Pachter : Sony/MS Are Lying About Move/Kinect Shortages To Spur Demand

When we asked the Wedbush Morgan analyst if he believed the shortage issues were a marketing ploy to increase demand for Move and Kinect, Pachter told us: “Yes, I think both companies would very much like for consumers to believe that their devices are highly sought after and difficult to obtain. That usually works to spur demand.

“Sony shipped 2.5 million units in the U.S. and Europe, and their sales are nowhere near that level, so I'm not sure how they can reconcile the fact that units shipped far exceed units sold.”

[hiredhelp]

Oh patcher whats your crystal ball tell you next week. please i want to know. (NOT)

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

He must be right, also he said GT5 will be released in december
http://n4g.com/news/643901/...

Oh wait...

[Tony-A]

He even claimed that Sony told him that.

He's either on acid and imagining these encounters with the Big 3 or he's simply getting paid to be a professional guesser.

[erathaol]

Yeah he does get paid to be a professional guesser.

[irepbtown]

I thought he got kidnapped by aliens...

[ABizzel1]

Pachter I have a question for you. Have you ever thought that you maybe just maybe, you don't know as much as you think you do?

[acere]

hhg i trust more than patcher

[room414]

its the mices fault for being genetically similar to us, cows having tasty tit-juice and meat (same with the pigs) and the plants for having edible fruit.

[rroded]

sry dude disagree... both are pretty much jus shooting their mouths for cheap hits...

but at least patcher doesnt try to rap... n never brings his grandma up for sympathy hits...

[DaTruth]

Sony was upfront about having underestimated Move's popularity and not shipped enough, there is no lying there. I have yet to see MS say anything about sales/shortages of Kinect!

Just today there was an article saying how Kinect is sold out and Move is available, so this somehow speaks to the sales of each device on Black Friday; At this point in Move's life cycle it was also sold out.

Having kept up with demand or not is in no way a testament to the sales of any product!

[Christopher]

This is a "no duh" statement. Been saying is since Move was released.

[BrianG]

lol, Pachters son say what?

Or would you like a different title.

Kinect hasn't been sold out yet either. At least where I'm at, and many other locations as well according to others. Its not a bad thing that they aren't sold out, but don't just point to Move, that will get you a label you probably don't want.

[Christopher]

I didn't say that this wasn't true for Kinect either. Look at my post history, been saying the exact same thing about Kinect. Both Sony and Microsoft are doing the exact same thing, talking about shortages to encourage people to go out and buy it before "it's too late".

[BrianG]

Oh okay, well in that case don't worry about it haha. Your comment just seemed a bit one sided.

[velocitygamer]

This guy needs his head shoved up Susan Boyle's ass, literally.

[Anon1974]

Here's the thing. Pachter says both company's want us to believe that the product is difficult to obtain, but the thing is - at least in my city, one of those products IS difficult to obtain, and that's the standalone move controller. A quick check of Gamestop, Futureshop and BestBuy in my city (Edmonton, AB - Canada) shows that the $150 Kinect unit is available everywhere. There are a numbers of stores reporting they're sold out of the stand alone Move controllers.

Let's face it. When Pachter predicted Move sales he ended up not even being close in the US and now he's talking about shortages for both units is an imaginary thing - but at least in my city shortages of the Move controllers are real. It's Kinect that seems to have no shortages whatsoever.

[kneon]

That matches what I've seen. There are big stacks of Kinect, Kinect bundles, Move bundle and the Move starter pack, but the standalone Move controller is near impossible to find.

[Sarcasm]

Real Mod, your obviously the one who's really just trolling.

He said only the STANDALONE move controllers are hard to find. WHICH IN FACT THEY ARE. There's plenty of the sports champions bundle, the navigation controller, etc.

As well as plenty of Kinects all over the place.

The fact is that BOTH are available and the only one that really is hard to find is the standalone move controller.

Read next time, you 12 year old.

[kneon]

@A Real Mod

He said he was in Edmonton so checking all the bestbuys in Alberta shows every store has stock of Kinect

https://www-ssl.bestbuy.ca/...

A quick check of some of the other provinces shows similar results. Move though is sold out in 4 out of 11 stores in Alberta

https://www-ssl.bestbuy.ca/...

[Tony-A]

You probably just did what Real Mod would never do.

Research.

It's most likely the reason why he thought darkride was lying. Isn't it so much easier to just call someone a liar than to figure it out yourself, Real Mod?

[oohWii]

@Darkride - Your lame has no shame.

I can't begin to count the number of times you have made this same statement.

"A quick check of Gamestop, Futureshop and BestBuy in my city blah blah blah"

The funny thing is you story alway end in your favor they are always sold out of your favorite thing and have plenty of the things that you don't want.

Dude, you are so full of it. Just STFU PLEASE!

[pork_chop_express]

The guy rambling on the street corner has more accurate information about move sales.

[JsonHenry]

My local Gamestop has Move AND kinects for sale sitting in the glass behind their registers.

