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Kinect So Good Microsoft Has To Pay People To Buy It

Microsoft’s Japanese launch of Kinect has predictably turned into a marketing farce of epic proportions.

One eager gamer, Microsoft would have people believe, queued for hours to be the first in line for the device as “I wanted to be the first in Japan to get one!”

Unfortunately, 2ch recognised the man from a previous “this product is so amazing people are queuing all night for it” shill piece – that time the same man was interviewed for the Japanese release of the iPhone, obligingly saying “Well, it’s a worldwide thing isn’t it? You just have to ride the big wave!”

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Blaster_Master4910d ago

They are giving away 1 every 15 mins at Burger King. Makes me wonder if they count those as units sold or what?

panasonic234910d ago

SUBWAY ,ARTVAN is giving ps3 move bundle alway free . Makes me wonder is sony count those as units sold of what?

MariaHelFutura4910d ago

This crazy chick down the street is giving away cats......I wonder if they`ll count.

LOL.

SmokexFFx4909d ago

@MariaHelFutura

Yeaaaaaaaa, hilarious?

SuperKing4909d ago

I don't blame 'em. This thing hardly works, look at the youtube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Boody-Bandit4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

If that youtube is real?
That is the lamest crap I have ever seen.
The game plays itself.

jack_burt0n4909d ago

@super

damn that video, the device continues to try and smoke and mirrors you even after you have gotten it home lol.

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FunAndGun4909d ago

@Super

That was a funny vid. He got a lap record!

lolz if that is for real.

HolyOrangeCows4909d ago

Really, you both sort of make a good point. How many of their sales numbers are give-aways?

I think Burger King is giving away more than Subway, though. Every 15 minutes, I mean, freaking seriously?

HolyOrangeCows4909d ago

BTW, why in the heck doesn't this article have a NSFW tag?

menoyou4909d ago

like i said before and got voted down, Microsoft spends more money promoting their garbage products than they make from profits in return.

and it looks like they are starting to copy some liberal tactics too (liberals often hire fake protesters to manufacture anger and dissent). pathetic,

Zydake4909d ago

@super

thats hilarious the guy does nothing and he ends up 1st place

Masterchef20074909d ago

wow now that is just a sad little game that requires next to no skill to play

RageAgainstTheMShine4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

look at the stuff M$ puts up with just to swipe Sony...M$ has no honor

again again again http://www.youtube.com/watc...

don't forget the tens of thousands E32010 give aways, Oprah give aways, etc are counted as sales by vgcraptz

punkpop1014908d ago

72 disagrees?How many butthurt Sony fanboys?

Dee_914908d ago

@ panasonic
yea because subway give them away every 15 minutes /s

f7897904908d ago

Panasonic23 does have a point. It's not one you can disagree with. Bubbles to him to balance out the people who just kill anyone who doesn't glorify the ps3.

AndrewRyan4908d ago

Don't be idiots. I am sick of fanboy bigotry. It's called marketing strategy, more people try it, more people like it and it spreads like common influenza. Why do you think McDonalds has free coffee this week? So people will try it and probably like it, therefore they will only buy coffee from mcdonalds. Morons.

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Spydiggity4908d ago

i don't get it....

both blaster master and panasonic make valid points. how many "sales" are actually sales. so why does one guy have 100+ agrees and the other guy has 100+ disagrees? i think we all know why.

hypocrites...
if you ever needed proof of what all the actual GAMERS on this site already knew...right there it is.

Dee_914908d ago (Edited 4908d ago )

@Spydiggity and other who are thinking the same i can see how you feel that way
but the difference is kinect was being giving away every 15 minutes .. thats alot of kinects
subway gave out dozens of ps3s
they arent agreeing with baster and disagreeing with panasonic because of the question they asked
who knows sony and microsoft maybe do count those as units sold ( which i doubt because they didnt sell them )
but they disagree with panasonic because he made it seem as if there was the same amount of ps3s gave away as kinect
thats my guess :/

seinfan4908d ago

speaking of devices that play for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Yeah, all the motion controls are stupid.

UltraNova4908d ago

Why does Britney Spears comes to mind?

Oups! I did it again!

Ohh MS..at least u did ur best..

rjdofu4908d ago (Edited 4908d ago )

@seinfan: it's not the device issue, it's the game issue. If the paddle move by itself then that's the system problem. However, in this case, the paddle doesn't move at all. I think the player chose the easiest difficulty, tutorial or something.

Now look at this http://www.youtube.com/watc...
You see? The device fucking plays on its own.

