Ironstarmovement writes: "People have questioned if PlayStation 3 had a "true system seller", most of the greatest games on PS3 have had good launches."
What planet are you living on? It certainly isn't Earth.
MGS4 was a Huge System Seller, especially in Japan.
FF13 was a Huge System Seller in Japan, and it will sell some PS3's in Europe & The United States.
God of War III will be a huge System Seller in Europe & The United States.
Gran Turismo 5 will sell more consoles than probably all those put together. GT5 will sell more systems in Japan, than Halo Reach will sell systems on a Worldwide scale.
Uhm... Haven't I seen that comment several times when it comes to God of War III already? I have a clear memory of reading that exact same and lame comment. Besides, from what I can remember, some of those games actually managed to boost the PS3 sales :-/ .
I come from watching the GTTV show less than 5 minutes ago sine I didnt have the time before and though it looks good there is absolutely NO WAY ON PLANET EARTH that its the best looking game.
Previous PS3 games like UC2 or KZ2 look way better and there are futur 360 games like Alan Wake that look better too.
I remember saying a couple of weeks ago that there was A LOT of forced hype for GOW3 graphics and people were saying "its only the old demo" bla bla bla. Now that I've seen the final version...well it STILL doesn't look as good as people are making it out to be.
I think some people are simply desperate to hype its graphics for I'm not sure what reason.
Not saying it looks bad, but not as good as sony fans are saying thats for sure.
edit: @below: yeah I know but its very representative of what happens in the EU for games like GOW3. There would be a bigger difference for games like car sims between USA and EU.
You do understand that NPD tracks only SOME north american retailers? Ignoring the rest of the world won't make it go away, it will just provide you with a distorted picture of reality.
are you drunk cold?? seriously...this game looks even better than cgi...and you compare it to alan wake?? what the...it was supposed to be fun? what you just said?...look at kratos face, look at titans look at the scale...the only game i can remember with better graphics its crysis in max settings!
How can you POSSIBLY say that looks better than CGI ? Come on!
Since a PS3 owner would NEVER admit that a 360 game looks better than a PS3 game, thats ok, lets compare it to PS3 games then.
UC2 and KZ2 look BETTER than GOW3.Period. GOW3 looks good but just no way was that revolutionary or anything. If it looked just a bit worse, I think it would even look disappointing.
When the game releases and the hype drops a bit I'm sure nobody will be saying such crazy things.
@DARKNIKON: here are all the latest big GOW3 articles. I'm not in single one of them. So I dont know what the heck you are talking about. Since you are a liar on my ignore list you go. Geez I dont even have the worst trolls on ignore but I cant stand liars.
@Cold 2000 damage control at its finest dude you're pathetic
look at you posting a 100post per second "GOW3 lloks good but just no way was that revolutionary or anything." you're so Fu*ked up you even cant spell "looks" right and how in hell GOW3 isn't revolutionary when there is a f*cking titan or two (that is 100000X bigger than you) in the background in real time game play and still manages to get a very impressive CGI game play graphics ??
and why do you doubt that GOW3 is going to move consoles? Heck do all what you wana do and bookmark what ever webpage you want this game IS going to move consoles no matter how you spin things up
want to know why ? this is the first GOW game on the PS3 if any GOW fan still plays on his PS2 and looking for a next-gen GOW he'll most likely shift to next get and buy he a PS3
Cold, you are in every GOW3 article, you watched the GTTV GOW3 blowout and you come here to try and downplay the game because you are so jealous.. Try and compare the visuals from GOW3 and Alan Wake and see what happens. Face Palm.. *And the most anticipated game of 2010 is.. Alan Wake* I don't remember it happening like that do you? Troll some where else loser.
I see you are out of bubbles. You are trying so hard aren't you.
Cold you do know that GTTV vids are always in Sub-HD 960*540 resolution don't you... And all the pics posted by various sites are just taken from there....
You are in for some serious awakening when GOW3 lands... The game looks as good as or even better than PS2 GOW2 CGI which is saying something.... Seriously I know some people here are fanboys, but after seeing that ingame CGI of GOW3 and the scale of the Titans, I can safely say this game is as good looking as the best PS3 games if not even better. Not to mention that the game maintains a 60FPS (changes in combat, but still it's not capped at 30 like UC2 or KZ2).
I don't know what to say... There is no difference between the Cut-scenes and gameplay and the cut scenes look as pretty as that of UC2 or KZ2.... Even the Sub-HD video looks phenomenal!!!
All exclusive games are somewhow system sellers as they add quality and unique titles to the game library of a console.
I know people that got a PS3 when Everybody's Golf (Hot Shots) came out, that game has a hardcore following in Europe kust like Singstar or Buzz...I know people that got a PS3 as soon as MLB The Show 09 was out...other recently due to Demon's Souls...mostly in any genre PS3 has a AAA game that you can only find there and in many cases the best one in that genre.
I think SONY doesn't have a game that sales 500 K consoles but games that sales 50-100 K in silence during the year, I think they are aware of that and it has always worked well for them and of course its customers. they get variation and new franchises all the time.
Gow3 will probably move around 80-120K consoles during the first weeks after relase...MGS4 moved around 200-250K if I recall right.
All in all the PS3 exclusives library is impressive and keeps growing to a peace that lets clear why Worldwide dev. studios is what you need and not a 1 year headstart...
all PS3 games exclusives keeps moving HW, since day 1 no one purchases the PS3 because it is the cheaper option but because of the franchises they already had even before the price cut.
This coming from a guy who has forza3 as his avatar. Forza being the ultimate flop and especially after talking all that noise about GT5. Go back to promoting Alan Wake or Halo:Reach which has been milked to death.
Gears of War 2: wiki
"As of May 7, 2009, Gears of War 2 had sold over 5 million units world wide, bringing the franchise total to 11 million units sold."
Cold 2000's commnent: ----- "I'm going to bookmark this page and promise to post it when the next NPD comes out so better edit your comments while you still can"
@cold2000: What a SAD and PATHETIC life you have there :)
God will you people stop saying this. I have seen this so many time....OMG...OMG...Killzone 2 is going to sell so many systems....OMG....OMG LBP is going to sell so many systems.....OMG....OMG MGS4 is going to sell so many consoles....OMG...OMG...Unchar ted 2 is going to sell so many consoles. And it never happens. The only game that might push alot of consoles is GT5 plain and simple.
But the only problem is that every time I go to walmart and such they are sold out of PS3s. Sony is gonna have to open a new plant or expand the one they have to meet the ever growing demand. They have the games, the price, the console that does it all. Now they just need to get that console on the streets asap.
So far you've bookmarked almost every N4G article. How much time do you have on your hands? Are you looking for a triumphant day on a forum to boost your self-esteem or something? Must be a sad life for you, especially when you don't know how wrong you will when God of War 3 drops. It's the only game besides MAG that 360 players that I know personally are jealous over. My entire school wants God of War 3, but only a sleet few have a PS3. What does that tell you? They've certainly acquired a reputation in the industry.
after all the games the sony die hards claim to be xbox killers ( lair,LBP, haze,mgs4,killzone 2,resistance 1 and 2,mag etc) that this one is something to brag about and def will move systems. This game is the reason i waited in line for 16 hours for launch day ps3 then when that one broke i rebought a slim.
God of War 3 won't sell consoles. People might be interested in it, but the ones who have the most interest in it are the ones who've been waiting since their purchase of a PS3. They're God of War fans from the previous gen, and consequently have already made their purchase this gen. And it was either an Xbox 360 or a PS3, but they wouldn't have waited until GoW 3 to come out before buying a PS3.
They're the hardcore gamers, and hardcore gamers buy their consoles TODAY, not 3 years later when the game they want finally comes out.
With some good marketing this game will sell by the bucket load.
If you have any interest in games, and you have a few hundred $, I cannot see why you wouldn't get this
Ive been gaming for 20 odd years, uncharted 2 blew me away and I thought it'd be a while before I saw a game come close - well with the footage I have seen alone of this game that has just happened
sony are lining up an absolutely stellar range of games, they are not messing about
I just wanna know what this studio will be working on next! Its by far one of the best studios around! you know there gonna jump right into their next project. I bet somwhere down the line they will make a further back prequel.
I always thought it would be awesome to control Kratos while he was in one of his huge battles with like a Dynasty warriors feel, with thousands of enemies around you.
Preorders are currently at less than 400,000 so not sure how it's going to pull that off. Bad Company 2 has nearly the same amount of preorders for xbox 360 alone.
But it lacks the appeal to be a big system seller, yes it will sell systems, but I am referring to the amount.
Too much blood in this game to appeal to everybody not to mention the number of countries which are going to ban this game.
Also I don't think God of war on the ps2 sold more than 3 million worldwide, considering the number of ps2 vs the numbers of ps3. I am pretty confident it won't sell 2 million on day one. But who knows we will have to wait and see.
ME2 had like 250-300K pre orders a week before and the number rose in the last week... I predict the same surge with GOW3 in the last week to around 500-600K, the game is gonna sell. There are many who go on day 1 to buy a game and the game has won the most anticipated game of 2010 for various sources including VGA.
If UC2 could cross 3.5 million, then I can easily predict the same if not more for GOW3... Not dissing UC2, but GOW3 has a far huge following. Even 4-5 million isn't farfetched for a game this huge.
The crap thing is that Sony is not pulling enough PS3s in the market to meet the demands.... How can you do it Sony!!!??? At a time of GOW3!!! Sony finds different ways of fu*king itself.
judging by pre-orders i'd say it will be lucky if it breaks 1M, maybe 1.5M day one
but thats fine, considering its an exclusive and its first appearance on a this generation, it will do quite well =)
remember, most Sony exclusives have long legs =) This game will reach the numbers you state and even more over time, just like MGS4, LBP, U2...etc...are doing =D
which is cool because I feel this game will be a MUST for any gamer regardless of platform
play this game it will be awesome =) (even if you just rent it)
And busy nit-picking Heavy Rain. D-toids 10/10 review for Deadly Premonition was hysterical, really (I bought the game, it's B movie bad and fun in the same way that Onechanbara was, but it's clearly not perfect). Or writing for IGN opinion pieces on how they just got a PS3 (being entrenched in the gaming industry, you think that they would have gotten around to doing that earlier), or how ME2 is better than UC2.
