IGN | Halo: Reach & Halo 3 Compared

IGN compares Halo Reach against Halo 3 in this video

[SUP3R]

Can't wait for the full game!

[Traveler]

Halo Reach looks far better.

[blitz0623]

Well it has to be better or Bungie wouldn't even consider making the game.

[Chubear]

I still dont' get why people keep saying that and why these comparisons keep showing up. I mean, shouldn't Halo Reach have vid comparisons with other high end FPSs instead of it's predecessors?

Isn't Reach SUPPOSED to look better than Halo3? It's not like after 2.5yrs Reach will come out looking identical to Halo3 is it?

The thing is, most people outside the halo bubble look at halo online MP and they don't really see sequel like improvements for a FPS that sells far more than others. Instead they see an gloss upgrade from Halo2-halo3-haloODST-Reach and not really a proper jump in quality btw these titles

[SaberEdge]

Actually if you had actually played the game you would know that it is a pretty big improvement over the first game. The lighting, textures, explosions, and other effects are all significantly improved.

Digital Foundry wrote about many of these improvements here: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

It looks damn good to me.

[BiggCMan]

armor lock over dead body = POWER TEABAG hahaha that looked incredibly fun.

[kaveti6616]

Why would Halo fans compare Reach to anything other than Halo 3? I consider Halo's multiplayer to be the best multiplayer on consoles, so naturally my interest in Reach is for it to be better than Halo 3. There's a reason why Halo 3 is one of the most played games on XBL.

[cyborg6971]

I'm gonna have to start pimping out my wife before this comes out to get a 360. And chubear your right. If your doing a comparison do it with other top looking fps's.

[Demons Souls]

Hard to tell the difference.

[Montrealien]

Well Reach is Halo, just a better looking Halo, and watching it in a small video like that does not do it justice. Have you actually tried the beta?

[sak500]

I've tried beta and looks almost the same as the original halo from 5 years back. they are the laziest devs ever who just change couple of game modes in every iteration but using the same assests from years past. There are other devs who have really overhauled their games jumping from past gen to current gen, whereas halo looks about the same from the orginal xbox.

I played it like for an hour and gave up on the kiddy graphics and gameply. I wont buy this crp.

[SixZeroFour]

yea sak, cause everyone can get everything they need to know about a game and the devs behind it from a 1 hour playthrough with the BETA of the game

and bungie are one of the most dedicated devs out there, that support their game to the fullest upon and beyond release

you must be in for a new prescription cause the goggles you have on right now must not be correcting your vision well, take your feud with MS elsewhere and leave bungie out of it

on topic, if you actually PLAY the game, and go back to theater and actually look around at the explosions, environment, character and weapon models, you WILL see a vast improvement in graphics, but its not all about graphics anyways, beta alone has so much to it already, cant wait for final game

[Therealspy03]

but the ps3 trolls are the same immature kids they've always been.

i been playin the halo reach beta non stop the last 5 days and i can verify that it's much more solid and the new armor abilities really change the game dynamic.

who really cares what the ps3 fanboys think anyway? they will criticize anything that isn't ONLY on their system regardless of quality...that's nothing new. facts are...minor graphical differences aside, when MAYBE 5k ppl play uncharted 2 online or maybe 3k player killzone in a 24 hour period, halo sees over a million. it's that way for a very good reason...and it's not cuz those games are anywhere close to as good as they want to claim they are.

i'm perfectly happy to see them out in droves trolling 360 articles, cuz it's proof that they are nothin but jealous, immature children. period.

sad thing is, i used to play on psn more than live. but every time i mentioned a 360 game on psn they'd chew me out for 5 minutes and call me a newb. so i stopped using a headset...and eventually just stopped getting on cuz the community is JUST like it is here...annoying and childish.

and i love how they constantly focus on graphics. in case you didn't notice...we do not care at all about your flawed perspective on graphics. nobody does unless you ONLY own a ps3. there is nothing impressive about those "graphical" games you all hype up. get over yourselves. you didn't make the games, you didn't make the system. you're just fanboys. it should be about great games, not about convincing yourself your dedication isn't completely wasted. halo reach, so far, is a great game.