Man, you can only blame the device IF it plays the game for you.

yourfather4908d ago

@rjdofu

GELTONZ
"XD Wow this went viral quick. For those of you trying at home, it only auto-drives if you sit it seems. Trying to put together a follow-up video to show this. I don't know WHY it only auto-drives when you sit (lazy ass mode?) but it does.

Though only driving forward the course does Rube Goldberg you into a shortcut, the auto-driving is VERY obvious when you play sitting down."

so you still think it's Kinect problem not the game?

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Idree4908d ago

Typical M$ Disinformation.
Glad this is out for everyone to see and judge by themselves.

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r1sh124909d ago

the site is hardly 1 sided...
Thats the problem with this site, fanboys post stuff that is clearly based on bias and hate.
Pointless article from a site which is advertising cartoon porn on the side..
I guess who ever posted this likes that sort of stuff

Kos-Mos4908d ago

What`s wrong with porn? Uh-oh I forgot, americans thinks porn is worse than violence.

Spydiggity4908d ago

what americans are you talking about? i don't know one american male that thinks what you just said. way to generalize about 300 million ppl cuz some nut on TV said that.

maybe if you had said conservative christians, then you might be a little more accurate.

Kos-Mos4908d ago

You might take a look at age rating on porn/nudity and violence.

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BrianB4909d ago

wasn't Sony at one point giving away free HD tvs for every ps3 bought at some confrence, they had like 500 HD TVs to give away and like 20-30 people turned up LMFAO, thats what you call pathetic

Nicaragua4908d ago

No, you just made that up.

nskrishna24908d ago

yeah you just made that up..nice try

gaden_malak4908d ago

making something like that up is the true definition of pathetic.

how sad.

IHateYouFanboys4908d ago

ummm BrianB is actually correct - at the UK launch for the PS3 they gave away 100 46" Bravias with PS3 purchases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

also, Sony have given away ~150k PS3s in australia with purchases of Bravia TVs. theyve done the promotion 4, maybe 5 times already. matter of fact theyre doing it right now: http://promotion.sony.com.a...

15000 left right now, and that started at 40 000. the time before this they had no limit on how many they were giving away. before that it was 50 000. before that 30 000. basically, if youve bought a Bravia in the last 3 years in Australia, youve gotten a free PS3.

but i do like how you guys all just said he was making it up without even bothering to research it. well done fanboys, well done.

Cupid_Viper_34908d ago

the first 100 people to buy a ps3 gets a Bravia, is a very good promo, nothing about it seems desperate. And for the Australia bravia promo, it's not just in Australia, and it's not just any Bravia TV, it has to be $2000 or more for the free PS3, as opposed to here, buy a $5.00 burger and get a product which cost 30 times more.

IHateYouFanboys4908d ago

"buy a $5.00 burger and get a product which cost 30 times more."

no, buy a $5 burger and go in the running to win a product which costs 30 times more - big difference.

and no, you dont have to buy a $2k+ tv to get the free PS3. there are ones going for like $1600 with a free PS3 package.

Nicaragua4908d ago

@Ihateyoufanboys.

Im not disputing his claim that sony gave away free stuff to promote a new product. Im disputing his claim that only 20-30 people turned up to claim 500 free TV's - you know because Sony stuff is so shit and all that people wouldnt even have it for free....yeah right.

The ortiginal statement is true but that his fanboy twist turned it into a bug pile of bullshit.

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FOXDIE4908d ago

ill rent that guy next time when I launch my 5$ webcam!

vhero4908d ago

LOL paying people to queue outside to make it look like its selling well.. How low can you go MS..

solar4908d ago

what company doesnt pay people to act like its products are the best? ffs.

elmaton984908d ago

To be honest I have never felt so disgusted about a product from a company who is after people pockets and not their satisfaction. Kinect is disgusting Bullshit that i won't never waste 150$ for it even watching the ads on tv make wanna puke I can't believe why Americans are so stupid as to fall for something so disgusting as kinect I can go on and on but kinect not for me and ill recommend it to no one my hate for it is unbelievable 500$ mills wasn't enough I think they spent a billions dollars to promote a piece of crap and fool people.

Spydiggity4908d ago

have you ever heard of a period? i have no idea what you're trying to say. your immature little rant might have been more effective if you learned how to use some damn punctuation.

elmaton984908d ago (Edited 4908d ago )

Spydiggity my first language isn't English motherfucker pero si kieres te muestro Lo k se me entiendes and besides I was writing out of frustration of kinect so I didn't bother to put periods and shit and thus this is not high school to learn where to put periods and commas motherfucker.

This is a fucking site to write what you wish y no Lo k otra gente diga estupido.

