MMOs Say No To 360, Cite Microsoft Subscription Fee Cut Demands

Ripten writes: "Wondering why Square Enix’s Final Fantasy XIV isn’t coming to Xbox 360, or why Cryptic canceled the release of their own MMO, Champions Online, for the Microsoft console? The answer might be as simple as money..."

[dangert12]

so they should ms are to greedy im sorry im not a fan of exclusives every should have the great expriences out there but microsoft have there hands in every kind of pot at the moment

in the long run its only hurting them i mean ecept monster hunter online which is old what mmo's we getting

[Chris399]

In Japan they bundled the game subscription with Gold memberships (basically one month of Live with one month of these MH "tickets" that you need to play the game).

I would be VERY surprised if they did this in North America as they would have to subsidize a much, much larger install base. It's about the money, after all.

[Ryudo]

Am sorry but did you read the article, first off I didn't know MMOs had a common spokesman.

The whole article consisted of one person second guessing what developers had said because "the developers apparently can't speak for them self".

There is nothing to read here other then the opinion of one person and he doesn't seem very well informed on the whole MMO scene anyways.

When this is the source for your article you know your reading tripe "A recent Game Informer article cites “several anonymous sources”"

O he also wrote the Article "Why Sony “Won” E3 2010" I know am reading from a clearly "unbiased" source considering Nintendo destroyed everyone this E3.

[Sandwich Bender]

Ryudo, Ripten also posted "Why Microsoft Won E3" and "Why Nintendo Won E3." It was just a feature from three different perspectives.

And the writer drew no conclusions in his post, simply saying these reports "might" be the reason.

[Ryudo]

And am simply saying it's rather unlikely and the writer of this article clearly favors Sony.

Having played FF11 and PSU on the 360 I know it's most likely to do with Microsoft closing of the live platform then developers saying no.

And the fact that every single article you comment in belongs to a Ripten post sorta shows that your not unbiased in this either. did you write this tripe or you sticking up for your buddy?

[Menech]

The guy basically says the developers could be lying and several anonymous sources could be telling the truth.

I would rather take the developers word for it if am honest.

[FrankDaTank]

and you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, though i'm sure you'll keep running your mouth anyway. it's the internet.

[Ryudo]

Awww what up next Ripten clown pissed? Don't worry I will carry on typing my rubbish why you keep writing tripe articles for hits.

I have some headlines for the next bunch of bollox that roll outa your mouth. Some Article headlines for your site.

1) Xbox 360s explodes killing 3 kittens

2) Research shows playing on the PS3 could cause cancer

3) Playing Wii could cause children to learn the way of the ninja before going on a killing spree.

[Sandwich Bender]

But where are YOUR sources, Ryudo? I don't believe that an exploding 360 killed 3 kittens! I don't believe it at all!

[Persistantthug]

Clearly, Microsoft doesn't want any new MMORPG's on its system...clearly.

It's nixed Marvel, Champions, APB, FF14's looking bad, and since 360 is closer architecture to PC, it wouldn't be surprising to hear others got nixed.

Microsoft doesn't want MMO's (excluding FF11 which was last gen).

[EvilBlackCat]

A triple A mmo in consoles is a menace for the rest of the developers.

[ruiner4482]

I totally agree, from summer '04 to sometime in '07 when I got a ps3 the only thing I played was ffxi. I bought Xenosaga, GTA collection, Silent Hill 3 but I never played them until I canceled my account for a while. If I get hooked on FFXIV I will probably follow the same path but this time I probably won't buy the games I won't play. :D

[YourFlyness]

So MS is trying to double-dip and short change the devs

[-EvoAnubis-]

Jeez, aren't the millions they make from people paying for XBL Gold enough for them?

[MadMan00]

Of course not, who doesn't want more money? Lol.

[RememberThe357]

Good point.

[bioshock1221]

You would think. I think it's dumb there are hardly any MMO on the Xbox 360 so I don't see why they are trying to make it hard for so many developers who obviously want to make MMO's for Xbox live. It only makes their platform look worse. Compare to lets say the PS3 who are starting get quite a few MMO's.

