Numbers, Graphs, and Lists, Oh, My!

Technophilia has charts showing the number of games in development by each platform. The lists in the following entry are also interesting.

[ironwolf]

Lots and lots of flame bait here. This should be fun!

[wakkiwakko]

Cute.

[specialguest]

lets wait here behind the bushes while they gather their troops of stooges to debate the same old issues on a different battle ground. this should be interesting. oh and remember..SHhhhhh! don't talk to loud or they'll hear us.

[Shadow Flare]

Yeah, how many comments do you reckon this article will get? I'm thinking maybe 100-150. Remember that time the motorcross article got 1000+ comments? geez

I actually think this is a really great article and its really good to see everything shown laid out flat for once.

But my god, the ps2 is such a great console! Freakin hell, 5277 games published for it? When i see the hard-core facts, it's so easy to see how the ps2 absolutly abolished the competition

But before everything starts going completely ape with the ps3, i'll say that alot of those stats are alot to do with the xbox 360 being released a year in front of the competition. And also that the ps3 is apparently difficult to program for, which would put off some developers. But things aren't looking bad for the ps3 at all. Its got more than enough great exclusives to give it a good start and with time (like the 360 had), the ps3 should grab more exclusives

[Eternal E 808]

it dosent matter if the 360 was out for almost a year because the list is what is being dev for each console.

[TheMART]

And a large percentage of that PS2 games were largely crap, a pile of sh*t of games. So I rather have some less but good ones than all those DVD's that can be used as frisbees.

Furthermore, saying the 360 is released a year in front and therefore has more exclusives. Well. The PSZero and the 360 were announced at the same time around E3 2005. So I guess that's a bit dull to say. They had the same amount of time to get things done and ready, but 360 has almost double the exclusives of a PS3.

If you want the most and the most exiting exclusives, it's just on 360. Simple. If you want the sequel on sequel Sony repeating stuff and less exclusives get a PSZero.

Final Fantasy 489647
Tekken 6
Ridge Racer 7
Virtua Fighter 5
MGS4
full auto 2 (blarghhh)
GT4 HD smugged up PS2 version
GT5

Sony get something new. MS with it's 360 has all the creative innovative stuff.

Gears of War
Viva Piniata
Lost World
Crackdown
Too Human
Fable 2
Alan Wake
Condemned
Kameo
Forza 2
Dead Rising
Oblivion

And more... Just to be fair: almost double the exclusives and they are just very good. PS has a problem period

[Lucidmantra]

Unless games are developed first party of the studios are bought I dont see a real gain on exclusive titles. COmpanies want to make money and with games costing more and more to develop for you will see games be time exlusives, not console exclusive. Games that are traditionally Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft might find their way to other consoles. The die hard traditionals will stay where they are. Heck Solid Snake in Bash Brothers on Wii. They will mulitplatform because i think companies like EA, Ubisoft, Activision see this isnt going to be a run away win for anyone at least for the first 2 years. And that is the real deal they will bet with two/three chips untill their gamble is safer on one after middle next year when the dust is settling. If the PS3 is already at 115 million and 360 it at 10 they you will see a change. If it is all pretty even they might crossplatform longer untill their money is WELLL GAMBLED on a machine.

[ghostface]

MAN I JUST WATCH ULTRAVIOLET ON THE SAMSUNG BLURAY PLAYER. AN MAN DID IT BLOW ME AWAY. IM SOLD. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PS3. NOTHING BUT BLURAY MOVIES FOR ME.

[TheMART]

Go watch HD-DVD then. That's even better quality for half the price on standalones.

You'll be flabbergasted even more

[blackmagic]

that's how far you would have to move your pinky from the 'A' key in order to not sound like an idiot. Turn off the damn caps!

[timmyp53]

HAHA ps3

[TheMART]

With the same sh*tty quality as the PS2 DVD drive was

haha

[Boink]

no surprises on the numbers, I though wii would be higher on the exclusives. but MS has been hard at work getting the exclusives. the scary part is that it doesn't mention the XBLA titles, which must be another 100+.

[JIN KAZAMA]

The exclusives. I am sure the 360 will have some pretty badass exclusives, but as of right now, i dont see any reason to buy a 360. But the PS3 also has its share of exclusives, which i am more than satisfied with. Game on people.

[USMChardcharger]

Jin my pal...loved our Rb6 debates (stayed mature).
your right, lot of bad a$$ exclusives for the 360 right now. you seem to be a gamer first...why not get the 360 and wait for the PS3 to go down in price.
if history shows...you will not miss anything because sony will be supporting the next PS for a long time.
enjoy some PC/360 stuff...then get your PS a year or two later for the unique set of PS games.

i understand though...if you are like me...not enough money and you have to chose one.

[TheMART]

I am sure the PSZero will have it's share of bad exclusives also, I am pretty sure

Tekken 6? N64 graphics
Whipeout 6 hahaaaa
RRrrrriidddggeee Racceerrrrr
Genji 2 get the weak point of the giant enemy crab
Full Auto 2? mhoahahahaaaa

Probably some bad exclusives around, but the 360 got the hottest new one

Gears of War

And that's undeniable. Go watch all the E3 awards it got

[JIN KAZAMA]

Honestly, I just dont see any games I want for the 360. Although, i must admit, test drive looks like a awesome concept. But thats the only game I see, and dont want o spend my 400 bucks for that just one game. I can get all three consoles actually. But just because I can, doesnt mean I should. I am waiting for the PS3, I see their launch lineup is lookin pretty tight.

[TheMART]

Then you're blind or you just like only racing games. With 82 exclusives counted on the website, there should be more you like compared to about 40 for PS3.

But well, taste is taste. For example, I don't understand the Sony fanboy love for MGS. I mean, play 4 seconds, watch movie 30 seconds. Play 2 minutes, watch movie for 5 minutes. It's freaking dull! And MGS2 came to XBOX. Well great. Halo never got to PS. I guess that says it all. Even the hottest exclusive is never a really safe exclusive on PS. On XBOX it is. Halo will never be on PS. Gears of War also. That's taking care of your customers.

But well. I am really looking forward to November.

Can you tell me, what will compete on the demopods with Gears of War and Forza 2?

Name me a few games that are there at launch that can let people buy a PS instead of those great exclusives and a 360. I don't see them at all

[JIN KAZAMA]

man, that thing looked SWEET. I cannot wait.

[USMChardcharger]

wow. i don't care what anyone says. 360 titles are just unbelieveable.
lot of canceled titles (all around). developers are really looking at numbers aren't they?
lot of games not mentioned though...anyone notice (for example fear)

i noticed one title that raised my eyebrows...and it was for PS3. Wizardry...how many old timers fired up DOS and played that one. (my hand is up)

[TheMART]

Even the Wii has more exclusives then the PSZero hahahahaaaaaa

The 360 almost has double the amount of exclusives. That's not only because it's out for a year when PS3 launches. The two consoles were announced about on the same time.

So no excuse, PSZero looses on exclusives big time. Most exclusives, best new exclusive (Gears of War) sells systems

[mikeeno7]

The Mart has arrived to give us more stupid fanboy gibberish! Conversations were going well until you showed up. Go back to your 360.

[DG]

PS3

Virtual Fighter 5
The Getaway
Metal Gear Solid 4
Genji 2
Devil May Cry 4

Nintendo

Mario Kart
The Simpsons

360

Command & Conquer 3 (PS3 Bound!)
Dead Rising
Gears of War
Lost Planet
Mass Effect
Saints Row (PS3 Bound?)
Test Drive Unlimited (PS3 Bound not Unlimited though)

Burnout Revenge Etc. (This is g@y, yes its an exclusive but thats only because the other consoles werent out yet the were guaranteed to be ported, so we can bring the number down a bit) And YES your read that right HALO IS NOT on there. My personal pref never liked one or two.

Honestly each console has its own style I prefer Sonys better but I already own a 360. And I would love to rent a weeeeee.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

saints row nor command and conquer is ps3 bound.

[JIN KAZAMA]

Please, do us all a favor, go away, you give 360 gamers a bad name.

[TheMART]

No I just had to puke how you like to have Barbie Ken up all of your @rses. I mean they let you pay a lot for the system and it has so few exclusives and most of them not exiting enough to pay 600 bucks for that is.

That's my opinion and I may say so. That's why comments can be put up. If it's all only Sony fanboys it gets dull in the end...

Yeah Barbie Ken, take me again
And again. Yeah you raped me with the PS2. Yeah the emotion engine didn't work, no the online gameplay wasn't what you promised, yup the Dreamcast and the XBOX had better graphics. But still we believed you man. Now you're throwing TFLOPS story in again on PS3. Same lying as with PS2. Great online free network. Did we here this before? Doesn't matter Barbie Ken, take us again, please do it

[DG]

we like a lil barbie on ken action. Not all of us like it anal like you marty! Because that comment was pretty g@y!

[DG]

How low can you blow?

[TheMART]

Even lower:

"the fact the Sony is behind even the Nintendo Wii does indicate (as does our last post) that the PS3 may have the smallest library of games."

Damn, that's really low. It's impossible to go lower

[JIN KAZAMA]

its awesome, its on a HD-DVD disc, its looks so awesome. I think its 1080p, and the action and acting is just plain genious people. WATCH IT

http://video.google.com/vid...

[mikeeno7]

I agree with you Jin, the Mart is a pathetic example.

[JIN KAZAMA]

Arent you one of those people that got caught in the dateline investigation, to catch a predator.

[TheMART]

Console Install Base

Take 60% off the Sony Base because of sh*tty DVD drives that broke down within 1-2 years

[AuburnTiger]

Have you ever heard of the Red Ring of Death on the XBOX. At least on the ps2 you could fix it yourself.

[TheMART]

"the fact the Sony is behind even the Nintendo Wii does indicate (as does our last post) that the PS3 may have the smallest library of games."

Just admit it, it's really very sad to see

[JIN KAZAMA]

its all so clear now, its all so clear. Now leave.

