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Why There Are No Ladders in Fallout

IGN writes: "You may not have noticed while playing Bethesda's Fallout or Elder Scrolls titles over the years, but none of the games from those series include ladders as a means of getting to higher places.

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard admitting during a panel at Quakecon today that one of the gameplay features the studio continues to cut game after game is the inclusion of ladders for players to climb."

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SeanRL5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

My 350+ hours invested into fallout 3 would just like to say....

F*CK LADDERS! Gimme stairs and more power armor!

Edit: Jet packs work too. Anyways, looking forward to Fallout: New Vegas, even if the engine looks and runs the exact same.

MariaHelFutura5434d ago (Edited 5434d ago )

Ladders and Stairs are overrated. Give me a Jet pack.

Fred-G-Sanford5434d ago

I'm gonna buy Fallout 3 (Game of the Year edition) for my PC later today when it goes on sale at Steam.

I rented it for my 360 and played it for around 5 or 6 hours, but now I'm going to buy it and finish the entire game and all of its DLC in glorious 1920x1080.

Yay me. :D

Bigpappy5434d ago

This is a modern RPG. Only painters and service men use ladders.

Who wants to climb a ladder with a rocket launcher on his back?

AndrewRyan5434d ago

Mario jumps To get to the chimney on the roof of the house.

rroded5434d ago

"It just felt like we're game development pussies because we can't do ladders."

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard

lol

zagibu5434d ago

Yeah, well, hasn't anybody else noticed that they are still using the same Klik&Play Game-Maker kit they've bought from an Indian Developer in 1999? They have no single programmer, just a bunch of artists that create assets for their kit. Mentioning ladders is just a desperate try to make people laugh, so they don't notice that they also can't do drivable vehicles, deformable terrain, or even a basic multiplayer mode like deathmatch.

I'm kidding, btw.

RedDead5434d ago

Ladders are boring anyway. Prefare to fight my way up the stairs

palaeomerus5434d ago

In Morrowind you didn't need ladders because you could walk on air or jump a long long ways. Sadly Oblivion nixed that.

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Red_Phoenix5434d ago

Ramps and elevators seem to be working perfectly fine for me. Screw ladders, I would trade in the use of ladders in game for a game like fallout any day.

TheIneffableBob5434d ago

Sounds like they need a new game engine (id Tech 5???).

big_silky5434d ago

I understand it's a game but in reality ladders aren't that common. I don't remember the last time I actually saw one.

Nihilism5434d ago

What do you mean? I mean I know there aren't ladders lying around everywhere now, but when nuclear explosions occur, don't they randomly generate ladders and spew them all over the terrain for ease of use for survivors. I must be missing something.

Note to bethesda: Climbing rubble in a nuclear wasteland is apparently less realistic than strategically placed ladders made from all the invisible trees that were killed in the fallout...yeah I don't get this article.

danielle0075434d ago

But, obviously, not having ladders makes them pussies.

.... And they want to be manly men! Roar.

SpaceFox5434d ago

Yeah, last time I remember seeing a ladder was.. BC2? Before that, RE5.

karl5434d ago

u cant skate on ladders .... ramps FTW

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Fallout 3 designer expects remaster to revise gunplay to make it closer to Fallout 4

Fallout 3 game designer Bruce Nesmith explains that the upcoming remaster should revise the game's gunplay to be more modern.

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neutralgamer199267d ago

Give us FO3 with all the dlc remastered like ESO. Load times faster, quality of life improvements, gun play improvements

I believe it shouldn't just be graphical they should make improvements where they can to make the game better. A simple face lift isn't what's needed

ZeekQuattro67d ago

Still my favorite one. I remember getting a digital copy of FO3 when I got FO4(XBO). It was nice to finally play a stable version of the game. Then when I got a Series S it was an even better expierence. Quick resume and FPS boost made it feel like a whole new game. Updated gunplay would be very welcome though. One of the few things FO4 did better.

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Fallout 3 Remaster is coming after Oblivion Remastered, but "it'll be a while" until we see it

The rumoured Fallout 3 Remaster is still in development, but it will be years until fans get to play it on new platforms.

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jznrpg75d ago

New Vegas and Morrowind should have been first!

Christopher75d ago

Fairly certain we all know that New Vegas isn't getting anything because it's not a Bethesda developed game.

OMGitzThatGuy75d ago

MS owns both devs, if they want it, a 3rd party will make it.

Christopher74d ago

***MS owns both devs, if they want it, a 3rd party will make it. ***

I think the issue is that it's not a Bethesda developed game, not that MS owns both. This is more about Todd.

RaidenBlack74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Yep ... Todd doesn't like getting bettered within his own IP scope.
I still think of the Elder Scrolls spin-off Obsidian pitched similar to New Vegas, but Todd rejected.

RaidenBlack74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Replayed NV more than FO3 ... so I appreciate the FO3 remaster more.
For NV, I'd much prefer a sequel or a spinoff from Obsidian.

FTLmaster75d ago

Got a soft spot for Fallout 3, so I'd be down to play this.

-Foxtrot75d ago

It's crazy New Vegas wasn't worked on first to launch alongside Fallout Season 2.

They could have added all the cut content they had planned but didn't have enough development time to add, possibly even expand on it a little more. For example, have the Vegas strip as one big hub over being chopped into smaller sections we have to keep loading into.

neutralgamer199274d ago

Would love a complete remake or sequel with enough resources

Abnor_Mal75d ago

The only Fallout game I’ve played, PS3 had to keep stopping every few minutes to save. Next thing I knew the credits were rolling and I never did any side quest. I never replayed the game because of all the bugs the game had.

Yui_Suzumiya74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

I've played Fallout 3 more than any game. I lost count many years ago of how many times I finished it. It was my first Platinum trophy. But yeah, it was buggy on PS3 at launch before it got properly patched.

anast75d ago

They are only remaking their games that have been streamlined.

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Indiana Jones and The Great Circle is a Full Circle Moment for One Dev

Todd Howard has held onto the idea of Indiana Jones and The Great Circle for 15 years, but he's not the only dev with a long story with this game.

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anast210d ago

I would be worried. Todd Howard spent 20 years thinking about Starfield...

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Reaper22_210d ago

Sony spent over 400 Million on concord. At least people are actually playing Starfield.

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anast209d ago (Edited 209d ago )

Concord is the only game Sony released in the last 10 years... sorry, in the last 20 years.

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gold_drake209d ago

Todd howard has never produced stable games.

Starfield was a mess, the Fallout games have always been really buggy.

this is not the flex they think it is.

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