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Alan Wake Did Not Fail

Alan wake the much touted heavy rain killer released with a massive marketing campaign from Microsoft with showings at E3 that attracted a lot of media attention. So far, how has Alan wake fared?

Judging by the story and plot, this psychological action thriller was a masterpiece.

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T9X695327d ago

Well in terms of sales with the hype and what MS was expecting, yea it kind of did fail. On the other hand though, Alan Wake was a very good game, and I think was underrated. Only problem I had is there was absolutely no replay value what so ever, and it was to easy. I don't think it should have done the slow-mo thing when enemies spawned, it totally ruined the suspense, and scare factor of the game.

proudly_X5327d ago

Unfortunately i wasn't expecting anything solid on the sales point, who should?

Troll_Police5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Well, I was told Xbox exclusives sell.

@proudly_AFRICAN

Then what happened with the horrible sales of Metro 2033?

Active Reload5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Metro 2033 and Alan Wake...didn't have a demo. If not both, then definitely Metro would have sold more if a demo was present. Its rather odd not to have a demo but hey, AW is $30 for Games on Demand...

Edit: And for the record...Metro 2033 is f*cking AWESOME!

Unknow_Master5327d ago

well sony fanboy sais yes so i guess it true then!!

NecrumSlavery5327d ago

I personally think the 360 isn't the best demographic for this type of game.

Igneel5327d ago

360 not the Demographic for games like Alan Wake? There Was no Demo for the Game and No Commercials on TV whatsoever. This was Expected IMO. Online Advertising dont cut it.

The real killer5327d ago

Becouse the most 360 players are FPS fanatic :)

ProjectVulcan5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

''Judging by the story and plot''

How about judging by gameplay. Judging by gameplay to me, the game was very repetitive and limited in the execution of what seemed like a reasonably good concept and clever premise.

Not a bad game, but not a masterpiece of a GAME which is what it is, regardless of the quality of its plot

hoops5327d ago

And based on COD and KZ2 and ROF sales, PS3 owners are also FPS fanatics...

Trebius5327d ago

It looked like a fresh idea that could've gone a long way.

It ended up not being nearly as scary as people expected it to be, the whole darkness thing was inefficiently applied, but it worked.

The game was average, but its potential was insane.

Sometimes I wonder what it would've sold like on the PS3, since Heavy Rain was so very well received.

Alan Wake seemed more focused on the storytelling than the gameplay.

Active Reload5327d ago

If you went into AW expecting a horror game, then yeah, you'd be disappointed. I actually did that, until someone said its more of a psychological thriller...there is a difference. Its very Twin Peakish, for those who remember that TV series, and I appreciated it more.

HolyOrangeCows5327d ago

It failed in many senses. It was short, had low res graphics, sold poorly, and required DLC to actually complete the entire story.

Kleptic5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

I hate it when 'masterpiece' is thrown around ignorantly...

It WAS NOT Remedy's best game...on any front...sales, overall quality, whatever...It had an interesting plot, with some interesting gameplay mechanics (although many argue its just bullet time with an emphasis on light)...but overall it didn't raise the bar like Remedy's past games did...

I'm not saying its a bad game...in fact i thought it was great...but its not better than either max payne by any means, and for fans of the developer its a let down being that its all thats been made since 2003...so its not a masterpiece...

I think overall alan wake's biggest problem was an identity crisis...It was marketed as a new game for adult audiences (similar to how heavy rain was marketed, hence the 'vs.' nature of the two titles, despite being completely different)...And was also promised to be 'very creepy'...

and what did we get?...an entirely unscary title with a T rating...doesn't bode well for the 'adult nature' promised through marketing...Add on repetitive gameplay (which is primarily what removed the creepiness factor) with merely average visuals for a platform exclusive...the gimmicky ending used to nail in a franchise...and thats pretty much it...

Again, i'm not saying that makes it a bad game...Its just both MS and Remedy didn't quite know what the game was overall, as the multiple delays and 'back to the drawing board' mid development problem caused it to release with higher than needed expectations...which were not met, but it was no one's fault but theirs...

MP1 and 2 where easily two of the greatest single player only titles of this decade...Alan Wake isn't close to the best single player only game of 2010...yeah, competition is higher now...but it did little to even stay relevant this year, let alone raise expectations of what a single player experience can be...

I'm saying this as a fan of Remedy...I don't care about what console it released on (hell it should have been PC only, and I guarantee the visual aspect of the game would have been ground breaking)...but when Remedy gets in bed with MS with an 'idea' and then fumbles around with it for nearly 7 years...and alan wake is the result...thats not a good thing for anyone...