[TheMART]

PS3: 43
Afrika (if you want nature, put on discovery)
Angel Rings
BladeStorm
Coded Arms Assualt
Devil May Cry 4
Eight Days
EyeDentify
Fatal Intertia
Fifth Phantom Saga
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Formula One
Full Auto 2 (have it)
Genji 2 (the crab thing? that's crap man)
Gradius
Grand Turismo 5
Gretzky NHL
Heavenly Sword
Hot Shots Golf 5
Jak and Daxter
Killzone 3 (oh really? When? No CGI PLEASE!)
Lair
L.A. Noire
Metal Gear Solid 4 (dull gameplay actually)
Mobile Suit Gundam
Monster Hunter 3
Monster Kingdom
Motor Storm (it doesn't look like the CGI shown)
Naughty Dog (working title)
Ni-Oh
Ratchet and Clank 5
Redwood Falls
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7 (haha that's a joke)
Shin Megami Tensei
Tekken 6 (hilarious N64 graphics)
The Eye of Judgement
The Getaway
Untold Legends
Virtual Fighter 5 (my Commodore 64 would be ashamed to put out those graphics)
WarDevil Enigma
Warhawk (the only movement game?)
Wizardry

And how many of those will be there @ launch this Christmas? Of the good ones I mean. To compete with Gears of War and Forza 2? mmhhhh

[TheMART]

Wii: 55
Animal Crossing
Battalion Wars
Bleach
Bob Ross: The Joy of Painting
Bomberman Land
Bust-a-Move Revolution
Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends
Darkness
Digimon Wii
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Donkey Kong
Dragon Quest IX
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Elebits
Excite Truck
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - Crystal Bearers
Final Furlong
Fire Emblem
Godzilla
GT Pro Series
Harvest Moon
Hero's
Mario Kart
Mario Paint
Mario Party 8
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Mr. D Goes to Town
Necro-Nesia
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Orb
Pilotwings
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
Raid over the River
Red Steel
Sadness
SD Gundam G Breaker
Sengoku Action
Shrek the Third
Sonic Wild Fire
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Strikers
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Swing Gold Pangya
Tamagotchi
The Simpsons
Thorn
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Untitled LucasArts project
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves
Wii Music
Wii Sports
Wii Jet Ski

360: 78
1XR
Alan Wake
Amped 3
APB
Banjo Threeie
Battle Angel
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
Bioshock
Blue Dragon
Bomberman Act Zero
Bullet Witch
Burnout Revenge
Call of Duty 2
CellFactor
Chrome Hounds
Command & Conquer 3
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Crackdown
Dance Dance Revolution Universe
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2
Dead Rising
Dog Tag
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Elveon
Enchanted Arms
Every Party
Fable 2
Fight Night Round 3
Final Fantasy XI
Football Mangaer 2006
Football Mangaer 2007
Forza 2
Fusion Frenzy 2
Gears of War
Godfather
GTR
Halo 3
Huxley
Kameo
Kane and Lynch: Dead Men
Killer Instinct
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth
Lost Odyssey
Lost Planet
Mass Effect
Mobile Ops: The One Year War
Monster Madness
MotoGP 2006
Naruto
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Ninety Nine Nights
Ninja Gaiden 2
Over G Fighters
Perfect Dark Zero
Phantasy Star Universe
Prey
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Rumble Roses XX
Saints Row
Shadowrun
Superman Returns
Table Tennis
Tenchu 360
Test Drive Unlimited
The Dimitri Project (working title)
The Outfit
Theseis
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Too Human
Top Spin 2
Trusty Bell: Chopin's Dream
Two Worlds
Viva Pinata

[TheMART]

PS3 just got pwned big time

http://www.pwned.nl

[JIN KAZAMA]

When people say pwned, what does that mean. I undertand owned, but why the P?

[Fat Onion]

its a typo i guess

[CAPS LOCK]

the wii is much easier to develop for than the ps3, and i see no reason in getting a x-box, why the ony thing i am missing out on is force feedback, almost all x-box 360 games including halo will come on the pc so there is no poin either, and the mart u said that the ps2 had alot of titles and they where sh'tty, but the same goes for the 360, viva pinyata? and kameo? pff they are crappy, i am getting the ps3 because there is more choice of games, i dont have to stick to 30 shooters 2 racers 1 rpg and games that where made 10 years ago that the 360 games offer. and i dont have to pay for playing oblivion online unlike u suckers that pay x-box live yearly ha ha ha ha.

[TheMART]

You should really look into Viva Piniata and Kameo. They are better then most of PS3's exclusives. But I guess you'll never know. That's called diversity.

Gears of War, blood and gore on one side and Viva Piniata without blood, but hitting Piniata's on the other side.

You'll be flabbergasted, but Viva Piniata will sell more consoles to girls and younger fans to largen it's fanbase from Halo/Gears of War older gamers. Kameo about the same, but the fun thing is, both games can even be great for the original target group. You know why? Because the innovativity is very high in the games.

BTW it's very funny how you can say, seeing the list of 80 exclusives for 360 that there are 30 shooters, 2 racers and 1 RPG on.

And the best thing is: name me some things that you get for free that have high quality. There aren't much. You know why? Premium stuff will cost money.

If PS3 online will be free for sure actually I would start to worry as a gamer.

But I guess they'll charge you in the end, only basic functionalities are for free. As in XBOX Live Silver

[kewlkat007]

How can a sony Fanboy cry about lack of titles on the 360?. All this Sony "propaganda" is "popostrous" I tell ya.

Funny how Sonyfanboys know more that Sony about the PS3 and thier free online crap. Just wait you'll see a price. Nothing free is ever great always downgraded and can we say BASIC.

Sony already has a huge game library of Tekken 19273, Granpa snake, FF 272836, where is the new and next-game games?

[ghostface]

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET A F**KING LIFE.

[DG]

That guy on the cartoon probobly is themart!

[CAPS LOCK]

so impressive u can copy and paste the article that we just read, is that even relevant?

if the ps3 came out instead of the 360 a year earlier u wont see me on this website dissing the 360 because i dont care about it the ps3 is the best 2 me, u wouldn't even see me on this website maybe once a year, so before u say the 360 is entertaining the fart, i think u should reconsider and jump out.

[TheMART]

Some souls just need to be saved that's all hahaaa

[SDS Overfiend]

Mart Said:
Afrika (if you want nature, put on discovery)
Angel Rings - Yeah Whateva
BladeStorm - Yeah Whateva
Coded Arms Assualt - Yeah Whateva
Devil May Cry 4 - Nowhere near development and for this Capcom has a Failing out with sony.
Eight Days -Yeah Whateva
EyeDentify - Whateva Nucca
Fatal Intertia - Yeah Whateva
Fifth Phantom Saga - Yeah Whateva
Final Fantasy XIII - Yeah Whateva
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Formula One
Full Auto 2 (have it)
Genji 2 (the crab thing? that's crap man)
Gradius
Grand Turismo 5
Gretzky NHL
Heavenly Sword
Hot Shots Golf 5
Jak and Daxter
Killzone 3 (oh really? When? No CGI PLEASE!)
Lair
L.A. Noire
Metal Gear Solid 4 (dull gameplay actually)
Mobile Suit Gundam
Monster Hunter 3
Monster Kingdom
Motor Storm (it doesn't look like the CGI shown)
Naughty Dog (working title)
Ni-Oh
Ratchet and Clank 5
Redwood Falls
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7 (haha that's a joke)
Shin Megami Tensei
Tekken 6 (hilarious N64 graphics)
The Eye of Judgement
The Getaway
Untold Legends
Virtual Fighter 5 (my Commodore 64 would be ashamed to put out those graphics)
WarDevil Enigma
Warhawk (the only movement game?)
Wizardry

Yes None of these a Standouts So i See....................Major PWNAGE.

[TheMART]

For real, the only games really interesting in this whole list can be counted on one hand. I name a few that are good:

GT5
Heavenly Sword
Killzone 3 (if it's not f*cked up and only shown CGI)
MGS4 (if you like it though, but well I think it's something like Halo for XBOX everyone needs to have it because it's the biggest exclusive around)

And the one that is a game that I would like to buy a console for is even no more on this list, Assassins Creed. I guess even here they see it's cross platform. So well. And of this small list, how many are there @ launch this Christmas actually competing with Gears of War and Forza 2?

Which?

[TheMART]

"the fact the Sony is behind even the Nintendo Wii does indicate (as does our last post) that the PS3 may have the smallest library of games."

[CAPS LOCK]

this was one of the big reasons that i wanted to buy the ps3, because of this game, but they said they would put it on hold so fingers crossed.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/artic...

[ghostface]

WHO GIVES A FU** ABOUT WHAT THEMART SAYS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU WANT THE PS3. FU** THEMART.

[CAPS LOCK]

i meant to write the percentage, i left out the percentage sign on the shooters it should of been 98% others 2% and u can agree with me that almost all the 360 games will go on the pc, halo will, oblivion did, gear of war will and so on so all ur left with is viva pinyata, and i work in a youth centre and all the kids want to play mario and super smash bros, they all didnt like viva pinyata so we had to return it to the shop, the 360 is still dusty though...i wonder y.

[TheMART]

Some games will be on PC, but I see it as a strength. Live anywhere will get a huge Live fanbase. You'll be able to go do things crossplatform. Something PS doesn't have.

Personally I like gaming from my couch with a WiFi controller, not sitting stiff behind my desk gaming on PC. But if someone else likes that and plays Gears of War he'd be my guest. One thing is for sure: more gamers=more money. More money drives new exclusives. More gamers, more money makes the winner system

[Jay da 2KBalla]

a caps lock viva pinata isnt out so how did u take it back.

dumbass people i tell you

[ironwolf]

Viva Pinyata won't be released till Christmas time.

[Daewoodrow]

that is the funniest thing i've seen all week, hands down. Whoever that shop was you returned Viva Pinata to, they must be very pleased at having an unreleased game returned to them. They can resell it for a fortune.
You are a c0ck.

[CAPS LOCK]

nice one its funny, but there is a reason they made more sequals, its because the previous ones sold alot, ff7 sold 2.6 million copies, ffx sold 4.1 million all around the world and ff12 sold 2 million copies in japan alone, so i guess people wont mind if they make it up 2 ff 1000000.

btw i like how u said granpa snake it was funny ROFL but what is funnier is buying a 360 when 90 percent of the games would be on the pc or maybe the good ones would be.

[TheMART]

Read above. It's an advantage to be PC/360. You'll only notice too late, when you already spend 600 bucks I guess

[CAPS LOCK]

which is roughly areound £300, and here in the uk the premium x-box 360 console is £279 so i guess if i spend £21 extra wont hurt, i would be getting free online by the way and the games will cost 10 pounds more only for the first year and the prices will go down( same thing happened with the ps1 and the nintendo 64 the games where £60 each, and the 360 games where £50 and they still are some that are, but most are £40 now.

how can u complain about money when u spend 50 dollers a year for live, when 50% of the time ur on this website online, PAWNED.

[TheMART]

Again, high quality and free don't go together. It's the choice:

Free - service sucks (see PS2 online want that again???)

Paid - Premium service

Please choose, what do you want the PS3 to have? Free - premium service is never going to happen. Game servers cost money and somewhere, somehow customers have to pay for it. If it's not a fixed fee, it's a fee per game. How more games you own, the more expensive. maybe 3 games and you'll be cheaper of then XBL. But imagine owning 20 games for online gameplay... That could get hell expensive. For real guys, open your eyes... Sony has done a free service before... be aware..

[TheMART]

Oh yeah, I just bought 2 XBOX 1 Live 12 month subscriptions that work activating on 360 also for 20 Euro's each. So 40 Euro's for 2 years premium online service that's nothing on daily basis!

