya!" thing.

360 with a year "head start" apparently had nothing to do with PS3 not overtaking it in sales day one.

So what goes around comes around - how come Kintec hasn't outsold the lowly, unmarketed, wii-rip off Move - it only had 1 month head start.

r.

thebudgetgamer5312d ago

" Wouldn't Move coming out in September be considered a headstart, lol?"

yea if wasn't for that head start it wouldn't be in the lead at all right? oh wait.

AnointedD5312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

Your comment makes very little sense Godmars. If kinect had 4 times the exposure only then would it sell twice as much in half the time...think about it, thats what maths dictates.
Kinect however has SOLD in 25 days what Move SHIPPED in a month.
So far Move is shipped 4.1 million in 75 days
Kinect has sold 2.5 million in 25 days. Even if we say Move has sold 4.1 million, that's 54667 per day and Kinect is at 100 000 per day. Twice the exposure, twice the sales in the game time frame. This public service announcement was brought to you by basic mathematics and these quotes..."We are thrilled about the CONSUMER
response to Kinect, and are working
hard with our retail and
manufacturing partners to expedite
production and shipments of Kinect
to restock shelves as fast as possible
to keep up with demand, ” said Don
Mattrick, president of Microsoft’s
interactive entertainment business.
“ With SALES already exceeding two
and a half million units in just 25
days, we are on pace to reach our
forecast of 5 million units sold to
CONSUMERS this holiday. ” and from aaron greenberg<<MSFT says it sold 2.5 million Kinect
to consumers. Impressive that's to
consumers not sell in to retail. #
halfwaythere>>

DaTruth5312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

That math was terrible! It fails to take into account that products tend to sell more in their first month than the second or that Kinects timeframe includes Black Friday, whereas Move's timeframe contains no "biggest shopping day of the year"!

MS is also spending 500 million on people writing about it! I'm sure gaming magazines who are receiving ad revenue from MS are under the impression they're suppose to write more about it to access that revenue!

r1sh125312d ago

its just marketing noise..
The MS marketing team have done better, but here in the UK (ENgland) - kinect has not had as much exposure.
I havent seen it in any stores to try out, the Move ad's are on the TV quite a bit.
I might be missing the kinect ad's, but I havent seen many on the TV - most likely because I work.
I think the difference is in the streets and stores, there is a big 'bonanza' in many stores for kinect but not for move.
Seems like MS bullied their way in.
Its a shame, if Sony had the aggressive marketing MS do IM sure sony would have taken the lead a long time ago.

metsgaming5312d ago

yet the advirtising is way more than 2 to 1 , the discussion should be large that more like 4 to 1

aceitman5312d ago

gee anything would get exposure with 500 million $ on advertising ... come on, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out does it .

Christopher5312d ago

For $500m, it better get more discussion.

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verygoodyear5312d ago

It must be down to the technology. Move, while cool, is basically just seen as Wiimote.

It'll be interesting to see what this is like when the proper games get released.

karl5312d ago

yeah.. the be informed about the technology is very important

the more time it passes more casual people will understand what each one can do..

honestly .. when peple understand what little kinect can do and the rumors spread.. it will sink in sales

Viper75312d ago

Yeah people probably missed EyeToy when it came out, would think even the casuals would be having some sort of dejavu from current Kinect lineup. (shame really, Kinect seems to pack quite nice tech from what I have seen people using hacked kinect for. Bringing objects to a game could be kinda neat. )

bananlol5312d ago

The eyetoy sold about 10 million copies.

AnointedD5312d ago

Source on that 10 million please

Cenobia5312d ago

If you are waiting for 'proper' games for Kinect you are going to be waiting for a long time. I am willing to bet that Kinect will muster maybe as many core games as the Sixaxis-only games have (like 3).

Being unable to use Kinect to navigate 3D space makes it hard to utilize for core gaming. I can imagine a Myst-like puzzle solving game, because it makes you stop at each area, but that is the extent of my ideas for a fun Kinect game.

Move still needs to bring the games, but being included in games like RE5, KZ3, and Socom shows that it is at least possible.

Dylantalon15312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

It's funny that I haven't read or heard about an article which talks about which product is better or works as advertised.

Godmars2905312d ago (Edited 5312d ago )

One just went up:
http://n4g.com/news/655552/...

This just wont stop, will it?

wuerflein5312d ago

Rabble will be roused over this.

triumphofhearts5312d ago

Being completely honest - I don't care about Move, I don't care about Kinect. BUT Kinect in concept and in execution has irritated me more than any other piece of hardware.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain15d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198115d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK14d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts14d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK14d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT17d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits17d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel117d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic17d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN16d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel116d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica17d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14916d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga16d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania17d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts17d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7717d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7717d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts17d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7716d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb16d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow17d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor17d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9124d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7824d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer24d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio24d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9123d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis23d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX24d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn24d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX24d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto24d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog24d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio24d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7724d ago (Edited 24d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx23d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7723d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole23d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio23d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs23d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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