2009: The Year "Red Ring of Death" Died

It was the single biggest issue that could have destroyed Microsoft's hope of being a strong competitor in the gaming industry. In its early days, the Xbox 360 suffered from a number of technical problems that would render the console useless, many of the issues were identified by a series of red flashing lights on the face of the console, with the three red flashing lights" Red Ring of Death" (RROD) being the most infamous. The situation was so bad back in 2005 that the courts almost ordered a recall of the system. But I've noticed something happening, not many are complaining about Xbox 360's shoddy hardware anymore; in fact the internet is so silent about the issue you could hear a pin drop, and with research after research and poll after poll coming out in favor of Microsoft's console, one must wonder, did the RROD plague that almost destroyed the Xbox 360 die in 2009?

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

"2009: The Year "Red Ring of Death" Died"

oh i'm sure ps3 fans obviously disagree.

[INehalemEXI]

You can't kill that which is already dead. To little to late .....etc. etc.

Merry Christmas

[ssipmraw]

no i agree, its all about E74 now HAHAHAHA

[Traveler]

E74 has never happened to me or any of my friends. It seems to be a relatively rare problem. Probably even rarer than the YLOD.

[Hanif-876]

My friend had a Xbox360 arcade that died on him about two weeks ago with the Jasper chipset. So don't let these website fool you into buying faulty hardware because its gonna come crashing down on you within months or days of after purchase.

[avengers1978]

It's no longer a problem when the 360's stop failing, until then it's still a problem, and what you have to buy one made after march 2009 for this to be true...If yours was made before that then you are still in danger of getting an RRoD. So I guess when it does happen if you rebuy another 360 then your new is alot less likely to fail, so congrates the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th 360 you bought might not fail(this time)

[Swiftfox]

I think the trouble still exists its just dead to the media.

It's been accepted as a truth among consumers that yes the Xbox 360 has a higher rate of failure than normal. It seems common knowledge and there isn't much need to discuss it further.

The 3 year extended warranty on the Xbox 360 that covers the R.R.O.D ,as its called, seems to be enough for most.

[Traveler]

Nah, I think the problem is dead and the media and certain fanboys still try to keep it alive.

[Swiftfox]

To be honest this is the first "article" that I have seen in awhile here at NG4 that has touched on the issue.

I can't say with any certainty that the problem does/doesn't exist anymore but I can say that because of the history of product it does make people alot more shy about trusting the hardware, trouble or no trouble.

[green]

This is a survey that was posted on N4G that a lot of fanboys hold on to
"SquareTrade found that the Xbox 360's failure rate was far higher than its rivals. Some 23.7 percent of those surveyed failed within two years of purchase: 12 percent from the infamous "Red Ring of Death" and 11.7 percent from other problems, including the "E74" error. Both problems are covered by the 360's three-year manufacturer's warranty," http://uk.gamespot.com/news...

This is now another survey posted by the same company covering only consoles sold shortly after the introduction of the jasper unit

"SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death." http://www.vgchartz.com/for...

But you are free to believe whatever news that will help you sleep better.

MERRY CHRISMAS EVERYONE.

[SaberEdge]

Exactly, Green. Thanks for pointing that out.

[3sexty rulzzz]

that maddan Raiders was a die hard 360 fan. I disappeared for a while and when I got back he was bad mouthing microsoft and the xbox 360. somebody that owns a xbox must have whipped his @ss, LOL.

[Anon1974]

The report was released in August, and this only covers warranties through Squaretrade. These numbers are misleading for the simple fact that why, on earth, would anyone pay for Squaretrade's warranties when Microsoft has a 3 year warranty for free? Squaretrade's report would only cover a fraction of the systems out there, and how many of those do you think would actually be older consoles that were the ones prone to rrod?

Far from 2009 being the year that RROD died, in my experience it was the year that the last 360's died. It was in 2009 that the last two 360 owners left that I knew that hadn't yet had a console rrod on them finally experienced their first rrod. That's now 100% of 360 owners I know personally who have had a least one 360 console die on them. It's great that the Jasper boards are better.

That doesn't help the 29 million 360 owners who don't have a Jasper board. This issue is far from over.