[4me2]

You absolutely right. You pay more for quality.
THAT's why I'll get PS3..... I'll pay more but just like said quality counts and still I'll get next gen player, wireless, bluetooth,entry level PC.......

[Alexander]

No, the $600 PS3 'translates' to £425 and that is the only one selling in the UK (cheaper one later maybe).

So its not a difference of £21, it's £146. Brilliant... :/

[Daewoodrow]

They're selling one PS3 package here in the UK, and it's the 60gb version, £425. You'd think you would find out how much the console costs if you love it so much and it's out in 3 months.

[JIN KAZAMA]

buying a 360, and almost 9 moths later, there is no game that really stand out as NEXT GEN. Thats funny. All the games are just shinier. Nothing more.

[TheMART]

I can honestly say, compare the games for real. FNR3 on xbox 1 and 360? That's not just a whole different experience. I can know, I have them both beside each other.

Furthermore, the 360 games could never be done on last gen. That makes it next gen to me. Launch titles never use the full capabilities. As the launch titles for PS this Christmas also won't be the best games for it.

And that's the PS's problem. This Christmas it's head on. And with 2nd generation games on 360 like Gears of War and Forza 2, what can PS do actually?

Name me some games that can compete @ launch

[JIN KAZAMA]

the game is good, ok, its not all that, damn. I saw the HD gameplay video, it was good, but not great. It was dark as hell, there were a few eneimies on the screen, so it was getting away with a lot. Espeicially, because it was so dark, so get over it with gears of war.
Resistance looks better, they have a ton of people on screen at once, the explosions look sweet, the new pics graphics look awesome, so when people see that, they are gonna eat it up.
And Forza?? Two Words, Gran Turismo. 'Nough Said.

[TheMART]

Well first, that's your opinion. If resistance is better, why got Gears of War all those awards at last E3?

But well it doesn't really matter. The PS games you name are not here @ Christmas.

Forza 2? Against what. That GT4 HD smugged up PS2 game? GT5 will compete Forza 3. And watch all the gamesites, the points given on Forza smacked GT4

So name again, games THIS CHRISTMAS that can compete. They aren't there. They just are not there period

[slugg]

That exclusives and a huge number of games only tell a small part of the story. All systems will have Madden, for example, and millions of people buy the new Madden EVERY year (especially since EA has the exclusive rights and fu#%ed other developers out of making football games, but that's a whole 'nother story)even if it is only SLIGHTLY better that the one the year before. Ripping on the PS3 for haveing a ton of sequels I sorta understand, but its John Q. Lameassgamer that buys this stuff up that makes it happen. Tekken Whatever will sell a ton, just 'cause it is Tekken. Same with RIIIIDDDDGE RAAAAAACEERRRR (in Japan, anyway). Look no further that this disgusting fact: 10 times as many people bought 50cent bulletproof than bought Psychonaughts, and MOST of the best selling games of all time are sequels (Halo 2, Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts 2, etc.)

[ApocalypseShadow]

being that i find it easy to post good or bad comments about all systems since i'm just a gamer.i want all of you to tell me what you do like about sony?the ps3?never mind the crazy comments from higher ups.since i haven't seen it.just tell me what you do like.this goes out to all bashers on each side.what do you like about the other system.if you can't think of anything good,then you are a fanboy(s).

also,sony in 05 leading up to e306 told us"start saving your money.""it's going to be expensive.""system because of the tech in it should be worth more."then when they tell us how much,everyone acts surprised.microsoft kept it low which is good,but you still have to buy addons to get what's already built into the ps3.you have to buy a wireless adaptor,you have to buy a hd-dvd,you have to buy something external to get your xbox saves on 360.you have to buy a face plate.you have to buy online.yes you have a choice not to buy it.but you will.because you think you'll need it.the only thing i want to buy for 360,ps3 and wii is extra controllers for friends to play and games.unless microsoft can market hd-dvd with movie houses that support hd-dvd,and shock the world by selling an addon that for the last 20 years all companies failed at doing it,they will fail too.it's the games people,the games.and the people who play it with you.sony is forcing a bluueray player on us.well nintendo is forcing a new controller on us.microsoft is forcing you to have online to get any new content for your game.so what.it's their companies.i didn't see people complaining sega,nec and sony are forcing cds on us then.when all of us come out with products then we can decide what we want others to have.these are their products.buy it or don't buy it.but get over it. plus,you can't compare a game(gears of war) that was in the making before 360 existed to lauch games of ps3.it's like trying to build a skyscraper and you have ten months to do it.but the other guy already had the bricks and the building built a year ago already.all they have to do is put in the lights.the gamelist for each system is going to change constantly.any GAMER knows that.there were games cancelled for ps2,xbox and gamecube.all this talk is useless nonsense when it's about the games.

[TheMART]

That's called choice. Not everyone wants/needs Wireless internet many use cables, BR or HD-DVD is not yet standard, imagine paying for a BR that becomes Betamax. What then? You just burned hundred of dollars. That's no fun!

PS3 online you really think it's for free? Then it's PS2 online quality again. Premium online gaming needs to be paid. By consumers that is. One way or another. STOP DREAMING.

Support HD-DVD? Like the 24 titles BR that are there now and not 100 like Sony said?

But yeah I agree. It's all about the games. Where this is said: Wii has more exclusives then PS3. 360 has twice as much exclusives as the PS3

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Gears fo war can be compared to ps3 launch titles because they are coming out at the same time and it looks better than all of them.

[TheMART]

Come on no Sony fan is answering this, because there isn't anything.

This Christmas. What can stand up to

Gears of War

Forza 2

[JIN KAZAMA]

I already said it, Resistance: Fall of Man, and GT5. You dont know when GT5 is comming out, but thats the main competitor for Forza.

[TheMART]

AT CHRISTMAS READ DUMMIE

GT5 is wayyyyy in 2007. GT4 smugged up HD versio will be this Christmas

[JIN KAZAMA]

Its about when the game releases, it doesnt have to be released right away when Forza releases. Whats going to compete with Motorstorm during christmas??? You make no sense man.

[JIN KAZAMA]

I never even heard that. I think it was just a demo of it running in 1080p, its not going to be released. Show me a link that says that.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

How the hell is GT5 suppose to compete with Forza 2 if it isnt released this year you fool. O wait thats right it cant. Damn learn to read. That was the point of his post.

[zypher]

"A game studio that was developing a mediocre PS3 game before the price announcement would think twice before spending millions on a game that won't sell."

thats classic! i hope they would think twice about making a MEDIOCRE game...on ANY system. but whats classic about this statement is how the article turns this around and makes it seem bad for the PS3. i was almost--ALMOST--buying what this article was saying, until that statement. a developer wouldn't have to worry about investing millions of dollars in a game that won't sell...if said developer sets his standard a bit higher and make a game that isn't just MEDIOCRE. and if he would think twice about making a MEDIOCRE game for the PS3, then it can only be a good thing for future PS3 purchasers'.

[ApocalypseShadow]

to the side.now what you get is a system that can store a massive amount of content on one disc.let's say your a...gt fan.and they happen to release the 5th game in the series.but not only that.they put gt1,2,3,4 and concept all on one disc.or all the silent hills and the new one.you could put so mush sound bites in a game that you'll never hear the same thing twice.let's say football.we know ea won't do it.but let's pick it.you could have sunday broadcast.monday night football broadcast.radio broadcast.crowd sounds,airplanes,blimps,birds, etc.super bowl broadcast.and with the harddrive,you could have every good highlight that you did from your first game all the way to superbowl.there's so much possiblity.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

um no

[AuburnTiger]

Why are you disagreeing with him by saying "um no". Um no what? Are you saying this because it's not possible to 10 ps2 on one 50 gig BR disc? Sony of course would not do this but dammit if they wanted to it is absolutely possible. It's truly obvious that you have issues with anything involving Sony. Honestly you have insecurities about your next-gen 360. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t spend the majority of your day bashing ps3 articles and comments.

[ghostface]

I JUST SAW THE SOPANOES SEASON ONE WILL BE RELEASE AS HD DVD FOR $130. AN SOMETIME NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE RELEASE FOR BLU RAY

[ApocalypseShadow]

will have 200 plus games on them.what system you buy depends on the games that system has.not what your friend tells you to get,not the retailer,not basher of systems.but what you want to play.if that system doesn't have your game on it.then buy that one too.or play your friends.play games.be gamers.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

The 360 and perhaps the wii will have 200+ games on them but I dont think ps3 will maybe not till 2007/2008 but by that time 360 will have around 300 games and when u add arcade titles thats another 50+. More games means more variety which is something the 360 will have.

The ps3 doesnt have the games that I want and for me to get a ps3 the games would have to look 200 dollars better which they dont. In my opinion 360s holiday launch lineup will be better than ps3s. The ONLY good game for the ps3 is heavenly sword and maybe resistance but I doubt it about resistance because I can just get call of duty 3 and BIA Hells highway. Plus why da hell do I wanna shoot aliens during the WW2 period. WTF? The ps3 will be good but it isnt 200 dollars better and I hope the games dont end up costing more than 360 games cuz thats even worse. This holiday when I pick my system (360) I'ma buy Cod3, Gears of War, oblivion, fable 2, BIA Hells Highway, F.E.A.R and a few older games like GRaw, oblivion, kameo, and I cant wait for 2007 because of mass effect, eleveon, bioshock, and of course halo 3. I just dont see why should I buy a ps3 especially when its 200 dollars more. 1 or 2 good games just wont cut it especially if the games are $70+ each

[JIN KAZAMA]

dont

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Jin you aint got to tell me not to buy a ps3. Believe me I dont want to pay 200 dollars for 2 exclusives, games that are being ported from 360 that will probably cost more money than 360 games and wont look no better probably worst, and bs cgi. Belive me I wouldnt do something crazy like that. lol

Back to topic: I forgot about Rainbow six vegas and Splinter Cell Double Agent.

[AuburnTiger]

That's funny you should say that, because the majority of all the 360 games you can get off the PC.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

see 42.4

[JIN KAZAMA]

it will compete with Forza 2 when it comes out. It doesnt matter if it comes out a few months later. Forza 2 will have a life span of about 2 years, if its any good, Gran Turismo hopefully will be out early next year, the point is, if you say whats going to compete against Forza this year, then whats going to compete against motorstorm THIS YEAR dumbass.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Dumbass. It wont compete with forza2 because it isnt being released this year dumbass and you dont know when it will be released so shut da fuk up fool. And nothing will compete with motorstorm this year you idiot. Whats your point?

[ironwolf]

They're both supposed to be driving simulators; they both have good graphics, physics, and customization features; but in GT you can hit a damn brick wall head on at 200 m/h and after the bounce drive off without a scratch in the paint. That is complete and utter bull productions when it comes to a simulator.

[TheMART]

What game compete with Motorstorm?