- Ghost of Sparta -5327d ago

This type of game would have sold much better on PS3. As you can see by Halo Reach and Black Ops sales, two first person shooters released very close to each other but still managing to sell more on 360 than all other platforms, what more proof do you need regarding the fact that 360 users only buy shooters? They don't deserve anything more from Remedy, and even Alan Wake itself was a disappointment after 6 years of hype. Short, cheesy dialogue, not even HD.

Lifendz5327d ago

I don't use sales as the end all be all barometer for what's quality. And I kinda respect a company for giving us something different and new rather than just kicking out more of the same. Heavy Rain and Alan Wake were among my fav titles released this year because both were something new. I only played the first couple of chapters of Alan Wake but was very impressed. Once I get some more money I'm def going to pick it up.

BillOreilly5327d ago

Really it doesnt matter what alan wake and metro 2033 sold they were two of the best games i have ever played. Alan wake was a masterpiece. Im happy i got so many good games this year. Lots of 360 games get no hype look at the dragon knight saga, best rpg of the year, NOBODY CARES. Oh well i enjoy these so i win.

lowcarb5327d ago

Alan Wake was a let down for me but did have some great moments. Metro 2033 was the most underrated game ever and probably the scariest story driven game ever.

ComboBreaker5326d ago

Yes, Alan Wake did fail. Failed Miserly.

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proudly_X5327d ago

not all xbox exclusives . . probably you were mis-informed . . the xbox is a beast for shooters, any fps will sell like hot cake on it

ryuzu5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Around here if a console exclusive doesn't sell 4 gazillion on day 1 it's a flop.

Doesn't matter what game it is, whether its quality, innovative or whatever - sales are all that matter.

Madness huh? That's how every PS3 exclusive has been judged for the last 4 years....

How odd that gamers don't care about the games but only about the sales...

Anyway, in summary, Alan Wake = flop - it has to be, otherwise all those excellent PS3 exclusives are suddenly not flops either, and some people here can't stand that idea.

r.

Mystogan5327d ago

Then why did

oblivion
Dragon age
Need for speed
GTA IV (a franchise that was exclusive to Playstation)

All sell better on 360?,Explain that to me.

I think Alan Wake didn't sell well because they didn't Market it very well.At least not as much as Fable,Halo or Gears

number475327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Also, GTA isn't a Sony franchise. Its been on almost all consoles. NM, i keep forgetting most 360 owners have no concept of gaming outside of halo.

Alan Wake, much like Metro, Crackdown, & Banjo Kazooie, Ninja Blade, Splinter Cell, RacePro, all flop because the 360 audience is saturated in hype. If its not hyped, no one is going to buy it. And MS only has so much money invested in their titles to hype. Its mainly only been Fable, Gears, Halo, and whatever multiplat is the flavor of the week. It used to be mass effect, but now thats gone multiplatform since MS doesn't buy studios to offer 360 owners with a variety of exclusive content.

All Microsoft does it half-assedly pit games like Banjo against LBP.
Alan Wake against Heavy Rain/Uncharted/MGS4. Remember, AW was supposed to be an "AAA" title to showcase the 360's hardware.. (lol)
Prototype against Infamous.. all the time. It offers a place to play low quality games with better anti-aliasing & expensive online.

Elven65327d ago

number47: Protype is an Activision game and titles like Banjo Kazooie have been in development longer than the Sony "counterparts" you claim they are copying.

Splinter Cell, Race Pro, etc are also third party multiplatform titles and I believe Splinter Cell sold pretty well. And Crackdown as sold over 2 million units, I don't think Crackdown 2 did that bad either.

At least fact check before you try to make arguments.

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zeddy5327d ago

people with xbox's want shooters not adventure games.

-MD-5327d ago

Sorry no. I'll take some more adventures games.

JeffGUNZ5326d ago (Edited 5326d ago )

funny you say that. Please explain to me why the number 1 and 2 games on the PSN are modern warfare 2 and black ops? Those are shooters. Maybe it has to do with the popular game type this gen. is FPS.

number475327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

And that rule has permeated through the media like some disgusting virus. Now that 360 exclusives outside of shooters can't hit those #'s, everyone is still latching onto that retarded logic, and applying it to 360 games.

Games don't need to sell 8 mill in the first hour in order to get a sequel. Sony has proven that & bigger quality sequels time and time again with minimal sales.

360 fans have hyped sales since day one of this generation due to Microsoft. But sales don't garner anything for the 360 audience outside of expensive peripherals/hdd/ and online. Where as short sales have produced the highest rated gaming/games this generation which have created the technical bar for console gaming as we know it.

