Why All the Hate for Playstation Plus?

PSN@Home Writes: "Alright so I’ve seen a lot of articles about Playstation plus saying it’s a horrible service. I would like to try and counter all these articles. Playstation Plus in my opinion is a deal. Technically it’s a great deal. You get lots of discounts and deals on content at the Playstation store as well as betas and full game trails. Of course none of this is supposedly stellar content in terms of what a lot of people have been saying. Now what I am about to tell you is NOT a catch. If you end your subscription you lose your FREE games you got."

[alphakennybody]

The hate goes beyond ps+ only. I can see the value for ps+, I don't have any money right now but soon I'm subscribing.

[Donny]

Its Not Hate, Its Jealousy.

[T9X69]

Jealous of what? I have almost 100 friends on my PSN friends list and only 2 of them bought PS+.

EDIT: @thong_pounder - Stating facts is not trolling little boy, don't be mad because you don't have friends. I have real friends on my PSN, all you have is N4G fanboys as your "friends".

Oh I'm sorry 92 friends and only 3 bought PS+ not 2. 3 Whole people WOW

[Boody-Bandit]

I have 52 people on my friends list and 27 of them have plus.
Possibly 28 after tonight because I am thinking of adding myself to that list.

[Big Frank]

PSN+ is a joke. You pay a subscription just to get some free and reduced price games!! WTF!!! If you pay $50 for an online service you would expect to get modern day communications with it.

[-Alpha]

This is a mis-characterization.

There isn't "all" this hate. Anything and everything usually has its critics, doesn't mean PS+ has a lot of hate. A lot of people also have praised +, so I find that articles like this always follow in typical fashion that try to make it look like the product at hand is suffering from triviality.

Just because it gets some criticisms doesn't mean it should be treated as a victim of something, I have seen much a lot more praise for + than hate.

[Montrealien]

PSN + is a great concept. I am glad Sony found a way to make money of of their great service. Still needs some work, but now with this added revenue, we should be getting alot more out of PSN, and PSN+.

nothing is free, except maybe basic online play, hopefully MS will learn from this.

[deafwing]

but it would be nice if they added more unique features to it (of course xmb chat, gameplay record, etc) to make it stand out more from the standard free service (even though that to is solid in its own right).

[sikbeta]

"you pay $50 for an online service you would expect to get modern day communications with it."

Here Comes the Cry-loud for Cross Game Chat, I totally hope Sony charge for that Feature, all of the kids whining right now would be so glad to Pay $50 just for that...

PS+ is an Option, so why don't people that don't like to get more stuff for their Bucks forget about this Service and let the People that Want it alone...

[Army_of_Darkness]

damn Bro! you one popular super cool cat to have "100" real friends on PSN!!

I only have about 25 REAL friends! so it makes me wonder as to how you even have time to play games?!?! cause I barely have time now.

[Sarcasm]

It's somewhat true.

The other service you pay to play online.

This one, you pay for discounts, games, free games, and some features.

But either way, even if you don't get PS+ you still get PSN which is still 100% free.

[happyface]

ps3 owners dont like paying money for online features, not sure why sony did this because their fan base wont support it

[Boody-Bandit]

at least not yet. Rumor has it Sony will offer advanced communication to PSN+ members and that will definitely benefit online gaming if true and would be considered an online feature.

For now you are strictly paying for free and reduced price content plus Qore for free. It's a great deal for people that are into content, content, content.

No, PS3 consumers don't want to pay to play online. HUGE difference between content and gaming online but then again we all know that you know the differences between the two. You are just doing your usual routine and as usual failing miserably at it.

[Montrealien]

I have a feeling the services will be coming soon. And its great, this added revenue stream will help make PSN better.

[Daishi]

"For now you are strictly paying for free and reduced price content"
Im sorry but that made me laugh so hard i had to bring it up because i love paying for free stuff!? Joking aside i get what you mean though, the price of admission definately warrants what you walk away with.

[sikbeta]

lol says the guy who Pays $50 per year for Playing On-line, Something everyone else can get it for free, How I can take these guys serious...

[ThanatosDMC]

Online features are all ready there for free. PS+ is for games.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

haahahaha Home hahahahah

[RatFuker]

ps+gamers+wipeout+discounts+be tas+trials=orgasm.

