Zipper: "Socom 2 is the elite Socom"

A recent interview session with CJ Heine, who is the Senior Designer for Socom 4, made a lot of past Socom diehard fans very excited. Fans of the series and critics alike have claimed that Socom 2 was the best competitive online console shooter to date. Socom 3 and Combined Assault just did not have the magic that Socom 2 had, and with Socom Confrontation developed by Slant 6 studios, it cannot really count as a true Socom title.

[KILLERAPP]

Love the Socom series with the exception of confrontation which became better over time, but this game is going to rock, already on my list of must buy…

[Chubear]

..correction, that game was crack

[T9X69]

Hell yea it was, I grew up only playing SOCOM 1 and 2, but SOCOM 2 like you said was crack. I played that game for 6 years and would still be playing it now if my PS3 was backwards compatible, since I don't own a PS2 anymore.

SOCOM 2 IMO was and still is the greatest online game for consoles. The level of competition and skill in that game, makes even games today look like complete trash. Man I wish I could go back to 2003.

[rockleex]

So the "two lines of coke" was true.

[rob6021]

I think the call of duty 4 comparisons were what killed confrontation more than anything else. Lots of people were hooked on that game and SC wasn't up to par graphically, it was very bare-bones - it took a long time to come around. Most likely S4 will stand up to the competition better when it comes out.

[morganfell]

Graphics had nothing to do with it for core SOCOMers. SOCOM has never been about graphics for such players. It's always been about the gameplay.

Confrontation now is the most played game on PSN. And there is a reason. Anyone that hasn't played the game since launch has no idea into what it has evolved.

Just like Slant6 did with classic maps, I want Zipper to bring us Sujo, Sandstorm, Fish Hook, and every core SEAL player's favorite challenge - Enowapi.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Foxhunt and Enowapi are my favorite maps of all time. Fish Hook is good too but damn I spent countless hours on the other two maps.

[AKS]

morganfell

I hadn't played Confrontation for awhile and will have to check it out again. I was blown away by the excellent audio quality but irritated with it's unfriendly interface and design. It was nice to have such a focused, hardcore game, though. I did like what it was, but if it has improved significantly, even better.

[Elwenil]

Confrontation has come around quite a bit from what it was. It's still not "perfect" but that can vary with opinion. Personally I still can't look at Confrontation as a true SOCOM title. Maybe it still stings that the game was shipped without features clearly labeled on the box and Slant 6's initial disregard for the SOCOM community. I don't think Slant 6 was really trying to make the "next SOCOM" as much as they were trying to evolve SOCOM into something more like CoD since that's an easy cash cow. Either way they definitely got lost along the way and seem to have found their way back a bit. Regardless I think Confrontation will be largely abandoned when SOCOM 4 releases.

On the subject of Enowapi, god how I miss that map. That map was a challenge, but not an impossible challenge and it was a blast. I never could get into Sujo, but Foxhunt and Enowapi will always be some of my best times gaming. Let's hope Zipper captures that magic with SOCOM 4 and brings back the classic gameplay with the huge variety in map types, locations and terrain. I want hills, valleys, jungles, wooded areas, open grasslands in addition to the typical urban environments.

[mugoldeneagle03]

Last Bastion was, IMO, the best map I think I've ever played. Sadly, it was only available to HDD owners at the time + you had to find it in OPM, but very worth it. Lots of SOCOMers missed out on the entire experience.

Come to think of it, all of the S2 DLC maps were very good.

[ThanatosDMC]

Serious?! Damn, i should have bought it when it was marked down for $14.99!!!

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

This makes me so excited. I felt like Socom has drifted away from its roots. It's nice that they acknowledge S2 was the best and that they're using it as a benchmark for S4. Now I really can't wait for S4. I was about to write S4 off because of all the unnecessary Move coverage.

[mugoldeneagle03]

but I was a 2 way/all conference starter in HS football since my Sophmore year and I didn't play my senior year because I sat on SOCOM 2 alllllll summer and skipped off season workouts. The game was ridiculously addicting, and probably still by far the game I've logged most hours on in my lifetime thus far.

That said I don't want Zipper to try and copy S4 or try to replicate it to match S2, I want it to be it's own game, but Zipper should without a doubt incorporate some of the features/little things that made SOCOM 2 so great

[riderofpl4gues]

i hope ur right

[Vicophine]

Socom 2 was the best socom.