[lowcarb]

Well said and I couldn't agree with you more.

[insomnium]

It was the x360-fans who brought this situation upon theirselves. All they did was laugh at "ps3 has no game" and talked down on the CELL's power based on bad ports of the early days. Do you really not remember this?

Ontopic I like the improvements and the credit system. Seems like you can take many different approaches and strategies based on the configurations of you armor etc. I don't have a x360 but Halo Reach might just be the reason for me to pick one up. I won't be paying for gold though.

[Jrome]

Lol you forgot "/rant". In all honesty though, I think a lot of these so called "ps3 fanboys" are still on the defensive side from the early years of the ps3 when all the "360 fanboys" were getting on them for all the promises sony made, lack of games, average graphics. However, the tides have turned and now you have the "360 fanboys" on the defensive and the "ps3 fanboys" on the offensive. In the end, I agree with you, it's all about the games and IMO Halo Reach looks like it's going to be a great game (what I feel halo 3 should have been based on the gameplay elements:customizable armor, credit system etc).

To the ps3 fanboys be humble, it was foolish to doubt the playstation franchise in the first place. To the 360 fanboys be humble, we all know microsoft still has a powerful collection up it's sleeves.

/peace :p

[Sez]

@jrome
Actually it's been the same in the early years of the ps3. When i'm came to this site sonyfanboys was still doing the samething they are doing now. But they where saying things like " MS is going to drop the 360 in 4 years just like xbox" or " ps2 sold x amount and xbox/Gamecube sold x amout less". So yeah this war has been going on since last gen.There just more upset that Sony went from number 1 with the ps1/2 to number 3 behind the very two Sony dominated last gen. I left system wars because before any of the current gen console started to release they where doing the samething there. So I came here.

Ontopic: I'm enjoying the beta. I can't wait for the final version to release. Playing it fit yourself you can Clearly see a big difference from halo 3 or ODST. This game is a must buy for me day 1.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

Or did Sak and I just seriously share a same sentiment? Halo: Reach looks like a re-skinned Halo 3 with a couple new modes here and there. Frame rate still isn't locked at 30, resolution's still below my standard, and just in general, nothing's overhauled to the point of a true sequel. I'll wait and see what Bungie could do with Activision before I decide to dismiss them completely.

[Megaton]

Noticed that too. I think sak bumped his head.

Haven't played the beta yet, so I can't comment on it. I wanna try it, but not so bad that I'll go buy ODST.

[-Alpha]

I love how the first comment got 5 disagrees for saying he can't wait for the full game.

As for the graphics, I honestly can't tell the difference technically. Artistically Reach tries to be more gritty and less colorful. Honesty, I don't give a damn. They aren't miles better but I only care for the Halo gameplay. Nobody on the forums is complaining about graphics they are concerned mostly with gameplay and making sure its balanced, which is much more important. I love how nobody but PS3 fans care about the graphics of Halo. Halo has always been about gameplay and that's what a good game should pride itself on most.

Anyways, I can't wait for this game. The MP is really fun. Invasion is great. I'd say that it's really well balanced already, though minor tweaks may be needed.

[insomnium]

Read my comment #2.1.6.

[insomnium]

Disagree. I was here and I know how things went. I'm sorry you are too immature and don't have the backbone to accept the facts.

The same BS went on for well over 2 years. I'm not agreeing to the ps3 fanboys though. I don't want to see fanboyism. It sickens me. However I do understand why some ps3 fans are out there laughing at the x360 fans.

Can I get some disagrees to this reply also.

Alpha I've been reading your posts for a while and I would really like hear you take on this.

[Sez]

...wrong post

[Bnet343]

lol good video, the narrator was great.

[bviperz]

If you're in the BETA, it is loads of fun!