[zeeshan]

To be honest, my Jasper is working fine so far. I bought it last March but I don't play it for long. Besides that, I guess the winter season also has a thing or two here. RROD basically occurs because of over-heating. I guess the problem will rise again in the Summer though I hope I am wrong :)

[Crimsonite]

I heard consoles dont rrod that much anymore but instead they create a problem on the screen in the form of I37(or something like that) which is the same problem as rrod just shown in a different way.

[Lifendz]

and I hope MS won't repeat the same mistakes next time.

[BulletToothtony]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Anon1974]

RROD may not be as frequent, but what about E74 errors? If Microsoft just replaced rrod with a new error code they can say to everyone that "RROD is way down and behind us" and not be lying through their teeth like they did back at the beginning when they said the failure rate was about 3% or so.

Where's Squaretrade's numbers on how often their warrantied consoles suffer E74? Do we have a cover up going on?

[vhero]

The problem certainly didn't die! My 360 died this year thanks to RROD its just not as broadcast as much as it used to be as there's no point in keep advertising it over and over is there? 360 fans and owners on here will say different but of course that's normal but after 3 dead 360s I will never get one again.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

I sold my old one to a friend and told him it would break. He wanted it anyways and tt got 2RRoD. It was under warranty so he got a new one. The jasper that I have now is cooler and quieter. If I play installed games on it it stays way cooler than my SliM. Im worried that that will break and Ill have to pay to fix it.

There probably is still rrod problems because there are alot of old 360s. Microsoft should replace broken 360s with jaspers.

[starchild]

I'm sure glad we have radical PS3 fanboys like darkride66 and Saaking to tell us that RROD is still a problem, since I'm sure they'll give us the strait truth and their obvious anti-360 bias won't get in the way of their objectivity at all. /S

Seriously guys, you have an obvious agenda and you would be the last folks on the planet that I would trust on such an issue.

Never mind the fact that your claims directly contradict the most reliable and up to date information, as well as my and my friend's personal experience.

[Anon1974]

You're the one throwing around the fanboy label like it somehow negates valid points. I'm a 360 owner and have been from day one. My 360 was by far my console of choice until multiple instances of hardware failure forced me to play my PS3. Now I prefer my PS3. That's just how it goes sometime. I'm a gamer first and foremost which is why I still play my 360 occassionally. My gamertag's DarkrideHex66. Say hi some time.

I'm happy your friends have had no problems. They are in the majority as most Xbox 360's don't have any problems. Most people don't have diabetes either but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist for others. I'm personally on my forth console and every 360 owner I know personally has had a least one rrod. Maybe you can bury your head in the sand and say "Oh, they're just rabid Sony fans. RROD, despite multiple studies, surveys, retailer reports and court cases, simply doesn't exist."

It really doesn't matter what you have to say because I'm the one on my 4th console. I know it's the most unreliable system I've ever owned, and I know all my friends have had similar experiences with theirs. Whether you choose to accept these truths is irrelevant to those of us who continue to have to deal with pain in the ass 360 failures. The amount of console users affected by this number in the millions.

Microsoft has spent billions on this problem. That's billions, with a B. If you counted to a billion, uninterrupted, it would take close to 32 years. There's confirmation right there that this problem is real. You think Microsoft would just write off billions on a non-issue?

This article is dead wrong. 360 failures are still a huge issue. End of.

[FamilyGuy]

RROD was switched to e74 this year, or did we all forget the rise of e74 as RROD fell? They decided to cover it under their warranty simply because it was the exact same problem and only changed the sign of the failure through firmware update to make the media think RRODs were going away. Good job M$, you're a tricky one. ;)

[Crimsonite]

http://www.obsessable.com/n...

see

its even on their official site

http://support.microsoft.co...

[DJ]

I don't know what that individual was thinking when they wrote that farce.

[SilentNegotiator]

DID NOT FREAKING DISAPPEAR.

What a dumb claim. Dead to the media, maybe.

[edgeofblade]

Let me make it simple for you:

If you are a PS3 fanboy, the 360 has a 99.9% failure rate, and anyone who has a working Xbox must be the .1%, though you aren't sure the Xbox 360 sold even a thousand units so the .1% is even a whole person.

If you are a 360 fanboy, the 360 failure rate within 3 years in 0% because if Microsoft replaces it, it doesn't count.

