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Did Anyone Win This Generation?

Think back to the years 2004 and 2005. The Playstation 2 ruled the video game universe and nobody had any concept of quality handheld gaming beyond Pokemon, which wasn't exactly pretty to look at. All the analysts and fans were picking their favorites based on E3 keynote speakers and pure hearsay. But five years later I feel like it's fair to look back and figure out who actually won this generation. Was it Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft? Was it anybody?

lovemyps35416d ago

lol thats a funny avatar! ;)

Joule5416d ago

no the generation is not over.

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-Alpha5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Yeah, pretty much the gamers.

Financially, Nintendo, and since this is by far the most important, Nintendo has succeeding tremendously.

Microsoft did a great job gaining marketshare from last gen, but they used a double sided sword by releasing such a faulty product.

Sony lost a lot of marketshare, but has definitely the most stable future of all three.

gamingdroid5415d ago

I think you got it spot on, but if I had to crown a winner Nintendo hands down. A company don't really care about your feelings, your loyalty or your dedication to their product. They just want your money and Nintendo gots lot of money this generation.

MS and Sony has been bleeding money since the start of this generation and is just about to recover into break even territory is my guess.

rockleex5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Nintendo is making TONS of profit.

Microsoft gained a lot of market share.

Sony providing the best hardware and games.

Last generation PS2 had the sales/profit, and the most AAA games. The hardware was a 3 way tie as they each had their own specific strengths. So Sony was the clear winner in everyone's eyes.

You just couldn't ignore the PS2. You NEEDED one. 9 out of 10 games you wanted to play were exclusively on the PS3.

While this generation gamers could ignore the Wii's games, and gravitate towards the HD consoles. But the problem is its mainly the same games across the PS3 and 360!

-Alpha5414d ago

Yup, Sony and MS have both been bleeding green while Nintendo has been sucking blood like a Twilight vampire.

Also, I meant to say "most important to the companies" above as I don't particularly think profits is the most important thing for me personally.

DaTruth5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

The whole marketshare thing is unproven, as there are few 360 owners still on their first 360 and lots with 2, 3, 4 and even five.

Obviously not all of those replacements count as a sale, but MS has really skewed this area to the point of non-recognition and it just has to be thrown out for this gen.

Last gen = 120M PS2, 24M XBOX and 22M Gamecube. 166M Total after six years.

This gen = 73M Wii, 39M PS3 and 42M 360. 154M Total after four years.

This is a statistical dead heat and we are only four years into this gen, considering that last gen was about 6 years in total, there is a number problem here. We know there are people who bought their first console this gen and many around the globe in nations that are unable to even purchase a next gen console yet.

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BrianG5415d ago

Dang, lovemyps3, when I saw this article i thought, THE GAMERS, but you beat me to it, bravo.

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Imperator5414d ago

The only good year for the 360 was 2007 imo. 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all belong to the PS3 (and Sony isn't even done announcing new titles).

tinybigman5415d ago

me as a gamer who owns all 3 consoles and the great games for them.

Christopher5415d ago

Well, at least the gamers who don't disagree with you. There are a lot of gamers out there who are losing out on what it means to be a gamer.

Nintenuendo5415d ago

EXACTLY!

Can't we just leave it at this?

BX815415d ago

Hells yeah we did I have a PS3/360 and I've played some kick ass games!

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SOAD5416d ago

"Well, it turns out the PS3 wasn't nearly as powerful as Sony made it out to be. It looks fairly similar to the 360 in every capacity. Sure, you could install Linux on the system, but the internet browser is woefully bad as are many of the other computer features on the system. Sony stepped up its game with first party titles in this generation like God of War III, Uncharted 1 and 2 as well as a couple Ratchet and Clanks. But really they didn't have a fantastic game like Halo or Mario. It was just a bunch of good games and customizable ones that are fun for 5 minutes like ModNation Racers, a blatant MarioKart ripoff, and LittleBigPlanet. Sure it's fun to watch Sackboy play Sweet Child of Mine and dress him up like Henry XIII, but that gets old fast. Their games obviously outsold Nintendo's for the most part but the system didn't come close. It was a distant third. The people who predicted that Sony would dominate again and still be synonymous with video games were clearly mistaken."

