Snipers ruin video games

An article detailing the top five reasons snipers ruin video games

[rroded]

jus plain boring 4 me but i do luv killin em

its pretty easy no matter what game your playing all you got ta do is find the best camping spots sneak up n aply a liberal dose of pain of them while there busy looking thru their scopes for the next target...

[Yi-Long]

... I hate the idiots who run all over the map and getting killed alot, capturing flags only to turn their back and lose the flag again (what use is that!?)

I just pick some good spots, do my job supporting teammates, getting avenger and saviour kills, protecting our flags, and making sure I don't get killed.

Also, the author seems to forget that sniping from across the map to moving targets is usually a bit harder than just running up to them and bursting bullets from your AK47 or whatever.

Also, about the shit-talk... I have everything muted, and I never talk myself. Just let me do my own thing, and hopefully the rest of the team isn't stupid. Usually, they are.

[MisterNiwa]

Well sniping takes skill, the people who say snipers are lame, are simply not good enough to do a headshot on a moving target, lol.

And everyone that disagrees simply agrees.

[morganfell]

It isn't snipers that ruin the game. If snipers are overpowering a session then it is occurring for two reasons.

1 - The team being taken down isn't using the proper tactics for avoiding/dealing with a sniper.

2 - The development team did not institute mechanics that allow counter-tactics to deal with a sniper. Basically the game is not balanced.

[kneon]

I snipe a lot in MAG, and it doesn't involve camping. You have to move forward with the squad and provide supporting cover. And when you're in the close up action all you've got to defend yourself with is a pistol, so you'd better be good at head shots. It's also the job of the sniper to take out other snipers. And when I'm in an elevated position I'm telling the squad what's up ahead as I have the better field of view.

And to say that it takes no skill is just wrong for most games. In good games the more powerful sniper rifles are highly unstable unless you're prone, have a low rate of fire and kick like a mule. Unless someone is dumb enough to just be standing around in the open it usually means you've got to track a quickly moving target and/or react in a split second for the one and only chance you have at killing your target.

[outwar6010]

lol i was going to write the exact same thing maybe someone should write a hate article on run and gunners

[Commander_TK]

rewarding. Camping is not.

[orange-skittle]

Snipers contribute nothing to team based games. They are only in it for self satisfaction. Especially in MW2 and BFBC2. When you play RUSH in BFBC2, the object is to set the charges at com stations and move on to the next base. Snipers stay across the map and acquire kills w/o any movememnt forward. If a team is 80% snipers...how do these charges get planted. that leaves 20% of ground troops. Secondly, out of that 20% some may be MEDIC's which have no defense against vehicles and leaves you wide open to tank and helicopter defenses. Snipers dont care about anyone but themselves and their stats.

[Anon1974]

I'm an old, old gamer and I remember back in the days when playing Rainbow six type games - you die it was game over, or you sat out the rest of the match. Thought needed to be put into your tactics and games often became a tense "cat and mouse" match as players used stealth but had to balance it with a time limit on certain objectives.

I can't stand run and gun gameplay. "Everyone rush to one point and shoot! Yeah!" Sure you got 35 kills that match, but you also died 25 times. Isn't the objective of these games not to die at all?

That's also something I hated about the Gears of War multiplayer. Don't get me wrong, I love Gears of War - but the multiplayer was set up for people with ADD, I swear. "Everyone rush to the center. We're all dead! Next match! Everyone rush to the center!" I tried playing online and matches were taking a minute to complete as everyone rushed to the center, guns a blazin' and that was all she wrote. I personally couldn't stand that style of gameplay.

Give me a well balanced match with snipers and riflemen who take their time and think about their moves any day.

[ChronoJoe]

I agree man.

Like, playing Uncharted today. Our entire team died, and they want me to capture the treasure (which reduces mobility and leaves you vulnerable) whilst it's still centre map.

I will die... ? 4 of you fucking died and you want ME, to go do it? how about I just cover it till you guys get into the field, rather than dying, and letting them take it?

Dumbasses online. And they will really, yell at you because there so adamant that they know what's best for ME to do. I'll do what I fucking like.

Snipers are nice. But I think in some games they can mostly be replaced by a long ranged rifle user, who would perform at greater efficiency. On some games like MAG though, only a sniper can provide long range suppressive fire, it's not something you need a lot of, but it's nice to have a few. I would say.

Snipers are great for funnelling players through one alley, because they want to avoid the snipers. Does a good job of controlling larger groups. ^^ I think some teams struggle to get the balance down though. People think it's cool to snipe, but it's seriously not cool if your whole teams sniping. It's like having a team of medics on TF2. It doesn't work.

[DarkSpawnClone]

Snipers can be a use full part of the team IF they are sniping to protect the team..its all about team work on bfbc2 for example i try to find a high enough spot and while I'm on the mic with my friends i will try to protect them from other players that come from behind or from the sides they don't see..while i don't always "save" them but thats why you have a medic on the team you need a medic,assault and a engineer and some one doing recon helps and you have to keep talking about what you see where the other team is if i died where the person that killed me is because most likely hes going to go after your squad mates ,you want to stay close but not right beside each other and USE YOUR MIC FOR TEAM WORK..not just for talking about how the guy that killed you is a "fagget" lmao

[morganfell]

Plat SOCOM and you will see snipers are a valid and valuable part of a cohesive team.

[Feihc Retsam]

Fact- Not all snipers ruin online multiplayer, but there are enough of the campy variety that it has become very annoying.

When a Domination match in COD:MW2 comes to an end, and your team loses, and the entire match, you heard shots ringing out from the far Southwest corner of Wasteland, you have a sneaking suspicion that XxxSiLeNTsT3AlTHK1llerxxX wasn't looking out for the team's best interests.

Thanks, dude. We're all super-happy that you ended the match with K/D ration of 12/8. Unfortunately, your points total was at the bottom of the list, which means you were detracting rather than contributing to the cause. I'd rather have someone who was "in the trenches" with me, and ready to jump back in the capture point when I got killed than some guy who has a line-of-sight that has coverage of about 8% of the map.

There are lots of scenarios where having a sniper can be a huge advantage, like when you've already locked down an area, and you need someone to keep an eye on it.
But if/when you lose that point, I expect that guy to man up, and put on a non-sniper class to get in there and do some work.

[0mega4]

snipers are the problem?

no developers & publishers such as activation are the problem

there lack of fixing the online experience in mw2 is what is wrong with video games

one many army noob tube should have been fixed asap
along with perks such as command which need to be balanced

[knightdarkbox]

I like the Halo snipers, headshots feel really rewarding in it. Good maps for it in my opinion are Blood Gulch, Coagulation, Vahalla and a lot more I don't feel like listing.

[BARF]

snipers are nothing but camping pussies. it does not take skill to hide and put one shot in someones leg. the reason i quit bfbc2 was the snipers camping and completely ruining the game. snipers also screw up spawns for team mates usually causing spawn camps or a huge run to an objective.

[Marked]

Hardcore is what makes snipers leathal in BFBC2. Just the other night, I had four snipers glitched on top of a hill in hardcore and with the lack of a kill came, it took 7 of my lives to find where they were. Then another 3 to get a shot off to kill one of them.

Situations like this, rage quiters and glitching snipers, is what kills a game.

[orange-skittle]

Not only are you a NOOB, but you're also a whiner! You can't GLITCH in BFBC2 you moron, they were up there because they can get there like anyone else. You do know you can parachute out the helicopter to higher places? Its part of the game you NOOB. Thats why you have SPOT button, try using it next time. Secondly, BFBC2 DOES have a kill cam dummy and the other team cant rush in your initial spawn camp. I am sure your inexperience had you spawning on teammates instead of back at the spawn point. That's your own fault. Once you get past the initial spawn point you can run back to where the sniper is and kill them or spot them for someone else to kill. You are a rookie and need to play as one. Get off hardcore

[Twilightx7]

Aside from your clear anger issues, I have to point out two glaring errors in your response:

1.) There is no kill cam in Hardcore mode, you are very sadly mistaken.
2.) Spotting in Hardcore is only useful if you back out to look at the map, which makes you a sitting duck of a target (Hardcore mode removes the onscreen map.)

And while you're right, it's not technically glitching, I seriously doubt that the devs wanted you to get up on top of some remote hill or mountain in the distance, where if you just nudge the control stick a hair, you're in a deserter zone. Just because you can get there doesn't mean they intended for you to get there.

