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Why PlayStation Plus is Better Than Xbox Live

PSLS writes: "Among the handfuls of information Sony revealed at E3 2010 was the announcement of the long-rumored PlayStation Plus. After months and months of rumors regarding a pay-to-play PlayStation Network, it was announced that the new PlayStation Plus will be an optional subscription-based system which rewards the consumer with several cool incentives including free games, early beta access and more. While the reception has been largely positive, several PlayStation 3 owners have voiced concerns about what the service will entail. However, when looking at what Sony is offering with PlayStation Plus side-by-side with Microsoft’s competing Xbox Live platform, PlayStation Plus is undoubtedly the better service..."

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seij5555478d ago

Yup makes sense, we still need x game chat though.

Donny5478d ago

im loving psn+ for the fact that i get custom themes, STEAM, cvc is coming, and i get numberous discounts from psn. did i mention "STEAM"...drools

Dramscus5478d ago

They didn't say anything about steam being a part of plus.
For all anybody knows it could just be part of the regular psn.

SOAD5478d ago

We're not getting STEAM. Stop spreading misinformation.

LtSkittles5478d ago

it's STEAMWORKS. Did I mention STEAMWORKS?

OpenGL5478d ago

Steam is not going to be an actual part of PSN, but simply a feature built into Portal 2. I would compare its implementation to the KONAMI ID system used in Metal Gear Solid 4.

Dramscus5478d ago

They haven't released any details at all, but yes likely it will just be the steam updating and patching system.
If they ever do sell games digitally on the ps3 it will be through the ps store where steam would have it's own section.

Donny5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

soad, you have got some nerve to assume im some fkn bandit spreading lies. screw u guys

HolyOrangeCows5478d ago

They didn't insult or assume anything about you.
They have asked you not to spread misinformation.

Your comment reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

NastyLeftHook5478d ago

they were not insulting you.

Syronicus5477d ago

Why is PSN+ better than live? Because I still don't need to pay to play online with PSN+. I think that's pretty simple if you ask me.

Menech5477d ago

Yeah makes perfect sense costs more then live yearly and does half the stuff xD

Syronicus5471d ago

Gee that's funny... I didn't know that you got 4 free games every month when paying for live... Oh wait, you don't? So psn is better the? I thought so.

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Rainstorm815478d ago

If sony added x game chat i think it would be worth the price of addmission for alot of gamers.

ME? Give me the games, discounts and all the other extras plus i cant wait to see whats down the line. In comparison to XBL i think the the differences were minimal when psn was just a free service but now you are get more tangible things out of PSN+ than XBL unless you count online play but that should be free.

I think ill get the year of PS+ and if its not vastly improved in a year then no need to continue it, but im willing to adopt early besides im addicted to Dynamic themes. Best thing since the custom evo dash on my modded xbox 1

beardpapa5478d ago

I suppose a reason why Live can never be free is because part of the money goes to funding and supporting the bandwidth usage necessary for VoiP in x-game chat. I only say this because I read that part of the PSN+ fee goes towards xgame chat, hence why free users can't initiate a xgame chat convo [and the entire convo drops as soon as the PSN+ member quits].

Anyway, I wouldn't mind paying for PSN+ if I get free PSN games a month since some of them can be like $5-9 a pop. I wish Live had free XBLA games a month. Early on I had hoped that my gamerscore could be used to redeem stuff (like those tickets @ Dave & Busters), but since accepting that the gamerscore/trophies are just that ... I hadn't bothered with trying to get everything. So ... a free game a month for this annual PSN+ service sounds good to me. Granted I don't get to keep the game if I cancel.

Although ... I wonder if we get a cheaper subscription rate for FF14. I'm looking forward to that a lot, and would probably pay for that over an annual PSN+.

FACTUAL evidence5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

Yeah keep acting like the ps3 doesn't need cross game chat....I mean it's only the #1 feature mostly wanted with the PSN. I kind of agree with you, but psn really has no sort of "group contact" during a game.

