Molyneux gagged - Lionhead have kept every promise

Ted Timmins from Lionhead Studios talks to Msxbox world at E3 2010 about the promises that have been made by Peter Molyneux in the past regarding the Fable series.

[TheHater]

Ever Peter Molyneux has admitted that they haven't delivered on some of the features and promised he made about Fable 2 and Fable 3.

[Arnon]

Care to name features they haven't made their promises on with Fable 3?

[SOAD]

I thought they said something about Kinect being involved with Fable 3. So, if that's true, then that's one thing they haven't kept their promise for.

Edit: although, Peter doesn't really promise much. He just mentions ideas and if they work he'll use them and if they don't, they will be dropped.

[Godmars290]

More like he offers tons of ideas as features, something he shouldn't be doing during interviews, which eventually end up being left out for whatever reason. Like character's "dieing" and either still being beaten on or recovering elsewhere and having the bruising mark the character for the rest of the game. That was one of Fable 2's "promises" that didn't wind up in the fianl version.

The man just needs someone more sensible from Lionhead to keep him in line during interviews. Someone will to sit on his chest to shut him up if need be.

[ThanatosDMC]

The scarring was also promised on Fable 1 actually.

I hope they make B&W3 and make more like the first rather than the second. First one was awesome eventhough there were a ton of bugs but the second one was terrible and has a lot of bugs.

[Arnon]

Scarring was a feature in Fable 1 as well as Fable 2. If you didn't heal after a certain period of time, your wounds would turn into scars... I know, my dude was ugly as sin because of them.

[ryuzu]

That's been Molyneux's style since Populous was a hit - he talks up the revolutionary aspects of every game he's involved with, only to have the game be distinctly less than revolutionary.

Despite Molyneux's "over zealous marketing" let's say, I still think it's good to have a few industry guys who aim high - I'm assuming of course, that Molyneux is only guilty of aiming high rather than deliberate misinformation as some people think of him.

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[Pika-pie]

I can remember in an inverview late last year he talked about in Fable 3 you will be able to just sit on your thrown all day. Including in multiplayer mode.. And you can summon your friends to your thrown room and have them tossed in jail.

I would put money on this not reaching he final game... I could just see it now.. 'Oh look, Ive just been tossed in jail..- Followed by disconnect'

[Tony P]

"I thought they said something about Kinect being involved with Fable 3. So, if that's true, then that's one thing they haven't kept their promise for."

I believe he said something closer to "touch will play an important role" and the media made the leap to Natal/Kinect integration.

Not that I believe Lionhead will keep all their promises. They never do. But the games are still good regardless.

[whydoyouask]

Because Peter is a great guy and is always trying to do new things. They just haven't been able to pan out though.

[Bobbykotickrulesz]

Yeah he does seem like a good guy.

What it looks like to me is, he gets so excited, like a kid telling a story, that he adds details that may or may not be true. He has a great imagination and he struggles to keep it all contained into a realistic point of view.

[beans]

Good news indeed even if it's not 100 percent correct. Fable 3 looks gorgeous from the footage I saw at E3. WOW

[cmacdonald]

It looks like Fable 2, and that wasn't gorgeous. Art style was nice though.

[chrisjc]

I could list promised Fable 1-2 additions all day that were never to be found in the game

-The ability to kill a man in Fable 1, and have his child grow up to hunt you down
-The ability to slice a blade of grass, and have it grow back months later when you visit the same area
-The ability to train your left and right biceps independently in Fable II
-Fable 1 was supposed to be open world - Molyneux said this in an interview with Gamespot

How will Fable III disappoint us next?

[ThanatosDMC]

We'll just have to wait for him to talk and whatever he'll tell us about the game we probably shouldnt expect.

[tiamat5]

Peter Molyneux can't be that good a guy. He seems like a blow hard, a liar and an exaggerator to me. He will say anything to get his game to sell. Before he said that Kinect would be intergrated into Fable 3,but now we find out it will have nothing to do with it at all. And then he acts all nice saying 'please enjoy my game' or 'i hope you enjoy my creation'. Then you play it and realise that its the same generic sword and shield type adventure game with pointless choices and life emulation stapled on. I am not the type to hate anyone but the guy is an annoying tool who just won't shut up

[SOAD]

Don't judge a man based on that.

He said in an interview with Game Informer in 2004 that he was really excited about gaming - so excited that he would voice every single idea that came to him for the purpose of committing himself to making sure that idea made it into the game. However, as he said, his studio spends a lot of time trying to integrate those ideas into their game only to realize that they fundamentally do not work or take too much time to do.

With Molyneux I've learned not to expect for him to actually deliver on the countless ideas that he mentions. Notice he doesn't actually promise to do anything. He just says things like, "here's another idea that we've been tinkering with that you might see in our next game."

[rkimoto]

Unless you meet him personally and strike several personal conversations with him, or work for him, it seems that you're unfairly pre-judging him.

Yes, I'm all for personal opinions, but mostly if they're based on some kind of unbiased judgement or proof if otherwise.

Don't be a hater, be a gamer.

PS: If he under-delivered on his promises, that still doesn't make him a bad guy, not even a liar... He's not a politician or marketing guy, he's a very talented developer who just likes to brainstorm in his own interviews.

[cmacdonald]

That's a liar.

[ThanatosDMC]

Bubbles for you.

[Drjft]

Will you just post the full interview already, insteading of posting these one paragraph portions that are blatant grabs for hits.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

didnt happen,alot of concepts that do work honestly,sound so ambitious but when its actually in the game..meh.the whole 'family' wife,kids etc in Fable 2 sounded so elaborate when he spoke of it.in the game though.its meh.he has great concepts though.like when he said,in Fable 2 if the hero dies,maybe you could continue with the heros son

[devilhunterx]

XDF to the rescue.

[NYPunkster]

Looks nice. This is only for the Xbox? If it is enjoy it.

[huzzaahh]

It's exclusive to Xbox 360.*

*And PC.