*nose bleeds profusely

lovemyps35416d ago (Edited 5416d ago )

lol a fantastic game like halo or mario? what about demons souls, uncharted 2, metal gear solid 4, littlebigplanet,those games were incredible, even got game of the year. i think the author means AN ICON OF AN IMAGE...like xbox has halo, nintendo has mario...ps3 has all types of icons. ;) crazy article.

Tommykrem5416d ago (Edited 5416d ago )

Now you're just talking crap. Firstly, you can't install Linux on the PS3. Have you been paying any attention the last six months?
And no fantastic games? PS3 had Game of the Year last year (Uncharted 2, obviously... and Demon's Souls actually), and the year before (GTAIV and Fallout 3 took a lot of GotY's in 2008, but MGS4 and LBP took even more)

Two out of three of my favourite games this generation are PS3 exclusives (again LBP and MGS4) so don't come here and say that PS3 doesn't have any fantastic games. LBP gets old fast? I'm still playing it, and incredible levels just keep on coming. You can even play LBP as an FPS now!
ModNation Racers is a Mario kart rip-off!? Mario Kart wasn't even the first kart racing game, and ModNation is the first game in years that adds a lot to the genre.Yes, Wii and 360 has sold more.
The generation isn't over though, and the PS3 is still very expensive compared to its competitors.

What I meant to say is that in my eyes PS3 is the console of choice this generation, but that's in MY eyes. Unlike last generation there's not a clear winner. If you could kill just to play Super Mario Galaxy then Wii is your choice, if a near perfect online experience and Halo/Gears of War, not to mention Forza is your brand of Vodka, then 360 is your choice. And if you like me, just simply need GT5 (or any other PS3 exclusive) then PS3 is your console of choice.

So don't come here and tell people what to think!

RyuCloudStrife5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

"Mario Kart wasn't even the first kart racing game"

Mario Kart goes so far back to the snes.. http://101videogames.files....

Seferoth755414d ago

Wii has twice the install base of PS3.. Kinda hard to not say it isnt over unless you are a fanboy or just ignorant to how gaming has worked.

Shadow Flare5416d ago

Soad was just quoting the article btw, that wasn't his own opinion, so I dunno why people are disagreeing with him.

I mean, that part of the article was all tripe but I hated this sentence the most:

"Sure it's fun to watch Sackboy play Sweet Child of Mine and dress him up like Henry XIII, but that gets old fast."

That's his summary of lbp. Sooooooort of missing the point of the game. Sort of forgetting you can build entire levels, make really complex levels and build practically anything. It's one of the most amazing games ever. And this article is one of the most amazingly BS articles ever

SOAD5416d ago

Pardon me you buffoons, but if you actually read the article you would know that the large paragraph in my post is an excerpt from said article, and that I am clearly showing disdain for the excerpt and the article overall with my short comment to the excerpt on the bottom of my post. However, you fanboy idiots neglected to observe the quotation marks encompassing the paragraph in my post, and instead chose to comment with your pathetic roflcopter bullshit responses, attacking me for sharing the same point of you as yourselves.

And you, lovemyps3, are just another mutation of an existing fanboy. Why don't you stick to your other account, eh? Are you down to your final bubble?

yewles15416d ago

Aww, another tirade from another pixel nazi... XD

Unicron5415d ago

Oh Soad, intelligence is not rewarded here my friend.

stonecold35416d ago

ps3 is 3 x times more powerful than 360 .360 does not match ps3 in power neither technolgy

SOAD5416d ago

Yeah, I was quoting a paragraph from the article for the lulz. It was not my personal opinion, as was shown by my 'nose bleeds profusely' response.

Pandamobile5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

The PS3 is not 3x more powerful than the 360. That's a retarded statement to make.

Cenobia5415d ago

Also the quotation marks.

Mista T5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

stupid comment, if it were 3x more powerful why would mafia 2 be effected or how about the lower res in GTA4. ignorance is bliss I suppose

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nycredude5415d ago

Guys SOAD is just saying reading that gave him a nosebleed.

Gilliand5414d ago

Wow I thought people on N4G weren't that stupid. I'm sadly mistaken.

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pixelsword5416d ago (Edited 5416d ago )

Not withstanding that this generation isn't over yet:

- if you're going for sales numbers on the console itself, the Wii is winning thus far.

