According to history, it looks like we have a lot to thank the Romans for, and does this game live up to their great name?
In our current society, it is generally accepted that everyone should obey by rules which don’t offend other people. In recent times, this has also seeped into the gaming industry and led developers to try and be as “PC” (politically correct) as possible so as not to offend the masses. This, in my opinion, is an attempt by people who get too easily offended to silence free speech.
I completely agree with everything that was said in the article. Just because one person gets offended by something doesn't mean a developer should have to change something about their game. I mean the point of a game is not to be politically correct but to have fun. In my opinion this political correctness bull crap is getting ridiculous. People need to stop letting every little thing offend them and just learn to relax and have fun. There's worse things in the world to get offended over than the way a character poses in a game or just because you saw a little nip slip or a dangling penis.
Political correctness itself offends a lot of people. But that never seems to matter.
Like maybe you change a character in the game to avoid possibly offending a tiny populations and you end up upsetting half the people who wanted to play the game instead
"Political correctness itself offends a lot of people. But that never seems to matter. "
So instead of moving the social standards forward we should instead pander to the sexists, homophobes, bigots and racists? Because it's better to let the hate filled groups offend other people than let them be offended by having to treat people fairly, right?
"@ashlen- political correctness doesn't change any of those attitudea, it just makes them go underground."
Well that's better than allowing them to openly spread hate as far as I'm concerned.
@Ashlen So your idea of "moving social standards forward" is censorship?
Who's talking about censorship? I'm talking about the backwardness of uth's statement. I support creative freedom.
Lol you already triggered an SJW.
Is that the best you can come up with, name calling?
@Dragonknight, I really don't want to go though this with you again. Last time we discussed this stuff you devolved into name massive name calling which is why i'm not surprised you supported this guy who had nothing of interest to say except to call me a SJW which adds nothing intelligent to the conversation.
Let me explain to you. There is a differences between how you relate to people in day to day and personal feeling. For example I support the KKK to have rallies supporting their beliefs but I do not support burning crosses on peoples lawns or burning down minority churches.
Just like I can support representing minorities in gaming and not support the censorship of games that come from Japan or anywhere else. If the KKK wants to make a game, fine, but also if a game company wants to make a game with a minority who's a homosexual fine.
"So it's your contention that progress is the rescinding of rights so as to protect ever changing, unpredictable feelings rather than teach people to mature emotionally and come to the understanding that themes and words are only as powerful as the individual allows them to be? Progress.
Suppressed ideas coalesce and eventually create irrational hatred that far outlives their originators. The correct approach is allowing the "hate" (more accurately known as disagreeing with regressive ideology) to have a completely public presence and be completely mocked and berated by logic and maturity. People are more likely to shut up when their ideas are shouted down as being absolutely moronic (if they in fact are) by the masses than they are by having the government impose emotionally based sanctions on rights and freedoms."
You fail to understand that when you don't try to stop this behavior it feels empowered and grows. A perfect example is the recent Brexit vote, as soon as that happened those types of people felt empowered and hate crimes skyrocketed. You can't just sit back and wait for people to change. Sometimes you have to move the social standard forward or else anger spreads. Sometimes you have to tell people they are wrong.
It's unfair for innocent people to have to feel harassed in order to "wait" for these angry people to realize they are wrong because they might not ever. And even if the majority thinks it's O.K. to harass and treat people unfairly that doesn't make it right. In the south in America the majority thought slavery was right, but it wasn't. People had to fight that idea to make it stop.
I stand by what I said about uth's original comment that I quoted and the only regret I have is that I didn't explain my feelings better to begin with.
Art has always offended certain people on various levels and make no mistake about it - games are art. Art should never curve its honesty to avoid aggrieving the few or the many.
@Ashlen So your idea of "moving social standards forward" is censorship? I've personally never played a bigoted, sexist homophobic racist game. Do those even exist? I don't even believe it is sexist to have scantily clad female characters.
I think when it comes to developers as a team they must unite in term of vision and respect each other beliefs. They really have to grow up and do that. Otherwise, many unnecessary problems will occur and effect the studio.
So make the game you want as long you don't mean to offend anyone.
If someone made a complaint , reply to it with respect. Then make your decision , however, at this case i would advice to change it just out of respect and that have benefit in the business too.More audience will give support and respect you if you made the effort. But still your choice..
But if the complaints have consequences you have to change it for the greater good.
You can be creative without offending. So grow up and be realistic, the more you appeal to people the better the result.
@morganfell
Tell that to the good folks at Bioware that were involved in Mass Effect 3! We can either have crowd sourced opinions on design which makes many people as it can happy based on player base statistics or we can have artistic license where we trust a developer to execute their vision. You're going to have a vocal minority bitching about it regardless...
@ashlen- political correctness doesn't change any of those attitudea, it just makes them go underground.
@Ashlen: "So instead of moving the social standards forward we should instead pander to the sexists, homophobes, bigots and racists?"
So it's your contention that progress is the rescinding of rights so as to protect ever changing, unpredictable feelings rather than teach people to mature emotionally and come to the understanding that themes and words are only as powerful as the individual allows them to be? Progress.
"Because it's better to let the hate filled groups offend other people than let them be offended by having to treat people fairly, right?"
Because "treat fairly" means removing people's rights to free expression because someone else, an individual who is completely in control over whether or not they take offense (because offense is a choice),, is offended; rather than the already fair and equal treatment of allowing EVERYONE to express themselves as they see fit? Progress.
"Well that's better than allowing them to openly spread hate as far as I'm concerned."