[thong_pounder]

T9X69 i would like to see at least one friend on ur list lol "100" friends

"A person trolling at n4g has no life so how is he/she going to have a friend"

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

I'm subscribing, is a better deal than other ''services''.

[ico92]

it makes no sense playstation + is optional, unlike XBL its not mandatory for online play, and from what i've seen your getting much more than your moneys worth, there are 2 reasons why i havn't got a subscription yet

1.im kinda broke at the momment

2. i wanna wait till its matured and expanded alot more, dont get me wrong at the momment its a good deal but i know its gonna get better , which leads me to my next point...

...its been out for like 3 DAYS, this reminds me of the ps3 slim like 2 hours after it was announced
"TEH PS3 SLIM IS DOOOMED" "TOO LITTLE TO LATE"

[ForeAllEternity]

Your reason #2 is also the reason why I'm on the fence of getting PS+ right now. Even though that 3 extra months is really appealing.

[halojunkie]

every fanboy comment i see against the ps+, im buying my friends a subscription to ps+

edit: ill add you on demons souls. ;)

[Crusade]

My psn is Traveling_Circus, pal.

Oh and I play demon's souls as well.

[LordMarius]

Holy crap. add me dude, lol

[blazBlue]

I'm maxed out on friends. Beat that. Also, a majority of my friends have PSN+. Just because you hate it, doesn't mean others have to.

[RememberThe357]

Well said. And with no personal attacks. See T9whatever, you don't have to be such a downer in every article. Show your bright side every once in a while.

None of my friends played Alan Wake, but it doesn't stop me from wanting to play it.

[ThanatosDMC]

Probably because it's a good $50 subscription purchase instead of a ripoff subscription.

[NYC_Gamer]

well because its from sony the company people love to hate on

[deadreckoning666]

I think people are hating because PS Plus only offers value to people who buy many things from the Playstation Store(PSN games, PS One Classics, Themes, Minis)

Me and MOST of the PS3 community don't give a crap about these things and just wanna play disc-based games. I don't understand why Sony isn't giving us things the MAJORITY of us are asking for. I mean, just look at the last firmware. The biggest feature was a video editor, yes a VIDEO EDITOR. This proves that Sony is NOT listening to the community....or they are listening, but aren't doing anything about it.

Personally, I don't "hate" the service. I just think it's stupid considering that PS Plus only caters to the minority of the PS3 community that ACTUALLY gives a crap about PSN games.

@Disagrees- Watever. We'll see how successful PSN Plus will be once we know how many PS3 owners actually subscribed by the end of the year. I have 38 friends on my main PSN account and only ONE has signed up for Playstation Plus so far.

PSN Games- I'd rather spend my cash on full games

PSOne Classics- I bought my PS3 to play PS3 games..not PSOne games

Themes- I can get free themes on PS3-themes.com I don't care if their animated or not, there free. I have Vida Guerra's sweet ass as my theme as we speak :)

Minis- LOL, ur kidding right

Free Qore- Qore should be free because it promotes Sony's OWN products lol. Besides, I can watch every episode of Qore on youtube and N4G gets more inside info than Qore anyways.

[yewles1]

Holy crap... that whole post was nothing but whining over ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! XD

[knight626]

do use a favor next time there is an update dont update

[Cerberus2125]

I'll like to know how you became VP of speaking on behalf of MOST of the PS3 Community?,you're looking more like the VP of talking S@#$.

People have to realize that PS+ is Sony way of saying thanks to those who buy stuff from PSN,a reward to their valuable Costumers.

[ico92]

" think people are hating because PS Plus only offers value to people who buy many things from the Playstation Store(PSN games, PS One Classics, Themes, Minis) "

but thats the thing, if you use PSN to its full extent PS+ is there to expand your online experience, you dont HAVE to subscribe its NOT mandatory , if you enjoy PSN as it is when its free, thats fine dont subscribe to PS+, if you want to expand your PSN experience you have an OPTION, theres no reason to hate on an option, and its not as if its a bad deal you've even stated before that its great deal for its target demographic, so whats with all the hate ?

