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Ubisoft reveals big bet on motion-control Kinect games

In 2007, Ubisoft started investigating a 3D camera from PrimeSense, a startup that was exploring the idea of motion controls for video games. Ubisoft, the big French video game company, decided to invest a lot of resources in finding out how to make games more fun with new kinds of gestures.

The Nintendo Wii had taken off in 2006, and then Microsoft announced its Kinect motion control system last year. By that time, Ubisoft was well on its way to understanding what was possible with motion-control games, said Laurent DeToc, North American chief executive for Ubisoft, at a San Francisco event Tuesday where it showed off its Kinect games. The company revealed four major games for Microsoft’s Kinect, which goes on sale on Nov. 4.

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Philoctetes5099d ago

"That said, the company has made it clear that it believe Kinect can be attractive to hardcore gamers (its primary audience) as well."

I don't see a lot of hardcore gamers lining up to buy something that can't go beyond on-rails games right now.

Cratos87805099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

"Xbox 360's Kinect 'Leapfrogs' Past Tech, says Ubisoft"

READ: Ubisoft will dump shovelware on Kinect like they do on the Wii.

tacosRcool5099d ago

Exactly with crappy everything. Did anybody read the requirements to even play the Kinect?

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HolyOrangeCows5098d ago

Ubisoft is putting out more software than Microsoft on day one with this thing. What are you expecting? That they're going to say "it's a worthless pos that pales in comparison to other technologies"? I don't think so...

Imperator5098d ago

@bigwheels

It's a LOT more than the Wii and PS Move require. I can play my Move/Wii 3 ft from my TV, in the dark, sitting comfortably down, with my floor cluttered. And they both work perfectly.

I cannot do any of that with Kinect and I simply have no space for it. It asks for too much.

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M4ndat0ry_1nstall5099d ago

"I don't see a lot of hardcore gamers lining up to buy something that can't go beyond on-rails games right now"

I don't see a lot of "hardcore" gamers lining up to play with a wand (move) or no-buttons (Kinect).

Also what were your feelings on motion controls BEFORE the announcement of Move/Kinect? Casual? The fact that these companies offer the ability to choose a control pad or motion controls in enabled games says Move and Kinect are for casual gamers not the "hardcore".

Philoctetes5099d ago

I've been skeptical of motion controllers all along. I haven't bought Move yet. I *might* buy it when Dead Space 2 comes out, but first I want to read some first-hand reviews of whether or how much it adds to the gameplay experience. Same with KZ3.

The difference between Move and Kinect, at least for me, is that I know that Kinect wouldn't be able to offer anything that I'm interested in. The jury is still out on Move.

gamingdroid5099d ago

"The difference between Move and Kinect, at least for me, is that I know that Kinect wouldn't be able to offer anything that I'm interested in. The jury is still out on Move."

To me it is completely opposite. I enjoyed the Wii with the family and I get the sense that those type of games will come to Kinect. I also like the idea of controller less interaction with the dashboard.

With PS Move, it is identical to the Wii except better fidelity, but instead they aim to replace (or at least in addition to) the regular controller. If I pick up KZ3 or Dead Space 2, I will play that with the controller, not the wand.

I didn't care for that type of controller on the Wii for core gamers, nor do I care for it on the PS3. Especially when I can feel the lag relative to the controller and the PS Move wand doesn't bring me any tangible difference in the experience over a regular controller, but actually degrades it.

Some will get hung up on the fact that I mentioned lag is an issue, and I know it supposedly is almost as good as a pad, yet I can feel it while pointing it around. Ruse was far the worst offender (admittedly I tried the demo, so I don't know if the final product is better).

Now if developers would use PS Move to create something unique, something that isn't tacked on and highlights the strength of PS Move, I might strongly consider it.

Until then, I will wait for a sale or official price drop.

divideby05099d ago

I consider myself hardcore gamer and I aint buying the shovelware or Kinect for my 360 this year.. When I can play real games, I will buy it..

Sez 5099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

Well I'm a hardcore gamer and yes I am buying kinect for when I have guest over. And I agree with gamingdroid with his arguement on move. To me it seem more of a tacked on feature for games than for dev's to make a game from the ground up to make it seem more hardcore.

I see many people on this site say MS won't take risk. But to me this is a big risk for MS with kinect. Especially with the fact that everyone expect it to fail. Where as Sony took a safer route with move which has already been proven a success with the wii-mote.

Edit: I know a lot of fanboys ( not fans) glorify the move like it's the second coming. But honestly can you give me a link,poll,forum complaints,ect of people saying they are tired of the wii-mote because it wasn't 1:1 precision.

