PS3 Remains Unhackable Yet Again, Who's Next? Yet Again

TQcast: Ok, so most of you might have heard that there has been some development in hacking the PS3. Videos have been uploaded on the net, supposedly proving that the PS3 is now fully hackable using a chip and a USB dongle. But why oh why did they make the mistake of using a debug PS3 system?

[red2tango]

i'd rather get news from actual coders instead of a random site

for updated news: http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-...

[pwnzter]

lol. I have a modded xbox 360. It's a pain downloading 6-7gb games.

Imagine how long it would take downloading ps3 games on a 3-7mbs internet connection.

Besides, I'd never do any sort of modding/hacking on my sexy ps3. Also because Sony's developers keep giving us AAA quality exclusive after exclusive. Can't say the same about the competition :p.

[rajman]

Dude Japan will be loving this...average home connections over there is 100MB, they will be downloading games like crazy soon =(
I can download 8GB of data in about 4 hours...you must have a slow connection

[SOAD]

Since most PS3 multiplats are of the same size (6 to 7 gigs), then it won't matter to those who want to mod their PS3s.

This is really stupid, though. Sony hasn't really screwed over gamers this gen so why would anyone do this?

Not that you should mod your 360s, either. Just don't buy a 360 if you think MS is screwing you over. You're really hurting third party devs and publishers the most.

[zeeshan]

I am sure Sony will hit these guys with different lawsuits so hard, they won't see it coming. If that's not enough, SONY is gona release a patch and probably render this dongle device useless.

As for the people who want to hack PS3 and download pirated copies, it is wayyyyy to early to start singing songs you lame ass hackers!

Thirdly, suppose that whatever I said above doesn't happen. Sony doesn't find a way around this problem, these companies win legal battle and PS3 hacking becomes as common as 360 hacking then I think it won't really matter THAT much. What it will do is skyrocket PS3 hardware sales even more (Especially in third world countries or middle east region) but it will have a negative impact on software sales.

However, lets not forget that 360 and Wii both have been hacked for a long time yet they still make profit on software sales. Who is to say Sony wouldn't do the same?

[White-Sharingan]

@rajman- I don't think Japan really cares much for piracy, considering that's the only place where PSP games really do sell. If it weren't for Japan, I doubt third party devs like Square and Konami would be making PSP games. Where piracy is greatly loved is here in the west, even if it hurts developers and the company who made the console/handheld.

[shoddy]

1. can't FW update wich can't use FREE online service.

2. it shorten your ps3 life span.

3. DL 10gb is no fun, after DL yoiu need to check if it work or a virus. It'll take like a week for the right torrent. good luck updating patches.

I think that's enough reason.

it always hackable just the important thing is how long it can last.(geohot)

[ZombieAutopsy]

White-Sharingan nailed it.

[morganfell]

Like this:

http://www.wired.com/threat...

[lelo2play]

@pwnzter

"lol. I have a modded xbox 360"
"I'd never do any sort of modding/hacking on my sexy ps3"

So one console you don't mind modding but another you do. You don't mind giving your money to Sony but you do mind giving it to Microsoft.
YOU ARE A ***** AND SHOULD BE IN JAIL. How the hell do you have so many bubbles in N4G.

[n4gno]

Don't cry lelo, without that kind of guy, xbox would have been already dead : hacked firmware for xbox = a lot of console sold = more games sold.

even if people download some games, they can't buy all the game they download, so nobody is loosing money.

[MorganX]

Wow. People hack/mod machines because the manufacturer screws you over??? WTF? and MS does and Sony doesn't?

Good Lord. And as for being unhackable, there's a reason "install other OS" was removed.

@n4gno
Your logic makes no sense. Modded Xboxes are permanently banned for XBL.

[dabri5]

It's not the downloading games that will become prevalent. It's the renting/borrowing games and copying them that will. This is how it was with the original xbox when it was modded. No one minds just popping the disk in the system and copying the game.

In response to the article, Sony releases firm ware updates for the PSP all the time. That hasn't stopped the hacked community at all. Because the hack is software updatable, just like with the PSP, there will be a workaround hack a day or two after the update is released.

[Hideo_Kojima]

This is no longer the 6th gen...

in this Generation of gaming online gaming is a huge part of why we play.

Any mod will be rendered useless once the next update comes out and if you have used a chip it will be even easier to identify and ban your console from conecting to PSN....

Personally I wouldn't buy a second PS3 and a mod chip just to play offline games that sometimes take days to download.

[frostypants]

So, your rationalization for stealing 360 games is that they aren't high enough quality for you? Do you realize how ignorant that sounds? You're no better than a shoplifter.

And yet you have all those "agrees". This is sad. People like you are *partially* why games cost so much today. And regardless, theft is theft.

Do you people think it would be cool to walk into a Gamestop and steal a game off the shelf? It's the same thing.

[altimako02]

you say you wouldnt mod a ps3 because it sexy, maybe if people like you wouldnt mod your 360 then maybe some of the developers would try to push the 360s limits and you would get what you call aaa exclusives. people like you are so stupid you dont even realize your stupidity.

[nveenio]

I will always support Sony. They've honestly won my loyalty this generation. I have no problem buying any game I want.