And if they didn't walmart and kmart both have them sitting around as well.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Crap loads of Move and Kinect bundles at Best Buy. There's even 360 Final Fantasy and Tekken bundles from back stock being sold at discount.

[hakis86]

I don't know about Kinect, since it just came out..
But I don't think Sony is lying: a friend of mine pre-ordered a second move-controller a long time ago, and the "expexted delivery date" keeps getting pushed back. I think it says december now.

Maybe both MS and Sony are just stacking up until the last weeks of x-mas shopping?

[gm999]

patcher didnt get money from these company and now have started to use these tactics lol. Patcher is ghastori ma ka bacha kutti ma ka yar dali ka puttar mader chod lun di shakal wala

[cliffbo]

pachter LIES to get even more hits. lol

[chadwarden]

They are? Oh no what will I do now?

[PS-_-GAMER]

Dominican Girls FTW!!

[Motorola]

Thats nice Pachter but I doubt any one cares...its a marketing strategy...so we penalize companies for trying to sell their product? And how do we even know if this guy is right...

[mushroomwig]

I need the lotto numbers for next week Pach..come on, help me out.

[BigBen]

Michael Patcher: Stating the obvious since 2008.

[Neckbear]

...And gettin' paid for it.

Must be nice.

[Orionsangel]

Patcher - New games will come out in 2011.

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

thanks alot, i choked on my food when i read your post roflmao.

bubbles up.

[saumer]

How do I get in on this, being payed to predict the future, thing.

[BABY-JEDI]

First, you need to get a crystal ball. Next, a penchant for talkins BS. After that, youl be a complete PRO...
; )

[DaTruth]

What does that have to do with Pachter? He gets paid to predict the non-future!

[NotSoSilentBob]

You mean he gets paid to take a dump out of his mouth?

aka spew BS.

[BABY-JEDI]

Your such a big bad boy LoL

[rrw]

even if he said true, how cares, that how marketing works, make people to buy bundle so that they gain more money. this what called business

[gta_manic]

...

[Dsnyder]

Where have I seen that before? *coughwiicough*

[poopoojames]

I luv pachter, he keeps me up to date with whats hip and what's going down.

[WOMBLE62]

That's funny because I work in GAME and Kinects have been selling as soon as we get them in and today we had no stock at all. Move isn't doing to bad itself, Starter packs have been flying out the door.

[DaTruth]

Thanks for your non-bias! It is refreshing, given the amount of super-bias in this industry!

@A Real Mod below: The sales to consumer thing is console specific, as the PS3 didn't generate profit on its own and just through the sale of games to the installed base; Consoles on shelves don't generate profit! All games and peripherals generate profit on their own, so they report shipped numbers.

Not hard to understand; Shareholders are only interested in what makes them money!

[TheColbertinator]

lol Move and Kinect? No one cares.Can we get we get the sales of some real games not gimmick accessories?

[JasonX43]

You mean the same way Nintendo created the Wii shortage to spur demand?

[NotSoSilentBob]

This guy is just as stupid as HHGuesser.

[scruffy_bear]

In a interview I read, Patcher called all fans of the site idiots because we didn't believe his bullsh*t

http://www.criticalgamer.co...

[Omega Zues]

LOL

Good to know that Patcher, 2010 biggest failure isn't out of work yet.

[GodHandDee]

a medal!

or a pacifier!

I prefer the latter if possible

[IrishYamato]

Oh Pachter,
you silly man,
you silly silly man,
you silly silly silly man,
you silly silly silly silly....etc.

[Ardorme]

All companies do this with hot products. You don't think Nintendo was building demand by under-shipping wii when it first came out? Or apple with any of it's iphones?

Pachter is a pretty cool guy to hand around but goddamn does he say some silly shit sometimes.

[InvaderZim]

LOL.There must be someone else who can do this guys job better than him. I wanted to why you guys hated him so much (never seen his show...), so I looked him up and Oh My God! He's an idiot haha. Now I know.

[GamingNtek]

this guy is such a douche.

[clrlite]

I love how this guy brings together fanboys from both sides and non fanboys alike for the purpose of making fun of his predictions, rather than each other. It's really touching :: tear ::

[Muffins1223]

Can i get kinect for my ds?

[Clarence]

I have only seen articles and some websites stating that kinect is having shortages. Patcher is full of $h!t.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

No shit? Really? /s

[Soldierone]

Can I get paid to make up things, tell people common sense reasoning, and be wrong 90 percent of the time? Seriously, id love to apply for his job.

[killalot100]

I remember when I worked at a specific video game store. That we back stocked the wii on purpose to sell them during the holidays. We literally had about 80 wii's in the back room and were telling disperate parents that we were out. To think about it I remember having to go to the restroom with stacks upon stack of wii's next to me. Nintendo isnt really to blame for that tho.

[BBAM]

thanks captain obvious.

[Tron_Rocks]

and should be ignored....

[NavySeal74]

Who is patcher anyways ?
Him and hhg i really dont listen to tbh.

He keeps saying things about ps3 and xbox and the wii
Does he guess sometimes i think he does.

[gypsygib]

Whatever PaTcher says, assume the opposite.