Well it competes with itself. It totally looks like nothing they showed CGI on E3 2005! It looks utterly dull PS2 game with some dull sparks in there

[JIN KAZAMA]

What the hell games does the 360 have right NOW that are Next GEN.....NONE. Every single game out right now, is just better graphics, nothing more. The launch games of the ps3 looks better than your games out right NOW. Are you nuts.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Haha dumb ass. Oblivon, GRAW, Cod2, Kameo, PGR3, and FNR3. All of them are nxt gen you dumbass. How else did u expect the 360 to sell 5 million plus consoles? Damn you dumb.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

my bad its 5.5 million now.

[TheMART]

And why you think attach rate of games get 4.5 for 360 compared to the PS2 only 1.9 games attach rate per unit?

You never saw or played a 360 Jinjunjon, it might be a demo pod for 5 seconds when you got kicked off by the older kids

[BoneMagnus]

Command and Conquer 3 on the 360??? God does love me!!!!

[Jay da 2KBalla]

yea it will be a good ass game on a good ass system.

[deepujatt2005]

(GAYBOX-360 sucks ) (PS3 rulz)

[Jay da 2KBalla]

fanboy

[ironwolf]

Another 8 year old joins the discussion.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

.

[JIN KAZAMA]

and you call them next Gen. GRAW, decent, KAMEO WHACK, PGR3 same as PGR2, nothing new, jsut better graphics, not next gen, FNR3, WHACK. You are an idiot.

Now, as for the whole "what is going to compete with Forza 2" Well, GT5 will compete with it fool, Forza is commin out in christmas, if it doesnt get delayed. GT5, should be out soon after, those will compete.

"And nothing will compete with motorstorm this year you idiot. Whats your point? "

thats was my point, Themart is saying, whats going to compete with Forza this Xmas, then anyone can say, whats going to compete with Motorstorm this Xmas. It Eqauls out. Dont you understand.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Dont u understand that nobody gives a sh!t about motorstorm? Damn you are an idiot. Like I said it wont compete with it dumbass and you dont know when its coming out so once again shut da fuk up. You may not like the games but like I said 5+ million people say different.

[shoota33]

You may not like ps games but 206+ million say otherwise.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

and how many of those ppl bought a ps3. My point exactly. Shut yo irrelevant ass up.

[TheMART]

206?

First of you lametime it's 106 sold UNITS

Not PEOPLE. 60% of them has faulty DVD drives real soon after they bought it. So they bought it again... and again... and again...

[shoota33]

Oblivon, GRAW, Cod2, Kameo, PGR3, and FNR3 LOL what a joke lineup and those games are supposted to be next gen LOL!!.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

stop hatin

[JIN KAZAMA]

HAHAAHA, KAMEO!!!!!!!!!! oh wait, PDZ...LOL!!!!!!!!

Take a look at how the PS3 launch is looking, its looking better than ANY game out right now for the 360.

Oh wait, OverG Fighters, HAHAAHAHAH. What a joke that was, you idiots were drooloing about that game. LOL! Too funny. I'd rather play Top Gun on NES.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Kameo is meant to be a game for younger audience along with viva pinata and cars and its not a bad game. Who cares if ps3 games are looking better than 360 games right now? What matters aree the hliday 360 games and they blow ps3s away so shut da fuk up. Damn you stupid. You comparing launch games that came out a year ago to games coming out later in the year. What the hell is wrong with you?

[TheMART]

Now Tekken 6 N64? hahahaa, Warhawk the only game with movement controller? hahahaaa, Virtua Fighter 5? MHOWOHAHAHAHA, Whipeout 6? mmrpgphhhahhahhaha, Genji 2 with it's big monster crab that's the PS3 actually hihihaiaaaahhahaaaa

Motorstorm that's long, looonnnggg away from CGI E3 2005? kekekakakhahkahahahahaaaaaa

[JIN KAZAMA]

if the PS3 came out last year, with no OTHER competion, it would ahve sold about 10 + million right now. You guys are dumb you bought into the hype of the 360. The system is whack. Games like Prey, chromehounds, PGR3, AMPED, PDZ, KAMEO, those arent next gen, they are a steping stone to next gen. And MS got you guys on the hook for paying for online, haha. you guys are dumb. Bought a dvd player for 400 bucks. HAHA.

[shoota33]

Basically they brought an xbox with updated graphics and no next gen hardware and no new features yeah thats real next gen lol!

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Gametime were you born a fool or do u choose to be that way? Jin- you want to talk about a hook for paying for sh!t? Lets talk about how u got to pay 600 dollars to play games, 70+ plus for each game, and just because you dont like the system doesnt mean its whack it just means you a hater. As for me well Ima pay 400 dollars to play GAMES you fool while you pay 200 dollars more to do the same. You ,gametime and all your other little pals are the real fools.

[shoota33]

Yes we are real fools we get a 60 gig hd standard blutooth controllers,motion sensing,memory stick/flash driv ports,free online,the ability to browse the internet,built in wi-fi and blu ray player,cell/rsx for just 200 dollers more than xbox 360 and you get an xbox with updated graphics for 400 and we are the fools?

[Jay da 2KBalla]

blu-ray and wi-fi is good but all that other sh!t is weak as hell and you so tupid u listed cell/rsx as a feature. lol. Tell me this are the games 200 dollars better. thats wat i thought. I will be paying 400 dollars for great games and if i want wi-fi I can pay another 100 dollars for it. Blu-ray isnt sh!t cuz the movies dont even look hd on them and hd-dvd has more movies out and looks like it will win the next gen format wars anyway. anyways to answer your question yall are the fools.................still

[kewlkat007]

From the looks of it like, I said earlier PS3 has nothing Next-gen just sEQUALs...not syaing that they won't but 360 seems to have new breed of games. whether you like them or not.

[shoota33]

Yes and those seqauls sold tens of millions of more playstation consoles than your piece of crap games on xbox.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Gametime I dont have time for your 12 year old ass (yes everyone he is only 12 thats why he acts so immature adn has no clue what he is talkin about..........ever) so peace. You like ps3 and are going to get ur mom to pay 600 dollars for it. Thats coo whateva but to me da real next gen is on the 360. I'm out. bout to eat and den play some halo.

[shoota33]

Are you really that stupid i havwe told you multiple times that i am not 12 im older that you are.I m getting ps3 and there is nothing you can say or do about it end of discussion.

[superam]

of course 360 wil have tons of game they launch 1st ps3 is not out yet n dev kit just arrive this june?? sony promise to support ps2 10yers lifespan n its happening look xbox they barely dont have enough game
but who cares just by bought of them
i have 360 its cool
ps3=later
wii =maybe
ps2=socom 3 rock play online wil do quik snip
xbox=it broke i duno wat happen ninja gaiden is d shyt this game is hard but hell yah its hella worth it

[Aflac]

u only do the same thing over and over again in each level, just in different backgrounds, thats all that sony's devs seem to think it takes to make "different levels" to a game. I havent found any repitition like that in xbox (original and 360) games yet, so far, games that actually have replay value. somthing i never got outta ps2 crap.

[ASTAROTH]

The PS3 and the Wii has not even launched yet and they have a fair enought amount of games anounced. I spend all the summer waiting for games to play on my 360. The only interesting one PREY. It ended in a trade in for Shadow of the Colossus and Sly 3 for my PS2. I dont regret it. Almost a year in its lifecycle and they only anounced 78 games, some available and some under development. But the most ironic thing is that 360 fans said that you can download games like SF2 TURBO in the XBOX live service for 10 bucks, but said that people dont need PS3 backwards cause there are a lot of SHI@#@ PS2 games to play. JAJAJA I MUST BE PLAYING PAC MAN IN MY 360. Come on dudes, as my point of view developers are still waiting for how good the 360 performs after the launch of the PS3 and Wii. They are not so sure, even if it really sells 10 millions, of the 360 succes. EXTREMIST FANBOYS LIKE THE MART COULD SAY WHAT THEY WANT, its up to you to believe. I believe that the PS3 woulb be an incredible system. I like it more than the 360, but im a gamer and im not goin to miss 360 games either. AS FOR GEARS, I hope it ended up being a good game, cause it seems for fanboys that this game is their only hope to compete with the PS3. WELCOME CHANG3!!!!!!!!!!

[sLoP]

Pac-Man is the sh!t you b!tch.

[assjacket]

I own a 360 so I am more interested in the games that are coming out for the 360. I will probably buy a PS3 but, most likely, not for over a year after its released, it just costs too much+games+BluRay movies. I don't care about BluRay or HD-DVD. I own a couple hundred DVDs and I'm not re-buying them (I really don't need to be able to see the mole on Will Farrells' ass in Old School).
Anyways with that said, as a gamer, I was happy to see that Assassins Creed was not on any exclusive list while CellFactor and Ninja Gaiden 2 were, for the 360. It doesn't actually matter to me that they are exclusive, I am just glad to see that they will be coming to the console I already own.
BTW most of those 5000+ games(PS2) were only in Japan.

[NJ1307RSX]

Can Play cds, dvds, Bluray disks, PS1, PS2, and PS3 games so you don't have to re-buy your dvd collection.

All you have to do is start a Blu-ray disk collection once you get a PS3.

[ironwolf]

if they were in any country other than Japan, would get the developers very long sentences for child porn.

[Marriot VP]

NJ, his point is that he's not gonna rebuy his collection. It's just that there aren't any movies coming out in the next 3-5 years that aren't gonna be on DVD. The transition is gonna be so slow and he knows it. The 3% of uber-techs can try to progress all they want but if the average joe isn't on board then it doesn't go anywhere.

And yes the movie classics you would have to buy over again like star wars and the lord of the rings, and there are many of them. The PS3 isn't going to determine the winner, the standalone HD players competing prices is going to. Concerning actual customers the PS3 will end up being much less than standalone because that's overwhelmingly where the bulk of the consumers is at.

[kewlkat007]

Ps hasnt had any competition almost 10 years, it's good for gaming MS is shaking things up. I never said the games suck its just they are nothing new.( I play RPGs and the genre hasn't gone anywhere) Ofcourse if a game does well they will make sequals.. just like movies.

Sequal does not mean its nex-gen, just super graphics. I've had all systems, going from PS1 to PS2 was super now PS2 to PS3 less stellar, Since 360 is comparable(regardles what sonyfags think) make no sense paying $600 for that system early on. Probally when its $300 it will be worth it.

Funny how sonfags know how the PS3 is gonna end up. And how they make themselves belive they need a low quality Blue-ray drive. How many casual games have 1080P tvs?(really)Blue-ray is pending tech.

You talk about how closley the games are with PC and the 360 when its PS that siad PS3 is like a computer or even better even if there wasn't any game for it.(such arrogance) When it comes to PC/Console I don't even mix them its a whole different experience. If you rather PC games then stay away from consoles simple as that.

As I always say SonyFags are not true gamers...just lame fools that think they are PS embassadors. I will buy consoles cause of the games I wanna play. I only post on here to totally lame and unjustified comments from flamers. Niether do I think Bill gates is GOD or the 360 is the best thing since slice bread.