[freshPiMP91]

I usually read the comments just ot lauhg at the fanboys but this thread has literally made my mouth drop. The amount of fanboyism, from both side, is unbelievable.

SONY/ MICROSOFT DONT GIVE 7 SHITS ABOUT YOU, ITS ABOUT MONEY. THATS IT. THATS IT.

You all act like theyre REALLY in competition to the death...then why the hell did my sony vaio come with windows vista on it? get real.

Hacking sucks, I hate it personally because its made my powerful pc play only console ports, but COME ONE PEOPLE. THe way you all defend these companies is like theyre sending you money in the mail...just stop. STOP. its too childish

[Aquanox]

That the...

There are multiple videos showing retail Playstation 3s not debug units. Man PS guys are so desperate to prove the hack is false that take anything that remotely explains how it could be fake as granted.

Edit: Check the comments in the original article. Everyone is jumping at the guys poor reasoning and research @ stating this hack is fake.

[Viddharto]

What about me? I have a 0.98 Mbit connection. So, you can be happy with what you have :D

[zag]

Actually this will be the main reason why game shops won't exist soon, everything will needed to be downloaded via offical channels can't do that they you don't have the game.

Signed files will be the next thing once downloading only comes in.

I can't see this dongle working after a month or so, as sony will end up doing a new update which will have a signed PS3 rev #, so if your PS3 isn't signed off then you won't get online play sony has blocked all online play bar for the newest PS3 update.

also it can't copy a file over that is over 4 gig, a game dev could just dump in a 12gig or larger file and still be ok as they could just use a 100gig bluray.

Sony and the game devs will pretty much make it pointless then what happens when the game require a must be installed official update that they release on game disks and quitting that install quits you back to the menu.

This has been released in Australia as a court case against a mod shop down the road from me in fact I'm thinking of asking them about this modcip release and seeing what they say about all this.

was the actual shop MS or sony sued and they ended up winning as the court ruled that PS1 and XBox mods can be sold as they as they aren't sold with a machine, as by themselves they can't do anything.

[red2tango]

I WAS RIGHT!

http://www.ps3news.com/PS3-...

lol @ disagreeing with facts

[red2tango]

Confirmed working on Slim and Fat PS3s

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[FACTUAL evidence]

These hackers seriously need some friends, and i'm not talking about psn or xbl buddies....

[iPlayGamez]

coming from a guy with 853 comment and 1 bubble. so you spend all day trolling online video game articles and you tell others to get a life? maybe you need some friends even psn/xbl friends could do you good

[sixaxis]

well it would be nice to download free games but sony can just release FW update

[jay2]

I say hacking PS3 is not wise.
1. can't FW update wich can't use FREE online service.

They say you can update and this blocks the update checker, and you could also remove the dongel (which is also going to be updated just like the PSP's CFW :(.

2. it shorten your ps3 life span.

How?

3. DL 10gb is no fun, after DL yoiu need to check if it work or a virus. It'll take like a week for the right torrent. good luck updating patches.

You don't download them, you buy/rent and rip them to a hard drive.

I think that's enough reason.

it always hackable just the important thing is how long it can last.(geohot)

It's say that it's happened and we all know hackers just won't go online for an updated FW, even if Sony can bring one out. This is something I'd never consider doing my self.

[xJxdOggyStYLe]

are sony fanyboys so butt hurt by this news lol? like its taking money outta your pocket? im gonna mod mine...if i cant get online with it..i could careless....psn is a total noob online service...takes me 20 mins to download small demos that i download on xbox live in 2 mins...meh only reason i have a ps3 was for ..well so far 2 games that i enjoyed...mgs4 and god of war 3...so downloadable ps3 exclusives here i come :)

[Jazz4108]

Dude if I felt it was moral I would totaly agree with you. I do agree with you on everything else about the ps3's lack of decnt games and crappy online and molasses slow downloads, but I dont agree with breaking the law. What most people will do is have a second ps3 to mod and one to play normal on. With the money they can make selling games it will pay for itself quickly. Most people view me as a 360 fanboy as I raley say anything nice about the ps3 but you must undertand I work for a gaming store and own both systems and gave them both there equal shots. Its not that I like MS more then Sony its just there online is superior as well as 90% of the multiplats and there downloads are so quick you dont even have a second to blink. The ps3 on the other hand has free online but thats about what its worth, and painfully slow installs to almost all of its games and graphic wise its not that much better then the 360 as the guys that made the graphics chip both say they are almost equal. I believe that Sony utilizes the tech better then Ms devs so you have seen some graphicaly good games but it suffers from alot of framrate issues as having split memory is a decision im sure Sony will never do again.

[tatotiburon]

bubububu but it's fake hahaha lol

another video

http://www.dailymotion.com/...

playing uncharted 2 without issues

[Scenarist]

lol at teh slow internets,,.,

pending i get a strong torrent.,.. i got a solid 3MB's/s
thats 10GIGS in an hour

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replied in the wrong spot

[aceofspades]

these hackers are really getting on my nerves, sony, release the hounds on these losers.

[MexicanAppleThief]

Agreed. Pirates are killing the PC, NDS gaming market. This hack won't matter too much anyway, we're due a firmware update and this hardly seems challenging to the PS3 devs.