I did get to the point that I have no hope for x game chat on the PS this gen, but now I at least want voice messaging. I hate getting my hopes up for FW, but if at least voice messaging isn't in update 3.40....let's just say I'm going to be livid.

strickers5478d ago

What do you mean PSN has no group contact in games?Most games have squad or team features will the ability to mute others.In KZ there is voice for local(people near to you in game)and squads of 4 you form who have map wide voice.Many games are like this but it's not a PSN feature,it's a game by game basis.
Cross game chat does not matter to me.It would be a nice little add on but I wouldn't pay for it.I cancelled Live and cross game chat is the only feature over PSN worth having.It's not enough.

vhero5478d ago

PS+ blows it away as XBL gives you nothing in terms of value everything you get from XBL is worthless after 12 months you are left with nothing to show for it.

zerocool33975477d ago

Everything you get from XBL is always there if you pay or don't pay for your subscription.

Everything you get from PS+ wont work after your subscription ends.

dangert125477d ago (Edited 5477d ago )

just the free stuff like the games wont be there
we get to keep themes and gamer pics etc
we keep what we brought

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BigPete79785478d ago

I think both have their advantages. But as the first commenter said, PS3 does need cross game chat.

ps3gamerkyle5478d ago

I can see why cross game chat can be important for some people, but for me? Not a big deal.

Dramscus5478d ago

Same. I'd rather talk to the people I'm playing with in pretty much every game I play.

There was that one time though a friend just wanted to talk over mic and asked me to leave game.

Generally though if I'm playing a shooting game I'm talking tactics with my squad, if I'm racing I'm either not using the mic or smack talking. Why would I want to just chat with friends while I'm gaming. Get a phone.

Megaton5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

I actually really don't like it. I like chat with my friends while I play the same game with them, but not cross-game. I tried it once and it was pretty annoying. I was playing Mass Effect 2, and he was playing... shit, I don't even remember. My point is that it was hard to concentrate.

All we really got out of eachother was "yeah" and "nice", cobbling together a sentence or two when one of us would hit a load screen.

beardpapa5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

@Xiphos

I'm with you on that. There's a reason why when someone calls me on my cell and I'm doing an mp session of MW2 that I purposely lie to them and say that I'm busy eating dinner with guests.

Equally frustrating when someone calls and I'm in the middle of my daily ritual [Geometry Wars] trying to get a higher ranking.

Rainstorm815478d ago

I was never a fan of XGC but it does come in handy at times. For instance talking to someone trying to find that killzone 2 room your in is far better than pausing the game & typing message.

BUt if online multiplayer is your think and you actually use ur headset then XGC would do anything for you.

Boody-Bandit5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

used cross chat one time with a close friend for 5 minutes.
Never used it again. When I game I don't talk unless it's team chat and only if friends are on. When I am playing a single player game I don't respond to text, chat request, cell phone or house phone. Leave me alone I am GAMING! This is my time. Talk to you when I'm done, maybe.

Personally what I would prefer more is private or party chat. That way you can ignore the undesirables and still have communication with people interested in playing the game.

ASSASSYN 36o5478d ago

Hey xiphos you must have a serious issue with concentration and hand eye coordination in a slow pace game like mass effect 2 while talking (a non requirement to play that game) poses a significant problem for you.

Can't you come up with an excuse that makes sense? That has to be the dumbest thing I ever read. You have issues talking to other people with a hands free headset not doing what you are doing. Stay off the drugs kid. If you said you were plotting a course on a sectional chart I can see your point. But, mass effect 2... nah kid... that is a boo boo excuse.

SixZeroFour5478d ago

i really like party chat with bfbc2 and halo...bfbc2 cause having to only be able to talk to 3 other ppl isnt as helpful as having 7 other ppl with mics...3 is good enough, but with 7, you really have more to work with and coordinate with. And the reason i like it with halo is cause i really do have a fun time just chatting with friends most of the time (not too competitive in halo) and not be annoyed by the other ppl

Megaton5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

Mass Effect 2 has this crazy thing called dialog, and quite a bit of it too. Sometimes you can even, hang onto your seat here big guy, respond with your own dialog! I know a connoisseur of shooters like yourself wouldn't know anything about that, but for some of us it's actually a key part of the game. Shocking, I know. It's like talking to 2 people at once with cross-game chat if you're actually paying any attention to the game's story and what the characters are saying.