KingME5099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

Can someone please explain to my why PS3 fanboys have concerns about kinect whatsoever. I seriously can't grasp why they feel a need to fill "EVERY" kinect thread with a bunch of hate and FUD.

Seriously, what makes you guys so magnetically attracted to troll kinect threads, I seriously don't underderstand why you don't just read the title and "MOVE" on? (PUN Intended)

Please explain.

@Alpha-Male22 - you appear to be a well balanced N4G user, perhaps you can share your philosophy on this anomaly.

xAlmostPro5099d ago

i did notice he said he cant wait to see his 6 year old pull faces at it?.. does this mean or prove the exact market kinect will cater for? i think so

Lastcall5099d ago

I absolutely believe that Microsoft Pays their developers for this Kinect to hype the tech up..Microsoft always hands money under the table for getting publicity on their products..Example: Giving each member at E3 a new 360 slim..Closest thing to kissing ass in my eyes..

tinybigman5099d ago

just gonna say hahahahahahahahahaha because i know as well as others that shovelware is incoming in the biggest way from ubisoft. hey ubisoft i didnt buy your shovelware garbage for wii, and i sure as shit wouldnt buy it for kinect(if i was ever stupid enough to buy an overpriced camera).

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Zir05099d ago

Kinects 3rd party support it pretty crazy especially considering its not even out yet. But apparently Gamestop has already stopped taking preorders for Kinect due to high demand and its already outselling Move in online charts such as Amazon. So obviously its going to be huge so everyone wants to support it.

8-bit5099d ago

I didn't know that MS had anything other than 3rd party support.

WLPowell5099d ago

So laser tag, red steel, and rabbids w/ kinect?

I'm sooooo excited. /s

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limewax5099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

Maybe where you are, but in the UK the support is miles lower, all the local shops who are doing pre-order are saying dont worry, just come in on the day as they have way more stock ordered than pre-orders are suggesting will sell.

Cant really leapfrog tech for one reason, MS have never and will never be the leaders in technology, lots of people like to assume because they are so heavily related to pcs that they are the king of tech, false.

Strikes me as marketing BS considering they said that they plan to be the lead third party developer for kinect.... How does it smell in that end of MS hey Ubi?

Im not here to anti, just clear marketing BS should be called

New? lol yeah right. Eye toy hasnt been around since ps2 then hey, guess sony decided to make it when they saw kinect. Its about as new a whitney houstens cleavage. When and if they can make these gadgets work at even 20% the ability of mocap then im interested, until then enjoy your Shovelware games that may as well be wii ports. 2 years ago the xbox people would have shunned this soooo hard, What happened guys? xbox live used to have core gamers, and lower prices.

Try justify it all you want, your getting ripped from all angles and you know it, same as the move buyers who own wii's. Only difference is there is a couple games that are core getting move support, and I still dont want them, same for kinect. But let me ask a question, If kinect daunts move, why are capcom making RE5 move compatable instead of kinect compatable?

Zir05099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

UK is already suffering from shortages too

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/4...
http://www.computerandvideo...

No need to spread lies now ;)

@jneul
There was never a fear of limited stock for Move by any retailer. It only ever sold out because Sony sent limited amounts. Preorders are massive for Kinect compared to Move and it currently outselling Move it all charts and its still a month from release.

jneul5099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

the same thing happened for move game was urging everyone to pre-order move as it would be liited
kinect is about innovative as man returning back to being a cave man, eyetoy been there done it before, adding 3d body tracking is an improvement not an innovation

GamerSciz5099d ago (Edited 5099d ago )

Just one question...What fantasy world do you live in?

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Bigpappy5098d ago (Edited 5098d ago )

I knew he was lying base or previous article I read. You posting those link showed him up for who he is. Not that he cares though.

@bigwheelstuntshow: That has been happening for quite a while here on N4G. The mods are getting a little more even handed in dealing with the attempted harassments form PS3 crow on other members, but this show that they have a long way to go. If you submit news on this site, you might have also noticed that by in large, there are some people who come up with some stupid reasons to report Kinect related news. I will leave it at that for now. Because if it continues, I will bring it to the attention of someone with more influence on the site.

gcolley5098d ago

it is really a representation of the user base, yet PS3 fanboys claim it is the 360 users that are immature. they are at 'religious nut' levels now pushing their opinions on everyone and anyone in vast numbers.

hey guys, use your fricken brains, if there are 100 agrees to a BS statement by an idiot PS3 fanboy, it does not actually back up the statement, it shows the huge unbalance of this site, nothing more. agrees don't turn cr@p into fact

n4g please solve this problem, i am sure the unbalance is getting worse because you fail at controlling the flaming on your site to the point that actual gamers give up on you. can't remember the last time i was able to read decent comments.

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xboxlj5099d ago

That Kinect will outsell Move by the end of the year.