[Skizelli]

"Pirates are killing the PC"

If that was really the case, how do you explain StarCraft 2's success? Piracy has been happening on the PC for decades, and yet StarCraft 2 still outsold ALL PC software, which further proves my point that if you make a good game, people will buy it. Even if it doesn't have LAN support. :P You can't even play the pirated release on Battle.net. But even if you could, I doubt it would have made a difference, as many of those sales were from pre-orders. Pirates aren't killing anything, the developers are just looking for a way to make a profit, and they found it in this DLC/digital download craze. Long before that even took off, PC gamers were playing professional quality mods, expansions and other additional content, both official and user-generated, for free. Not so anymore. Now we're slapped with $15 map packs and this used game fiasco. So who exactly are the greedy ones?

[Da One]

made by the good folks at Blizzard...

You cannot use one single solitary game to debunk entire argument that piracy is killing pc gaming....nds and psp(who got it worse than anybody else)

[Skizelli]

I can and I did, because it's true. But if you want more examples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

People have this misconception that piracy hurts developers when it really doesn't. If that were true, the gaming industry wouldn't be thriving. A penny lost isn't necessarily a penny earned otherwise. People pirate for various reasons. If anything, piracy helps promote their games. Whether piracy is right or wrong, that's not the point I'm trying to make. StarCraft was hugely successful because it's a good game. You said it yourself. If a game is worth buying, people will buy it. Period. Piracy can't touch that. Most companies treat honest consumers like criminals. They don't care about you, they just want your money. There's exceptions to the rule, though, like Ironclad Games, who released Sins of a Solar Empire without any copy protection, trusting that people would buy their game because they believed it was good enough.

And how is it hurting NDS and PSP exactly? They're both doing well. You do realize that piracy has existed on past handheld systems, right? Ever heard of a flash cart? Not to mention that Nintendo is super anal about piracy. You won't see any Nintendo ROMs on any respectable torrent site in fear of Nintendo's wrath.

[Elven6]

The sales lost to piracy are attempted to be recouped on other platforms or through legitimate sales. 1.5 million people may have bought StarCraft II, but how many pirated it? Just because a game sold more than it was pirated doesn't give it an automatic pass to show piracy is overblown on a system.

And how about games like Demigod which reviewed pretty well, had no DRM, and was pirated like no tomorrow? The day after launch only 18, 000 people bought the game and over 120,000 people were playing it online, how does that happen?

http://www.gamebanshee.com/...

Companies like EA, Valve and Blizzard can take the piracy hit, but what about companies like Stardock, Paradox, etc?

You say piracy isn't hurting systems like the PSP, but when is the last time you saw a PSP game in the top 10 or even 20 NPD/European Chart Get?

[Da One]

Very few PC games are doing well, only companies with extremely huge cult-like followings (Blizzard, Valve, Sims[EA]) are doing well on the PC.

1.5 million in one day can not offset the millions of games illegally pirated on the PC, same for the PSP and NDS. Companies need to push more games than that(which i'm sure Blizz has)

Dissidia 1.8 sold. 1.8 million sold does not offset the 10's of millions of psp games that have been downloaded since piracy's inception on to the system. Is it a success maybe, but the 5 million people who downloaded it illegally kind of makes piracy hard to ignore what should have been.

Piracy has hurt the video games industry otherwise, there wouldn't be DRM, devs trying to stop it at every turn, and Publishers abandoning systems(PSP). There is no misconception on the issue you're just delusional.

[Jazz4108]

Has it all ready been a week? lol im just kidding.

[Skizelli]

"And how about games like Demigod which reviewed pretty well, had no DRM, and was pirated like no tomorrow? The day after launch only 18, 000 people bought the game and over 120,000 people were playing it online, how does that happen?"

Perhaps that's because it lacked advertising? I'm not even familiar with it, and I'm a video game whore. Can't blame piracy just because a game doesn't sell well. There's plenty of other factors involved.

"You say piracy isn't hurting systems like the PSP, but when is the last time you saw a PSP game in the top 10 or even 20 NPD/European Chart Get?"

How often do handheld games make it in the top 10 or 20 of anything? Again, other factors involved.

"Skizelli wants to hit the disagree button and pretend he doesn't understand"

Kind of like you? No need.

"Very few PC games are doing well, only companies with extremely huge cult-like followings (Blizzard, Valve, Sims[EA]) are doing well on the PC."

That's because the majority of games being released on PC right now are complete and utter garbage. The other games you mentioned only prove my point even futher: If it's worth buying, people will buy it. Why is it so difficult to understand that?

"1.5 million in one day can not offset the millions of games illegally pirated on the PC, same for the PSP and NDS. Companies need to push more games than that(which i'm sure Blizz has)"

It doesn't have to when you consider the fact that many of those downloads were from people who have no intention or capability of buying the game in the first place. So technically it's not a loss to begin with. Does it make it right? That's another debate. My point here is that people who are completely against piracy usually don't understand it inside and out. You generalize it as stealing, and it is. But it also gives people the opportunity to try new games with the intent of buying them if it's worth buying. It also gives smaller devs more exposure. It's basically free advertising. The real criminals are the ones who sell pirated software.