[thewhoopimen]

What they really need to do balance out sniping in my opinion, is to start introducing windage, earth rotation, and air density at different elevations. Maybe then we can stop having these kiddies think they're so uber sniper skillzorz leet. Cuz really, sniping isn't anywhere as easy as its made out to be in most games.

@above: lol reading ur comment about SPOT. That is such a lame unrealistic feature. Nothing wrong with hardcore. The problem is you guys not moving cover to cover properly.

[avengers1978]

If someone is a good sniper he can be a game changer, but it doesn't ruin the game just makes you plan for it, do a different plan of action.

[SpaceFox]

Repair Tool to the face in BC2, best way to kill camping snipers.

[princejb134]

quick scope lol
like really
i thought call of duty was suppose to be the most realistic shooter
but quick scooping is far for real and very annoying

[socomnick]

Snipers don't ruin video games, developers actually do.

Snipers by nature need to be extremely weak, fast, stealthy and deadly only at long range.

When devs like DICE overpowered snipers like in BC2 giving them 1 hit kill ability on tanks, wall hacking balls, and one hit kill weapons then you ahve a problem.

Because the game overpowers snipers the players pick that class in mass, then you have an unbalanced team.

I cant count the number of games in bc2 where more than half the team was sniping.

Call of Duty however does sniping right, you are weak, only get 1 shot and more importantly you can get killed at any range and must rely on movement, stealth and above all quick reflexes.

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

KNOWS that this article is just some kid whining about his run and gun play, and only plays Modern Warfare. This kid doesn't have the patience to even know the value of what a sniper can have to a TEAM. Yeah it sucks getting shot by a sniper, but having the stupidity to run into the open again to get shot again doesn't justify that a sniper ruins a game.

[RumbleFish]

It would ruin video games if the sniper class was removed.

[scar20]

i love sniping bt as soon as i take a shoot i move and i tend nt to go the usual camping spots instead i run through the outside and take my shots

[DelbertGrady]

I usually enjoy teamplay in online multiplayer so the sniper class is not for me. It's damn fun killing them on the rush desert level in BF BC 2 though.

[-MD-]

Without a good sniper in Team Fortress 2 odds are your team is going to lose. In that game a good sniper can make or break an entire game.

Edit: Whoever disagreed with me has obviously never played Team Fortress 2.

[xAlmostPro]

lol sounds like this guys crying because he's not only terrible at sniping.. but so bad at using regular guns he gets quickscoped all the time..

and lol at "im in a building, they know where i am and somehow manage to shoot through the wall and get me" <its called FMJ, and isnt that pretty skilled to a certain extent? locating an enemy when you cant see them? lol

[kasasensei]

"Snipers ruin video games"
No

[XactGamer]

Depends on how balanced the game is

[LoaMcLoa]

If we take Killzone 2 as an example, the sniper is quite hard to control, but kills at one shot. It may sound strange, but it make the class very balanced.

[EditorAtGNG]

They are an essential in modern warfare so you can't abandon 'em. I do hate when most of the people I play with online (no matter which game) tend to just pick a sniper and wait for someone to show up. Kills the pacing, the excitement of a good shootout. Like some have pointed out already, snipers can be a great attribution to a team, say in a 10 vs 10 match. I just fail to see the relevance of using a sniper in a fast paced shooter like Quake or Unreal.

[finbars75]

I agree with you on that one.It makes no sense at all.I think in BFBC2 it works well but I still find people abusing the crap out of it.I noticed on several time that a whole team becomes a sniper because they are afraid to move forward with there non skills in any other class.Just because they lack in other classes doesnt mean they cant try.But I will say that its funny in most games because most snipers dont move around so its easy to get rid of them.But like you said in a fast pace game like COD it doesnt reall fit the gameplay and dont tell me there helping there team out because thats not how its done in certain games.Its all about selfshiness for them and its not about there team but themselves.