I'm not siding with either of the console-extremists, just pointing out the Sony bashing ones, as they apply to Al's comment. It's a pretty despicable landscape on either camp of video-game journalism. You still have people harping over RROD on one side (my Jasper elite has held up perfectly well for almost a year now), and on the other, the tired "PS3 has no games" cry (I bought a PS3 two months after launch and have been playing it's remarkable games for over three years now).
It's all so very trite and stale. Everything is recycled and regurgitated, there's so little actual 'news'. And the funny thing is, that outside of our little "core" community, the rest of the world buys games and exists in a sphere completely separate from all of this circular b.s.. (over 80% of 'gamers', according to Nielson.)
I'll still come to N4G to check out the stories, but I think that I'm done posting for a while. The fanboys here and in the media can run the show well enough anyhow.
Peace!
P.S. If anyone else is over this console-war b.s., feel free to PM me, and add me on Live/ PSN. It's alright to have a preference in consoles, but ignoring the core of our hobby - the art, the stimuli, the immersion, the community - is what creates the fanboy persona.
idk man that failure rate is staying with the 360 for ever not to mention theres people like me who didnt even goto microsoft to get my 360 fixed i just went and bought a ps3
much respect to GoW3 and im sure most all PS3 owners will get this title
but to me, gran turismo is going to be the system seller, i know guys that dont like games that much at all but they love GT and i know they are going to get PS3s when it drops
GT is high quality, other developers can try to stick ride it and put a clone on other consoles but they are just unoriginal garbage who just copies others....GT is the real deal and is always amazing i am sooooooooo amped for GT as well as GoW3 + the fact that you just tear a guys head off (Helios) and carry it around gives it that special place in my heart :)
on with the topic subject, after playing the GoW3 demo from 2009 i know this game is a must buy and while not exactly my genre of choice there is no denying this game is a BEAST and worth of the purchase and that i will be getting this instant masterpiece
I love sony, but the only games to me that actually moved some system this gen were MGS4 and Gear of War. I'm sorry, but they even had people from the Land of the Rising Sun buying xbox360. With that said given the history of God or War sales. This game will do just fine.
No other game to me this gen besides Gears and MGS4 really moved system.
I know God of War 3 will be a great experience and will sell large quantities of consoles for Sony. Heck it will sell tons just by it's epic deliverings.
Grand theft auto is in a league of its own in terms of sales, but i do disagree that a game wouldnt sell just because of the M rating in fact the best selling games this Gen have shared the same rating
why are there stupid 360 fanboys in here posting comment about God of war 3, do you need to feel better about buying a piece of crap xbox 360 that you make comments that don't make any sense, why don't you keep your mouth shut and stay out of rooms that have to do with the awesome ps3
They don't have any good articles of their own to post on. Natal lag everyone knows about it and Crackdown 2 delay is anyone surprised? Half of the systems top exclusives this year have been delayed already what is one more on the pile.
I totally agree with EliteAssassin i mean seriously it seems to be a habit of xbox fanboys 2 give every GOW thread a virus...oh is it because GOW3 is literally up on N4G.com every freakin time u look up? is GOW3 the most popular subject on N4G as of lately? Yea thats it..w8 Alan Wake me up where is he? Oh hi Kratos can u please use Alan as a Helios stunt dummy!!
I agree that GoW III will be a big system seller, it will not come close to matching the total number of PS3's that Gran Turismo 5 will sell.
The only franchise that sells more systems than Gran Turismo is the Mario Franchise.
Halo/Final Fantasy/God of War/Zelda don't come even close to the System Seller that is Gran Turismo.
You want to know what is the biggest system seller is. (It's called Variety) and Sony is the only one that seems to know how important that really is.
With some good marketing this game will sell by the bucket load.
If you have any interest in games, and you have a few hundred $, I cannot see why you wouldn't get this
Ive been gaming for 20 odd years, uncharted 2 blew me away and I thought it'd be a while before I saw a game come close - well with the footage I have seen alone of this game that has just happened
sony are lining up an absolutely stellar range of games, they are not messing about
I just wanna know what this studio will be working on next! Its by far one of the best studios around! you know there gonna jump right into their next project. I bet somwhere down the line they will make a further back prequel.
I always thought it would be awesome to control Kratos while he was in one of his huge battles with like a Dynasty warriors feel, with thousands of enemies around you.
If you guys are interested in the latest scans from OPM France, just check this out
http://www.gow3forums.com/v...
GoW3 is guaranted to sell 2-3 million day one!