"Dissidia 1.8 sold. 1.8 million sold does not offset the 10's of millions of psp games that have been downloaded since piracy's inception on to the system. Is it a success maybe, but the 5 million people who downloaded it illegally kind of makes piracy hard to ignore what should have been."

Again, there's no guarantee that those 10 million had any intention of buying the game in the first place. The "what should have been" is wishful thinking and a sense of self-entitlement. The fact of the matter is very few games are worth $60. Piracy has been going on for so long, and yet developers like Blizzard and Valve have thrived. How do you explain that? Oh wait, you already did -- which again is the point I've been trying to make here -- they make good games. Good games sell. Piracy is going to happen regardless, but it doesn't hinder the success of a popular franchise, as games like SC2 and MW2 have proven.

[Elven6]

Skizelli: Demigod was actually pretty anticipated by many people, especially by the DOTA community. It was actually advertised pretty well.

Just recently, Dragon Quest XI or what ever the latest one is on DS placed in the Top 10, Lego Harry Potter DS did as well. A few years after launch there were PSP games charting too, not so much now asides from Japan.

[Skizelli]

@Elven6: I'm not denying that it was an anticipated game, I'm just saying I never saw anything about it, and I'm a RPG and RTS fan. It must have been one of those games that fell through the cracks for people like me. As for its review scores, they range anywhere between 50% and 92% with a 76% overall on Metacritic. That could explain why it didn't sell too well.

And regarding game sales for handhelds, I never said they don't make the charts, but it's not often in the West.

A couple of corrections for my previous statement: "further," "but it doesn't hinder the success of a popular franchise, like StarCraft or Modern Warfare." (Sorry, I'm anal.)

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

But is not Hacked via Hardware like Wii or Xbox 360, that is the way Geohot was trying to do on PS3.

I mean, Hacking the PS3 on Hardware, is way harder.

This USB with the software, is different method and I believe can be patched or something to prevent, because is Software.

[shoddy]

hardware hack last longer.

Look at satalite tv hack, pay $500 for just 2 month then got zap then update then zap again. damn annoying.

[sikbeta]

WOW! so this is Lame then, if teh hackz is by Software, it'll last only like a week before Sony come out with FW 3.50 disabling this lame hackz, lol what a waste of freaking time...

[WetN00dle69]

Yeah but then again because its software they can also update to by pass said patches. It will be a constant struggle.

[wsoutlaw87]

I just hope it doesnt slow down any new features they were planning to bring in future firmware updates because they're focusing on this first

[Petro]

More agrees from here. Hackers stop killing gaming! I just wish Sony can find easy way to get rid of this hack.

[Viddharto]

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!

[LordMarius]

Thats good to hear but if it has been hack I hope Sony patches this loophole soon. Death to Pirates.

Edit: I dont care if they remove another feature for a good cause, the less money Sony looses the more money Naughty Dog has for Uncharted 3

[Sunny_D]

Careful what you wish for. Sony might remove another feature. -_-

[mushroomwig]

To be fair, Sony can hardly remove the USB functionality of the PS3.

[rdgneoz3]

Could they just remove the systems ability to be a debug PS3 through a patch? Won't hurt customers at all, they'll just have to work out something for real developers.

[sikbeta]

Hmmm... obviously they can't remove the USB, the more important reason of why is because all of us use the usb ports to charge the DS3s batteries, but Sony is smart and will apply the Firmware hammer to kill every lame attempt at hackz...

[karl]

i was wondering how the hell would we charge our controllers without usb ports

haha thats why i doubt they will take it that far...

[ikkeweer]

how could anyone connect their ps-eye?
So no, they could never remove the usb ports

[TheTeam06]

It's still a pain to have to do everything you have to do in order to successfully steal from the poor (developers) and give to the poorer (us). We're trying to save money and the devs are trying to keep their heads above water. To be honest, I think we're both killing each other with the price of games and the piracy issues.

We can go broke trying to feed our gaming hobby or save money by not paying the people who make our favorite games..... in fact, you're saving so much money, that you won't ever have to spend money on games again... considering developers won't have enough of it to entertain you.

:(

[red2tango]

You make a very good point. I remember PS2 games dropped in price a year or 2 later. Some games in Canada went up in price to 69.99 There are some games I regret purchasing but I'm glad I bought Uncharted 2 and supported the best PS3 devs on the planet!

[jerethdagryphon]

even if it was real i wouldnt do it why not cause i dont have the cash, but i will not support anything that leads to piracy, sonys devs are good they earned there money, and regardless what people say , thats all this backup tool is for, rent and rip.... its a sad immoral world

[electricshadow]

Message to all hackers, go die in a hole. Pay money for your games and support the developers that work hard on them.

[altimako02]

Most of the people saying "go buy the games" are children who their parents buy their games for them.

[-SIXAXIS-]

That's probably true, but if you have a decent job with some kind of steady income, you should be able to purchase a couple of games for yourself.

[MRMagoo123]

I bet the ppl supporting the hacks and saying things like altimak are no life trash that couldnt afford any games so they steal.

[ThePlaystationFour]

No thanks, I'll support the developers by purchasing the games... So I can get a sequel in return.