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

No more Dual Wielding :(

[Obama]

double post

[Montrealien]

it's a better looking Halo, I have seen in in action on my TV and I can assure you, it is a better looking halo, and the art style it the same. Have you tried it? What's you gamer tag?

[Obama]

Graphic wise I don't see a big difference. Prove me wrong.

The upgrading aspect is pretty interesting though. More fps should have this kind of upgrade option.

[kaveti6616]

The style is the same. That's why the game looks similar.

[palaeomerus]

Graphic wise I see a big difference. Prove ME wrong.

[Plancy]

I'm pretty sure the Halo: Reach beta graphics are a little better than Halo 3 complete, I looked thoroughly ;). I like that it has a small amount of noise in the graphics. It's a better game, either way, IMO that is.

PS. BTW is there like only 2 maps in the beta, I've played nothing but sword base and powerhouse, haven't seen any others and i've played like 40 games and all game modes.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Noise in the graphics? Explain?

[Plancy]

Actually, just look real close, you'll see what I mean. It makes the game look a whole lot better.

[COINTELPRO]

The Invasion gametype adds a new map. So right now it has 3 maps in total.

[drzmvp554]

Halo 3 looks like crap after playing Reach all week

[SixZeroFour]

you should play CE after playing REACH for a week, lol, youll definitely see the difference

[Silly gameAr]

You're right IGN. I think my face just melted. :). Halo Halo Halo Reach!

[tuglu_pati]

Looks better, weapon and characters model have a lot more polygons, particle effects are way better. Graphics are vastly improved.

[Hank Hill]

Wasn't Reach suppose to have a brand new engine?

[SaberEdge]

It has larger environments, more advanced particle effects, motion blur, much better lighting and shadows, better textures and it all comes together to look substantially better than the previous Halo games. It's a ton of fun too, which is the most important factor.

[m23]

This game is a good looking game, and it's extremely fun. I've been playing nothing else since the beta released. Invasion is not all that great since half the people on your team don't do what they are supposed to. But overall, this beta is great.

[Arnon]

The beta is ridiculously fun, and anyone who has actually played it on an HD screen can see the graphical overhaul... not to mention, it's still a beta.

[Hallmark Moment]

Beta of multi player. The kids in here clearly have not seen both games on hardware on HDTVs. Doesn't matter what they truth is they will never admit it until enough media makes their lies and forced BS seem fanatical.

[Chubear]

For so long halo MP online is hailed by it's fanbase as the Meca of all online FPS gaming and I have never understood this at all. For some reason, halo's "fun" online is supposed to transcend all other fun on ANY FPS online and all I've seen from halo is, yes a fun MP experience but also a very easy, friendly control game and nothing more engrossing than many other high end FPSs.

I mean, forget auto-aim, in halo the recticle virtually sticks to your target. There's no sim kick back to weapons and the gameplay has remained this decade old style since forever it seems with little insignificant improvements or progression.

Now we see halo implementing so many actual gaming features and mechanisms (not just that mundane "iz teh features!!!" talk) that we've seen so many other FPSs implement in the past decade and it's being made to seem as if it's new and fresh.

I just don't understand halo, I don't understand what makes it "godly" to some gamers. It's been a decade and I still have no clue how this game garnered the rep it has. Simply baffling to me. The only thing I can think of that makes some sort of logical sense is, marketing for this game in it's initial stages was done masterfully.

I just will never understand halo.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Well to be fair I hate Pokemon, Digimon, Dragonball z, Final Fantasy, pretty much anything from Japan and other gamers love it. I don't get why anybody wants to play a guy who looks like a chick who runs around a moronic looking world with black dudes with chickens in their hair that they conveniently call "chocobos" with a lame ass fighting style that consists of "Press A" and wait til the computer decides how well the attack worked for you. To each their own.

[SaberEdge]

Same could be said about any other game. I have a friend who hates the God of War games and I don't agree with him at all but he thinks they are boring and simplistic and he hates the Kratos character. Not everybody is going to agree. Just know that you are in the minority and move along. Why do you care so much if other people love it?