But please, by all means, keep calling me an idiot/child/junkie if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Anon19745478d ago

I never once used cross game chat on XBL, I wouldn't use it on PSN. If I'm playing the same game as others I'll talk. Different games? Forget it. Have you ever tried to talk to someone over the phone while they were playing something or watching a movie? It's maddening. If you can't give me your attention when you're talking to me, call me when you can. It's just downright rude. If you want to talk, the PS3 already has audio and video chat outside of games when you can actually pay attention to who you're talking to. Or you could use the phone.

Useless feature, in my opinion. It's not even a feature. Features add value to something. Cross game chat is a gimmick.

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thematrix12985478d ago

Agreed. I think cross game chat is boring. Why would I want to talk to my friend who is playing another game. Developing cost/Benefit for this feature is high which means it's not worth it :)

SixZeroFour5477d ago

maybe cause sometimes they just want to talk to their friends even if they arent playing the same thing

i dont know how many times ive had friends over and they go on computer or something or just watch/take turns while we play single player online games and just chill and chat...its basically the same thing except they arent at my place

JonnyBigBoss5478d ago

Cross game voice chat is coming. I know it has been a long time but once it's out people will realize they don't use it that often and will forget how long it took for it to come out. Doesn't mean I don't want it, because I do, but I think it's a bit overrated.

ps3gamerkyle5478d ago

Sony, on the US PS Blog today, outright said Cross Game Chat is being "look[ed] at as a viable offering", which should be interpreted as: it is coming soon. Whether it is either across the board, or limited to the premium service, is the big question.

http://blog.us.playstation....

Big Frank5478d ago

I cant believe you retards are trying to say cross game chat is not that useful. It's only useless if u have no-one on your friends list.

Have you ever tried to organise a game with multiple friends? If you did you would no PSN is a nightmare to do this because of the lack of cross chat.

Cross game chat is a HUGE feature used by tons of people.

Stop lying to yourselves. Cross chat is one of the many things that makes Live a way better service.

ExPresident5478d ago

I have and do organize games with multiple friends almost daily. I jump on MAG, they see I'm playing it on my profile, they turn on MAG. If I'm not in a game I send a party invite, they join the group and we go. If I'm in a game they join the game and finish it out (sometimes in the same squad if a spot is open) and if not then we are still in the same game, finish at the same time, and group up from there.

Really not that hard.

Nathaniel_Drake5478d ago

So what about the free GAMES?!? You would take XGC over free GAMES?!?! Wow?!?!

FreeFalling5478d ago

There are two reasons PSN+ doesn't appeal to me.

1)All of the "free" games given to you every month ends after the year is up you PAID $50 a year for. Sure the random games given to you outweighs the $50, but you see, the games are ones Sony chooses to give to you, they're not even by choice. You might end up with games you don't even want.

2)I doubt you're gonna be playing those games a whole lot when you have complete/full games to buy for your PS3. The games PSN+ gives are more like secondary options when you're bored w/ the games you already have, and to me $50 doesn't cut it. ESPECIALLY since it may not even be games I want.

Okay, I don't mean to encite flames, but can I get a decent response to these complaints?

vhero5478d ago

No it doesn't why do people go on about cross game chat like its a big feature? I tell you why! Because its the only 1 feature 360 still has that PS3 doesn't forget the crap load of features PS3 has 360 don't oh no they don't matter. Let's all concentrate on the 1 feature 360 has ps3 don't. I wouldn't mind but it's not even that important. Only 360 fanboys care because they got it and a few ps3 fans want it because they feel left out. If you are that bothered get a mobile/cell with skype DONE!

PopEmUp5477d ago

I rather have custom soundtrack as default to every games over cross game chat anyday

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ingiomar5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

if only xbox live was free to play online.