You sonyfags need help, or maybe something to do Posting on here like your on Sony's Payroll, STF already...

[Daewoodrow]

I laugh with all these people saying that the 360 is not next gen, just better graphics. What exactly do you define as next gen? Something new? since almost all the games on the 360 are impossible to make on the xbox 1 without cutting them to pieces, why is it not next gen? If you think you have to see gameplay that you've never seen before for it to be next gen, you'll be very disappointed by the PS3 too. They are also "only" offering better graphics, physics and AI than last gen.
What do you think next gen is only a new disk format?
How about hundreds of zombies shuffling towards you, each with its own behavior.
How about looking out over a photorealistic cityscape with the mexican sun in your eyes, whilst bullets whizz past your head.
How about cars so realistic they could sometimes be mistaken for real, on A LAUNCH TITLE.
How about standing half way through a portal and seeing two different rooms on either side of the screen, with one side having a different gravity.
If you're not impressed yet, you're not going to be. Not by any console. Next gen is about PROGRESS, not about a shiny new and untested disk format, not about waving your hand like a fishing rod, and not about xbox live. But they all contribute.

Stop buying into sales phrases used by the console developers, and make up your own mind what next gen is.

[pbo2m3]

That was a good writeup. I don't know what all these morons on here keep talking about the 360 not having next gen. Obviously they dont know what next gen is. If they look at GRAW, Oblivian, COD2, just to name a few and say that that is not next gen, then they are going to be very disappointed when the PS3 finally launches. As of right now the only games(s) that I see that look like they might be good id Resistance. Other than that, the rest are crap and not next gen according to them.

[ASTAROTH]

GOW cant be done on my xbox. But if it handles an incredible game llike HALF LIFE 2, and the graphically impresives ones like NINJA GAIDEN BLACK and CONKER, I believe it can handle the mayoryty of the 360 games. Not the latest eforts but in the last gen everybody menospreciated the xbox, just because of the PS2 ports. This may happen again with the PS3. I believe that ports are not going to make the PS3 justice. WELCOME CHANG3!!!!!!!!!!

[Daewoodrow]

ah, but half life 2 wasn't handled. It had a horrific frame rate, and Halo 2, which is the most impressive game I own, has irritating graphic rendering during play and cutscenes. Unless the made these games look like they were struggling on purpose to make the 360 look better, which I seriously doubt they would go through the trouble of doing, I think it's clear the xbox was reaching the end of its expandability graphics wise. Look at the GRAW port for the xbox 1 and tell me it doesn't make you feel empty inside in comparison.

[kewlkat007]

I don't even think people know themselve what is Next-gen, I guess if Papa SOny say everygame is Next-gen then all the droids drink the koolaid. Remember? fanyboys don't have the capacity think for themselves.

what exactly is Next-gen to you? Anyone?watch we will get alot of (Next-gen=PS3) and not 360. As expected.

I do not expect 10 year olds to know what next-gen can be(they only know 3 systems; ps+ps2+xbox), now if you've played almost every system made(also seen PC gaming evolve) and have gone through the generations of consoles and games maybe you might have an Idea what it should be. Then again everyones got opinions.
Oh yeah and you Pixel sl*ts out there don't know much except graphics.

[AK-47]

i'm getting a ps3, i don't care what people
think about ps3.

[sLoP]

"What the hell games does the 360 have right NOW that are Next GEN.....NONE. Every single game out right now, is just better graphics, nothing more. The launch games of the ps3 looks better than your games out right NOW. Are you nuts. "

Um, please tell me a PS3 game that is next gen by your definition then....because all I see is, old news games with "upgraded graphics." So according to everything you have said....the ps3 games are not next gen then...because they all have the same gameplay mechanics.....Pwned.

[kewlkat007]

So "Mortal" What does Next-Gen mean to you? How is the PS3 a Next-Gen Console?

Possible Answers:

a.Blue-ray

b.The PS sequals with suped-up Pixels.

c.Cell+RSX

d.Ken Kutaragi told me so.Iam just a droin and will bend of when Im told so, by him.

E.None of the above

[Marriot VP]

Personally I'm surprised at what exclusives are ending up going the way of the 360. I mean splinter cell that's incredible. I just found that out. Plus command and conquer now.

It's so surprising. I'm not saying this to prove 360 rules and ps3 drools, I'm just flat out shocked how many multiplatforms aren't gonna be on the ps3.

-Madden 07
-Splinter
-Mass Effect
-command and conquer
-Bioshock

[shoota33]

ps3 will have madden 07 dumbass its a launch title.

[Marriot VP]

I was thinking of the exclusive content online, my mistake, don't go all fanboy on me. I don't even play madden so relax you freak.

[AK-47]

i got something for u, ps3 is not in stores yet
so have u played ps3? NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

[ApocalypseShadow]

next gen means gameplay that is not watered down and not seen before.graphic engines that simulate life and it's behaviors.most games don't simulate wind,real downpouring of rain,explosions,heat that creates melting,cold that freezes,crashes that leave things in ruin over the course of the race.flying hasn't reached top gun speed,fighting hasn't reached jet li's fist of legend,or any bruce lee fight.flighting from one planet to another,go through the atmosphere and land on planets with differnet weathers and gravity.setting forests on fire to flush your enemy out so you can head shot him.stuff like this.graphics are nice,but they don't mean as much anymore.fun matters.if you want to be called next gen,then you had better do some of the above.

[Sevir04]

let me know when the firesdie down... ^^ it doesn't matter i have my 360 and i'm getting a ps3 this november and it doesn't matter what the mart or other 360 fan kids say... ^^

[pbo2m3]

Another thing that I keep hearing about is the free online that sony is going to provide. All you Sony Fanboys keep bringing it up that its going to be free. I'd like to know how you know that? They really haven't mentioned to much about it besides saying that the free service is going to be like the free service that MS is offering, so before you all keep saying its going to be free lets wait till it comes out and see what it is really going to cost. You people complain that the MS fanboys have to pay a $50 annual fee and that is expensive, but $600 isn't. And if you look at it as a monthly subsription its only a little over $4. So before all of you get exicited about the free service form sony that you guys keep bringing up lets just wait to see what happens. It's not like Sony hasn't lied before.

[AK-47]

so have u played ps3? how do u know ps3 is not
NEXT-GEN?ps3 is not out yet, and ur telling me ps3 is not NEXT-GEN.just think about it. when yo mamma ask u what did get on the text and yo teacher didn't tell u the grade. how u khow what did u get on the text.Just think about it.

[ironwolf]

You obviously got an "F".

[Marriot VP]

is your head attached to your body??

[kewlkat007]

See you really don't know yourself, or can think for yourself as to what you think it should be. Everything I've said was based on these CGI I've been seeing thats all.

No I haven't played PS3 but I can think for myself and personally I think what sony have showed us so far is nothing different then better graphics. Yes I do have most systems, and from what I've seen in comparison doesn't warrant the title Next-Gen title, at least not yet.
I see you already know everything about the PS3 except what your own view of Next-Gen is or should be.

You Weak Pathetic Fool..your just a droid, Know your role.

Like I was saying, People should really stop drinking the Next-Gen Koolaid. They really don't know what makes something next-gen or shoul dI say what is next-gen to them. "Mortal" Proved my point exactly.
A sony fanboy - "Its gotta be The graphics Dude"
Give me a break. Even on the 360 some games just look better, not really outstanding, depending on the genre. then again it's early.

one good exmaple of a game making the jump to next-gen in its days was FINAL FANTASY 7. If your not into rpgs its all good but that game did alot for rpg genre. Since then its been new graphics and uh more sequals.(some might think otherwise)

One ingredient of next-gen is def Online play(whether you think so or not).

If anyone wanna add others you may...

[AK-47]

If anyone wanna add others you may play 360,then come around here and talk s@#$ about ps3. that's what u have to do.stupid 360 fans.

[ApocalypseShadow]

not one sports game has(5 on 5) or(3 on 3) or(11 on 11).when each person can be someone on the team online in sports and not just combat,then i'll call online next gen.we're close.project and doa did have spectator.so atleast there's a start.

[kewlkat007]

Well wouldn't that be like System-linked Play? Except online? Eventho it would be a mess...I can see people being greedy or not paying attention. This guy shooting everytime he gets the ball(if it was a b-ball game). People leaving for bathroom breaks...umm and other things.

Now if there was money involed and real teams where it means something, as if it was a real game then it might be taken serious.

Another ingredient of next-gen I think is the Idea in RPGs that are not Linear. Everything is dynamic. How you play is what you become and the choices you make. More Dynamic gameplay or story.

[AK-47]

i really dont like MORTAL COMBAT. i liked HALO
but i didnt like halo 2. i dont khow about halo 3.i cant say S@#$ about it, because HALO 3
is not out yet. so if u dont like ps3, dont say
s@#$ about ps3, because is not out yet.

[SDS Overfiend]

Sony is Done Plain and simple.

[ApocalypseShadow]

that do that,they might get cut from the team.or not allowed to practice with the rest for the next game.rpgs could use that.let's say you become an evil person like in fable.the game creates heroes to come fight you and take you down.or they get vanquished and you continue to rule.monsters that randomly generate just like monster rancher.remember that?where you put different discs in the system.legs,head,eyes,size,weg ht,etc. changes that save on your hard drive

[kewlkat007]

Mortal Kombat just like Street Fighter did alot for those gaming Generes. Those games are classic, now where is the next Street Fighter?(not sequal but the next awesome fighting game) I haven't seen it.

Now having an arcade on xbox live to play SF, I guess is kewl, so many damn quaters I've wasted on that game alone.

Like I said I probally will get the PS3, I have the PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, I just like video games bro. Except Im not rich and have to work hard for exery console I buy. If that PS3 was $400 then everything else could be justified what you are getting. regardless I can afford just won't be anytime soon.

I'll have the 360/wii for that price with sh!t load of games. since I'ma gamer and I see many titles I wanna play for the 360. Def wanna play my zelda when that comes out too.(whether you like those consoles or not), I just happen to like video games.

[Marriot VP]

lol, ohh man that's a great way to spell genres.

[kewlkat007]

I Think Those games you talk of are on the right track. Oblivian seems kinda different. It's not like a japanese RPG where there is just the main character story and side quest. RPGs need to have a dynamic world of their own, While the main character and stories/quest are intact.

where you cut a tree for instance and it would takes a couple of months for it to grow back.(which would equal years in game world), Everything should be alive. I know this is just a tit tat detail of a game but ya get the idea.

Another Idea instead of having one character with one story how about being able to pick most of your party members as the main character and develop their backround and stories. Content can be downloaded and bringing the same game to new-life with a whole different plot. You choose the character and play on. Since most of these rpg games are somewhat scripted and linear it would be a challenge.

