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Yep, Apple Rocketed Past Microsoft In Revenue This Past Quarter By Over $4 Billion

When Apple passed Microsoft in market cap this past May, the Microsoft fanboys were out in full force. “This means nothing.” “Microsoft still makes so much more money than Apple.” “Look at the revenues.”

Okay, let’s look at the revenues.

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HuGi4926d ago

u may be dissapointend after seeing the huge sucess MS products will be.

Imperator4926d ago

Did you just completely ignore btk's comment? The only thing that's been successful is their OS. Everything else has completely failed, and I'm pretty sure that if Kinect isn't a huge success, the Xbox brand will be dropped. Sure, it's sold quite a lot, but they have almost no first party, they don't have the money to buy third party exclusives (wasted on Kinect), the PS3 is rapidly catching up, and next year looks pretty much dead for the 360. Unless Kinect has a Wii-level effect, you can kiss the Xbox brand goodbye.

logikil4926d ago

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure that MS would consider Office and the Xbox success stories. MS is only in their second console cycle and they are already playing on par with Sony and Nintendo for brand recognition. If you consider that a failure then you and I have very different definitions of the word failure.

Silver3604926d ago (Edited 4926d ago )

They still made over 541 million in profits. The rest of this stuff is just bragging rights. Outside of Oil Companies, Apple and Google what company's are posting that kind of profit. I heard that stock holders earned 62 cents a share. They made money!!!!! The only real complaint is that the stock price is not higher. Oh by the way where would they be without that Billion dollars from Xbox live. Why in anyone's mind would they drop a business that brings in over a Billion dollars? Do some thinking people. MS is doing great. The only thing people see though is Apple is doing better.

SkyGamer4926d ago (Edited 4926d ago )

I don't believe everyone buys into the apple belief. There are so much better products out there (psp, ds, pc's, etc), apple is like Wii, just following a trend. Let's just see how long they can hold on to that trend. It will be a cold day in hell before I shell out 600 bucks for an ipad when I can get a tablet pc with dual core, 3 gb ram and 250 gb hdd with Win7 for about the same price.

Plus people forget that MS owns the patent to play music off portable HDD which every i product uses and that MS bought 150 million dollars of apple stock back when there shares weren't going for anything at all. Trust me, MS is not hurting at all.

gypsygib4926d ago (Edited 4926d ago )

PS3 has caught up, it like a million behind now only. That's pretty much a tie game.

I don't get MS's focus on casual gaming now, last gen there were over hundred million gamers that bought PS2 which was mainly a core gamer system. This gen's there's over 80 million and growing - it's still a huge market of customers that won't lose interest very quickly and who buy a lot of different games. PS3 has cemented itself as the core gamers system of choice now while 360s lost almost all of its first parties, refuses to put money behind acquiring any more and has completely turned casual in its focus. 500 mill on marketing alone for casual Kinect and not one new first party core IP for next year.

thewhoopimen4926d ago (Edited 4926d ago )

Those Microsoft owned apple shares were sold along time ago. Apple products are well made enough that a cycle of last gen iPhone owners have upgraded rather than migrated.
I think you are mistaking a fundamental concept about apple and lifestyle computing and how or why it is successful. It's great that you'll be getting one of those uber specced tablet systems coming out. Yeah it's nice you'll be getting 2x the speed and 4x the capacity of my current iPad (I'm typing with one right now). But what are we using this tablet for? Photoshop? Video editing? With 1ghz, I am accessing everything on my iPad in less than four seconds... I dont have downtime when i need the ipad for occasional productivity. What does a dual core processor going to do for me? Draw more battery life? A 250gb drive... What for? If I need to do real work... I do it on a workstation which is 5 if not 10x faster with easily quadruple the capacity. Isn't lifestyle computing more about how easily everything works? How I can supplement and enhance my computing lifestyle? With a 1.5 lb tablet... I can do that. In fact I enjoy looking at people lugging their ten lb laptop bags to check email here in shanghai's Starbucks. It's overkill for checking email.

Everybody thinks apple is just a company that makes pretty cases... How are they able to draw a crowd of hype for TEN years now? Are you saying the consumer is that stupid?

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bomboclaat_gamer4926d ago

its funny how these people bash such a successful company
when they can never start a company to be so successful

you dont have shit on MS, never have, never will

until you have your own company thats making profit in the billions
stfu :)

Fishy Fingers4926d ago

Dont mean to be pedantic, but unless you have your own billion dollar company shouldnt you take your own advice?

visualb4926d ago (Edited 4926d ago )

movie critics should be movie directors, actors and producers before they crit a movie

game reviewers should have to be a game developer before they review a game

citizens should be presidents and politicians before they criticize their government

food critics should be able to have their own resturants, and be able to cook better than the cooks they are evaluating before they crit a dish / resturant

music reviewers have to be in the most successful bands in the world before they can judge some of the more successful ones

...

you have officially written the must ignorant comment i've ever seen on this site

well done sir.

FLOWCity4926d ago

I remember when Apple wasn't cool..

gypsygib4926d ago

Apple was always cool, just not in the majorities opinion. I had Mac computers since I was a kid, they had one colour green screens.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 3h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 1h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos22h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN15h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo17h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies13h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 1h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic11h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9010h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 2h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long23h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 1h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 1h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Apple officially allows retro game emulators on the App Store

Retro gaming console emulator apps are now welcome on the Apple App Store and can even offer downloadable games.

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-Foxtrot19d ago

Nintendo is probably preparing their battle stations as we speak.

purple10119d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Yep most probably
Definitely infact

It’s just since apple got official dualsense support a while ago, (ios 14.5, it was 2 years ago now) I thought it useful to post here

fsfsxii18d ago

Lmao imagine thinking nintendo has a chance against Apple

Profchaos18d ago

The beaten quite a few prolific companies the past like universal so it's not unwinable

H919d ago

Nintendo be like: we were supposed to bully them together