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Core Kinect games incoming

Q&A: Phil Spencer discusses how "all genres" will support Microsoft's motion-sensing system, launch plans for the peripheral, controller-based games that use Kinect.

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Zir05355d ago

You obviously haven't heard of TGS.

B-Real2065354d ago

I've heard of it but they didn't show anything but a couple of trailers. No gameplay to show me anything "core" related.

sikbeta5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

TGS? you serious!? what the hell MS showed there that actually worth?

seij5555355d ago

Either way they will all be on rails.

Cold 20005354d ago

Either way you guys will hate.

John-1175354d ago

Either way I'm off the chain

Dr-ZOOM5354d ago

Either way you like sideways

KratosGIRL5354d ago

Either way you'll go pew pew

ct035354d ago

Why are you worried what you look like when you game?

Also, how does waving a dildo-shaped control unit with pink light bulb at the end make you look?

Dread5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

Either way Troll Police will hate

sikbeta5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

Either way I knew this was going to happen

Thanks for the CCCOOOMMMBBOOO-BBBRRREEAAKKEER ct03

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pixelsword5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

@ The Wood:

They did show at E3; some of it was faked footage, though (like the Star Wars faked footage... Wheeze, man if they can do it, then they should've showed it. It only makes Kinect look incapable of doing it).

Honestly, though; I can't see Kinect being used well in a mixed controller/Kinect multiplayer game like controller/Move, but you never know. in a few days many people will know and post clips on youtube.

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alb18995354d ago

To whom? to you?
Why will they proof you anything? a troll fanbuish!

You don't want people call you like that?
then don't act like one!

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CrawFail5355d ago

Pics and vids or it isn't going to happen.

Dr-ZOOM5354d ago

Nude pics or it didn't happen!

cliffbo5355d ago

LOLOL!!!!!!!!! they're playing you all right until the last minute.

Keith Olbermann5354d ago

those xbox fans will buy it just to buy it and then they have the work of actually making something they like.

Adva5355d ago

News: Kinect to use controller for core games!

Keith Olbermann5354d ago

but then they will spin it as a new idea..you know..a controller that uses a camera to since movement. Oh wait...

LoydX-mas5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

over a year and a half ago! Stop pretending that Sony invented everything.
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

EasilyTheBest5354d ago

They will come TGS gave a glimpse, E3 is going to be amazing...
Stop the mumping, we all know you want a try of Kinect really...

Hey, perhaps at next years E3, Microsoft will announce Kinect for the PS3.
Now that would be funny lol

N4WAH5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

We all heard this after E3 2009 when "Natal" was announced. Just wait until E3 2010. MS is going to show the world just how revolutionary Natal will be!" What did we get? Dashboard navigation, a girl talking to her sister pretending "Oh just how cool is this?" and Skittles! <- Which still creeps me out till this day.

I was literally embarrassed for MS considering the media at the showing were all shell shocked. The only applause came after MS announced free slims for everyone in attendance. Kinect (once Natal) is NOTHING like MS claimed it would be when they announced it in 09 at E3. Why are people still holding out hope? This is a waste of money that would have been better spent on games for it's real core audience. Kinect is for little kids, soccer moms and granny.

theIMP5354d ago

@ N4WAH
The same reason the other camp did for the PS3. How many times did we hear "Just Wait Till next Year" from that camp? That's what I thought, what's good for the goose, you ridicule the gander for on this site. How the hell does any of this effect your life anyway? The PS3 camp was saying the same thing for years before good stuff started hitting, why can't the Xbox camp say the same thing? I think they have at least 3 years from the day it releases before the PS3 Fanboy camp have the right to open they're hypocritical mouths.

radphil5354d ago

"That's what I thought, what's good for the goose, you ridicule the gander for on this site. How the hell does any of this effect your life anyway?"

The irony of said statement from the person just complaining about that. :p

theIMP5354d ago

Well Rad, I guess you got me there. Since you have no intelligent way to counter my argument, and can only come up with that feeble response, I will concede to your superior intellect. Nice job homie, you win.

N4WAH5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

answer: nothing.

I am talking about a device that was suppose to cater towards all. Have amazing artificial intellegence (Milo) and be able to play games like Halo on it. Now fast forward to E3 2010 and we have dashboard communications, Water Rafting and Skittles. If this device could do one thing MS claimed it could last year we would already have seen signs of it. Instead we were offered reguritated Milo and a Star Wars game on rails where the character on screen was moving before the person supposedly playing it.

My comment has NOTHING to do with the PS3. I am a gamer. I could care less about the fanboy rantings that go on here at N4G. Read my profile. I am talking specifically about the preconceived notions of Natal to the reality of Kinect. This venture is a waste for gamers like myself that would rather have new IP's, killer sequels, revised old games since forgotten from last gen, instead of billions spent on an audience already taken over by Nintendo.

Kinect has nothing to offer their core audience and I highly doubt time will change that.

theIMP5354d ago

No it had to do with calling out Easily for saying "wait till next year". I know you didn't address the PS3 in any way. What you did address is the excuse, that’s why I was asking you why is using this excuse for Kinect any different than when it was used for PS3 and its games. It was wait and see, next year will be the year and all that jazz. I don't think developer have had the Kinect development kit long enough to have any of the games you are talking about. If you wait and see there may be some coming down the pipeline. I also wasn't trying t imply you were a fanboy or anything, I was just simply pointing out what "I Found" to be a flaw in your argument.

All that aside, I really do appreciate the civilized discussion, instead of name calling, and saying I'm a fanboy. To be honest I can see you point too. Thanks and Bubbles.

radphil5354d ago (Edited 5354d ago )

"Well Rad, I guess you got me there. Since you have no intelligent way to counter my argument, and can only come up with that feeble response, I will concede to your superior intellect. Nice job homie, you win."

Again, the irony in that. You jump to a conclusion, and then resort to personal attacks.

What I was pointing out was that your message at N4WAH acted out as if they had some agenda to go against the 360, when what he said was truthful. Nothing of Sony or Nintendo products needed to be mentioned in an article about a new product for Microsoft.

theIMP5354d ago

Rad, how was that a personal attack? I didn't call you a name or say anything offensive. I guess you didn't see my 2nd response to N4WAH huh? What is it like living in a world were anything you imagine is your reality? Like I said before, you can't counter the argument at hand so you start talking about the irony in my comments. Whatever man, you win again. Now that you've won twice in a row, can you please just stop responding to my comments. I'm sure there is a lot more irony you can find out there in someone else's post. Thank you for setting me strait guy. Hope I didn't take up to much of your very important life. Keep up the good work.

PS Oh, and if you can, point out the part in my post were I personally attacked you. Maybe I missed it somewhere.

radphil5353d ago (Edited 5353d ago )

" Since you have no intelligent way to counter my argument, and can only come up with that feeble response, I will concede to your superior intellect. Nice job homie, you win."

The unnecessary sarcasm responses and "feeble".

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK3d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent752d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM3d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif3d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin2d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent752d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer2d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM2d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused3d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher3d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning773d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay3d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198121d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK21d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts21d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK21d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT24d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits24d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel123d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic23d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN23d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel122d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica23d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14923d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga23d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania24d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts24d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7723d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7723d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts23d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7723d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb23d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow24d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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