Rememebr playing castlevania:SOTN, beating it once with the normal castle then having sh!t flip upside down. With new monsters and such. Where are games like that? With all these new hardware and sh!t? It's suppose to be next-gen.

I'm still waiting for a 2D Castlevania with a castle so big that it will take hours to discover. While I'm play "curse of darkness" right now the 3D just is not cutting it.

[AK-47]

My question is why people are talking about ps3
and ps3 is not out yet. i like 360, i think is a great console and maybe 360 will win this war
but everybody know sony still the real king, because this war is not over. i didnt like ps2
but HALO 1 and HALO 2 didnt kill ps2 and HALO is the best game ever I know that. THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SAY ABOUT THIS STUPID CONSOLE WAR.

[ApocalypseShadow]

capcom disappointed me by not releasing a next gen street fighter.a dead or alive level of detail with new gameplay.letting arika do the 3d one was a joke.or just having a new fighter from some company.something that sticks with traditional characters.but has grapples and reversals like what we see in the movies.

[kewlkat007]

Do really come on here to look for bad grammar and typos? Cause if you do, you have alot of work ahead of ya. Dude if your bored go to bed....

[Marriot VP]

no way I never say anything about spelling errors, it's just that I thought the way he spelled genres was really funny. I could care less about spelling mistakes that one just caught my eye.

[ApocalypseShadow]

that plays like sotn in 2d but has graphics like gears of war.

[kewlkat007]

It seems to be DOA, Tekken and Virtua fighter right now for the new consoles. Where is the next "Killer Instinct"? the next C&C Red Alert?Star Craft?

This is why I say in the last 10 years there really hasn't been anything that groudbreaking, I mean really think about it.
Let's see ,The platform genre went 3D, FPS has taken off, MMORPG became more popular but i'm not into that, Ofcourse Madden has evolved and EA felt the heat from competition and killed my ESPN MFL series.

All I can say is Nintendo has always had a fresh take on Mario and Zelda everytime. besides Majoras mask which was Comparable to Ocarina of time. This new one Promises to be a goody.

[ApocalypseShadow]

of onimusha 3.where samunoske fought the two dogs?that what i want for next gen soul calibur to be like.i want my fights to be like jackie chan,jet li or bruce lee films.i like the above three.played every version.but now it's getting tiring.add character,then release.the controller is what i'm waiting for for mario and zelda.

[zypher]

only 120 PS3 games in development? then where did this site:

http://www.ps3land.com/arti...

get these games from?

Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight
Grand Theft Auto IV
Resident Evil 5
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Final Fantasy XIII
Resistance: Fall of Man
Call of Duty 3
NBA Live 07
Sonic the Hedgehog
Next NBA Street
Tekken 6
Need for Speed Carbon
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Half-Life 2: Episode Two
Assassin's Creed
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Star Wars 2007
Devil May Cry 4
Gran Turismo HD
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
The Lord of the Rings, The White Council
Final Fantasy VII (Rumor)
Madden NFL 07
Formula One 06 Formula One Racing
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Killzone
Elveon
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Spider-Man 3
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
Army of Two
Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007
Turok
Virtua Fighter 5
Unreal Tournament 2007
Haze
MotorStorm
Hellboy
Stranglehold
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Heavy Rain
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames
Indiana Jones 2007
Golden Axe
Virtua Tennis 3
Heavenly Sword
Alone in the Dark
NHL 2K7
Warhawk
The Darkness
Eight Days
DIRT: Colin McRae Off-Road
Fatal Inertia
Cipher Complex
Armored Core 4
Ridge Racer 7
Genji 2
Clive Barker's Jericho
Ratchet & Clank
Sega Rally Revo
The Getaway
Def Jam 3
Killing Day
BioShock
TNA iMPACT!
F.E.A.R. 2
Untitled Naughty Dog Game
Lair
Coded Arms: Assault
The Eye of Judgment
Monster Hunter 3
Possession
Pirates of the Caribbean 3
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie
Fight Night Round
King of Fighters: Maximum Impact 3
Afrika
Dark Sector
Ni-Oh
Dynasty Warriors
Monster Kingdom
Eyedentify
Grand Raid Offroad
Untitled Square Enix Next-Gen MMORPG
World Pool Championship 2007
Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
The Wheelman
Transformers
Dirty Harry
Project IM
Heat
Way of the Samurai 3
The Outsider
Untitled DC Comics MMO
6GUN II
Driver
SingStar
Rain
Shin Megami Tensei
Fifth Phantom Saga
Omikron 2
The Wall
College Hoops 2K7
Angel Rings
Secret Service
ShadowClan
Untitled Western Shooter
L.A. Noire
Project Force
Project D
Monster Madness
X Quest
Empire
Redwood Falls
Hot Shots Golf
Data-Fly
Extreme
Bomberman
Train Simulator Online
Seikan
Gradius
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu
Master Project
ActiveDogs
WarDevil: Enigma
The Club
Project Delta
BB
Rengoku: The End of the Century
Makai Wars
Untitled John McTiernan Game
Stuntman 2
Untitled Obsidian/Sega RPG
Schwarzenberg
Super Robot Taisen
Avalon
Project Psychic
Akari Project
Boku no Natsuyasumi 3
Shinseiki GPX Cyber Formula
Yamasa Digi World DX
Derby Stallion
Hitsuji Mura
Aquanaut no Kyujitsu: Inner Mind Adventure
Shin Ten Makai VI
Sekai Saikyou Ginsei Igo 7
Naxat Plan
Bipedal Movement Simulation
Mahjong Oh
Pachinko Jikki
Mahjong Taikai
Sunrise Eiyuutan
Pro Mahjong Goku Final
Saikyou Ginsei Shougi 7
Slotter Mania
Value 2000 Igo
Value 2000 Shougi
Fantasy Lab Project
Meternome

furthermore, why does ign.com list some 270 games currently in development for the PS3? somebody somewhere isn't being truthful. i highly doubt that its either gamespot or ign

[ironwolf]

And references your list. Your list includes PLANNED games. Technophilia lists only those currently in development.

And only a fanboy would assume that a site called PS3Land is automatically more accurate than any other gaming site.

[zypher]

ahem, if you actually read the article from PS3land.com, you'd see that they got the list from gamespot.com. furthermore, if you go to gamespot you'll see for yourself that PS3land is correct. even more further more, as i said, ign.com has even more games in development for the PS3. see:

http://search.ign.com/produ...

even furthermore, some of the 360's supposed exclusives (such as Ninja Gaiden 2) haven't even been announced for any specific system. for all we know Ninja Gaiden 2 could go multi-platform. even further more, alot of the 360's exclusive games are either already out (such as Burnout Revenge and Need for Speed, both rehashes from current-gen game; COD 2 and GRAW, both of whom's sequels are already planned for multiple systems), haven't even been announced (C&C 3) or are planned for the PS3 as well (FNR3). and where's The Wall? last i checked Play Ten only announced it for the PS3 (oh, and the PC). and Assassins Creed? last i checked Ubisoft STILL has it as a PS3 exclusive on their site, which can only be used to justify its exclusivity to the PS3, since technophila used developer/gaming sites to disavow the PS3 getting Elveon and Bioshock. the more i think about it, and the more i reread the article, the more i realize this is just another unjustified attempt to discredit the PS3 in anyway. Sony has done and said some downright dumb things lately, but this is really distasteful on technophilia's part.

[TheMART]

Freaking FOny Fanboys are lying biatches, go watch this guy that says he had Viva Piniata but brought it back to the shops. Now that's a sad kid waiting on his 600 dollar brick he'll never get becaus lack of pocketmoney: CAPSLOCK

"35 - the mart
CAPS LOCK - 8 Hours ago
i meant to write the percentage, i left out the percentage sign on the shooters it should of been 98% others 2% and u can agree with me that almost all the 360 games will go on the pc, halo will, oblivion did, gear of war will and so on so all ur left with is viva pinyata, and i work in a youth centre and all the kids want to play mario and super smash bros, they all didnt like viva pinyata so we had to return it to the shop, the 360 is still dusty though...i wonder y.
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TheMART - 8 Hours ago
Some games will be on PC, but I see it as a strength. Live anywhere will get a huge Live fanbase. You'll be able to go do things crossplatform. Something PS doesn't have.

Personally I like gaming from my couch with a WiFi controller, not sitting stiff behind my desk gaming on PC. But if someone else likes that and plays Gears of War he'd be my guest. One thing is for sure: more gamers=more money. More money drives new exclusives. More gamers, more money makes the winner system
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jay da xbox baller - 7 Hours ago
a caps lock viva pinata isnt out so how did u take it back.

dumbass people i tell you
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35.3 - Obvvious lie.
ironwolf - 6 Hours ago
Viva Pinyata won't be released till Christmas time.
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Daewoodrow - 5 Hours ago
that is the funniest thing i've seen all week, hands down. Whoever that shop was you returned Viva Pinata to, they must be very pleased at having an unreleased game returned to them. They can resell it for a fortune.
You are a c0ck. "

[TheMART]

Doesn't own a 360, Viva Piniata won't be out untill Christmas when it will be a big hit.

I bet you even not work in a youth centre. BTW all the kids wanted to play Mario? So I guess the centre is buying a Wii then and no PSSh*t!

Haha you dork.

[TheMART]

Furthermore, these comments are utterly dull:

"all the 360 games will go on the pc, halo will, oblivion did, gear of war"

First off, Halo 1 is on PC. Halo 2 yet is not. When Halo 3 is here, maybe Halo 2 will be on PC. So when the game is at the end of it's 'life cycle' it could come to PC.

Gears of War is 360 only for the time being. I guess when Gears of War 2 comes, PC users may have part 1. It doesn't really matter. At least they want that game! I had MGS2 for my XBOX. Yeah your biggest 'exclusive' and it sucked. 5 seconds gameplay 30 seconds movie. 3 minutes gameplay 5 minutes movie. Stupid Japanese sh*t.

Oh yeah, Live anywhere is the strength games are on PC/360. Large userbase, more money. More exclusives for PC/360 and not for PSZero.