PSN+ is what xbox live is supposed to be..NOT a moneymaking machine and offer great stuff for gamers not that it doesn't right now but still it could at least have free online play

Dramscus5478d ago

M$ Is all about the money making machines.
They are the very stereotypical big evil greedy corporation.

Sev5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

Since when did male gamers turn into such broads?

Who needs cross game voice chat? What is this, the party line? There is an 800 number for your type of loneliness.

For a long time I supported those of you wanted cross game voice chat just because if you are a PS3 owner and you want a feature, you should have it (reasonably speaking). But I cannot deal with all the whining for a feature that lets you whine some more to your friends online while they play a DIFFERENT game.

Quite frankly I would find it annoying and I firmly believe you should only talk to those in the same game, mode and match as you.

/rant

SOAD5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

Please don't downplay features just because PS3 doesn't have them. Everyone does this with everything.

Oh, we don't have so and so? Well, we don't need so and so. Oh, you don't have so and so, well, sucks for you because so and so is really important.

The fanboys are incessantly doing this. Just because you don't have something doesn't mean it's not good or useful.

You guys sound like the fox that hungrily stares up at the bird in the tree, and, seeing that he cannot reach the bird, he says, "ah, it probably doesn't taste good anyway."

Cross-game chat is a good feature. It allows friends unrestricted communication when they're playing different games.

Boody-Bandit5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

different games"

Do you talk on your cell when you are at a movie theater?
Watching a movie or show with you friends or family?

Why would you want to chat with a friend if you are playing different games? The immersion goes right out the window. I prefer to be totally engrossed and pay complete attention to what I am doing. Surround sound cranked, kicked back in my comfy chair with my feet up.

I don't know, maybe I'm just old and set in my ways but when I am gaming or watching any program I want it to be quiet with no distractions and I want to be left alone. If it's a team game I will chat on my mic but if I am playing a single player campaign of any kind? Leave me alone!

If my friends see that I am playing a single player game on PSN or XBL? They might send me a text on my cell but that's it. They know when I'm gaming I go hardcore and don't want to be bothered.

Private chat or party chat would be nice but cross chat? I don't know many people that bother with it. I have used private chat more on XBL then an open mic. Now that I would like to have but it's not really that needed either. You can just mute all and unmute your friends. Basically it's the same thing and allowed in all games. Party chat is starting to be excluded from certain games but for good reason (cheating).

Nathaniel_Drake5478d ago

XGC is coming, so I don't have any idea what the excuses of Live being better are going to be. It will be fun to see that, can't wait

Sev5478d ago (Edited 5478d ago )

I think you are confusing me with one of these rabid fanboys common on N4G.

I just personally don't care about the feature and am not downplaying anything. I know what a big deal Cross Game Voice Chat is to gamers, I know because I've been hearing them whine for 4 years.

I'm a launch PS3 owner, I'm a launch Wii owner. I'm a launch owner of every damn console pretty much ever (sans the sucky ones like Jaguar and 3DO). I'm a 360 owner but a tad late to the game. Games are what sell me, not features. I pick my consoles by what games they play. Not because I can chat with my buddies (I have a Droid for that). The feature is just not that important to me.

Then again, I've been gaming since the Atari 2600, and I've been perfectly happy thus far in my gaming career just playing f***ing games on the console. I really don't need additional bells and whistles as long as the games continue to be good.

You sound like that fox that stares up at the bird in the tree and says "I better go call my friends up on Xbox Live to chat about this bird I am looking at"

How about you play the game?

I really need some more bubbles so I can talk more... I have so much to say... :)

SOAD5478d ago

"You must be that fox that stares up in the bird in the tree and says "I better go call my friends up on Xbox Live to chat about this bird I am looking at"

I don't even have XBL anymore. Nice try, though. I just think that if a useful features exists, then people should be applauding it and demanding it for their console instead of downplaying it.

