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Xbox 360 Slim Doesn't RROD in Heat Tests Side by Side with PS3

GoFanBoy: After rumors surfaced in the gaming community that the new Xbox 360 Slims (or whatever you want to call the new SKU) were experiencing the same ill-fate that the new model’s predecessor had been plagued with, we wanted to test it out for ourselves. In order to ensure we put the console through its riggers, we setup a test that we knew would push any of the older model Xbox 360s over the edge and into an instant Red Ring fit.

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GunShotEddy5471d ago

The PS3 fat put off a lot more heat than the PS3 slim. Not fair.

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GWAVE5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

This test really doesn't mean anything. Think of all the people who say "RRoD is a myth! My 360 hasn't overheated ever, and I have a launch console". Testing one console is pointless. You think Microsoft only tested on console before launch? Wait, don't answer that...

Well duh! The failure rate isn't 100%, even if you do crank up the thermostat. If you want a definitive test, perform the same test on 100 different 360 S's, or 1,000.

I mean, I wouldn't expect amateur gaming journalists to understand the process of product testing, but c'MON!

ThanatosDMC5470d ago

Well my fatty PS3 died after 2-3yrs worth of thick dust, folding, and heavy gaming... damn, dust bunnies. I'm happy with my new Slim but weirded out because it doesnt have the shutdown button on the back.

Consoldtobots5470d ago

tell me bout it thanatos, the other day I spent 2+ hours disassembling my PS3FAT and there was about a half inch of dust around all the vents.
Broke out the vacuum and now I can't even tell it's on. Oddly enough I found an asian site that sells a PS3 vent filter kit to prevent this sort of thing.

Inane_Asylum5470d ago

"In addition to testing the new Xbox 360, we wanted to run a parallel test with our PS3. It should be noted that for this test we used our 160gb PS3 fat that came in our Drake’s Fortune bundle a long while back."

Testing a brand new 360 alongside an old PS3 = instant fail...

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sikbeta5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

The PS3 fat put off a lot more heat and keep Working, the PS3 Slim put less heat and keep working, x360"S" doesn't RROD, it RDOD when overheat to prevent its own death and the x360 is the one that get RROD when its going to Brick...(edited)

MariaHelFutura5471d ago

Yeah, that`s not really a fair comparison IMO.

OSU_Gamer5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

Lol, you really want to talk about fair on N4G. Look around.

corneliuscrust5471d ago

This place doesnt know the meaning of the word "fair"

ruiner44825471d ago

Seems pretty fair and balanced around here! :p

AciDx5471d ago

Yay. Now the sony fanboys can let this one go hopefully.

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DoucheVader5471d ago

This is hardly scientific, especially coming from "Go Fanboy".

Don't believe everything you read on the interwebs.

Snakefist305471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

That is a sh***t article and a bunch of lies too.My friend has 40GB ps3 fat he plays abut 4 or 6 hrs straight and nothing has happen to his Ps3 no shutdowns no nothing.He continually 4 or 6hrs everyday.This is a complete Bullsh**t article.

saf1007925471d ago

Did you read where they put the thing? I really doubt your buddy plays with it sitting in a closed closet

gtamike5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

Already but now it's called "Red Dot Of Death"
http://www.blogcdn.com/www....

KaBaW5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

If you type, like you're supposed to, then you are.
Considering you have to move your hand in a more.. stressful position,
to type every-1 than to just simply type, everyone.

XactGamer5470d ago

http://psychology.wikia.com... because this page is full of them.

I think he should shove all the consoles in that small space and let them melt into a mutated console hybrid the PS360Wii.

beardpapa5470d ago

Err.... if they're gonna run a real heat test, they shoulda used a more intensive game instead of Guitar Hero. =P

Persistantthug5470d ago

But I don't think I would ever trust the opinion of a site called "gofanboy.com".

Why in the hell would they put a PHAT PS3 against a Slim 360?

Makes no sense.....except to gofanboy.com of course.

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Omega45471d ago

Sadly this will annoy some people

GunShotEddy5471d ago

Why would it annoy anyone? They used a PS3 fat because they new it heated up more than the PS3 slim. We're not annoyed, just know the only reason the 360 lasted. Plus the 360 is brand new. You know if they have a 160gb, it wasn't sitting in the box, because those are old.

-Alpha5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

I think he means that some people enjoy seeing the 360 continue to fail. Already people are acting as if RRoD exists, still in its grandest form simply because they saw a website show a Youtube video of a 360S malfunctioning. This to them is all the proof they need to eternally cast the 360S in the same light as the original 360. It's a very unfair thing to do, but it gets done.

And I certainly see that happen when individual Youtube videos of the new 360 are pulled out, turned into article, and people begin hyping them as if it means the whole 360 S model has failed (as if any piece of hardware isn't prone to fault).