Like this article is stating

Wii has even more exclusives as PSZero
360 has double the exclusives as PSZero
360 has the best and most innovative exclusives

[HyperBear]

kk Xbox Fanboys gotta realize that the PS3 launch line-up is wayy better than the Xbox 360 line-up. I mean c'mon. Only goodgames on 360 launch were Condemned and COD2. For PS3, you got Warhawk, Motorstorm, Resistance, Full Auto 2(not really great), but at least they dont have a ton of sports games like 360 had at its launch. And Sony Fanboys gotta realize, Xbox 360 blows the sh!t out of PS3 when it comes to games and exclusive titles. There is not a game in the PS3 world that can match with Halo 3, and Gears of War. The only reason im getting a PS3 is because there are some games me and my family play that arent on the 360. But Id rather get a new 360 game over a PS3 game any day of the year. and Im surprised TheMart. All you can name for big titles coming up is Forza 2 and Gears of War. I guess you didnt mention Mass Effect, FEAR, COD3, Too Human, TimeShift, Saints Row, Madden 07, Lost Planet. I thought an experienced hardcore Xbox fanboy would come up with more than just 2 titles coming up, cause i did. Why cant we all say Both systems are great, and if you have the money for both, why not get both. If not, get 360 and sh!t Wii. Only reason i call Wii Sh!t, is because im not a kid anymore. Im grown up and dont play little kiddy games any more. Only games that are on Wii that impress me are Zelda and Metroid, and i dont even like those games. Mario brought me into gaming, but it has left me, and Halo has taken over. So ppl, lets get one thing straight here, games are supposed to be fun and competitive, and does it really matter what system another person likes over another one. I like Sony and Microsoft, so I buy their products. That rule goes for everyone else. just name the companies you like, and buy products off of them. And then dont worry about what some F@G of a Fanboy says, just ignore them, and then when your system comes out, and proves to be a big hit, then you can call all those fanboys that put you down before "HAHAH, YOU ARE ALL FUKERS", (ie, just an example there). GAMES ARE GAMES. CANT WE JUST HAVE FUN??

[TheMART]

I agree on a large part what you're posting here.

The point I want to make only mentioning Gears of War and Forza 2, is that they will be the largest systems selling games THIS CHRISTMAS.
For real, I expect demopods to run those games. And what will PS3 then have on their demopods to compete it THIS CHRISTMAS

That's my whole point. I know all the other games, heck I mention them in multiple posts elsewhere.

Some people buy all three, others aren't. But anyone is free to discuss overhere

Oh yeah, be complete when naming good launch titles, besides

- Condemned
- COD2

there were certainly

- PGR3 (you can say all you want, this was not possible on last gen systems)
- Kameo (same and innovative. This name will have it's sequel booming)
- DOA4 (compare that to tekken 6 and VF5 it blows anything out of the water)

PS3 Resistance won't be anywhere head on with Gears of War. Warhawk? Come on, have you even seen the Show of Sony on E3? Hilarious PS2 game with movement sensor, the only game actually. Motorstorm? Nowhere near CGI shown, looks also PS2 with blur to coverup the bad surrounding textures on mountains and sparks from N64 time. And Full Auto 2. Well you said it yourself on that one.

For real. This can't compete with Gears of War and Forza 2 this Christmas.

[HyperBear]

Way to compare 1st gen PS3 games to 2nd Gen 360 games. But what about a more fairer contest like Resistance vs. COD2. or Warhawk vs. blazing angles or motorstorm vs. nuthing cause XBox 360 has no offraod racing games yet. Just admit that Xbox 360 is mostly RPG or FPS. PS has all kinds of titles. and KAMEO WAS THE crappiest game ever made on the 360. PGR3 yea ill give it that one. and DOA4 wasnt launch. So i think PS3 and 360 are pretty even in games for launch.

[Daewoodrow]

Hyperbear, I was perfectly happy with the launch titles on the 360, and I knew what good games were coming soon, but honestly who cares??? Do you really think the consumer will say "I'm buying a PS3 because the 360 launch titles weren't as impressive as the PS3 launch titles!" They will only be looking at what they can get right NOW. The avergae consumer doesn't expect results in the future or consider the past. They want the product to offer value for their money right here and right now. They wont care what games were on the 360 at launch, unless the want to buy one, they will be comparing the second gen to the PS3 first gen whether you like it or not.

And it is the average low income consumer who decided the success of every games console in the end.

[mikeeno7]

I'm not the biggest fan of you The Mart. I like listening to your opinions it's just that you repeat them over and over and over and over...you get the picture. I prefer 360 too, but your not going to convert Jin in anyway so GIVE UP PLEASE.

[TheMART]

I don't ask you to be my biggest fan, but hope the majority of fanboys open their eyes before they flushed 600 dollars through the toilet again like we were all lied into the PS2 years ago on a great free online network and the highest TFLOPS that ment sh*t compared to Dreamcast and XBOX. And the best thing to see that Sony fanboys aren't in it for the games, but only for the brand is quoting this post:

"Freaking FOny Fanboys are lying biatches, go watch this guy that says he had Viva Piniata but brought it back to the shops. Now that's a sad kid waiting on his 600 dollar brick he'll never get becaus lack of pocketmoney: CAPSLOCK

"35 - the mart
CAPS LOCK - 8 Hours ago
i meant to write the percentage, i left out the percentage sign on the shooters it should of been 98% others 2% and u can agree with me that almost all the 360 games will go on the pc, halo will, oblivion did, gear of war will and so on so all ur left with is viva pinyata, and i work in a youth centre and all the kids want to play mario and super smash bros, they all didnt like viva pinyata so we had to return it to the shop, the 360 is still dusty though...i wonder y.
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Some games will be on PC, but I see it as a strength. Live anywhere will get a huge Live fanbase. You'll be able to go do things crossplatform. Something PS doesn't have.

Personally I like gaming from my couch with a WiFi controller, not sitting stiff behind my desk gaming on PC. But if someone else likes that and plays Gears of War he'd be my guest. One thing is for sure: more gamers=more money. More money drives new exclusives. More gamers, more money makes the winner system
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jay da xbox baller - 7 Hours ago
a caps lock viva pinata isnt out so how did u take it back.

dumbass people i tell you
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35.3 - Obvvious lie.
ironwolf - 6 Hours ago
Viva Pinyata won't be released till Christmas time.
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Daewoodrow - 5 Hours ago
that is the funniest thing i've seen all week, hands down. Whoever that shop was you returned Viva Pinata to, they must be very pleased at having an unreleased game returned to them. They can resell it for a fortune.
You are a c0ck. "

[HyperBear]

I c where your coming from, but that doesnt mean taht you have to call eveyrone that is getting a PS3 f@ggots. I mean c'mon. Im getting a PS3 and i have a 360, are you callin me a f@g? because there are some games on PS3 i like over XBox 360, not many tho, but some. So theres no need for you and Xbox fanboys to say PS3 games suck and PS3 sucks ASS. and same goes for Sony people. its not Xflop, cause to tell you the truth, ever since Xbox 360 came out, I havenbt heard anyone b!tch about there 360 even if it did burn out or w/e, they still got a new one. So point im tryin to make here. is that fanboys need to lighten up, dont say a system sucks just because you think it does, cause millions of other ppl who arent on this site all day posting comments, may not think the same way you guys do.

[TheMART]

I am not calling all PS gamers f@ggots. Heck I even own a PS2 myself, but it gave up on me with it's faulty DVD drive. And I hate Sony because their lying on a great free online network mainly on PS2. I just see the same lying again now. For real. PS won't get a free online network. It will be basic like XBL Silver. If not, it will be the same quality as PS2 network. Free & Premium quality don't go together. Everyone should know that deep in their hearts.

I call Freaking Fony Fanboys f@ggots. Those as CAPSLOCK and for example people that are saying the PS3 GPU will be next gen. The specs aren't out. So what does that tell us 3 months before launch? If you ask me not much good things. If it was allmighty, Sony would drop the specs. To compare to 360 GPU and Wii. Because it would crush them. But they don't. That points a lot in the direction of using a standard Nvidia 7900 if you ask me.

Someone may or may not think the same as me, or you or anyone else. To discuss is good I think. Don't you

[OutpostCommand]

Compared to the 360s GPU (A ATI 520 (L.M.A.O)) the PS3s GPU is like a God send.
Please...
RSX > ATI 520
Oh, and TheMART, come on, redeem you dignity, the BLOODY PS3 SPECS WERE RELEASED AGES AGO !!

[ACE]

i know someone who is working on the ps3 project etc.....

i will hint """"" the ps3 WILL be the disapointment of the decade """"" """

sony fan boys grow up ffs .......

there are games missing on the lists but thats cos they not in development yet ,, well like 80% ...

zypher theres no need to start lieing over this article mate , yes ign/gamespot might have more but bottom line is that list has games that aint even being developed yet ....

[TheMART]

First off, you can't compare the 360 GPU to a PC card at this moment. Not any card has the 10 MB embedded ultrafast RAM for example. Go read the facts again.

And I'm not saying the specs aren't released. I've read them also. It's a standard Nvidia 7900. Actually tests of graphics cards even get the ATI 1900 XTX higher then that card, let alone the 360 GPU with the 10 MB embedded ram which will top that one even.

It's the Sony fanboy The Truth that is saying the specs aren't out for real, not me. I am just reacting on that news. So they are out.

Can a right Sony knowledge guy tell me what is the truth there? And give the real specs then? No speculation?

[ChickeyCantor]

its not hardware that makes the console, its the game developers.

nintendo and microsoft make First party games, so they are the ones who can get evrything out of there consoles.

SOny aint making any games and must rely on third party company's.
Ps2 was a succes look at the amount of games( but be honest more then half was BULLSHIT!)

SOny ps2 was the weakest compared to the others, but the games just kept coming.
its not about hardware its about how much support you have from developers.

Wii is just a GC? ( thats what ppl are saying right?) this means for developers that they dont need to learn a new system. and not evry developer wants to spend money on making games that take ages.
the better the hardware the better the games right?...........WRONG its about how creative developers are...making games for Ps3 will cost way more. and if it wont sell then you just lost lots of money.

look how good the Gameboy generation and DS sold. and thats isnt even strong hardware what we have in the consoles these days!
its about how fun and long lasting games are.
not how strong the hardware is.

look at tetris the GFX are so simpel and gameplay is soo simpel, but when you start its like if you dont wanna stop.

and ofcourse GFX and physics are important and all that but that doenst make a game good.
so i really dont care what the specs are so thats why im going for the Wii cozz i know the games will be great ( and i know this since i ownd a NES ;) )

[CAPS LOCK]

actually i did have viva pinyata ok,

and i never said i would buy a ps3 for the youth centre, i just said the kids did not like it( by the waye ur right its not released but i downloaded it and burned it) they did want a wii because of that and i will be buying one for the shop, i didnt say anything about the ps3, i am getting my ps3 in my house.

and to clarify i did download the game onto a dvd then got the covers from the net and printed it out onto photo paper, put it in the case and the guy at GAME took it back and i got sly2 the racoon for it.

[TheMART]

YOU CAN'T HAVE VIVA PINIATA FOR 360 DUMBASS IT'S NOT RELEASED YET

Man you must have no brains at all. You can't even download it and burn it. You start to get dumber by the minute. MAN YOU'RE DUMB

Furthermore, you play illegal stuff probably saying you're downloading games. Please stay on PS then and keep copying. The format will die soon then. You are so stupid OMG can't even believe it

[ACE]

really mate ?

wow look theres a pig flying in the air..

you sony fan BOYS are funny keep it up...

[Daewoodrow]

Dear god man save a little bit of self respect here. We all know you are lying. Viva Pinata is not out on any console or PC yet at all, and even if you somehow got an advanced copy, you would not have "returned it".