360 owners, enjoy arguing about whether or not alan wake is flop based on its sales. The game sold fine, just didn't do halo #'s. and it was enjoyable. But it was the same thing PS3 owners have been saying since Resistance 1. Thats all that anyone has ever decided about a game in the past, but Microsoft poisoned this gen with Sales or FLOP.

Hell I couldn't tell you how many copies Shadow of the Colossus sold, but I sure as hell know it wasn't a flop.

You guys hung on sales, so this is what you get.

BrianB5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

its funny because when you compare AW to the hype of KZ2 a game which was hyped to do massive COD and Halo numbers, that game barely scrapped a million so you could call that a failure, AW in the other hand was hyped to be a great game nothing more, and guess what it is.

@below

its be cause you guys hype your games to be HUGE, like second comming of jesus, you don't notice it but nintendo, 360 and pc fanboys see it alott, you hype them like the 2nd comming of jesus, every week the hottest articles has at least one upcomming ps3 exclsive, but when there released they only sell a 1million yeah its not bad but there are 40 million ps3's out there and considering the ammount of hype that goes into them your exclusives are commercial disappointments. PS3 fanboys are full of hot air,
if your exclusives are gonna be amazing, huge, prove it speak with your wallets.

Biggest5327d ago

For the record, no one should have hyped Killzone 2 to do Halo or Call of Duty sales numbers. I do remember the first Killzone getting the "Halo Killer" title from a magazine, but it was explained in gaming terms. The people hyped for Killzone 2 were not excited for the potential sales. Outside of people due to make money from sales, no one should care. We were hyped about a game that was able to combine excellent multiplayer with solid online, incredible graphics, and realistic (for it's time) AI. I don't care if Killzone 3 sells 4 copies (unless there are plans for more Killzones attached to the same story line) as long as I get one.

Z5015327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

KZ2 was NEVER hyped to do CoD or Halo numbers. The hyped came in the form of reaching A graphical benchmark. That's it.

Sales don't make the product epic. The product makes the product epic.

If so. The Wii & Britney Spears are the greatest products ever.

NateCole5327d ago

Its funny the advertising card is being used here by x360 fans.

When PS3 games dosent sell 1 million on day 1 they laugh and say PS3 gamers don't buy games when the truth is relatively PS3 games get nowhere near the advertisement x360 games get. Everyone with their cat and dogs know this. However when a hyped x360 game fails commercially they blame it on advertising. The hyprocracy here is hilarious.

Wasn't this game suppose to blow Uncharted graphically out of the water and bring the x360 on par with the PS3?. LMAO!. 5 year in the making with so much promise and hype and yet it didnt live up anywhere near to its hype. This is why its considered by many as a failure. Commercially and critically compare to what was expected it failed. Trying to say otherwise is stupid.

chidori soukou5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Alan Wake is not a shooter, so 360 trolls wont pick it up. Unlike on the PS3. The games there are for everyone. Just look at Heavy Rain, everyone laughed said that it will flop while Alan Wake will sell more. Wonder where those people went?

cb4g5327d ago

@T9X69: I agree, I thought the game was pretty good but I think the slow-mo enemy spawn was necessary for combat, otherwise you'd have gotten a lot of axes thrown at the back of your head.

I think the biggest problem was Alan Wake himself. He was a bit of a tosser.

Blaze9295327d ago

So you know what Microsoft was expecting? Oh please, do tell what they were expecting since apparently you work there and know/knew.

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Alan Wake was not a failure. MS clearly wasn't expecting too much either as they didn't even bother to advertise the damn thing in their biggest markets - especially the United States. They didn't even bother to release a demo (which could have been easily done with multiple levels since technically, everything is a damn cliffhanger).

Who knows what kind of deal Microsoft made with Remedy. If it's true that they are indeed working on a sequel for Alan Wake 2, then obviously the first was not a failure since a sequel would not even be in the mind of developers/publishers if something "failed".

Microsoft was not with this game since it's first day development. They only picked it up what, 1-2 years before it actually came out? With not a lot of money lost in it's insanely long development time and money saved in marketing, this was probably a successful game for them financially long before it even reached half a million copies.

Critically, an 83 on metacritic is a failure? If so, that's news to me.

So in what ways did this game fail? What is your definition of failure? (talking to anyone here)

Babypuncher5327d ago

@ blaze:

"@T9X69 "and what MS was expecting"
So you know what Microsoft was expecting? Oh please, do tell what they were expecting since apparently you work there and know/knew.