[MIDDLE_FINGER_U]

Yes it was

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

It was the best hands down. We need a Socom 2 port to PSN!! I've been asking this a million times already. lol

[red2tango]

When I was a kid my mom would bitch at me because I played that game for hours. If it wasn't for SOCOM, PS2's online would be non-existent.

[Colonel-Killzone]

Indeed it is needs to be remade.

[Evil_Ghosty]

I prefered Socom 1 online over Socom two only because
of the health bar I didn't like. However everything else
about socom two was better. If only they had Abandoned during the
day instead of night!

Hopefully Socom 4 will bring back the Magic of S1 and S2.

[xHarvey]

I just hope that the health regeneration is only for singleplayer and not multiplayer.

[telekineticmantis]

Socom is such a unique shooter that's why I keep in high regards no other multiplayer has made me feel like I have a purpose like socom.

[A change in the wind]

Socom 4 looks to be just another shooter. If they can make it like the original Socoms, I would be thrilled.

[DeltaZ3R05]

Socom 2 was a beast! Hope 4 can reach and surpass

[JAMurida]

More like "SOCOM 2 is the best SOCOM"

Too bad we will never experience the time on SOCOM 2 ever again...... or will SOCOM 4 prove me wrong?

[ExposingLames]

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[ThaOutKast]

On Zipper's "ZipLine" Podcast they mentioned that Sony originally wasn't going to remaster GOW1 and 2 until they got enough demand for it on polls. Hopefully the same will work for Socom.

[rob6021]

Bad thing is, confrontation was more like the Socom 2 remake we were hoping for. Confrontation didn't have the polish of S2 for its time, had only a few maps, and disappointed cause it was a different dev and lowbudget. I'm really hoping they'd port the old Socom maps from confrontation over to S4, but don't see it happening.

Socom 4 is a new direction they've stated it before. (It seems to have a cover system). I did like how MAG turned out so I am hopeful. I just really don't want to see respawn the focus, or 32 player matches - good to see he knows map variety is a big deal.

[xc7x]

socom 1 was better technically [graphics / physics] but socom 2 was very fun and had more varied maps.

[peeps]

yeh i believe the gameplay in socom 1 was slightly better but socom 2 just added so so much. there were a lot of little improvements such as the addition of chat in the lobbies, bigger weapon selections, health bars

anyway hope it can live up to the socom glory days but theres 1 thing that may stop this from happening... maps made for game modes.

socom 1+2 had great competitive maps because each map was made for only 1 game mode. You could argue that it's better to have a map where you can play every game mode, but by making a map specifically for a single game mode, you ensure that it's well balanced

also socom 1+2 focused on 8v8 max which is ideal for the type of game socom is. I played 16v16 once or twice on socom:C and it just does not work unless it's respawn, but who wants to play socom respawn??

[ATLGAMER]

Was the best..people just lack the balls to move forward..Socom confrontation was not that good though...but i hear now iti s

[Colonel-Killzone]

I highly doubt there will be a remake though honestly if you look at the sales the best selling Socom would be the original. I believe this is because people playing the socom series were all playing different ones. I remember I was playing socom 3 and people were still playing the original and also Socom 2. I highly doubt they will do a remake version. Its a selling franchise but the community is lacking indeed lots of people claimed they will never buy another one again after confrontations. Hopefully Socom 4 does well in quality and sales.

[LevDog]

SOCRACK.. I played this game nonstop fooooooooor years.... The reason it was soo good was because of various maps.. It didnt have just one style.. You had Snow, Jungle, City, and then mixes of each one.. Fluid controls.. The Control setup was flawless.. You could change guns and go to nades quick.. and it wasnt just hit a button and throw a nade anywhere.. You could aim it and change power quickly.. it had PMN mines.. Prolly the most frustrating but awesome weapon in the game.. It became a game in itself just to see how good you could hide them and not kill your teammates.. Also The maps werent over saturated with debris like in slant 6s ps3 version.. Socom 2 didnt have armors or this or that.. everyone could run the same speed had the same armor and no sprint.. it was as balanced as you could get..

Your a socom fan if you remember wall sliding

[SG-17]

Too bad the hit detection sucked hard or else it would have been the best online game of last generation.

[TheHardware]

was as addictive as any mmo....it was almost 10 hours a day for me...