As for your comment about the aim in Halo, I can't say I agree. I play Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Halo 3, Gears of War and a lot of other shooters and I honestly don't see that much different in the aiming. Subtle differences that you adapt to, but Halo 3's aiming isn't any easier for me that Killzone 2's, for example.

[Erazerhead1976]

I realise Halo does have a lot of fans, but it also has to be one of the most overrated series of games to date. It's a fun FPS, but it also hasn't evolved at the pace of comparable games. A lot of what has now been implemented into Reach has been done countless times before in most other FPS games - only when Halo does it, it's considered revolutionary!?

I don't really get it.

It's a shame really, because i'd like to get involved. I've tried to like it, but it's just kinda bland.

[Rowsdower]

Halo was the first PC like shooter on the consoles, many folks never gamed on the pc, so something like halo was new to them.

the with Halo 2 we get online multiplayer on the console, the likes which again many console gamers had never seen before.

so for a whole generation of console gamers Halo introduced into a world of gaming they had never experienced on a console.

It may not be revolutionary, but it knows what its doing, and the storyline is something that does prohibit it from being played by any age.

so i agree in the context of the entire history of gaming Halo may be nothing special, but there is a reason why its so beloved.

Fun.

[FragMnTagM]

All the weapons that kick, have kickback. I don't think you have ever given it a proper chance, as you are unaware of its features.

[webeblazing]

i like halo, but it is true the add stuff other games had or techs and the fans act like its new. still cant wait for reach

[PS360PCROCKS]

From all those changes I'm a lil less excited now...I haven't tried the beta but some of the stuff they changed is what I liked about Halo most. Rechargeable armor is one, meleeing no longer kills unless you down the shields? I dunno their was a few others also. I need to try it for myself I suppose. How do you guys like it? Is it significantly different than Halo 3? I thought Halo 3 was UNBELIEVABLY fun online.

[FragMnTagM]

enough to get you to a health pack if you survive a shootout. It is nearly identical, to Halo three, the only difference is there are blocks of health under your recharge bar, and when they are diminished it is easier for you to get killed after your shields are down. That is all. It does not take away from the game play in any way.

The melee works much the same as it did in Halo 3, as you had to wear someone down a bit before you could perform a beat down. A hit from behind is still a one hit kill, but if you hold down the melee button, you get a cool assassination and it is different depending on where the other player is located relative to you.

The game is a blast to play, and the invasion game type with Spartans vs. Elites is a lot of fun.

Screw the haters, this game is going to own Christmas.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Ok great thanks man, good reply I really appreciate that. bubbles for you.

[Shendow]

Just because some adds KZ2 doesn't mean their a PS3 user or all are like that, that is like saying all gamers are fat lazy people.

I own both systems, well not PS3 for now an Halo Reach my not look as good as KZ2 but this is just a beta an it can look better later on, only reason I had a 360 is mostly because of Halo and I collect gaming systems, already all Sega systems an most Nintendo.

So I wouldn't go blaming all PS3 users, because that doesn't make you any better.

[Shendow]

Someone disagrees that Halo Reach my not look as good as KZ2 now but could look like it later?

Don't care, I in joy Halo Reach an that fact I got a pic on my cell phone of me an a teammate beating up on one guy. I kind of feel sorry for that person because he got a knife in his neck from me, while my teammate smash his head with a hammer.

The timing was awesome.

[Megan Fox]

Halo Reach looks a lot better.

[boysenberry]

One word, OVERRATED. Halo : Reach will have slightly better graphics than Halo 3, but the online will still be as boring as ever. I'm still renting it for the SP, and I just might buy it when it hits $30.

[X_GAMER_X]

Epic game. It can not get more epicer. Its the epic of the epicest

[bjornbear]

but then again, why didn't Halo 3 get this look from the get go? =(

[webeblazing]

i say cause other devs made them step they game up gameplay matters but theres nothing wrong wit wanting the game to look the best. seem like they listen to ps fanbois cause ms fanbois would of been happy if it was the same as halo3 from what the comments i been reading