- if you're going for games, hmmm... many arguments can be made that if you're talking about the "biggest" AAA games versus the "most" AAA games you're looking at a mix between the 360's biggest title game "Halo" (I don't know if a bigger game has came out yet that matched or could match the sales numbers of Halo games: GT5 doesn't count because it's not out yet). The "most" AAA games were easily on the PS3, as they own their own studios and put out a lot of high quality titles.

-If you're talking about the tech, the PS3 has it. No offense to any other console.

Not to downgrade the blu-Ray, the built in ports and wi-fi, and the low failure rate for such a powerful console, but the Cell Processor hasn't even been fully realized in games and a lot of people will tell you that. The reason for the slow advancement on The Cell is that there is no back-library for the Cell. PC compliant code on the Wii and the 360 has a rich library. The Cell probably could go another ten years before it's officially "maxed out". Between that enigma that is known as "Lair" which is so far and still one of the most advanced games out (even if it's a little clunky in some small spots) and Saboteur's PS3 anti-aliasing with steady advances in between from other developers, once this knowledge is pooled together, greater advances will come even faster.

Focker-4205416d ago

This gen is far from over, but as of right now the PS3 has a distant lead. Thats of course my opinion. If you're a gamer and you don't have a PS3, shame on you.

Gr815416d ago

My. Lame ass article..And factually off.

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Ex-dev leader Chris Barrett accuses Sony/Bungie of firing him to avoid a $45M payment

Chris Barrett was one of the prominent developers who was fired a few years ago during the Me Too scandals that hit the game industry.

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gold_drake197d ago

girl, 8 women reported you.

thats how that works. u wrre not "entitled" to anything.

shouldnt have been a creep.

DarXyde197d ago

"While that sounds despicable, Barrett was accused of crossing the line between professional and personal behavior. In the course of its journalistic investigation of the Me Too scandal, Bloomberg interviewed eight people, including multiple women who reported Barrett, as well as other Bungie employees who were either involved in the investigation or spoke to the women involved."

Yeah, sounds like you did it, dawg.

jznrpg197d ago

I’d avoid paying you 45$ mil with all those problems you brought

gold_drake196d ago

thats what i thought too haha

pwnmaster3000196d ago

On who.
8 girls reported him.
He is trying to save by putting blame on something else other then the situation he put himself in

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Here's how PlayStation's 30th anniversary London Tube carriage looks

PlayStation is celebrating its upcoming 30th Anniversary by letting you sit on its logo while riding the Victoria Line in London.

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MaximusPrime_214d ago

Reminds me of Sony's other awesome PS promotion in London, such as OXO tower and London underground roundels. All with shapes replaced with PlayStation's iconic 4 controller shapes.

Awesome promotion, Sony!

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goken213d ago

Awww… i wanna ride that train!

Die hard Xbox fans be like “I’ll catch the next one”

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Kadokawa Confirms Interest From Sony in Official Statement

Kadokawa has confirmed interest from Sony in an official statement, clarifying that nothing has been decided yet.

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lukasmain220d ago

Lock it down Sony and lets get Bloodborne 2 and Demon's Souls 2 cooking.

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Miraak82 220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

I'd rather FS work on ER2 or new Ips that they can actually own just incase they ever break away from Sony if this happens, wouldn't want them to become just Sony ponies for their neglected IPs . On the upside of this though I wouldn't mind having an actually Sony 1st party rpg developer which I feel they're lacking . My feeling are mixed on this without even considering the monopoly they would have on the anime/manga side of things

oldenjon219d ago

Seeing as ER is essentially open world dark souls, do we really need ER2 / ds5 so soon?

DarXyde220d ago

Can't they just be contracted by Sony?

Without the acquisition?

goken220d ago

They can be contracted but… it’s like you can call up a girl/guy/others and hook up now and then, then one day you think to yourself “maybe we should go steady” 😛

GamingSinceForever220d ago

You’re focused on a small portion of the deal. Kadokawa is a large media company which is who Sony is after. FromSoftware is only a portion of the deal.

Asterphoenix219d ago

Well the bigger picture is the novel/manga part of the industry of Kadokawa and Sony owning a good portion of the anime companies in the US . Well Sony would contract them again if they could but From Software is too busy doing its own thing.

CrimsonWing69219d ago

Yea ever since Tango Gameworks got dissolved, I’m not exactly gung-ho on acquisitions.

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neutralgamer1992219d ago

These things never used to leak. Now so much stuff leaks ahead of time

Lionsguard219d ago

Leak? It has to be public information, they're both public companies.