[wissam]

I live in place where piracy is legal.but I swear as long as I find an original ps3 disk I would bought it and keep this crap off my ps3.
well said theplaystaionfour.

[tiamat5]

I don't get all the tech talk. Is this really a viable way to hack the PS3? Is it true you have no access to the PSN? If so that would mean you could ever buy PSN games or get firmware updates or even get patches to fix glitchs or even play multiplayer games or play games like Demon Souls. Maybe some people don't care but it sounds like a pain to me.

[karl]

u dont realize that the hole ps2 generation was like that
although onine wasnt as important then as it is now...

[Tee7soo]

Im very happy that the ps3 is now hacked and im definitely going to mod my ps3
Free games FTW ..

[Snakefist30]

Go To Hell.

[evrfighter]

you said it play2

I can care less about psn banning me. My wallet is singing praises. I get the best of all worlds. Online gaming on my pc (and yes my pc games are bought and paid for) and free ps3 games. MUAHAHAH

[insomnium]

It's a totally different matter to be glad something happens when it's justified. Good or bad. But to think you are rejoicing this where it potentially only benefits your own greedy self while hurting every single other party involved in this is just despicable.

Sony will put a cap of 4GB on files or something like that and that while protecting everyone against piracy will hurt all the legit users (and this time the hurt is a LOT bigger than on other OS). Same as always. All it takes is a few rotten apples and everyone else get the short end of the stick. All because of lying and greed.

I would really want to be there when something bad happens to these jokers in real life. If only to say "see, this is what it feels like". Everything is all fine and dandy until something bad happens to YOU personally. Are people really this blind?

[socomnick]

Sony fanboys truly have reached a news level of stupidity now. Seriously why do you care if people want to mod the ps3 and get free games let them its none of your business. Side with the gamers not the greedy corporations.

[MRMagoo123]

I suspect play2man and evrfighter will have to get there mums to buy them a ps3 now so they can get free games all they have to do is convince there mum and dad to buy a lil less crack each week to save up for it.

[xWaaavy-]

u must have no life.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I prefer Free Online Gaming FTW.

Because if you stay in that Firmware, say goodbye to the PSN and Multiplayer.

[Michael-Jackson]

I hope your PS3 somehow bricks!

I'm not going to support this shit, more sequels and better games ftw.

[Ashriel]

Enough with the denial, the jailbreak works, period.

Let's hope PS3's software sales remain strong, it's up to you, guys.

[Studio-YaMi]

thank you

[iPlayGamez]

why are u saying ashriel is trolling. is it because you actually believed the hack is fake? i just want to know whats with all his diagrees

[dragon82]

I will continue to purchase my games just like I do for every other system I own. This includes PC.

I don't understand the way people think these days. Getting games for free is the exact same as stealing. I don't care how you try to justify it to yourself it is stealing. You people think you are entitled to things for free that the rest of us hard working people pay for. Just think about if you were the devs who spent a year or more of your life working on a game just to have it fail in sales because of pirates. How would that make you feel? Or better yet how would that make your family feel after you spent so much time away from them to make the game??

[ndibu]

Truly a sad site...get it? Site? Ha ha ha...what? Its funny

[blasian]

Cant wait to see sony lay down the law and crush some pirate's spirits.

[monet man]

my 500gb ps3 is waiting to get hacked so it can join my modded 360 slim and wii i love free games .........

[Sarevok]

You need to read silly little man...
It does not let you download free games.

[rdgneoz3]

Reading is hard for some people.

[Solotov]

lolz

[cky4987]

why do so many people think you have to download the games? This mod doesn't allow you to download a game, put it on a hard drive, and play it. All it does is lets you rip a game to an internal or external drive, and play it from that. People aren't gonna be downloading the games. Watch as Ps3 game rentals skyrocket.

[ndibu]

Game rentals are gonna go through the roof...and then die down...and then go thru the roof again...and then die down...and you get the picture.
Anyone else expecting a sharp incline in rental prices?

[CaJuaLFeatPuFF]

Put a firmware update requirment for newer games. like in the psp.

hahahaha

[cky4987]

good idea. except the dongle can block those updates, and the dongle itself is upgradable.

[goalweiser]

LoL. This doesn't stop Sony from block USB drives on your consoles and then if your console has any type of changed firmware online, banning your PS3's serial number from ever connecting to online again.

This is a digital world. If you think these guys can make it undetectable that you're hacking, you're very naive.

Microsoft has been doing it for a long time now. Sony won't have a problem turning on the banhammer too. Use your brains...this USB thumb drive fools the system into becoming a debug system. You don't think they can't send something in firmware to temporarily disable the USB drives and then proceed to block said hacks.

All they have to do is buy one of these USB devices, study it, and cook up a fix. Game over for hackers.

[iPlayGamez]

if you take a look at the psp the hackers have got sony beat. every update sony make a custom fw come out a few days later that give them all the features and online. people play online with hacked psp's all the time you may think its simple to stop but you are very wrong.

[DigitalAnalog]

The glory to be revered like *Dark Alex*.

*Sigh.. they should really stop playing table-top games.

-End statement

[Trroy]

Hoo boy, are some people gonna be upset when they send their money away to "buy" one of these babies.

[Silly gameAr]

Why has Sony been so quiet on this? If the jailbreak is as good as people say, wouldn't they be all over this?