[bigboss911]

My all time record on Unreal Tournament is 135-4 using only a sniper on Facing worlds. Its a CTF map. My team captured twice while the other captured none. Imo with the exception of the redeemer nuke, the sniper is best weapon on the game, followed by the rocket-launcher and flak-cannon and pulse rifle. Dont underestimate the power of a good sniper. Heck just the other day i got a nuke on Strike sniping in mw2. My harrier didnt get jack, and my ac-130 got about six kills. The rest was snipe then move, snipe then move, and a few knifes and claymores. then the last 4 was from a scar/silenced because i ran out of ammo. and this was on free for all.... and everyone was trying to get me lol.

[saint_seya]

best class in fps are snipers.. i loved the sniper rifle on cs: source, more than the ak and m42 ... and in almost every fps, sniper rifles are the best..
best part is, im not a camper, if u know how to use a rifle, and u use a secondary weapon to close combat, u dont need to be a camper.. (also theres campers with machine guns too, those are even worse T_T )

[Hairy Chewie]

Snipers can be invaluble in a good multiplayer match, especially defending positions. But it is ridiculous when half the teams sniping, it's all about balance.

I know whenever I go sniper in BF:BC2 I spend 50% of my time marking targets for my team mates, 5% shooting and 45% running for my life.

[killcycle]

I think it just depends on the game.
In slow paced games with fast aiming it and one shot deaths it definitely ruins it.

As much as I'm attached to my Killzone 2 I have to say that sniping in that game really don't do it any favours.

A Machine gun users only option to deal with snipers is finding an indirect route to get close and then kill them at close range but the perks completely ruin the whole concept.

They give you a Cloak and that Spot mark perk which basically ruins any chance a close ranger fighter has against a sniper because not only can you no longer back attack them but even if you get close they're invisible and even if you do manage to see them gues what.. Desert Eagle + 1 shot = Death.

In games like MAG i think it's cool, You run pretty fast and if your good enough you can dodge the bullets until your in range then punish the sniper for missing.

[T9X69]

It depends on the game really, Snipers ruined BFBC2 hardcore mode for me because sniping wasn't one shot kill in normal games so all the snipers went to hardcore mode.

[kevnb]

I was trying to play wii and a sniper took out the wii-mote!
yes I know lame, just like this blog...

[Capdastaro]

Yeah, it must be annoying to have snipers killing people you know especially in a team deathmatch, you really don't want them racking up kills like that and get all those points for your team.

[Baka-akaB]

oops

[Baka-akaB]

It's a component that has to be there . But it's made too easy in most games , without an actual and real disavantage , besides not seeing behind the scope .

[belal]

but i love realistic sniping, not that Quick scope sniping in mw2 wtf...

in mw2 they should just remove the sleight of hand for any sniper clas, because it's so lame. in the real world you can't do that.

[genocidegeneral215]

in real life you cant do half the shit you can do on mw2
you only bitch about quickscoping because you cant do it
and removing sleight of hand for any sniper class?
hmm yeahh how about removing scavenger for any assault class?
dumb mate dont bitch because you lack the skill ;D

[SHOGUN 36o]

Hey genocide... maybe you need to calm down it is no where near that serious. Belal prefers realistic sniping, and you prefer unrealistic sniping. What the heck is your motivation to bitch about his preference? And scavenging for assualt (or any) class makes more damn sense than anything in mw2. You CAN pick up ammo from a dead soldier in real life. I guess you don't scavenge very well huh?

[genocidegeneral215]

shogun..,
tbh i didnt mean to sound like such an ass
its just the amount of people that hate on quickscoping is insane
but they dont seem to bitch on thee ump , scar or anyother of the overpowered weapons
but yeah thats off subject, snipers dont ruin the game =/
sniping is by far imo the funniest thing to do in any shooter
nothing like zooming in on an enemys face and blasting thee shit outta him (:

[belal]

you say that i can't quickscope? i never said i can't b ut i said it's lame, so is commando and oneman army. BUt i bet i can take you even if you used these perks lol. and by the way, i can quick scope, but it just dosen't feel right to quick scope..

[shovelbum]

I rarely play as a sniper (except on the game sniper) and agree that MW2 quickscoping sucks hard, but I'll gladly take them over commando marathoners any day. Getting a knife to the nuts by someone on the other side of the room running faster than a cheetah on roids ruins my game personally. Snipers exist for a reason and just like in gaming; they are the most despised and feared people on the battlefield. So keep whining since that's as close to modern warfare COD is ever going to get.