And stop calling him "the Fart", it's not funny, it makes you look twelve. I can call you Cr@pslock, that doesn't make me a poet.

[Karibu]

Actually it's funny calling him the fart. The Mart always brings 'bad air' with his comments XDDD

[ACE]

i know someone who is working on the ps3 project etc.....

i will hint """"" the ps3 WILL be the disapointment of the decade """"" """

sony fan boys grow up ffs .......

there are games missing on the lists but thats cos they not in development yet ,, well like 80% ...

zypher theres no need to start lieing over this article mate , yes ign/gamespot might have more but bottom line is that list has games that aint even being developed yet ....

[Aramis001]

To my knowledge the word "pwned" started in Warcraft III, where apparently a line was supposed to read, "you just got owned," and due to a typo read, "you just got pwned." After that, the word stuck.

Either that, or it started due to misspellings since the P and O keys are so close to one another.

[STFU XBOX U SCARED]

The Mart is so opinionated, even more so than me, he's such an Microsoft elitist! His points are utter BS i don't see how anybody listens to him. Oh and mart the PS3 is way better than the 360 enouth of this crap about the exclusivs and more games nonsense; the 360 has a year lead enough time to get things in place, but yet they still wont get the job done. Also about your list of exclusivs don't talk sh*te, Playstation 3 has loads more exclusivs than that, for a star 4 at launch, Warhawk, Resistance fall of man, heavingly sowrd,Motorstorm, better than nearly every current XBOX 360 Games and you said it Mart i'd rather own a console with a few good games than a console with hundreds of sh*t games aka Microsoft's XBOX sucks machine!

[TheMART]

So if you're less opinionated then me, go read the post 100. It says it all man.

Furthermore: I give you facts, you shout without any backing up.

For Warhawk, Resistance, Motorstorm and so on read my post above.

I guess the PS doesn't suck so much as you do yourself

[Bill Gates]

I am convinced that “TheMART” is actually Peter Moore. He’s getting desperate. hahahahhaha

[DJ]

probably.

[mikeeno7]

At the least theMart doesn't have a name like 'STFU XBOX U SCARED'. Very sad.

[kewlkat007]

Plx Sony can't Make no good First-party games. They never had now breakthrough title, like Sega=sonic, nintendo=Mario and company, Xbox=Halo. Sony doesn't really have an image.

Now they realy on 3rd-party which is why they have some good games on there in the first place(yes alot of sequals).

Now if these 3rd party developers start to jump ship then sony won't be main system of choice. Thats if its really because of the games, why PS3 has a huge cult following.

anyhow the sh!t is not out but we tlak on here like its been out for 2 years. Fanboys can sure create Propoganda.

[4me2]

What games were actually developed for XBOX by MS? Not distributed by MS Game Studios.
I know they're developing for Windows.

[DJ]

But honestly they have so many great 1st and 2nd party titles under the hood that there's no reason to stick with one character. It may have been popular to have mascots back in the PS1 era, but honestly the appeal has worn off.

Master Chief is Microsoft's mascot 'cause Halo saved the Xbox. Ask anyone to name best Xbox titles and their list will probably start and end with Halo. Ok, a precious few will add Mechassault and Panzer Dragoon into it.

[ChickeyCantor]

Ps3 better, xbox better..............BLA BLA BLA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

[4me2]

Exactly !!!!

[ChickeyCantor]

lets get some snipers, hand guns, and some TNT ....really im starting to get anoyed by the fantrany's

[CAPS LOCK]

ok i lied and so what like any other of u haven't, especially the mart and the real deal, are hipocrits, remeber the mart said ps3 only had 256mb ram, he said it couldnt handle games like quake properly, but then a article came on and proved the ps3 had 512 ram...so i lied and so what...

[ChickeyCantor]

256mb could work, it depends on how they use the hardware.
next to that Video-ram is also important.

Caps-lock.
the whole media is a lie!

[TheMART]

I never said the PS3 only had 256 MB ram. I stated that the GPU is only able to use that memory. The 360 has flexibility up to complete 512 MB Ram.
That is stated multiple times on the internet. That's not comparable to you lying having Viva Piniata bought or downloaded for a youth centre kids thing. You are pathetic.
Crapf*ck

[DJ]

in the PS3. This was stated by nVidia's Jen-Hsun Huang at Sony's Pre-E3 conference in 2005. The 35GB/s connection between Cell and RSX means that they can communicate extremely fast and work on tasks without any bottlenecks. 360 has a single 20Gb/s connection, but that connection is shared by both the CPU and GPU to access I/O functions and RAM. Cell and RSX have two 20 Gb/s connections to their respective RAM modules.

Best of all, Cell can skin and render geometry and effects while RSX renders other sections of a scene. The data just gets sent over instantaneously and pasted together. Warhawk already does this brilliantly.

Cell procedurally generates the ocean and clouds while RSX does everything else.

[CAPS LOCK]

i am not brainwashed by my 360, u think gears of wars is the best and u probably get orgasims over it, its a good game and thats all i dont think the game will be longer than 6 hours to compleate unless u put it on super hard mode.

[TheMART]

You don't even own a 360 if you don't know that Viva Piniata is not released yet.

Another lie from Crapsf*ck

[TheMART]

"Both the 360 and the Wii have more games in development. It is understandable that the 360 would have more games since it had a year headstart, but the fact the Sony is behind even the Nintendo Wii does indicate (as does our last post) that the PS3 may have the smallest library of games."

It still is funny to read. PS is last in exclusives and it could get 3rd place overall

[CAPS LOCK]

the only reason nintendo has more games coming than the ps3 its because the games are easier to make on the wii, it does not require to be on blu-ray or hi def, or maybe not online and other stuff.

[TheMART]

The only reason PS3 falls short of exclusives, is because it's a pain in the ars to make games on

Crapsf*ck keep playing Viva Piniata on your imaginairy 360. That's all you own in your little imaginairy world because you can't even afford a Wii

[Marriot VP]

what does it say on your picture cause no one can see what's written there

[DJ]

and that's why Xbots like you keep claiming that Assassins Creed isn't a PS3 exclusive and that everything Sony shows are CG lies? Grow up and open your eyes. Even with so many 360 exclusives in development, I can still count all of the promising 360 titles with one hand. Quality before quantity.

Stop hating on great PS3 titles and go back to playing your 360, unless of course it's so boring that you have to come here and complain about other people's consoles.

[ACE]

YOU QUICKLY FORGET ABOUT THE 100+MB + 1 SPE RESERVED FOR os on ps3 and on top of this the figures R over hyped by sony ....

as for Quality before quantity yeah ur right , the ps2 was bad for this so many poor games out of the so called big libery lol!!..

the 360 has gr8 games mate , BUT i think alot of there games r an aquired taste mostly targeted towards hard core gamers ....

i have said this b4 , i know some one who is working on the ps3 project unfortnaly i cant say much but theres gona be alot of upset sony fan boys come november and i think sony are bad for what they have made there fans to believe roll on november and you all will find out just how over hyped it is :)

[ACE]

i dont think the xbots r as bad as the sony droids mate the sony droids are 10 times bad

[DJ]

Where do you get this kind of information?! LOL 100 Mb for the PS3 operating system? Since when did Sony ever say that, let alone their developers? There were rumors that it was 96 Mb, but I haven't seen anything supporting them. Allowing the operating system to take over an SPE at any moment though doesn't seem very farfetched, especially if the OS requires a lot of processing power to run (things like Video chat and such).

Wait until there's official information before you start spouting random crap. Paying more attention to a rival's system than your own is pretty pathetic. You should be a Microsoft exec someday.

[ACE]

you r full of crap mate ......

sony would do good employing brain washed noobs like ur self to work for them....

you realy need to chill out mate .

lol you will see,,, come november i want to hear what you have to say lol....

[kurnlx]

We talk and we talk, but we do not really know what will happen. I think I do though, and I cannot wait to see it all unfold. Good luck Sony, you'll need it!

[ChickeyCantor]

.........The mart i know you dont like sony but just stop it. its useless
o well SONY good luck.

[STFU XBOX U SCARED]

You are laughable at your attemps to destroy PS3's momentum, the fact is you are so scared that the PS3 is gonna whhop Xbox 360 but, you feel you have to try and help, but let me ask, what is it good for, absolutely nothing!

[STFU XBOX U SCARED]

It just hit me the reason you love Xbox 360 so much is because you'r e compensating for what you don't have! A PS3 well mate don't worry come November 17th you can finally be part of the next generation of gamming rather than a broken down preview demo disk of the next generation! Haha!

[ChickeyCantor]

XBOX360 users are already playing next gen for a YEAR!. so what has PS3 to offer now?.....

XBOX360 users are already playing next gen for a YEAR!. so what has PS3 to offer now?.....

XBOX360 users are already playing next gen for a YEAR!. so what has PS3 to offer now?.....

XBOX360 users are already playing next gen for a YEAR!. so what has PS3 to offer now?.....

XBOX360 users are already playing next gen for a YEAR!. so what has PS3 to offer now?.....

[STFU XBOX U SCARED]

fact is Sony has the best racing game comming out GT5, best beat em ups VF5 and Tekken 6, that's 2 catagories Lame Box 360 never seems to be able to win and Sony will have the best 1st Person shooter Killzone 2 hahaha, 360 loosers!

[ChickeyCantor]

STFU you talk so big that you seemed to be scared too !

[kurnlx]

VF 5 will eventually be brought to the 360. In the mean time we have DOA. GT5 is old news, And Killzone being the best first person shooter....huh...HALO 3

[NJ1307RSX]

Can be old news if it hasn't come out yet.

BTW GT4 was better than forza and it didn't even have a dedicated GPU, so its common sense that GT5 will be better than forza 2.

[STFU XBOX U SCARED]

If there's one thing i always new that was definate about the PS2 is that i knew GT4 was the best racing game out on any racing platform, don't give me that Fozra nonsense i have the game and i don't like it, not even a scratch on GT4 or 3 for that matter. So please tell me how Fozra 2 will be better than GT5 because i fail to see how, GT5 is improving in everyway there is so u know Fozra 2 ain't gonna be laughing come GT5 launch!

[Bhai]

4 getting down this very week buddies...

1.Bullet Witch (CRAP/Super Boredom)
2.Sylpheed (Hilarious Arcade GFX)
3.ZegaPain (pain in any player's a--)
4.99 Nights (Ha Ha Ha failed motion blur, frame rate drops, smilar ugly animation...check out the review yourselves!!!)
http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...
Now these are the third generation 360 titles and not to mention 'crazy party' and the rest. So with all these crappy xclusives, 360 can knock itself out any time it likes!

[kurnlx]

I'm saying the whole GT series is tired! I can just see it now...GT92..gimmie a break!

[kurnlx]

Lost Planet, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Too Human, Prey, Bioshock, Fable 2, Alan Wake, need I say more.