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Alan Wake was not a failure. MS clearly wasn't expecting too much either as they didn't even bother to advertise the damn thing in their biggest markets - especially the United States"

did you just try to call out TX9X69 for making an assumption and then just turn around and do the same thing?

firelogic5327d ago

Considering how it did versus Heavy Rain, it was an utter failure. Remedy should have released it for PS3 as well or exclusively and would have done MUCH better. The 360 is not Alan Wake's audience.

avengers19785327d ago

If your only talking sales, then yes it failed... If your talking game quality, and enjoyablity then it's up to those who bought it to decide if it failed or not.

shoddy5327d ago

they have 5 years to make yet it still subHD in the HD gen.

meluvulongtime5327d ago

Alan Wake was failure to me and not just because of lackluster sales. It was over hyped. The gameplay while interesting at first offers no variety. There's always tons of ammo and tons of batteries. There's no purpose in saving ammo because you're just going to lose all your weps every chapter. You can't really play it as a survival horror because Alan is gasping for air after 5 seconds of running. So it's just trotting through the woods shooting up whatever you come across moving from checkpoint to check point to dig deeper into the story. There's no replay value after 1 playthrough unless you want to pick up the extra collectible pages.

darksied5327d ago

I agree. It's not a great seller, but it was a fun game. I enjoyed it more than a lot of released on the 360 recently, to be honest, and it had a good soundtrack. I wish it would have sold more, though, because I like Remedy; I want to see more games out of them and NOT layoffs which is what happens when titles don't sell well.

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Hellsvacancy5327d ago

Well, teh sales sais it flopped *not my logic*

units5327d ago

two are completely different games

proudly_X5327d ago

i didn't say that, but gamers like both of us had the feelings that they share some similarities,

IRetrouk5327d ago

2 compleatly diff games, both in how they play and what they are about, both were very good though.

dragon825327d ago

While Alan Wake is one of my favorite Xbox 360 games, it is not even close to Heavy Rain's league. I may get labeld as a Sony fanboy for this but it's not even close at all.

NYC_Gamer5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Remedy just promised so much and couldnt deliver

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

I still wonder how Alan Wake would be on PC with open world or Sandbox version with DX10 or maybe DX11.

saumer5327d ago

That argument actually works? I always get yelled at when I try to say that...

I need to pick up allen wake. I love games like that, I just haven't had the time.

Godmars2905327d ago (Edited 5327d ago )

Introduced on a bleeding edge PC rig as a sandbox horror title. Of course the "final" version was going to disappoint after that kind of build up.

Tru_Ray5327d ago

The game was commercial failure, but had modest critical success. In the end, nobody was talking about the game a couple months after its release. It was a failure in the sense that it did not have any kind of profound impact on the industry like many expected given the pedigree of the developer.

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Gamer buys 4,000 copies of Alan Wake, none of them work

Alan Wake, from Max Payne and Control creator Remedy, is a horror classic, prompting one player to buy 4,000 copies that don’t even work.

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roadkillers430d ago

Kind of a goody story...

On a serious note, that is why I try activating gift cards asap. It's happened to me where the store didnt scan it right where the card was unusuable. Happened at Wally World.

gigoran8430d ago

wait, that place is real? national lampoon wasn't kidding?

Tacoboto429d ago

I just bought two of the MonsterVerse Godzilla movies on 4K - both had digital copies expiring in 2023. Both were actually expired.

I'd be surprised but it's WB, of course they'd actually expire them

Knightofelemia430d ago

Usually most of those redemption card have an expiry date on them. If they expired all buyer did was buy recycled paper. And some of those codes are country locked to certain countries. I buy a card from the States I can't use it in Canada.

Chocoburger429d ago

Dumb and silly story. She wasted her money for no reason.

Is it really that hard to go to Steam or GOG. She spent $240, when its currently 70% off on GOG, and only costs $4.49.

Gee, I wonder, should I spend $240 on eBay, or $4.49 on GOG? 🙄

Rynxie429d ago

Most likely she wanted to resell a few or most of them. However, it was a too good to be true situation.

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Profchaos429d ago

So in short she paid $240.00 assuming usd for a bunch on unactivated game codes.

I still don't understand why I guess cause there's not a physical version and she wanted something for a collection or art project.

Rynxie429d ago

No, most likely to resell. However, she ended up getting screwed.

Asplundh429d ago

This is Alan Wake 1, it had physical copies.

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Previously On... Alan Wake

Alan Wake 2 continues the writer's story, 13 years later.

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A thermos is upending the Alan Wake community

Remedy has Alan Wake merch on sale, including a pretty blue thermos. Unfortunately, things haven’t gone according to plan, and many players who want a thermos find themselves without one, though it does appear that Remedy is attempting to fix things. Nevertheless, it has resulted in a lot of upset, illustrating just how much the thermos means to Alan Wake fans.

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