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Hedge fund calls for further layoffs at Ubisoft after shares slump

A minority investor in Ubisoft has called on the company to go private amid a shares slump following the release of Star Wars Outlaws.

TheNamelessOne9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Wait. So you're telling me spending years and years mainly producing high budget, mid games hasn't been working out for them?

staticall7d ago

And the weird thing is, this do-same-thing-over-and-over-an d-expect-different mentality is coming from the company, that was partially responsible for Vaas and his famous quote: «Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again, expecting shit to change. That is crazy.»

Was it foreshadowing?

Flewid6387d ago

This started when AC games ditched stealth for RPG. You can see the downgrade in the visuals when compared, but all 3 sold well so I think they kept saying "fck it, people will praise mid games".

Once it started creeping into their other franchises, it all went downhill. I have Ubisoft + so its interesting going thru their whole library of greats just to see when the decline starts.

TheNamelessOne7d ago

The last 3 games I bought of theirs were AC Syndicate, Division 2 and Immortals Fenyx Rising. They CAN make goods games, but they're coming less and less frequently.

kennyg1237d ago

Why are you still giving them your money??

ElaBosak7d ago

Your argument here does not make any sense considering the RPG AC games are some of the most successful games in the industry.

Michiel19897d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@ElaBosak, genshin impact is one of the most succesfull games in the industry ever, does that now mean gaas/gacha is the best gamedesign?

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RiseNShine8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I don't understand, I thought buggy woke AAAA games were the future, and yet the share is sinking almost 40% in complete free fall since the release of SW Outlaws ($3.76 on 30 Aug, - $2.55 today), it's brutal.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Ubisoft has really gone downhill because of the Guillemot family’s bad decisions. They’ve completely lost touch with what gamers actually want, focusing way too much on microtransactions, buggy releases, and XP boosters. It’s like they think these quick cash grabs are the future of gaming, and they don’t care that most of us aren’t comfortable with the idea of not owning our games anymore. The stupid comments they’ve made, along with the idiotic choices, have led to a massive drop in their stock—over 40% since *Star Wars Outlaws* launched. Honestly, I think the only way Ubisoft can improve is if the Guillemots sell the company. They’re holding it back.

Jingsing7d ago

Yeah, They have gone into that downward spiral of bad products and trying to chase every penny to make up for it while being anti consumer in the process.

neutralgamer19927d ago

All these companies want to squeeze very penny out of their customers instead of over delivering like a lot of them used to do

Goozex8d ago

Go woke you go broke! The gamers have spoken

IAMRealHooman8d ago

or its a buggy bland game, with horrible AI, bare bones mechanics, awful animations, and a predictable boring story

northpaws7d ago

Woke is not the main problem... Ubi games are just so boring now...

Walalon7d ago

Yeah... Woke it's just one of the list why Bugisoft it's struggling so much.

Charlieboy3337d ago

Woke IS a big reason because people are being hired based on their skin colour, gender, what they like to screw and how much they like to play pretend in their heads......instead of their actual skill. Which is why you get a boring, buggy, technically all round crap product like this and all the other steaming piles like it.

Mr_cheese8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

When creativity is replaced by a formula, sooner or later people tend to clock on, especially if the end result is continued mediocrity.

The IPs that ubisoft own have and had so much potential to be more than what we got, it's crazy. Watchdogs is a great example. How refreshingly different that looked when the original was announced and what did they do? Chased away all originality and replaced it with what ever insert people choose to call it.

Make less games if you're making too many but really put the time and focus into making each release standout in its own way instead of being generic reskinned worlds.

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Ubisoft Faces Pressure to Go Private as Share Prices Plummet

Ubisoft's significant shareholder, AJ Investments, is pressuring it to go private. The shareholder suggests a cost-cutting plan and advises replacing the company's CEO, Yves Guillemot.

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XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

Ubisoft needs to be an indie studio or just become like cd project.

isarai10d ago

Going private might honestly be the best

neutralgamer199210d ago

To go private they would need a lot of money so a better option is get acquired by someone and get rid of the current family who controls the company. Nepotism in that company up and down the leadership ladder

CrimsonWing6910d ago

Hey Ubisoft, have you maybe thought to start listening to consumers now?

Demetrius10d ago

Doubt that'll ever happen lmfao

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Ubisoft share price falls to 10-year low after Star Wars Outlaws launch

Ubisoft's stocks have taken a hit following the release of Star Wars Outlaws, having fallen by more than 10% in two day…

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isarai11d ago

Cool! At this point i just want all these trash "AAA" publishers to die. They've more than earned it with all the lies and consciously instilling what is essentially gambling addictions into customers including children. Let'em burn, we'll be better off for it.

