Xbox 360 manufacturer says it will support both platforms in the future.
start buying or building more studios then
MS doesn't care about PC gaming, it probably just wants to port over Kinect so it can buttrape stupid people into buying Kinectimals. GFWL is a joke, it's been broken and annoying since it was launched. Nothing good has come from Microsoft's attempt to gain PC fans. It'd just be better if MS stayed out of PC gaming altogether.
The new Age of Empires is pretty good, im loving the beta so far.
Lol true. While Microsoft has been battling Sony. Both of them have been incurring nothing but losses. Valve on the other hand has been quietly building and making PROFITS at the same time. Steam alone has reached a point where nearly 3million users are online at the same time, that easily rivals XBL. Steam numbers have significantly grown compared to the start of this year, where we hardly used to see 2.2-2.3 million people online at the same time. Microsoft and Sony can keep making losses, the only real winner here is Valve. I already forsee next gen consoles launching in the next few years, with a reset base from 0. Steam on the other hand will just keep growing.
Why would next gen consoles restart their live service from scratch ? Live started on the original xbox and ported its userbase across. PSN covers PS3 and the PSP. All online services will continue to grow. I actually wouldnt be surprised if the PS4 used Steam as its community infrastructure - Sony and Valve seem to be pretty chummy these days.
Perhaps even Sony, Valve & Google, what with the new TV partnership. One console to rule them all..
@Games4m Will PS4 games work on the PS3? nope they wont. Thats a base reset. With PC you hold onto your older titles when you upgrade. Even if you dont upgrade there always is the opportunity to play next gen games at lower settings, something Consoles will never get. Hence when the Steam user base grows they have a good chance of keeping their older games (older games will even work on higher resolutions with newer hardware). While console gamers lose out on BC and face a situation where they need to build a library from scratch. Dont give me the crap that you can keep multiple old consoles. No ones gonna be having a PS2, PS3, PS4 plugged on the same tv at the same time. Never mind the fact that hardware eventually gets old and fails. So will console gamers then keep rebuying older consoles or keep paying Sony and micro for upressed rehashes?
"Will PS4 games work on the PS3?" I dont know and neither do you so your point is moot. I think that its highly likely that they will because Sony has had a lot of critiscism over the lack of BC in most PS3's. Still that just my speculation and im not going to use it as the foundation for an argument based entirely on assumption and neither should you.
Classic instance of a publisher saying one thing ("We support PC gaming!") and then doing another (Closing Ensemble, not porting Xbox games like Halo and Alan Wake, etc).
Esemble was turned into two studios so really they created a studio, fact your straight.
Sure, MS. The problem is, when you "support" PC gaming you tend to turn that word into a double-edged sword.
As a pc gamer I can say. They don't have to. Blizzard and Valve (Especially), Have done a fantastic job filling the Void M$ left when it went into the toy business. Also as a pc gamer. when I see "support both consoles". All I see is "make better optimized ports" -_-. Truth is they saw how much Sc2 sold at launch and kicked themselves in the a$$. If they want to get back in the pc gaming industry they need to get in good with Gabe as they can't compete with Steam. Gabe won't allow that until they get rid of the restrictions on xbox. I guess in the end pc gamers really are the console gamers last bastion of defense against the suits that keep bending them over.
It would have been nice to play Alan Wake in HD
PC gaming doesnt want you Microsoft. I'm glad that you see which is the superior platform, but were not taking you back, while youre still cheating on us with the 360.
But I'm really tired of their mitigated string of failures. For some reason this stupid company managed to pour millions and millions of dollars into dead end go no where projects and still be around to suck some more. What MS need to is to fail enough to hit rock bottom so they can find themselves again for a rebound just like Apple did. Hopefully the new Windows phone will bomb big enough for them to wake the hell up.
I don't know about that. Apple rebounded by turning to the not-so-techsavvy masses. They do make some decent products, but their prices are unjustifiable. M$ is already known for being greedy so just imagine what they'd be charging if the shoes were switched.
How many times have we heard this same old story. Show us some action and we'll start believing.
Steam ate your lunch M$?
although I do agree with everyone that M$ is just trying to eat my wallet, I also do believe that if we are to see some good effort into PC gaming, were going to have to stop pirating in which we'll never see in our lifetime since more than half the PC gamers are pirates unfortunately. So in turn we'll never see good effort on the PC platform.
Wheres your data supporting that claim? If your going off crappy devs who make crappy ports to PC and then claim piracy stole their profits then think again. Just look at Starcraft 2 sales instead. Decent Exclusives show the real side of PC gamers. Not crappy half assed console ports.