[Silly gameAr]

"Minis- LOL, ur kidding right"

Haven't tried Age of Zombies huh?

edit: You're still a tool. A bi-polar one at that.

[josh14399]

i dont hate the service im just not buying at the moment because i already own most the games that are on the service at the moment.

[foss3]

PSN: $0/yr
PSN+: gives you discounts and free games $49/yr
PSN total: $0 (or $49 with discounts and free games)

XBOX Live: $49/yr
XBOX total: $49/yr with no discounts or free games

Let's say you could have either pricing scheme or either console, which do you think would hailed and which would be hated on?

[jaysquared]

You forgot to add this on your list for Xbox live

-X game chat/Party chat
-More stable online service
-Better netflix support
-Faster download
-Better support in general..

[BigPenguin]

I am so tired of the crap that you guys spread.

You said xbox is more stable then PSN, and that is bullshit. PSN has dedicated servers, its why you can have 256 people in a map, while 360 caps out at 16 P2P. Live has also been down, as in service unavailable, far more then PSN has been, you remember Christmas 2 years ago? Shit like that has not happened on PlayStation.

You say faster download, I call bullshit, they are the same. You have no basis for saying that.

Better netflix support? Get over it, xbox has an app on the dashboard, PSN has a disk. Not a big deal.

I will give you x-game chat/party chat. You are right, PSN does not have it. Better support is also subjective, so I call a push.

I will not even list what PSN does better then live.

I will however say this. PSN: BigPenguin XBL: BigRoundPenguin
I have live gold, I dont have PSN+. Go ahead, call me a PSN fanboy. Just because you are an uneducated retard, does not mean you can just spout out bullshit nonsense. I am fucking sick of it on this site. That goes for everyone I didnt directly reply to as well.

[PS3ROCKS]

Turtles

[Jack-Pyro]

I like em too.

I like em in my soup. =D

[Duke Spookem]

You're not the only one...

[Graey]

I like them on a half-shell...Turtle Power

[playstation_clan]

PLAYSTATION 3

[newhumanbreed]

A better question is - why all the Playstation Plus articles?

[Theparanerds]

It kinda just came out

[MGRogue2017]

I don't need PSN+ as it doesn't have anything particularly interesting for me. Simple.

It looks like a mighty fine service.. but I'm fine with just my free online gaming. :)

[Dannehkins]

I am surprised. Although, these supposed 'hate articles' also had constructive criticism. I think that's critical for the service's progress.

Although, at the end of the day, you have an optional service. Online still remains free and I think that's just the key thing. I think it's swayed some, but not others.

What I'd like to say is that in the future, more and more people will be converted to the PlayStation Plus service, because there will be additional services that will make it worth while for them. At the moment, it's appealing to those that use the store regularly and like a variety of games. I think the next step is to appeal to gamers who just want more features to use whilst they play their game.

[MorganX]

+1

[MorganX]

I think the hate is when attempts are made to down XBL. Unfortunatley or fortunately, PSN was so far behind, they had to offer online for free. Nothing wrong with that. Now, they offer the pay part and many view that as not being worth the cost.

Of course free online is great. But that does cause PS+ a problem when it comes to proving its worth. Everyone can understand services like xgame chat, ESPN, etc. It's harder for those who don't buy themes, XBLA or PSN games to see any value.

Regardless, it will be successful. Based on sheer numbers, a good percentage of online PSN users will get value out of it and it will be successful.

[gamingisnotacrime]

dude 360 is the only console that charges for online gaming.
PS3, PSP, DS, Wii, PC are all free online gaming.
and we have only seen the first few days of a year, obviously the content will only get better from now on

[MorganX]

XBL is the best paid service. PSN is the best free service.

[olLANDSHARKlo]

Why would I need Plus when my PS3 is mostly a blu-ray player, Xbox live is the online service of my choice, the medal of honor beta is unplayable online for PS3, and I'm sure this will be the free betas that you will get with plus. They need to make the online service better before offering something like this.

[stephmhishot]

yawn, hooray for you! wow you're so cool! why is everyone "disagree"-ing you? sony sucks, MS is awezome!!