I understand why the PS3 fanboys are downplaying it. They don't like to hear the 360 fanboys lording it around as if it's the greatest feature ever, which it isn't. I think the mature people on this site don't pull this bullshit. Cross-game chat is a good feature and I want Sony to implement it at some point. I'm not going to keep bitching about it, because if you check my comment history you'll see I haven't spoken about it at all, but my opinion on the matter is that I want it on my PS3.

Nathaniel_Drake5478d ago

Careful Sev someone my mistake you for a gamer, you know one that only cares for GAMES

FreeFalling5478d ago

and be sociable and have friends too.

Just saying~

Big Frank5478d ago

@Sev1512

You're special. In the wrong way.

"Quite frankly I would find it annoying and I firmly believe you should only talk to those in the same game, mode and match as you."

Thats priceless! You should start a new Nazi gaming regime where people aren't even alowed to look at people that don't play the same game as you.

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OG Xbox Live Replacement 'Insignia' Continues To Grow With 11 New Supported Games

Online multiplayer is back for 11 more games thanks to Insignia's XBL 1.0 replacement service running on Original Xbox consoles and the Xemu emulator on PC. Multiplayer, voice chat, leaderboards, etc. have been a monthly addition for many games from Xbox's past library thank to the team at Insignia.live! The 11 new games are now playable online once again after 13+ years.

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XiNatsuDragnel832d ago

Yes yes now bring x360 xbox live then we're golden for life.

Asplundh830d ago

?? Xbox 360 servers are still online, they haven't been taken down yet.

XiNatsuDragnel830d ago

Nah they will be tho look at rscs3 they have psn made in there emulator why not xenia bro?

Blashted830d ago

Service still in beta form, sign up/player counts here: https://insignia.live/

slayereddy830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

Booo!! I was hoping that was Rainbow Six: Black Arrow...Boo!! again. I thought this coming to Xbox. I don't even read it I was so excited.

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7 Abandoned Xbox Series We Probably Won't Get Back

Has everyone completely forgotten Blinx?

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WickedLester2937d ago

You forgot to add "thank God" at the end of the headline.

tomr29922937d ago

Indeed... Praise the Lord!

V0MIT_M0NSTER2937d ago

So glad that they won't mess with Banjo anymore.

-Foxtrot2936d ago

So you wouldn't want a proper Banjo-Threeie, Jade Empire or Kameo 2...really?

AZRoboto2936d ago

Or Crimson Skies. That was the shiz

FallenAngel19842937d ago

It's a shame we can't get another Banjo-Kazooie game

-Foxtrot2936d ago

Literally one that's called Banjo-Threeie and they start the game with Kazooie waking up in distress telling Banjo of a hardly nightmare while recapping Nuts and Bolts.

PhoenixUp2937d ago

Microsoft never could maintain a longrunning decent 3D platformers series of their own

AZRoboto2936d ago

I don't think "longrunning" is really necessary... Isn't Blinx the only one that got a sequel?

darthv722936d ago

Blinx needs to return if at least to show up Bubsy.

ninsigma2936d ago

Not sure if it was Xbox only back in the day but I'd love a current gen jet set radio!

Paytaa2936d ago

Jet Set Radio Future was only on Xbox. Fantastic game. Even better than Jet Set Radio for the Dreamcast in my opinion. Such a good soundtrack too

ninsigma2936d ago

Game was beast and deserves to come back on current gen. And hell yeah plus one for that soundtrack!

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Review: Table Top Racing: World Tour (Xbox One) by The Gamerscore Whores

Without a doubt, one of our highlights from EGX Rezzed 2016 was Table Top Racing. It was almost a classic love tale…”As soon as we locked eyes… (enter mushy crap here…)” – We think you get the picture. It just reminded us of a time where gaming was much less complicated and way more colourful, however at the time the game was only due to be released on the PS4… That’s not a bad thing. It just mean’t that being my primary console of choice is Xbox One, we wouldn’t get to play this any time soon as the majority of my games and friends reside in the Microsoft ecosystem – so when we got word this was getting a release on Xbox One, we immediately put our hands up and said “Yes, Please!”.

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