[ndibu]

They already struggled to light up the charts before this, now imagine how much more difficult it will be when you factor in piracy.

[TheMART]

LMAO

Listen, if you don't understand how something is working then don't say 'PS3 Remains Unhackable Yet Again'. Its also funny to see PS3 fans cry, also over the past few days that 'its never possible, PS3 is a fortress, bla bla bla'.

This dongle turns EVERY PS3 in a debug system. Fat, Slim, all of them. So yeah, it starts to run like a debug system.

Really. PS3 is hacked. Once now with this dongle and the second hack on BluRay drive firmware is made as we speak by C4E/TeamJungle&TeamHades.

Believe.

[Adva]

Oh look, a troll. How usual.

[niceguyWii3]

wow, no one is crying hear, fact is if this is true it took almsost 4 years to do it while the 360 was hacked hours after it went on sale. Sounds like the ps3 is quite the "fortress". And honestly piracy will not be as bad on ps3 as it is on 360. I say stop being a cheap ass and go buy the game you want, want it a lil cheaper go buy it used. Is 59 bucks really that much to you? If so you need to find a cheaper hobby.

[goalweiser]

If I released a game, I'd make sure I give out free DLC to any gamer who reported links or sites where my games are being leaked. Perhaps I would go so far as to bring them into the studio and give them a tour expense free on their part. I'd reward them like crazy so I could find every leak possible and shut them down.

That said, rest assured, modders will eventually be banned from PSN because if they're stupid enough to pirate games, they're stupid enough to get caught. There's even more extreme measures Sony could take to prevent these people from getting what they want. Imagine buying a console at your local retailer and having your personal information registered into a system before you could even activate / use the console. There's no getting around that.

They could require your console to verify itself every month online and if you didn't have online access, you would have to call a phone number to activate each game you buy.

Bottom line, there's so many games to play and so many ways to get them legally...who the Hell has time to play so many games they need to pirate them. Talk about losers.

[MrLife]

LOL I'm reading the comments while drinking Mountain Dew and eating some Doritos, and I must say you PS3 fanboys are pretty entertaining.

[goalweiser]

This has nothing to do with fanboys. It has to do with protecting intellectual properties. Gaming doesn't have to exist. These companies could stop making games and all these people could go work with software companies if they really desired.

Doesn't matter if you own a PSP, Xbox 360, Wii, or Dreamcast...piracy is an enemy to creativity.

[MrLife]

I know and I understand.
But I find it funny how the fanboys just deny the fact that the PS3 has been hacked.

[goalweiser]

The console has been hacked several times before. It would not be entirely true to say it hasn't. That said, I don't think it will stay that way. To me...these are really workarounds until Sony can't actually stop it.

[Thecraft1989]

I can't believe dedicated fan boys are on here I myself am known for liking ps3/pc but can't stand there and lie to my self the ps3 has been hacked there's loads of proof.

theirs also many misinformed people thinking that you need download the blu rays At this moment in time you can not rip a blu ray to external drive from PC and can not rip iso to the drive all you can do is rip to ps3's hard drive or an external hard drive and has to be done on ps3 so you are limted to rented or borrowing of friends

[theEx1Le]

But even thats bad enough. I mean I can't believe the rampant use of the Disagree button in this thread. 1st off, this is a hack, that lets you play Ripped games from an external drive so when people say the ps3 isn't hacked then they are only kidding themselves.

[Dogswithguns]

Get a life instead of hacking everything.

[infekt]

Exactly. Phuck pirates. You guys are POSs.

[NexGen76]

To be honest i really don't care because game sales not going to put any money into gamers pockets....This device is real people & its going to take more than a FW update to patch from Sony if what was explained is true.....Also the dongle his updatability.

[Silly gameAr]

Well, on the bright side, this can only make the PS3 more popular. Doesn't really affect me personally because I'm still going to support the devs who deserve support, and I hope other people will too.

[theEx1Le]

"Below (under PS3 Dev Notes) is some more tech info from his findings for those curious, however, please note the PSJailBreak patch above is only for PlayStation 3 Debug users. At this time it would probably be wise NOT to waste your money on this expensive PSJailBreak USB device, as a FREE PS3 scene solution is bound to surface."
From ps3 news, You gotta love the fact they wanna pirate something used to pirate

[Thecraft1989]

This bull dose this look like slim dev unit http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I can't belive theres people in this world dumb enough to think this all one big fake.

[CaJuaLFeatPuFF]

Yeah they wont show actual gameplay only the intro and all that shit

its fake

[xAlmostPro]

yes it is REAL but its not going to allow piracy! the only method of backing up with this device is frm disc, so its hardly going to be 'bad' at the most its gonna be like game sharing on a lower scale(because you would need to go round to a friends and copy his discs, and even at that this is not confirmed to work)

[Thecraft1989]

Yes it is the usb gives you the ability of a dev ps3 meaning the ps3 emulate ps3 games so they don't need to keep burning blu rays each time when testing a game.