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gold_drake220d ago

currently, the kodakawa enterprise is worth a wooping 4 billion dollars. according to google. might be wrong

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jznrpg220d ago

If/when Sony acquires Kadokawa I hope it means that anime games can start to be a lot more than they are now. The stories are fleshed out they just need to add quality gameplay/environments. It makes financial sense to me since you have anime fans and gamers who would buy these games if they are high quality.

maniacmayhem220d ago

Is Sony trying to be a monopoly and keep games out of the hands of gamers? Or is this different?

jznrpg220d ago

So MS should only be allowed to acquire publishers and Sony should sit there? This is a consequence of MS’s actions. This is why we didn’t want ABK to go through. It’s too late to complain now

maniacmayhem220d ago

Are we going to accuse Sony of the same actions then?

You really believe if ABK didn't go through Sony wouldn't be interested in this company now?

Bless your tender heart

thesoftware730219d ago

That is besides the point, there is stance you took against this type of acquisition/monopoly type situations.

It's about you word and your stance..with the it's ok posture you are taking now shows you only find outrage when it fits your nonsensical fanboy, console warrior BS lol

Your word and "Stances" means very lit

glennhkboy219d ago

The nature is different. Kadokawa is more renounce for their extensive rights in Japanese literature, films & amine. Gaming is actually their least known business. If Sony can take over Kadokawa, Sony will become a major media player in Japan (currently Sony Japan has only a small footprint in Japanese media outside of gaming & amine).

Drakul219d ago

You can play MS games on your PS or PC. But Sony has monopoly mind set; release Sony games only on PS or very rarely on PC.

Lexreborn2219d ago

Anyone who is trying to make someone look like a hypocrite after THEY set the standard is a turd. If you want to try and make it seem like you convinced people into agreeing with your view. You didn’t, the people that were against it STATED they were against it. Then when we were told shut up doesn’t matter what you think NOW you want us to continue to fight when it goes against YOUR interest someone you don’t like is playing by YOUR rules?

Naw, we good… enjoy the game you playing and don’t get mad when the company/entity you hate does it better.

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-Foxtrot220d ago

I thought it was more “you guys allowed MS to buy Zenimax and Activision, two massive publishers so it’s fair game now, why should we be left out”

I hate it but you can’t allow one to do it then make out it’s the end of the world when others do it. It’s shitty but MS opened that avenue so all bets are off now.

maniacmayhem220d ago

So basically it's okay to do it because MS did it, right? I think this is what is known as hypocrisy.

Here's the thing, MS is basically putting all their games on everything and the kitchen sink when you and others claimed they wouldn't.

You actually believe Sony will do the same if they acquire this studio?

You all love to shit on MS when these deals go down but then make up excuses and rights of passage when Sony does it, and this is proof.

goken220d ago

@maniacmayhem

Believe me MS is putting it everywhere not because they want to, but because it doesn’t sell (well) on their own platform (xbox). If they did that, they would lose money, nevermind recuperate their the money they spent buying studios.
Sony on the other hand may or may not have the same problem (probably not).
Hey sony and fans weren’t the ones going “exclusive bad” , they just disagreed MS buying these massive publishers. And since MS did it, let’s just say “to not reciprocate is impolite “

LikAChicken219d ago

@goken @foxtrot

Sooooo...hypocrites...

"hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's behavior does not conform; pretense."

There's no way you guys believe that Sony wouldn't do this deal before Microsoft bought ActiBlizz. That's not how capitalistic/business industries think.

Vits220d ago (Edited 220d ago )

No, Sony is trying to establish a monopoly on anime streaming, manga, and light novel publication in the Western market while also becoming the largest company in this segment in Japan, replacing Kadokawa in the current triopoly (Kodansha, Hitotsubashi, and Kadokawa).

It’s a completely different ballpark from what Microsoft did. To put it into perspective, even if Microsoft had acquired Zenimax, ABK, EA, Tencent, Take-Two, and Embracer, it still wouldn’t come close to the level of control Sony would achieve in both the Western and Eastern anime/manga markets if they successfully make this purchase.

The closest comparison would be if Disney managed to swallow up both Comcast and Viacom, or if Microsoft had acquired both Sony PlayStation and Nintendo, establishing a monopoly in the console market. That is the level of control we are talking here.

