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Pachter Predicts No New Console Cycle, Everything Going Cloud Based

Video game industry analyst, Michael Pachter, recently spoke at a Q&A session at PAX that was filmed for his show “Pach Attack”, which appears on GameTrailers. The very first question that he was asked was whether or not he thinks it would be possible for another company to bring a brand new console to the market. Pachter responded by saying that he doesn’t think that there will be a new console cycle at all, and that everything will be moving to streaming server-based solutions like OnLive.

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darkcharizard4959d ago

There'll be at least one more console cycle, imo

ForceCSW4959d ago

If Patcher said it then you expect the opposite. There will probably be a million more console cycles now lol.

Edward-Kraken4959d ago

I predict Pachter will not STFU anytime soon.

MrMccormo4959d ago

There WILL be at least one or two more console cycles.

My opinion? Handheld gaming platforms have a better chance of going cloud-based before consoles do, because of how handhelds are slowly melding with cell phones.

But here in the USA at least, we are not even close to cloud-based gaming for everyone. All you need to play games is a TV and the game console. Lots of people aren't going to like it if you have to add a paid monthly internet service as a requirement.

Shadow Flare4959d ago

I know pachter comes out with stupid things sometimes, but this prediction is just ridiculous. He expects Sony, nintendo and Microsoft to all go cloud based gaming?? No way! Not for quite a while anyway. Didn't Sony themselves say their next console will use disc based storage? Seriously pachter....pretty much everyone on n4g who comments would do a better job at predicting things then you. Seriously

Lifendz4959d ago

All go cloud? What about the people that don't have access to broadband internet? Are they just left out? No. Until we have fast and affordable internet in all the major video game markets, there will always be a console.

ravinash4959d ago

How many countries in the world have the network infrastructure to allow cloud gaming???

japan might, but everywhere else....no way.
US is too big for everyone to get it and most of the rest of the world are years behind with their current setup.

There will be a market for a stand alone console for many years to come.

PopEmUp4959d ago

I stopped reading at "Pachter"
What's this article about?
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go and read it if you wanna know what it about

The Killer4959d ago (Edited 4959d ago )

if the console wanna lose money, then the best way to do it is by making cloud consoles!!

because the only countries that will have the technology to support the could gaming would be very few i.e. USA, UK, France, Spain, Japan and very few other countries!!

what about the rest of the world? so i think we might not see cloud console until the next 20 years!

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8thnightvolley4959d ago

i agree too that there is at least one more console live cycle, and this one will be one hell of a beast of tech coz they will surely be the longest cycle even more than the ps3 and xbox360 due to the fact console companies like MS and sony even nintendo are clear that over time these consoles have to evolve like pc with new tech and new addtitions and if they are not flexible enough they will quickly become outdated, its become a new expectancy to always ask a console of 4 or 5 years what else can ur console do and can it do this or that, .. onlive on the other hand will take off on consoles but it will be needed to have a serious visual and technical edge to appeal to the hardcore but yet again not all hardcore players are fund of not having their disc at hand to be sure and knw u acutally own that game and not some vapourware that can be taken if u dont play for a service.

Downtown boogey4959d ago (Edited 4959d ago )

Uh... The reason for the increasing duration of life cycles is that with each new step, technology evolves thus making the new games require correspondingly more time.

Downtown boogey4959d ago

Depends how long this cycle'll be. I think the last cycle will partially co-exist with the cloud but ultimately be subdued.

dredgewalker4959d ago

I predict that Pachter will never shut up about any gaming related predictions.

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EYEamNUMBER14959d ago

wait i don't get it this makes no sense to me even if the future did go cloud gaming you would still need a console to access that

so technically speaking that is a console cycle no?

kevnb4959d ago

you wouldnt need a console, you could use a laptop or something like an apple tv.

ZombieAutopsy4959d ago

Doubt it since only about half of console owners are connected to the internet and Sony/MS/NiN all make money of royalties from games on their consoles.

belal4959d ago

be consoles, it sells, why not make another one lol. patcher is really stupid.

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning775h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv725h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

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thorstein1d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno20h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k419h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson18h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu19h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson18h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -