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Why PlayStation Move Will Beat Project Natal And The Wii

GameBrit writes: "The Nintendo Wii has shown the masses that motion controls are popular. Not just for those who already class gaming as a hobby, but also for people who have never even played or enjoyed a games console before. This has led to the Wii being the current leader in sales followed by the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Naturally both Microsoft and Sony have seen this success and now want a piece of the motion based pie. This has culminated in Project Natal, a camera based option, and the PlayStation Move combination from Sony, featuring a camera alongside Wiimote and Nunchuck style devices. So with both vying for the crown of the motion controlled world, which one has what it takes to topple the Wii? My money is on Sony's offering, and this is why."

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qface645156d ago (Edited 5156d ago )

i don't see it happening

dangert125156d ago

Yes no 1 would have a wii unless its the zelda mario etc fans
and natal lagged up plus a RROD PRONE 360 would of killed ms prematurely this gen

but thats not the case so know i think

some people will see 'move' and think im not buying a ps3 and then move or hw mch they will cost bundled when its liturly a wii

project natal will seem new to casual no mater what the ps3 eyetoy can do its never been marketed in the sense natal will be or described as a console

mabreu5156d ago

It's like playing Gran Turismo 5 with a racing wheel and foot pedals. Sure it cost around $100 bucks but it's worth it. Also, look at Rock Band and all of the equipment needed to play it. Motion control doesn't need to be released with a system like the Wii, It can do just fine as an optional way of playing current games.

WIIIS15155d ago

My prediction is that Move will be the LEAST successful of the 3, for the simple reason that it is the most optional device of the 3 console systems. For Wii, the whole console concept is defined by the Wii Mote, so the success of the console will as much ensure the success of the Wii Mote as vice versa. Natal is a periphery to the 360, but it appears to be a dedicated system to motion control games as much as it is also an optional device, and there will be games designed specially for Natal rather than just support it, or at least that is my impression. Move however seems to be simply an optional accessory, and if so, I don't see why people will buy into it.

Christopher5155d ago

These type of articles are only intended to flame the idiotic console war and nothing else. There's nothing we can say that will truly shine a light on who will 'win' or if anyone will really 'win' in the end, other than Nintendo who are already winners.

I refuse to give these sites any hits for putting up articles that really have no purpose or use other than twisting words to get people to comment on them on their site.

Montrealien5155d ago

it just is, don`t do it kids.

Death24945155d ago

this and then reply on this article.

Danny Dan5155d ago

Playstation Move could overcome Natal as far as motion functionality goes and even sales. The way I'm thinking of it is pretty logical, the PS Move isn't revolutionary but it does base off something already successful, the Wii. First thing is first, A LOT of Wii games are going to be ported to the PS3, quickly try to upgrade the graphics and boom! More games on the PS3. After a while... games will start to be created FIRST on the PS3 then ported to the Wii. So now all 3rd party companies working on only Nintendo platforms will bring their games to the PS3, making the Wii not only graphically obsolete but their "exclusive games" will all be multiplatform, leaving only Nintendo games exclusive. This alone will greatly increase sales for the Move and all Sony has to do is just sell the peripheral. Capitalizing off of Nintendo and stealing market share. Sony wins at its goal.

Natal is unproven, we don't know much about it and we haven't seen any working games, so I really can't say much about it but just be optimistic about its potential. Assuming it works like its intended, it can be great but there's so much doubt, hardly any news, a developer speaking out negatively, it all kind of worries me. Who knows, MS can really surprise us this E3, and just drop a bomb on everyone.

King_of _the_Casuals5154d ago

What a classic Fanboy article! But as I may agree that Move will be the best of the bunch tech wise....it does not have a chance to win. Why???

1.It has NOOO Hype. Since it was first introduced the Media has labeled the MOVE as a Wii wanabe. You and I may know it's not but the casual gamer won't/ They'll see wand, nunchuk, videogame = Wii. Compare that to Natal which is being promoted as this NEW great technology and it stands no chance. Like it or not but the Mass Media LOVES Natal and there excitement will generate sales. Just like Hype worked for the Wii.

2. It has NOOO Market. Our PS3 is a technological monster...better then the other 2 systems. But with all these Bells and whistles came...a higher price point. So when it came time for parents to buy a system for there kids, they chose the cheaper system. And Motion controls are aimed at kids and casual gamers....who wouldn't pay that much more for a PS3. We mock the 360 about "Xbox Live" being full of kids. Well these kids are the ones that are gonna get motion control...not us hardcore gamers. It's not for us!

3. It will be the most expensive. Wii already has an established share of the market so there prices are now cheaper. Natal is a camera and will not require any additional control purchases. But MOVE is the newest tech and will require Wand and Nunchuk purchases. Matter of fact, fighting games will require 2 WANDS (not nunchuks) WANDS! To fight another person in front of your tv you will need 4 WANDS!!! now that's expensive!

4. Sony doesn't know how to market.

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Fierce Musashi5156d ago (Edited 5156d ago )

You see, these simple motion controls is what gets the eye of the casual/non-gamer broader audience. Keep in mind, they don't care for power if all they are looking for is a simple gaming experence. When it comes down to it, the Wii is the way to go for them when prices start getting compared. Why pay extra for pretty much the exact same experence? If (IF) Sony is indeed trying to steal the Wii's thunder then they are going to have to give the PS3 a price cut as well as bundle the controller and a game or two in order to compete, considering that the controller (to my knowing) is sold seprately.