Extermin8or3_219d ago

Except the FTC etc already ruled that anime isn't an industry in its own right. It's a sub genre of a much larger entertainment industry.

Vits219d ago

@Extermin8or3_

Exactly! That’s why this is such a massive problem. The only obstacle between Sony and a full-blown monopoly is how much cash they’re willing to throw around. They’re on track to dominate every anime streaming platform, corner the Western manga market, and seize control of light novel publications. On top of that, they’d cement their place in the tripoly that dictates the flow of source material.

And let’s not pretend Sony’s track record in this “non-industry” inspires confidence. They’ve gutted streaming catalogs, enforced censorship at every turn, and, naturally, hiked up prices for good measure. A monopoly like this is a recipe for disaster even more when a bunch of old-stupid americans don't even get that it is a industry, 3 industries at that.

mkis007220d ago

This is for anime...they have 1 developer people like. Sony for sure has a borderline anime monopoly if this goes through.

VersusDMC219d ago

And the dbz sparking zero developer to be fair.

glennhkboy219d ago

Not exactly.... In terms of Japanese anime, Kadokawa isn't the largest one. Others like Bandi Namco & Sunrise are bigger than Kadokawa. On the other hand, Kadokawa has a very big catalog of Japanese films, like Haven & Earth. Combine this with Sony Film from Hollywood, Sony may have enough films & TV shows (US & Japanese) to start its own steaming service.

Outside_ofthe_Box220d ago

Monopoly, no, as this is nowhere near the size of Bethesda + Activision, but games out of gamers hands, yes. They will mostly likely make their games exclusive when acquired. MS going multiplat ain't out of the kindness of their hearts, but of a necessity from a business perspective.

Also it's not that this is okay because MS did it. This is more of a consequence of allowing MS deal to go through. Should this deal go through? No it shouldn't, but MS literally just bought two publishers. It would be like complaining about Nintendo charging for online when MS and Sony have already been doing it already.

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CrashMania219d ago (Edited 219d ago )

'Or is this different?'

MS spending a whopping 75 billion to acquire dozens of studios and IPs compared to Sony potentially grabbing a handful for a fraction of that price, I'd say so yeah.

We all know what Phil wanted to do with those IPs, but it turns out spending that much money along with plummeting console sales, stagnant gamepass numbers didn't bode well for making everything in exclusive, so it's going the opposite way almost completely now.

porkChop219d ago

I'm not worried about the gaming side of things. But in terms of anime this isn't good. Sony bought out and merged Crunchyroll and Funimation, and they own a bunch of other anime studios. They already own so much of that industry it doesn't make any sense to allow them to swallow up even more.

mkis007219d ago

With how ms was able to purchase acti and bethesda, there is no prayer for this to be blocked. The precedent has been set. Also incoming Republican govt means even MS may be able to do more.

Extermin8or3_219d ago

Anime isn't considered it's own industry. Regulators already ruled awhile ago now that anime was merely a genre within the wider movie/TV series industry.

porkChop219d ago

@mkis

Even with ABK and Bethesda, MS is still a small fraction of the industry. The game industry is massive, no one is remotely close to having a monopoly. This is different. Sony literally bought both of the largest anime platforms and merged them together, on top of buying a bunch of separate anime studios. They'd have a very clear monopoly if they add Kadokawa on top of that. I'm not sure Kadokawa has any reason to sell, and I don't think it would get blocked if they did buy them out. I just don't think it's good for anime.

SoloZelot90219d ago

I think they're interested in kadokawa and are also interested in continuing the partnership that started with demons souls...that game that brought from software to fame.

anast219d ago

It's different. Hypocrisy is not a sin.

goken219d ago

To be a hypocrite is to give others the impression that we are holier than we actually are. It is the same as being false, or telling a lie. Jesus pronounced a curse on hypocrites seven times in Mt. 23:13-29.

gold_drake219d ago

i think the big difference, imo, is that Activision was just soo massive of a publisher/dev team. they had alot of really good, really big franchises that would have absolutely changed the gaming space if they would have stayed exclusive to MS.

i looked into Kadokawas franchises, and while they have good stuff, its not comparable to actlivision in the slightest.

aquistions only suck if people are being layed off in the masses. and thats what happened with Activision unfortunatly. well see what happens with this one.

Lionsguard219d ago

This is why we the MS acquisitions were frowned upon on the first place because it just starts this tit for tat buying war that benefits no one.

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