See, this article is a good step to properly testing out and making comparisons that are fair, accurate, and properly done for people who truly care to see how the new model does. It's a simple scientific comparison. We need more of this instead of random Youtube videos that attempt to cause heat and trouble. I'd like to see surveys done by bigger media groups down the months to really get a broader picture of how the 360S is doing. If MS truly has cleaned up their act we need to properly confirm it.

I'd also like to see the same done for the Elite. To my knowledge MS reduced RRoD a lot with the Elite models (or so they say), but they are still under 3 yr warranties if I'm not mistaken, and that makes me wonder about if they are just as prone to RRoD, or if they are less prone.

Sm0k3y_Bac0n5471d ago

Yeah, there will proabably be quite a few trolls who are upset the new xbox doesn't break as much.

It's stupid really, everyone should be happy that 360s are getting more reliable so that gamers aren't forced to wait a month to get theirs fixed.

Some people just have nothing better to do than downplay another console. If people love their 360/PS3 that much they should go play on it rather than trying to mock another console.

Chris3995471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

"...a good step to properly testing out and making comparisons that are fair, accurate, and properly done". And as a 'scientific comparison', it's laughable. No sample or data is accurate in a 1 vs. 1 comparison - when one of the consoles is of an older make and manufacture date, no less. And why even compare it to a PS3 - other than for hits? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to do stress tests between a 360 Slim and a newly purchased 360 fat?

I'm not putting out an opinion about whether the new 360 does or does not RROD (or whatever permutation that you might call it now), but there is nothing professional or scientific about article or it's findings.

The whole thing is incredibly amateurish. Truth is we'll just have to wait and see till they're out on the market for a while before anyone knows anything about whether or not the new box is reliable. MS says that it is, so let's just leave it at that for now. A couple of youtube videos and by the same token a half-assed stress test run on some amateur website aren't really providing a strong basis for an argument either way.

Edit: No, it's still rather horrid, actually :) I'm not trying to argue, but articles like this are part of the cancer that infests N4G and the gaming media as a whole. They should be comparing 360 models w/ 360 models and using a sizable sample within a controlled environment - standard testing procedure (we learned this back in high-school). None of that was done. The PS3 was just thrown in for kicks, it has no relevance to the reliability of a 360 unit, none at all.

-Alpha5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

@Chris

Yeah, scientific was the wrong word to use, sorry.

The point is that it's a better step at trying to arrive at the conclusion

Edit:

But it's better than using Youtube videos, isn't it? At least the comparison is trying to arrive at a conclusion or trying to prove a point.

But you are correct, I see your point. I feel really bad for saying it was scientific, sorry for the poor wordage ;)

edgeofblade5471d ago (Edited 5471d ago )

Funny thing about citing the new warranty as an indication of anything... you could spin it either way. Either Microsoft did not include a 3-yr extended warranty because they have more confidence in the hardware... or they could have included it to instill confidence in the consumer.

Either way, I observe the same bias that Alpha-Male sees. Everyone wants to ridicule the 360 because they are addicted to the snark-monster.

FragMnTagM5471d ago

I don't think anyone claimed that it was scientific besides Alpha and he admittedly said it was a poor word choice. Of course it is not scientific.

The point of the test was that, unless I missed something, the consoles were sharing the same heat inside the cabinet. Any of the older 360 models would have suffered dearly from that test. The new XBOX didn't even shut off, surely anyone can see that that is an improvement at least.

Anyway, either the youtube video with the RDOD or this test doesn't prove anything yet like you said. We will have to wait a little bit to see just how well it is made.

By the way I am not disagreeing with you, I am just putting the point of the test out there and I believe the point was that both consoles were sharing the same hot air.

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nycredude5471d ago

I find it funny that all of a sudden gofanboy.com is a viable source of information regarding hardware.

This website is amongst the worst out there and I would rather get inundated with pop ups on an ugly chick xxx website and suffer multiple malware intrusions than give this sorry ass site hits.

OT: The gaming is starting to resemble the real media, in that they use sensationalist headlines and topics to garner more hits, so you have to assume that things will get overblown, whether it's regarding 360, Wii or the Ps3.

vgn245471d ago

I think we know which console you prefer. You should have said you'd rather get tons of pop-ups from a xxx site than hear ANYTHING not negative about the 360.

no_more_trolling5471d ago

ohh and a simple youtube video of a supposedly rrod is 100% proof right?

do u even think before you type

vgchica5471d ago

why wasn't the Wii tested? It's part of this gen.

vgn245471d ago

The Wii isn't exactly a power plant that creates a lot of heat (or quality games, lol) Just a joke. The Wii is great, but not considered the same as the other two.

midgard2275471d ago

u know the wii's quality games are the same as ps2 quality games, which were great, but that was 5-6 yrs ago :)

still i suppose 2 or 3 wii titles are ok (demon blade muramasa)

WLPowell5471d ago

I haven't seen many wii games I would seriously put in the same ballpark as MGS2 and 3, Ico and Shadow of the collosus, Zoe 1 and 2, GTA 3 series, ffx, gow series, etc. I've seen Mario's greatest hits wii volumes 1, 2, and 3, a lot of ok games, and shovelware.