If you started gaming and were just looking for a machine to pick up and play, would you buy a high price console as well as the motion add-ons or the more accessible console at a far lower price?

dannylilley5156d ago (Edited 5156d ago )

A very good point indeed and one which outlines the reason why the Wii has been so successful so far.
On the other hand the PlayStation 3 could offer a full package of entertainment i.e. motion controls for the whole family (with the casual games), a hardcore gaming console for those who want to sit down to play games with a standard controller, a blu-ray player for movie watching and of course PlayTV + BBCiPlayer for TV watching. A higher price for sure but adding all that in it could satisfy a wider range of uses.

ChickeyCantor5155d ago (Edited 5155d ago )

"Keep in mind, they don't care for power if all they are looking for is a simple gaming experence. When it comes down to it, the Wii is the way to go for them"

I think you are wrong.
Its not that they dont care for great looking games and the things it can do.
Its Nintendo who captured them with their marketing.
I wont be surprised if they see Move and say : " Wait isn't that like the Wii? ".

Nintendo is leader with the motion controls, People associate Motion controls to Nintendo.
If sony did it first and they succeeded people would say " casual gamers dont care for SD GFX".

And anyone loves simple games, thats why MW is selling so well...

Fierce Musashi5154d ago (Edited 5154d ago )

The controller itself as well as the primary the controls are simple to understand, making the experience easy and accessible for anyone. I'm not saying marketing has little to do with anything, rather what gets the eye of them and is more accessible.

The Wii console comes with the Wiimote as it's primary controller and a game, all while remaining the least expensive. The simple controls, along with other elements, makes it the most accessible. Are they, just looking for a simple accessible gaming experience from a home console, serious going to pay more just to have better graphics? I'm not saying the broader audience aren't always going to see it like that, some might want extra features and what not, but the majority of them wouldn't really care.

I know they are the leader when it comes to MC. They made it the primary controls. The move is obviously going to get compared to the Wiimote by anyone who knows anything about the Wii, because it's final design looks clearly like somewhat of a rip.

Michael Myers5156d ago

if playstation move beats natal the wii will be next, but im not for motion...to purchas a hd gaming system like the ps3 for motion control would be...insane

matey5156d ago (Edited 5156d ago )

look guys the ps3 want doesnt even do as many things as the wiimote the wiimote has infared camera in the controller itself and can detect where it is pointing all the time with out the need for IR,or the sensor bar silent hill/fatal frame 4 uses this for the tourch plus the wii is 1on1 accurate for IR pointing in fps games ign said that the socom ps3 demo was poor and has way too much lag i dont think the early wii attemts have any lag what so ever infact u can even fine tune the experience on the fps controls to suit ie conduit,metroid prime 3 has the best controls because its 60frames per second,plus the ps3 wand looks stupid and can only be detected through the camera the wiimote is leaps and bounds above this ps3 controller ign even said that the ps3 1st party attemts at the show were not even on par with 3rd partys 1st gen attemts on the wii that says the wiimote is better the new tigerwoods has truview on the wii because its using the motionplus and the infared camera as far as i know this mode isnt present in the ps3 version due to technical issues sorry guys but the truth at the moment is that the wiimote is alot more advanced and SONY and MICROSOFT are finding out the hard way fact lets see how tigerwoods 2011 turns out that should prove my point that the wii has the superior motion controls lets see the wiimote has alot going on and has proved itself in every sport game out there even PES 2009/2010 have amazing controls made possible by the wiimote with out motion plus yes alot of people forget the wiimote alone is very powerful look at the original wii sports bowling,tennis,golf,ect wow is the expression i heard out of peoples mouths when playing this can ps3wand do the same i dont think so natal has no chance so forget that device there is very little promise for ps3 wand

cyborg69715156d ago

Surely you can't be serious the wiimote more powerful. Motion is for old folks and noobs. But to quote ign is stupid socom was an alpha build and lag was minimal and can be worked out.

kneon5155d ago

The design of the wiimote is backwards in that it is very easy for the wiimote to point away from the TV which causes the Wii to lose track of the position. The Move is designed the other way around so it doesn't matter which way the wand is pointing, it will still be detected as long as you are in the field of view of the PSeye. And if you aren't in the field of view then I guess it doesn't matter as you probably can't see the TV anyway.

n4gno5154d ago

You are leaving in a world of illusions and dreams and repeat bullcraps you are believing, ps move is the perfect wii controler nintendo has never had, simple fact (1/1, no battery, etc)

matey5156d ago

the wii will deliver the full gaming experience because it will have classic pro for games like tatsunoko vs capcom,pro evo,smash bros brawl,ect and has the best motion controls for games like ZELDA wii ect plus ur in the land of nod if u think that any game ps3 put out will top Wii ZELDA with full motion plus support,plus online is getting a boost this year with moster hunter 3 the online has been put next to world of warcraft yes try reading what devs say about there games the online in that game will be full on more in line with a pc infastructure read this in official nintendo magazine and capcom have some more games that are as big as MH3 coming to wii this year maybe even better graphics because they now have wii version of MT Framework

n4gno5154d ago

You are for sure a casual gamer in a delusional world, not a single real gamer can be satisfied with the mediocre motion control and really poor library of the wii, when ps3 has the best games, and way more games, since 2 years and for a long time, like the ps2 vs gamecube was (i don't even talk about graphic gap, technic gap, variety and adult games, bluray, and all the stuff the wii can't compete, it's a nice toy, in a different league)

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar956d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal956d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein956d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS957d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721957d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever957d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar956d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics957d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos957d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils957d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein956d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr957d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721957d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard957d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever957d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal957d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal956d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH957d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin956d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290957d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo956d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC956d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy957d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa957d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins957d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos957d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever957d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC957d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever957d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen959d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad959d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007959d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia959d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992959d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992959d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad959d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex959d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992959d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic959d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad959d ago (Edited 959d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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