LordoftheCritics11d ago

I mean they made it happen for themselves.

Well done I guess??

isarai11d ago

I don't get the sudden surge of Ubisoft Defense on here lately, i swear there's bots out here defending them or something 😅

VenomUK11d ago

If Ubisoft includes more diverse characters so gamers can see themselves on screen, then it will appeal to more people.

Obscure_Observer would like the option to have blue-hair options for their characters.

MajorLazer11d ago

I wouldn't want them to die, because that's 20,000 people out of a job but I would hope they see it as a massive wakeup call.

Crows9011d ago

20,000 prospects for new indie studios or support for other good established devs. Could be a huge win for the industry in the long run.

Losing a job isn't fun but it happens. Adults deal with it.

seanpitt2311d ago

Most of there games is all quantity over quality.. it puts people off star wars for eg looks good had some great ideas but the main execution was done so poorly and the combat needs to be better! The same team that did the division games which had great combat and gameplay!

Skull and bones wow that should have been cancelled, AC Valhalla was a disaster in terms of the grind and how it felt so boring after 10 hours! Watchdogs was very poor

Let's just hope shadows is there Saviour odessy was a good game overall not much AC in it though!

This has all been brought on themselves bad management and direction with mediocre games

Michiel198911d ago

I think they got a sum of money from a country to help with development for Skull and Bones, they had to pay them back if they were going to cancel it. I imagine that's the only reason they kept going with development

AshleeEmerson9d ago

I agree with this, (I know they make plenty of good games) the only game I can give high praise to is Avatar Pandora; this game nailed it for me. One of the best to come out of this generation.

neutralgamer199211d ago

They introduced XP boosters because they were making their games more grinding on purpose. The artificial enemy leveling system made sure no matter what you ere always a level or 2 below the enemies. 3 day early releases, 5-10 different editions of each game for release

UBI and WB games needs to be bought out by someone. Both are full of greed

BISHOP-BRASIL10d ago

You think a company looking at acquisitions of this caliber somehow would come with a less greed management? LOL

EazyC11d ago

The best thing that could happen to videogames is a big fat crash

jznrpg11d ago

Instead of them dying off it would be better for them to change their practices and give gamers what they want

neutralgamer199210d ago

A crash would bring on real changes but a crash would never happen because of how big this industry has become. End of the day way too many investors get into buying stocks only for money. They could careless about quality of games all they want to see is a spreadsheet full of profits

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darthv7211d ago

Just about time for MS to step in and consolidate the industry even further..... /s

just_looken11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

ten-cent/ owns 49% so they would take the rest
https://www.globenewswire.c...

Jingsing11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That would essentially be like one arm of the US government owning Ubisoft and the other half being the Chinese government. Wouldn't happen unless the US force Tencent to sell their half. Which these days doesn't seem unommon. This why it is hard to see the difference between companies like Microsoft and Tencent and partly why they are not popular.

TheNamelessOne11d ago

And yet they make absolutely no changes to how they do things. Not going to feel bad for them. Would rather see their IP in fresh hands anyway.

DarXyde11d ago

I think that comes from the top down. It's a shame the talent would suffer.

CantThinkOfAUsername11d ago

Can you name a publisher that has money and talent to pump into these dormant IPs with uncertain outcome?

Are you happy with how TimeSplitters and Deus Ex ended up in 'fresh hands'?

TheNamelessOne11d ago

Embracer was a failed experiment that destroyed themselves spending money they didn't have.

Chocoburger11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Good, burn yourselves up.
Ubisoft, a long time ago you were a great publisher, but over the past decade you've gone out of your way to create these protracted, filler experiences, and pack them with micro-trash-actions.

You intentionally create a problem with grindy slog fake 'RPG' games, and then you sell the solution for $10 in order to accrue EXP at what should have been the normal rate. Another $10 to accrue resources at a normal rate as well.

Create a problem, and charge extra for the solution. Nope, you don't get my money anymore. And the people who defend your shitty games don't realize that they're screwing themselves over, wasting their lives on low-end junk-tier games.

porkChop11d ago

Honestly, good. Ubisoft has continued to ignore its customers and has repeatedly doubled down on the kinds of things gamers don't want. They've had every opportunity to turn things around and refused. The devs themselves are super talented, but the management and the Guillemot family both need to go. Just last year Yves told all the devs that 2023 was a crucial year and that the ball was in their court to deliver on their games. Yves, you've been holding the ball the entire time.

jaymacx11d ago

I agree with you mostly, I do see that some people must have been buying the micro transactions at some point for them to keep doing it. I would put Take Two in the same category. Only difference is 2k games sell very well. Ubisoft however gets the most attention for complaints because the quality of their games has dropped and are in desperate need of redirection.

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