[sak500]

majority of my dog tags in BC and BC2 are from snipers sitting calmly in their spot unaware of a looming figure behind them with a knife held high.

[SHOGUN 36o]

Unless they have an Astro A40/Mixamp. I can hear people sneakng up on me a mile away.

[comp_ali]

noobs ruin it more

[HarryMonogenis]

It completely depends on what game. I have to disagree that Sniping ruins all "video games".

[mcnablejr]

sniping is the most difficult/ kind of combat in almost all multilayer shooters

Maybe someone should write an article about why sprayers ruin video games.

[Senden]

Snipers don't bother me too much but in a lot of cases.. they just try and get as many kills as possible and don't think for a second about placing themselves in a place to best help their team mates or supporting a flag carrier or anything.. that annoys me. Only game I can think of where i'm annoyed with snipers is BC2 hardcore mode.

If the article writer wants to make a moan about mp mechanics in games.. go make an article moaning about nooby campers especially in mw2 who just camp with heartbeat sensor, scar/tar and noobtube.. grrr those people really grind my gear.

[Roozium]

Sniping in Halo is atleast skillful and it helps your team out, alot. Obviously, these guys have only played CoD games.

[sigfredod]

On the games like in real life snipers are hated, why dou you think sniper are one the most valuable targets on a real battle?, 1 skilled sniper can do more kills than a platoon of infantry, that their job

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Regular camping snipers suck. I carry a sniper like I carry a machine gun.

[SHOGUN 36o]

And your doing it wrong.

[Violentine]

the truth is that people who think snipers ruins are terrible at sniping.

[SHOGUN 36o]

Sniping doesn't ruin video games. People who don't know how to counter them ruin video games. A lot of people who get shot are so caught up trying to get revenge that they forget to protect or eliminate an objective for the team. And then they get sniped again repeatedly. Most the snipers I have seen Snipers simply annoy people into becoming snipers themselves.

What needs to simply be done is for people to fight harder. Only a few levels in battlefield can be played as a sniper initially without easily exposing yourself to counter sniping or any other threat.

Fight harder... less whining.

[dinkeldinkse]

The only time I would consider snipers ruining any game is when they flat out cheat. Glitching out of map, or into invisible walls.

[NBT91]

The only thing I hate about sniping is the douches who only quick / no scope and have accounts just for it... Hey, why not just play the game than run around taking 20 shots that miss before hitting someone once and then calling them the fag because they (somehow) managed to shoot you first.

[MrChow666]

this moron believes that the only way of having fun with fps games is playing like a f*cking retard rambo, spraying bullets like a fag and running around backstabing players. I love sniping and id love to have sniper only matches and f*ck the rambo idiots who refuse to use their mind.

[finbars75]

Well in saying that go buy sniper warrior moron and using your mind in sniping okay.How hard is it to sit there and site up some guy who is across the map.Thats really using your brain or skills.It takes more skill to go around running and shooting people and do objectives when you get maybe one sniper kill for every 6 RAMBO KILLS and objectives I do.I dont see how thats helping your team.Before you open your mouth maybe you should look at th other side of the tracks idiot.I gurantee you I do a hell of alot more work in my one game then you do in you 10.Skill to be a sniper plzzz maybe setting up that tent with a campfire does take more effort then i think to bad you dont get extra EXP for that.But the only thing I will say thats positive is that sniping isnt ruining games.It is part of the game and I do give credit once in a blue moon but not to often.Once I see a sniper who is near the top of the leaderboard then i will praise you but until then you guys can keep sniping and Im going to keep killing you.