Welcome to the world that you left Microsoft! Where games live Forever!! And it is up to the gamer to decide when it is time for it to be shutdown! Hint: (Halo 2)
Fable3,AoE are a good start. But MS need to put more games on pc and open more studios to convince me that your really serious about returning to pc gaming. Edit: Bring over Alan wake with all the dlc, GeoW3, and halo reach and you'll have me sold.
This is when you see the hypocrisy of the people of this site. What can they do then, if whatever they do is wrong in your eyes and head. if MS decides to not make to much games for PC Gamers you go like, Oh MS you have forgot about the PC Gamers, and then MS try to show some love to PC gamers by giving them one of their biggest exclusives like Fable3 and you go like, oh no! The 360 has no exclusive because their games are appearing also on PC, even though that the franchise its an MS exclusive because you will not be able to play it on PS3 and you will not be able to Play it in a MAC, so either way your money goes to MS. Yet there is a guy above commanding MS to deliver Halo and Gears to PC, I mean what is the point or is this one of your plots so you can bash MS more with the no exclusive arguments???? Some guys here on N4G are worst than girls with menstrual period.
I don't hate MS. In fact I think them trying to return to pc gaming may be a good thing. I just think that they need to re-invest in studios to make more games for pc and maybe port some games over from the 360 to pc. The only problem I do have with GFWL is you have to be logged into live/or online just to play your games. Which is a problem for me because I have to wait for verizon to fix my Internet connection.
Life isn't black and white, bartender. They don't get cheers for doing something they promised to do then waffled on before. Also, PC gamers don't want Fable 3 and Halo: Reach so they can make fun of their exclusivity. That's what fanboys do. And you should never be concerned with fanboys.
considering I am playing Reach now and will buy Fable, the only other 360 game I bought this year was BC2.... I think MS has to focus on the 360... I bought 3 Wii games and 3 360 games this entire year... I didnt get past march without buying 3 PS3 games
When I hear Gears of War 3 will be out on the PC then maybe I will believe it...
guess they leaving the 360bros behind to focus on kinect and maybe going back to pc gaming lol. if ms keeps up with this, i might as well sell my 360 next year after gears 3. it would be pretty pointless to sell and it would be pretty pointless to keep what shall i do.........
MS just needs to bring the 360 version of Live to the PC with all of its features. Cross game chat, party chat, voice messages, leaderboards, achievements, etc. Make Live interoperable between 360 and PC. Simplify authentication, or better yet, forget DRM totally. This alone would put their platform ahead of Steam or anyone else. A marketplace for downloading DRM free games, with the social network of Live, would really make MS the go to place for games, bar none. Even steam users will admit they would drop steam in a heart beat if they could have drm free games with Live's capabilities.
You know Games for Windows Live already exists, do you? All the 360 features are available on pc for FREE too. The GFWL marketplace is already here too. But DRM free, you must be kidding, we are talking about Microsoft here, they BLOCK all your GFWL games to your account to prevent any reselling or lending. They force you to use Silverlight with the GFWL marketplace. Beside that, every GFWL game already support CROSS-PLATFORM, Microsoft just block it too... They do not want to allow PC gamers to play for free with 360 players paying... XD
I'm just saying the UI and experience on the 360 should be the experience of Live on every platform. It is a wonderfully cohesive user experience, very well thought out. As for DRM free, that isn't entirely Microsoft's fault. Publishers are the ones that push DRM. MS is a publisher, but they also act as a distributer for other publishers with their marketplace. However, if Microsoft would start to discourage DRM in the industry, I think a lot of people would flock to the Microsoft banner consumer and end user wise. Microsoft would have to push the notion that you own your purchased software, not some faceless corporation. A lot of people would respect that, especially in this day and age. Many people are feeling disenfranchised with their governments. They feel powerless and not in control. A move like this would play to their psychological needs. People are also very unhappy with corporations these days, feeling like too much of their lives are owned by them. There is nothing wrong with Silverlight. It is an excellent platform, far better than Flash or what HTML 5 could ever hope to accomplish, and with better developer tools. Again, Microsoft could enable cross platform capabilities between 360 and the PC. Sure, they might have to stop charging 360 owners for Live access, but they would test the market's willingness to pay first, I'm sure. In fact, my entire comment was just to point out steps Microsoft SHOULD take to become an industry leader. Believe me, I think they would see an explosion of support if they did the above. It would be so unexpected from them that people would be shocked and awed.
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