[ReBurn]

If this is a hoax it is a pretty elaborate one.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

idiots

this chip turns ur ps3 into a debug console until u remove the usb

fucking idiot author
its confirmed hacked

[bomboclaat_gamer]

time to get a ps3

all i want is one original game disc in the ps3

and i can play all the games i want
time to stock up on about 2 1tb hard drives :D

TIME TO GET A PS3

the rest of you guys who dont like this can keep buying games to keep the industry alive

we have faith in u lololololololol

[Thecraft1989]

why not just get 2.5tb external hdd cheper than 1x2tb and more space ?

[Sarevok]

People like you need to be shot.-execution style-
I hate thieves.

[MRMagoo123]

i wouldnt worry he wont beable to afford a ps3 anyway his pimp takes all his trick money off him.

[SkolarVisari]

I would get this just to put all the ps3 games I own or at least my most played ones onto my HDD so I wouldn't have to get up to get the discs from my TV stand now that I have moved my PS3 to my computer desk, since I got a new monitor with HDMI input, that is better than my television. I have Gamefly so I don't need to bother with pirating or renting and ripping since I can keep any game as long as I feel like anyway and if I like it enough the price will be around 45USD or less. Buying games is not a pita with a service like this so I have no reason to pirate.

What is the lesson here? Stop worrying about jailbreaks, let people install the game to the HDD and take this discs out, provide good rental services, and stop issuing "security updates" that remove features that pose no danger to customers and you will do just fine, even if there are people who will pirate.

When was the last time you heard of a cellphone carrier imploding because a phone was hacked? When was the last time you heard of a phone's app store failing because the phone was hacked?

[Slient Knight 9]

Couldn't sony just do what nintendo did with the R4 cards, to prevent this becoming a big problem?

[Zinc]

Are you joking? They could only make it illegal in like one country, for retailers to sell... Not only that, but there are all kinds of other brands and models out there. I didn't even know how many choices there were until I went to that Oz site to check out the guys business. That lawsuit was a hollow victory.

[red2tango]

It's a PS3jig USB which is used by Sony technicians to fix broken consoles. Turns retail into debug.

[SuperStrokey1123]

If you guys think sony will even consider letting this happen with out taking action you are bonkers. They removed a whole feature which took them into legal limbo just to stop future paths of piracy. My guess is we will see LOTS of banned consoles and lots of firmwares designed to do nothing other than stop this from happening. MS will have nothing on Sony for their attempts to stop piracy.

Piracy is going to push consoles into a place where we dont want them to go. You think the online pass from EA is bad? well just wait and see whats coming next. This is going to hurt consumers in the long run, not help them.

[Amiroo]

If they remove USB or other features things get messy with sony and another court even deadlier

[cky4987]

I'm Sure sony will try to do something. The question is will they be able to? Look what's happened with the psp. Sure they've done things in the past to stop it, but a couple weeks later somebody comes out with a workaround for it. It will just be a never ending battle of firmware updates and fixes. As far as them banning you from online, Microsoft bans your console not just your gamertag or ip. How do we know Sony can do the same thing? Or what if people make workarounds for that? People with modded psp's still play online, and I have never heard of anyone getting banned from it before. I'm sure that Sony is gonna take this seriously. I just think that now the door has been opened its gonna be hard to close.

[maverick1191]

question is how do you detect your using the dongle?

imo i dont know how sony will stop this a simple firmware wont do it i think as the dongle is upgradeable

i like the idea of copying games to HDD but not this way

although im against piracy but look at the psp thats hacked and it sold over 100 million psp's im not saying it will be a good thing if people start to use it but it will give sony a massive sales boost

[RustInPeace]

I personally just don't like modern day hackers/pirates and the people who sing their praises. All they ever do is look for a way to cut out the middleman (Sony or MS & the devs) to further their own purpose. All I ever read is about some new game that's been leaked and is now being pirated. How about helping the company that JUST put out what you want and buy it? Can't afford it? Well then get a job. The ONLY reason I would support/understand someone pirating something is because it is not made anymore, or rightsholders have/will not release whatever the content you're looking for. I have a bunch of MST3K I got WAY before they started putting them out on DVD...

[Solotov]

WOW, if this is true, then all one has to do is rent a game and dump it on the HD. Of course, some games are 50gigs, so that HD will quickly start to fill up. A lot of people will start buying the 1 Terabyte 2.5 inch HD to upgrade their PS3s.

Works on the Slim too:
Sucks that you have to plug-in the console everytime, unlike the PS3 that has a power switch.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Tres21]

some ppl r so stupid, why would it be good 4 either console 2 get hacked? ur using this hate 4 another brand blind u...a hacked console was most likely still a sold console...the ppl who suffer more than MS & Sony & Tendo r the Devs by havin there games Stolen which is what happens yes the systems sold # for the games go down but the Devs lose a complete sale, which gets them thinkin about dumb ways 2 stop it instead of makin there games...specially if its already a multi-plat game & there r sum good ones out there.

& from what i read why is everyone talkin about D/L speeds so far they say u need the disc its not set up 2 D/L the games & transfer 2 the PS3

[N4OGs]

All these vids seem to be hiding something as they are all short. If the ps3 is hacked why arent there 8 minute in depth videos with them playing the actual game. All I see is 4 minute vids of them playing the intro screen of games. You never see the ps3 and the tv at the same time. Theres always so many different cords around there television. If this was legit the would be trying to do a better job convincing me.