[A-stil_Tv]

i dont mind snipers but when they are how they are in cod mw2 its starts to get annoying like being able to put red dots and acogs on sniper rifles..PEOPLE WHY DO YOU INSIST ON BUY THESE COD GAMES CUZ THERE ALL FOR THE NOOBS ...4EXAMPLE 2 NADES FOR THE NOOB TUBE AND THEN THEY GIVE YOU A CALL SIGN CALLED NOOB TUBER...THEY MUST KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING..THINK ABOUT IT, THEY PLAYED OTHER GAMES THEY HEARD OF THE BULLSHIT AND STILL CHOOSE TO INCORPORATE IT IN THEIR GAMES..HMMF. AND U SAY IW IS THE BETTER MAKERS OF COD IF U AKS ME THEY HELP MAKE IT BETTER AND THEN KILLED IT AT THE SAME TIME WITH THEIR GAY ASS PERKS.. STOP BUYING THE GAMES AND THEYLL FIX IT . BUT IF UR ONLY GONNA COMPLAIN AND STILL BUY THE GAME U LOOSE BOTH WAYS AND THE DEVELOPERS WIN (PSN:A-stil)

[MrChow666]

finbars75

hehe sniper warrior? lol no thanks I dont buy crap. ok man if that works for you, its okay, keep at it. I dont like rambo style players but I usualy dont complain about them, its just that I hate when articles like this appear bashing snipers.
Sniping is not always synonymous with camping and it DOES take skill.

[writersblock]

But I do it properly. None of that run and quickscope bullshit that would actually break your shoulder from recoil. I find a good spot (not a glitch on roof spot) covering my team and try to hold the other team off objectived. I've actually held down 1-2 flag points on domination for the entire game. Without me, our team would easily have lost those games

[gamingisnotacrime]

In BC2 playing rush mode i rarely play Sniper, but when i noticed the enemy is making a strong push through a specific route i get my M95 and start killing, plus mortar attacks and what you get is a huge drop in their numbers. I always say, if it is in the game then it is fair. Is like the medic reviving the same soldier over and over again. is all fair within the game.
But in a dethmatch in hardcore, the snipers really put the smell on the sht

[Kazu0 Hirai]

Snipers are pussies. Grow a pair.

[MrChow666]

OK MACHOMAN

[Jeff257]

Back when MAG first came out all I ever did was Snipe. I used to be really effective not only at taking out multiple enemies but also at calling out enemy positions and movement. Also if my team was having a hard time with a sniper on the other side I would move my position to take out the other sniper. I always supported my team and in some instances did so well that the other team would send 5-6 people just to try to take me out. That really left there side at a disadvantage in modes like Sabotage or Domination. In those you really need to bring as many people as you can to a site to take it over. But if your constantly worrying about a sniper and holding back from attacking then that gives the sniper's team a chance to respawn and regroup. Anyway a good sniper can be very effective in team based games. but you dont really need more than two.

[kesvalk]

sniping is dificult to master, in good games.

take TF2 for example, it's the second most dificult class to play (the first is spy).

[theonlylolking]

No they dont. It makes them more fun since I get easy kills that way. So snipers keep sniping.

[49erguy]

I personally don't snipe, but in Killzone 2 Warzone they're EVERYWHERE! Once you reach the rank of General, snipers are everywhere just aiming at spawn points. On top of that they have invisibility. But in Killzone it's very hard to snipe, or even shoot for that matter, so being good at it (like myself) is very rewarding unlike other contemporary shooters.

I find myself SMH at the MP in Killzone 2 sometimes because its chaotic yes, but not the positive type. There should be a limit to the number of people playing because its OVERPOPULATED. Blood Graht and Corinth Crossing are nightmares with more than 20 people. I still love it though!

[ATi_Elite]

Dear Editor;

How about you stop playing such a N0ob game like Modern Warfare 2 and try a real game like BFBC2 and then you will see that snipers are cool.

Snipers are a necessity in holding down forward positions from a distance or providing covering fire until proper forces arrive. I myself love using snipers and medics and have no problem risking my neck for the benefit of team victory.

MW2 is a N0ob game that's broken on all fronts so don't complain about snipers until you play a real game. Just say MW2 is broken and sucks.

I'm more concerned about that DAM tank, apache, or UAV than a sniper who are the easiest people to knife and kill.

"OH Shite" "We gotta sniper over there" POW! "Medic"

A team of 5 or 6 snipers has no chance of winning.

[doughboy2008]

Sniping does not equal camping you idiot. I snipe all the time doesn't mean I sit in one spot. I move with my team in BC2 and in MW2 I quickscope noobs like you.

[writersblock]

Quickscoping is the definition of noob

[Corrwin]

1 hit kill? Piss off.

If you get annoyed at snipers, it's because your the kind of immature douche who will run up to somebody and knife them. Get over it.