Spydiggity4908d ago (Edited 4908d ago )

you don't punctuate in spanish either. so, you're una idiota y un pendejo. how's that workin out for ya?

elmaton984908d ago

Una idiota y un pendejo now that funny hahaha. Seriously though even what I wrote in Spanish doesn't need any commas or periods read carefully and you'll see what I mean.

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trancefreak4908d ago

Shet Ill take 1 for free nuthin wrong with that. The funny thing is every time I see people playing, It has always got about a 5x8 CSI type crime scene area roped off with some 50 year old homer wiggling his groove thing lol. Next time Im taking a camera for proof!

Seriously though it does look like fun if I didn't have to pay for it.

maxcer4908d ago

@Blaster_Master

its called a promotion, you seem to think that MS/BK will be giving away free kinects' for another 10 years. it was for one month.

i can't see them giving away more than 20k-40k of these prizes. and if your so worried about MS reporting these as sold, why don't you contact the BBB or some other fuked up thing as you seem more concerned about this than anyone else.

number474908d ago (Edited 4908d ago )

Difference between Sony & Microsoft...

Microsoft is boasting & Bragging about giving away free kinects & counting them & hiring people to wait in a line...and claiming victory based on giving them away... claiming the demand will be that great.

Sony isnt. They moved a mill, and said it was what their goal was.. for their Add-On.

King-Leonidas4908d ago

sorry MS is just pathetic... vote me down as troll i dont care

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panasonic234910d ago

Wait so ms paid one dude to come to their kinect launch equal everybody is getting paid by MS.

Moonboots4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

Yes and the proof that he was paid is provided ermm umm.. let me see...

Maybe the guy just wanted one? Maybe this is the way for him to advertise his "occupation" that he can get the job done?

I always go to my anime porn sites to get gaming news. Thanks for the heads up.. Glad my kids weren't around.

Love how it went from pending to failed and now back from failed to pending.. Someone is trying real hard to get this through.. Yet, cannot correct a simple report.

Hellsvacancy4909d ago

Whatever u do dont look, its gone from pendin>failed>approved

TheLastGuardian4908d ago

I can't believe Kinect games are $50. Move games are only $40 and they're actually good games that actually work. Move is the better product but sadly Microsoft is better at advertising so Kinect will sell more. Too bad they won't make back that half a billion dollars. They basically payed people to buy Kinect and M$ won't be making any profit. Why didn't they just spend all that money on something useful?

elmaton984908d ago

Don't forget their giving away kinect on burger king. I want to know if those count as sold units.

Soldierone4908d ago

Of course they do! However Its not Sony so its not a big deal to any of the fanboys defending the product lol. I just find it funny that fanboys are attacking one another using arguments that can be used against themselves. Its Microsoft, they are just as bad as Sony in everyway, if not more, about inflating sales numbers.

I also agree 50 bucks? Even Sony didnt charge 50 bucks when they introduced the first Kinect I mean PS Eye....

awiseman4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

FAIL ARTICLE IS FAIL WEBSITE FAILS ALSO THERE IS PORN ON IT!!

Lost of companies paid people to buy their stuff this is nothing new.
figures this is on n4ps3fanboys(g)
btw subway givs away ps3 bundles btw @ number 1 comment

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elmaton984908d ago

Awiseman you stupid or some subway gave away the move for a week or not at all and to be honest ill go to burger king to try and get a kinect bundle so I can destroy it and turning into pieces and take a video and post it on youtube so everyone can watch it.

nskrishna24908d ago

for a wise man you are a very foolish man sir..

yourfather4909d ago

so how is iphone and ipad in japan?

BYE4908d ago

iPhone is the most advanced phone on the market, so it probably does well.

BlackBusterCritic4909d ago

You'd definitely have to pay me to even consider getting Kinect.

Xusuyzus4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

true bro,.. true,.. but it would have to be over 150usd,..
seen this,..?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Seems most people who defend it, at that price to death.. want to pull others in shit because they paid so much for it,.. Hell, If I am in shit,.. I want you to be here with me,.. basic human nature,..

To those who truly enjoy it, at that price,. and find worth,.. I apologize,.. Have fun,..

DORMIN4909d ago (Edited 4909d ago )

LMAO WHAT THE HELL?

That video just reminds me of this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www....

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv724d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga4d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19923d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21834d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga4d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus233d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier3d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan3d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1014d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac4d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN5d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos5d ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN5d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo5d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies5d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger5d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic4d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows904d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger3d ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto5d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos5d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long5d ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator5d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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