[Eazy-Eman]

Pow

[spektical]

so M$ is looking to capitalize on getting more money. I'm cool with that, as long as the end product is presentable and working (no shoddy software or hardware). This is what 360 fans hope for, i assume.

[KillerPwned]

This is just wrong....

[evrfighter]

it's not wrong its capitalism.

I'm glad no other mmo dev's are tolerating it though. With Gabe pretty much calling out M$ on their closed environment and giving the ps3 a little steam love. Another blow would be a respected dev/publisher coming out to confirm this article.

Sooner or later M$ will have to change. This is why awhile back I said Gabe was a genius. He's singlehandedly trying to change the way the game is played. If anyone could do it, it would be the man that took pc gaming out of its dark age.

Expect to see another quote by Gabe soon criticizing the way M$ does things.

[Spenok]

This is how the world works. Im glad as well that devs dont sit back and take something they dont want. It would be interesting for Gabe to come out and critisize Microsoft though...i guess time will tell.

[CrzyFooL]

wait wait whoa whao wut!?

[Gamer_Z]

Xbox live just isnt worth the money to me, so i stoped paying for it ^_^

[Chris399]

I think that's what it is at least :)

That director has a new movie coming out next year called "Your Highness" with Zooey Deschanel and James F. Should be hilarious.

[RESR_Venezuela]

Xbox360 is the "Apple" of this game consoles.... always close... if you dont believe me... ask Valve...

[Cueil]

You don't have to be a gold member to effing play MMOs... FF 11 plays just fine for Silver members... this is bull

with that being said this isn't about you being a gold member to play MMOs it's about Microsoft supposedly wanting a chunk of the money from subscription fees... I'd like to see the terms for bringing and MMO to the 360...

[FrankDaTank]

they are talking about mmo subscription fees, not xbox live subscription fees. why is it people comment before reading????

[nunley33]

why would i be able to play a MMO on Live without Gold since you can't play ANY GAME ONLINE with silver and i do believe with MMO games, playing online is required with no offline part. So is this guy mistaken,dumb,a troll, stealth ms employee or all the above? hmm DISCUSS AND VOTE.

[ironwolf777]

I'm sure by the time this is all sorted out Age Of Conan will be almost ready for the 360. Probably only 3 or 4 more years.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

So this is what Square Enix means by "closed".

[A LIVING LEGEND]

PSN is ideal for mmo's,; why?.because you start at at exactly 0$ and likely can afford a fee for whatever game suits you.
PSN+ MMO's= a reason to pay a fee beyond ISP fees....

[ArchangelMike]

I use Sky broadband which I get for free. Unfortunately where I live (the darkside of the moon), I can only receive a maximum speed of 5mb which suits me fine as most web apps and movies stream live (unless it's a HD stream in which case I have to wait a few secons, still no bigie). Downside is it's capped at a 2gb download per month. Now considering that an average episode of First Play weighs in at 1.5gb you can see I have to be careful what I download...

...anyways, back to the topic at hand... with a free ISP and a free PSN, my multiplayer gaming is completely free... as it damn well should considering I forked out 300quid for the console, and then 50quid for the game.

I honestly don't understand why console users would agree to pay the extra cash just to play online. The secret of capitalism is that it is the consumer that dictates demand - if no one buys it it eliminates the market for it.

It looks like developers are wising up to M$ money grabbing antics and are beginig to boycott them. More power to the people I say. Hopefully it will make M$ rethink it's strategy, especially as the PS3's momentum does not look to be abating anytime soon. The MMO scene might be the next weapon in this cold war, and with companies like CCP (Eve-Online), Acti-Blizzard (WoW), considering bringing their MMO's to consoles, (not forgetting those that will be available on the PS3 imminently - The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms, and ofc FFXIV), it looks like th ePS3 is the place to be for MMO moving forward. Furthermore, being able to pay only one subscription fee for the MMO(or not at all for Free Realms)is definately a WIN WIN!