Pistolero5470d ago

Aww...are you disappointed that the 360 didn't fail in this test and the ps3 was the one that turned off?...I know you were hoping to have some ammo to troll with.

booni35471d ago

wow. an article that doesnt bash the 360 slim. nice change of pace.

MisterNiwa5471d ago

Yeah because, every article is worshipping the PS3, and not one of them, ever, was bashing the PS3 at all.

Ever since the 360 was released it was bashed on N4G!

/s

Deathracer5471d ago

They are just jealous of the new Xbox's Wi-Fi.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr35471d ago

So you're here for the redemption? That is delightfully sad...

Sez 5471d ago

And ever since MS got into the console industry last gen. They have been bash since. And last gen nintendo got bashed for the gamecube last gen also. Not trying to be a fanboy on any system. But stop acting like Sony was the only company to get bash. Especially on this site. I remember when I first join this site. Sonyfans was bashing the 360 because it wasn't B/C with the old xbox games. Or was bashed because they dropped the xbox after 4 years.

So no Sony wasn't the only company to get bashed. I think that Sony was getting the same treatment that MS and ninty got last gen.

Pistolero5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

i hate when ps3 fans bring out that crap about the 360 fanboys bashing the ps3 as if that gives them an excuse to do all the trolling they do now
...for one thing the ps3 was never bashed by 360 fanboys as bad as ps3 fanboys have bashed the 360 over the years.
...the other thing is that if they only knew how much bashing the original Xbox got and how arrogant the ps2 fans were last generation....they would know that those sony fanboys still have a heavy karmic debt to pay.

...I decided to post some links to old articles from around the time the ps3 came out and other older articles to see if what the ps3 fanboys always say is true about tons of 360 fanboys trolling ps3 articles back then and how bad they supposedly had it...
http://n4g.com/news/15392/p...
http://n4g.com/news/177000/...
http://n4g.com/news/11825/g...
http://n4g.com/news/40808/n...
http://n4g.com/news/12904/r...
http://n4g.com/news/41357/h...
http://n4g.com/news/11830/i...

...so where in any of those articles is this massive trolling by 360 fanboys that the ps3 fanboys keep saying happened and justifies all the trolling they do now?
...also if you don't like the random stories I pulled up you are free to pick your own articles from back then....but i guarantee none of them will bakc up the claims that 360 fanboys once supposedly dominated this site and trolled all the ps3 articles.

nickjkl5470d ago

pistol
goto google archives type ps3 goto 2006 2007 read comments

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The Evil Within Deserved More: A Great Horror Series Left Behind

The Outerhaven writes: While I hold Bethesda's The Evil Within series as some of the best Survival Horror games available, it's clear that Bethesda has no intention of revisiting the series. While Capcom is still working on its Resident Evil series, I look back at the now-dead survival horror series from Bethesda, wondering why the series was left wide open, and yet still not revisited.

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SimpleSlave18h ago

An OK horror series left behind. It had some great ideas, but it never knew how to play to its strengths. Instead, it came out like just another RE4 clone.

I would love for a third entry to come out, but it needs to learn to lean in on the psychological aspect and move away from the generic "pew pew" ideology at the center of the gameplay loop. It doesn't need to abandon it; it just needs to put it into better context, is all.

Also, try a first-person perspective instead. Too many 3rd-person games with nothing to offer but an avatar taking precious screen space. At least make it an actual option and not that janky-ass mess the second game pretended to have.

Venoxn4g6h ago

Love both games, hope that we will get third game

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During a livestream on his personal Twitch channel, Rob Wiethoff (who voices John Marston in the Red Dead Redemption series) hinted at "exciting news" to be revealed next week. According to Wiethoff, the news will be announced "before Friday".

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jznrpg18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

PS5/Pro/Switch 2 version of RDR2 seems most likely. I’d love a RDR3 but that seems years away

Cacabunga17h ago

Id be happy for just a 60fps patch

OmegaSoldati16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Agreed, but at the same time RD2 came out in 2018. Could it be a remake of Red Dead 1?

Spoiler:

Marston died in the end of Red Dead and Red Dead 2 is set before that. Im curious now. What news could it be?

mkis0079h ago

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Profchaos18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Their contracts are iron clas if they leak anything legit they are threatened with immense legal action.

My hopes for what this is are minimal its probably a meet and greet with the cast

I dont see why they would be involved in a upgraded version of rdr2 when the dialogue hasn't changed

thorstein14h ago

He seems to have been cleared to do this as he purposely picked up the game, streamed it, and made the announcement.

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