[stephmhishot]

on a related note, the BMW dealership near me sucks because they sell these state of the art vehicles. meanwhile i can get these daewoos at this used car dealership for $2500! hahahahhah BMWs suck! lawl!

[skatezero246]

I have no clue, but I will be getting ps+ next month because you would have to be blind not to see the value for ps+

[lonix]

they love m$ cock in their mouths

[newhumanbreed]

hahahaha

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Why hate in the first place?!

[gamingisnotacrime]

other than that LIVE is a top of the line service

[whizyup]

Look, PlayStation plus isn't going to just start off with amazing hooks. SlOw-NY is known to be a bit sparse on amazing features, but there's not enough known about what sort of support PS plus will recieve after just a week of availability. Sounds like a bunch of pessimist.

[XactGamer]

Who's hating?

[Crusade]

I love sony and the PS3, but I just see it as a slippery slope to them charging for psn in general. Remember when premium themes came out and people temporarily freaked out saying themes won't be free anymore, etc? How many free themes do you see on psn now? Maybe like 1 or 2 a month?

[Captain Tuttle]

Not much hate for it here on N4G.

[ForROME]

because it sux

[Dellis]

Take away the Online and it will be a success at this
point it is just an optional renting service with bonus it means nothing in the gaming business at all.

[edub1026]

Why complain about an optional service that you are not required to purchase? $54 or so after taxes amount to less than $3.40 a month which I'm sure a lot of you spend more on fast food and junk a month anyway.
Hopefully with more people becoming PS+ members it'll mean the free service will become better as well.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

People are comparing it to xbox live when it should be compared to like a sams club membership...

[seany1]

im all for psn plus as its means sony gaining cash and will only help get features and improvements to psn as a whole a lot faster . people moaning about wanting cross chat for free need to get a serious grip of reality you paid for a ps3 you got it if you want cross chat you should pay too , would you expect free petrol after buying a car ?

[turok]

right now its stupid and pointless to get ps+ now the content is too little.

ill wait 3-4 months then check back and see if its worth the $17.99 for 3 months.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

72 hours into PS+ and one thing is clear; It isn't 'hate' rather fear.
Not a single valid,worthwhile or reasonable thought otherwise.Attack it while it is in it's infancy because it cannot fight back ....yet.
Desperation manifests itself in strange ways.My Gold account needs renewing,I am desperate to play online.

[hoops]

Its the same reason why there was hate for XBL...
The only people hating PSN+ or XBL are fanboys of opposite camps.
Those clowns are not gamers.

[rob6021]

I'm just uncomfortable with the fact you have to be subscribed to access the 'free' stuff. Meaning after my sub runs out I'll have to renew several times over if i want to play what I've gotten.

[NotSoSilentBob]

It is hated for the simple fact it is a Sony Product/idea. It shows that you CAN play online without having to pay, but if you want to pay you will get that Extra content that is worth MORE then the 50$ a year you will pay. It is a glorified rental service with a few Fringe benefits.

[Starlight]

It's nothing to do with hating Sony/PS3. Looking at it from a neutral perspective. PS+ Just isn't for me. You only get two features (Auto Download and Beta Access), reduced priced games (woo) free DLC and Avatars - these are good because you get to keep them.

I'd rather Sony bring out a service that is going to enhance my enjoyment of the PSN/PS3. This service does not enhance the capabilities of the PSN in any way.

I'll still be on the lookout however. At least Sony's trying.

[El Nino]

i have bout 30ish friends on my list, me and a few others have it, people notice you have it and ask you whats it like

let me tell you in this month alone...i got lbp, wipeout hd, one ps1 classic, 2 dynamic themes, 2 avatars, 2 60 min demo's & 2 psn games, oh and killzone 2 map pack

i'm not doing the math but i reckon that almost equates to my yearly subscription, and its one month and its only just started..you cant spin that shit, its great value for money if you like trying out various games...if you play mw2 24/7 then yeah dont buy it, but i like trying different games and customizing my xmb with themes etc, so its perfect for me

also you dont have to buy it! nobody is forcing you lol, sony is giving you the option..take it or leave it, its no big deal

[kwyjibo]

Maybe it's because [normal] people don't like having to pay purely for the opportunity to be advertised to.