Not on your life. Suppressed ideas coalesce and eventually create irrational hatred that far outlives their originators. The correct approach is allowing the "hate" (more accurately known as disagreeing with regressive ideology) to have a completely public presence and be completely mocked and berated by logic and maturity. People are more likely to shut up when their ideas are shouted down as being absolutely moronic (if they in fact are) by the masses than they are by having the government impose emotionally based sanctions on rights and freedoms.
"Who's talking about censorship? I'm talking about the backwardness of uth's statement. I support creative freedom."
You are. You support Political Correctness. It is antithetical to freedom of expression and inherently pro-censorship.
"Lol you already triggered an SJW."
You.
"Is that the best you can come up with, name calling?"
Not at all, but it is succinct and apt.
@Dolf,
When people take such actions to appease the public, regardless of the percentage, their art becomes dishonest and thus far less than it might have been.
Yeah lol, the nitpicking groups such as them SJWs and feminazis tried to claim the BS that "you're able to kill women in GTAV, stahp it" (despite claiming gender equality as always, yet ignoring and constant attemped diversion of the one thing about equal rights - "equal rights = equal punishment"), yet 30+ million people didn't care in the first week of GTAV sales breaking records for game sales.
I feel like you need to prioritize your time better. I'm not sure you should spend so many moments of your life harping on things which you do not like. Instead, celebrate what you love. I myself learned to take the proverbial stick out and just relax. Instead of complaining about a book that has offensive material, I'd rather just read a different one, etc.
Hah
Well I'm sure plenty of people view it differently than I do, based on the fights you see online, and in the world.
I've said this before but its like watching a person put their hand on a stove. It burns their hands and they flail about making all kinds of shrieks and noises.
Yet they never take their hand off.
I don't think anything should worry about being politically correct... It should be the creators view of their story.
People are easily impressionable....should keep it pc especially while we have people around who will find the smallest explanation to defend their ignorance
100% agree. I want to enjoy an artist's art. If someone's making something I don't like, why try and destroy it? There are many things that make me uncomfortable, but I do not think that they should not exist.
I havw know idea what the aithor is talking about. Someone give me a example of what hw is talking about.
Gamed should be games. I have never been offerended by a game.
Does the author even no what free speech means. A lot of Americans think the know what free speech means.
Aside from games, showing people common courtest isn't a bad thing.
dawg. what juu on about.
juzt relax adn enjoy freedom in games while we can...
m key! hope u undrestand mai speak! ;)
Soldier, not sure if you are trying to be fecisious about my typos or what. Using my phone and auto correct caused those typos.
I'm as thick skinned as they come. As a 21 year combat vet who just recently retired, so I've seen or heard it all. All I do now is stay relaxed. People say that people are way to sensitive, but that is subjective. Someone may not be sensitive to nudity, but they may not be sensitive racism, nudity, etc.
I enjoy freedom period. Gaming is a fun and a passion, but it isn't that serious. While I think the media likes to opinionate and blow PC out of poportion....this is the main problem.
I'm just saying, that showing common courtesy should be human nature. Some people say that why worry about if a small amount/minority is offended by something. This has been said for hundreds of years. People didn't respect the rights of certain races or women....it used to be okay to beat your spouse or significant other...it used to be accepted to fondle or harass a coworker. That social atmosphere has changed for the better. It's called....progression.
Again, being courteous and showing respect to others is the way to go. For example, I brought a house in a rural area. One of my neighbors does a lot of fireworks. But noticed that I never attended or watched why he popped fireworks. So one day he asked me. I told him about my combat experience and that fireworks, loud sounds, etc can sometimes cause me to have panic attacks...you know the whole PTSD thing. He could have easily said so what. He told me that he would go out even further to do his fireworks and do less. I told him not to. I told him to fire away as that is a good reason to live in the country. He didn't fire any fireworks the following 4th of July anyway. I had went out and brought a couple of boxes full of fireworks and lit up the sky that night and he came over during the show. He told me he was trying to be considerate to me. I told him thanks, but it was okay. He could have just considered me unpatriotic or a wuss or who knows, but he showed maturity and consideration with others.
I know that was a long rant, but back on topic. I say let video games be fun and should have freedom. At the same time people need to be mature and consoderate.
@sayai jin "Using my phone and auto correct caused those typos."
autocorrect caused 'havw", "aithor", "hw", "offerended", "courtest" (The "Gamed" and "no" instead of know can be bypassed by autocorrect)?
Deadpool, yes it did. My daughter usesy phone to play games and send text to my wife and family members. So if she types a mispelled words and clicks a check mark the the auto correct uses that new word as the correct word.
Spelling isn't that difficult. I would think with a Master's and Bachelor's degree I can type common words in the English vocabulary...not to mention being flue t in Japanese and speak some French and German. So please.
Civilization fans will be happy to hear of Sid Meier week on GamersGate, taking 50% off all games in the distributor's catalog under the name.
Chris Remo from Gamasutra writes:
"Independent developer and publisher Stardock is nearly doubling its staff -- and CEO Brad Wardell tells Gamasutra the expansion will allow the company to develop a new RPG title as well as restart development on its dormant RTS/MMO hybrid Society.
Part of the plan includes a new 53-person development team, which is to begin work on a new, as yet unannounced, roleplaying game. Stardock's current main team, responsible for the Galactic Civilizations series as well as the upcoming Elemental: War of Magic, will refocus on Society as soon as it wraps up development on Elemental early next year.
Wardell declined to elaborate on the untitled RPG, given its current unscheduled -- likely far-off -- release period. But in an interview with Gamasutra last year, Wardell alluded to plans for a new development team and referenced BioWare as a touchstone."
