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Why There Are No Ladders in Fallout

IGN writes: "You may not have noticed while playing Bethesda's Fallout or Elder Scrolls titles over the years, but none of the games from those series include ladders as a means of getting to higher places.

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard admitting during a panel at Quakecon today that one of the gameplay features the studio continues to cut game after game is the inclusion of ladders for players to climb."

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SeanRL5004d ago (Edited 5004d ago )

My 350+ hours invested into fallout 3 would just like to say....

F*CK LADDERS! Gimme stairs and more power armor!

Edit: Jet packs work too. Anyways, looking forward to Fallout: New Vegas, even if the engine looks and runs the exact same.

MariaHelFutura5004d ago (Edited 5004d ago )

Ladders and Stairs are overrated. Give me a Jet pack.

Fred-G-Sanford5004d ago

I'm gonna buy Fallout 3 (Game of the Year edition) for my PC later today when it goes on sale at Steam.

I rented it for my 360 and played it for around 5 or 6 hours, but now I'm going to buy it and finish the entire game and all of its DLC in glorious 1920x1080.

Yay me. :D

Bigpappy5004d ago

This is a modern RPG. Only painters and service men use ladders.

Who wants to climb a ladder with a rocket launcher on his back?

AndrewRyan5003d ago

Mario jumps To get to the chimney on the roof of the house.

rroded5004d ago

"It just felt like we're game development pussies because we can't do ladders."

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard

lol

zagibu5003d ago

Yeah, well, hasn't anybody else noticed that they are still using the same Klik&Play Game-Maker kit they've bought from an Indian Developer in 1999? They have no single programmer, just a bunch of artists that create assets for their kit. Mentioning ladders is just a desperate try to make people laugh, so they don't notice that they also can't do drivable vehicles, deformable terrain, or even a basic multiplayer mode like deathmatch.

I'm kidding, btw.

RedDead5004d ago

Ladders are boring anyway. Prefare to fight my way up the stairs

palaeomerus5003d ago

In Morrowind you didn't need ladders because you could walk on air or jump a long long ways. Sadly Oblivion nixed that.

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Red_Phoenix5004d ago

Ramps and elevators seem to be working perfectly fine for me. Screw ladders, I would trade in the use of ladders in game for a game like fallout any day.

TheIneffableBob5004d ago

Sounds like they need a new game engine (id Tech 5???).

big_silky5004d ago

I understand it's a game but in reality ladders aren't that common. I don't remember the last time I actually saw one.

Nihilism5004d ago

What do you mean? I mean I know there aren't ladders lying around everywhere now, but when nuclear explosions occur, don't they randomly generate ladders and spew them all over the terrain for ease of use for survivors. I must be missing something.

Note to bethesda: Climbing rubble in a nuclear wasteland is apparently less realistic than strategically placed ladders made from all the invisible trees that were killed in the fallout...yeah I don't get this article.

danielle0075004d ago

But, obviously, not having ladders makes them pussies.

.... And they want to be manly men! Roar.

SpaceFox5003d ago

Yeah, last time I remember seeing a ladder was.. BC2? Before that, RE5.

karl5004d ago

u cant skate on ladders .... ramps FTW

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies15h ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken10h ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing691d 2h ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker1d 2h ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing691d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt13h ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken10h ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Now is the Best Time to Get This Incredible RPG Bundle on Steam

If you are looking for an awesome RPG, look no further. Steam is offering a significant discount on its Fallout Franchise Bundle.

SimpleSlave1d 16h ago

"You can get all Fallout games in a bundle at a significant 20% discount on Steam. Individually, all these games add up to $244.91. With the discount, you can get them all for $195.91. That is $49 less than the original price. Quite a significant discount for such a popular franchise."

😊 😂 🤣 😐 - But why?

Just wait for a sale and get most if not all of it for a fraction of that price.

20% off...lol

Tacoboto1d 16h ago

The games were just on a real sale over the last week or two for the show promotion. Fallout 4 was $10, 3 was $5, NV was cheap as heck too.

So what the heck is this

Inverno1d 16h ago

The original games have been given out for free by Amazon for GOG and Epic, 76 is free now on Amazon if you have prime, Epic has also given out new Vegas for free and 4 has gone down to pretty cheap prices. 194 bucks is a total ripoff when you can get these games individually for less. Don't forget cd keys might sell em for a dollar less at times too. Come on man, us cheapskates won't touch anything near or above 100 lolz

isarai1d 16h ago

Bro that's a ridiculous ripoff are you kidding me? 🤣

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Fallout 3's Reveal Led To Death Threats And Bethesda's First Security Guard

The artist behind Fallout 4’s Deathclaw reveals just how bad things got back when Bethesda took over the series

anast2d ago

People are stupid I get it. No one should feel unsafe,

But I think they need to talk about why they cut so many corners during the development process and why none of their games ever look current. And why they think all of this is okay while they charge full price.

LucasRuinedChildhood2d ago

As much as Bethesda deserve criticism, that's not really relevant to the reveal of Fallout 3 in 2007.

VenomUK2d ago

The default angle Kotaku always go for is to highlight the worst in gaming.

I would’ve focused on the creative.

anast1d 22h ago

The game went downhill at Fallout 3's release. This is when they started to cut corners.

gold_drake2d ago

there is no "but". the hell lol
you dont send death threats, period.

anast1d 22h ago

Usually, you have good comments but this isn't one of them. It just rides the mob. We can do both condemn the actions and not let them use it for other things.

I can say I received a death threat and everyone needs to shut up. People are not honest and will use horrible things to their advantage.

Armaggedon2d ago

Not all games “look” current.

anast1d 22h ago

Their games always look like the gen before it.

Armaggedon1d 13h ago

Yeah, but thats not the result of laziness, incompetence, or a bad engine. Thats what happens with their type of open world games. Its hard for people to find a point of comparison because no one makes games like Bethesda does.

gold_drake1d 16h ago

mh ok thanks, i still think ur wrong in this mate.

anast1d 14h ago

No problem. I'm not here to convince you. I'm only stating an actuality. What your words do if we look at them like events.

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