I havent seen one person get past the title screen and play a actual game. I dont need the camera zoomed in on the tv. I want to see the ps3 the whole time.

[maverick1191]

very true ive yet to see a vid that shows gameplay after the backup and also if the dongle needs to stay in the usb slot or not as basically your game is copied over so why need the dongle whilst playing the backup game?

or am i missing something?

[cky4987]

http://dai.ly/cx3XzI

I really don't see the need for more proof. There have now been multiple videos from multiple sources. All with the same dongle. Do you really think alllllll of these people including mod stores would do all of this just to pull a prank or hoax? If your still not convinced this is real, take off the tinfoil hat, and wait until the end of the month when then ship out. Then you will see "thousands of dudes" playing "hacked" games on it. :)

[3monthsp]

Ha ha , Damage Control article.

FUD Up some more, while the pirates play some PoS3 games.

[Ps3isSsTheBeStt]

People with xbox 360 buy games then they install it on there consoles then give the disc to their friends. its legal

[sam2236]

Your troll-fu is weak, child. You have much to learn.

[sam2236]

Call me when it allows me to play my PS2 games on my PS3. Honestly, I don't give a shit about back ups or whatever. I'll use this thing once it lets me put SotC into the console and play the game.

[sinender]

The new standard internet for japanese people would be 100gbps internet, fkin car LAZY!

[Subzero200x]

"Message to all hackers, go die in a hole. Pay money for your games and support the developers that work hard on them."

message to idiots like you go waste you hard earned money on trash...oh and the ps3 is hacked i've seen it.

[djd]

Even if you have a 500 gig or above hard drive,fat 32 file system limits you to 4 gig files most games are 8-9 gigs some even bigger which will require you to buy a external drive increasing the cost and the jailbreak thing is expensive
PS Sony will patch it.

[maverick1191]

whats hard for sony is that even if they patch it, the dongle is upgradeable so they can just update it to work with the new firmware

i dont see how sony can stop this tbh i will be impressed if they did this and relieved also

[mbmanhattan]

LOL
PS3 owner always talking about what is coming out and around the conner.

Name one good game you have coming out now till the end of this year! Xbox will have REACH and FABLE 3 in 60 days while you talk about 2011! Don't sleep on Fable! Fable 2 sold more copies then your precious God of War3 and Uncharted 2. Don't get me started on how you have the shit ver of every port this gen!!!

Go to digital foundry and see for yourself. Bioshock, Dead Space, Mafia 2, Kane and Lynch 2, GTA 4, Bayonetta, Red Dead, Bad Comapny 2, And even Modern Warfare all played better on 360!

Dead Space was the lead platform was ps3 and it dibs in the low 20 fps while the 360 held onto 30 fps. Mafia 2 18fps in combat. with no grass no hd lighting and less blood REALLY Ps3 Really?!?!

How do you stand behind such a shit system? Yes uncharted 2 was pretty but it played in a straight line and when its done its done. Same with gow3. Short lived game. Great but you forget about it the next day. I don't forget the time when 3 of my friends and I are on the last wave of horde mode in Gears 2, with 2 of us dead one bleeding out, and I kill 1 of the last 2 guys only to pick up my friend and kill the last for the win! And that was ages ago!

ps 3 should start by getting a f'n proper controller with a trigger button and real analog sticks! Not this crap sponge triggers and analog stick from the 90's.

Yes i own a ps3 and sony pisses me off

[maverick1191]

your mom should be so proud of you /s

[Cid33]

dont blame an system for lag and crappy gfx blame money hungry hafass programing gamedevelopers that chouse to release half done produkts just to fill their pokets why should you be loial to them

[CaJuaLFeatPuFF]

Lmaoo who gives a fuck about Fable?

that shit can suck my cock

Oh yeah we got GT5. fuck halo reach.

Ima be riding with my top down in GT 5 BITCH!!!!!!!

[mbmanhattan]

I love you all

[Cid33]

when the ps2 whas hacked 4.5Gb download was allot.
i got 100Mb fiber line so it would take 2-4 houers fore me but still i only have time to play maybe 1 game a month in sweden thats 69.99dollars and i can live with that

[fireplace]

Exactly, remember that PS3 games dont fill whole 25GB disc. I don't know what infrastructure is where you people live, but in Poland, yes Poland there are full 100Mbits(12,5MB per second/10GB in 15 minutes) connections available in most of big cities. I'm sure 99% of multiplas are below 10GB. Remember kids 50GB PS3 games downloads is a myth.
This hack is real, games will be compressed to rars and put on torrents everywhere. Deal with it.

[FreddySavage]

i cant believe it's still as locked up as it is...the PS3 i mean...every other console is hacked...pc is a joke...even handhelds have been smacked...but PS3 is hangin on just a little lol

i'm moving to japan damn all this

[slaymanio1]

To play online you will always need the latest updates so basically if this only work with 3.41 you will never be able to play online with the hacked games. So because of not be able to play online, this hack is a no for me. I bought a PS3 to play online and for free I won't buy something that need a 70$ HDD upgrade plus 170$ to only be able to play singleplayer for the price of a rental, I rather play online & single player after all I bought a PS3 for both.