I'm inclined to believe that more older boxes will fail, Microsoft will still replace them, people will still curse Microsoft's name, and the world will keep on gaming. So, enough with the crusade against the evil capitalist Microsoft.

In the meantime, please tell me of another company that bent over backwards at a more obtuse angle to fix the issue. We are talking BILLIONS spent on replacing MILLIONS of Xboxes. I don't want to whitewash the issue, but people are pretty ungrateful for Microsoft's efforts to deal with this situation. It's about time everyone got over it. Especially anyone whose comment got deleted. I'm sure there was a great reason, and I would have loved to read what you had to say...

[crazyturkey]

might have been almost eradicated on the new consoles, but what about the ones that have been sold prior to this year? They still have that LITTLE problem. New ones have to deal with the infamous E74.

My 360 is still kicking, but I just know its a matter of time before it dies on me and since my warranty has expired I would have to pay to get it repaired which is something that I'm not planing on doing.

[KingKionic]

* Reads article *

yawn....

Merry Christmas !

[3sq]

Just another lie.

[MaximusPrime]

yea true, it has been quiet from September-onward. i wonder why?

[Immortal321]

People just got tired of talking about it, I got tired hearing about it.

[X-Alchemist]

Microsoft sent me a brand new one with the jasper chip set which keeps me happy lol,
They are a lot more reliable then they were say 2 years ago.

oh yeah and @ madiss007
who cares about that sh*t really? just play the damn games and stop doing all this pointless nerdy research. And there are plenty of rpg games for the 360 just look harder they're pretty fun.
Mass effect is a good example and I'm sure the sequel will sell like crazy in the new year, thus proving you wrong about 360 gamers not playing rpg games.. (don't know where you got that from)...

but still why do you guys act like Sony and Microsoft puppets? It's all over this site and it's so childish

[Mo0eY]

2009: The year M$ banned 1 million people
2009: The year of the PS3
2009: The year of no exclusves for Xbox 360
2009: The year of Halo Wars... wait, nevermind.
2009: The year Microsoft price cut their system to match Sony's and failed.
2009: BAM! THERE IT IS!
2009: The year several fanboys came out for Milo
2009: The year of the E-74 error
2009: belongs to Uncharted 2
2009: Whine, whine, whine.

Read 'em and weep, bots.

By the way, 54.2% ( http://consumerist.com/2009...

[Pirateogta]

"2009: The year M$ banned 1 million people"

Yeah, 1 million pirates.

"2009: The year of the PS3"

Not based on software sales, or hardware sales for the majority of the year. One great game (U2) does not make it the year of that console.

"2009: The year of no exclusves for Xbox 360"

Halo Wars, GTA IV: The Lost and Damned, Race Pro, Trials HD, Shadow Complex, Left 4 Dead 2, GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony, Forza Motorsport 3, GTA: Episodes From Liberty City, Halo 3: ODST

"2009: The year of Halo Wars... wait, nevermind."

What are you trying to say about Halo Wars, the real-time strategy game that sold faster than a FPS in development for 5 years (KZ2)?

"2009: The year Microsoft price cut their system to match Sony's and failed."

Sony did a complete redesign of their system and brought it to an all-time low price point. The 360 had already been available at the $300 price point since 2005! All Microsoft did was phase out one of the 360's models and replace it with the Elite. Of course that will barely have any effect in sales compared to a new low price point and complete redesign.

Despite that, the 360 is already outselling the PS3 in the US again! When the 360 got its Arcade unit last fall, it ousold the PS3 for 12 months straight. Apparently, the PS3 Slim could only outsell the 360 for 2 months, despite the 360 apparently having "no games" this year, according to the delusional fanboys.

"2009: BAM! THERE IT IS!"

Right.

"2009: The year several fanboys came out for Milo"

Mmm.

"2009: The year of the E-74 error"

2009, the year of the YLOD.

"2009: belongs to Uncharted 2"

Uncharted 2 is about to lose to Demon's Souls for GameSpot's GOTY. And there are 10 times more people enjoying games such as Halo 3: ODST, MW2 and AC2, since they all violently raped it in sales.

"2009: Whine, whine, whine."

Scrotum.

"Read 'em and weep, bots.

By the way, 54.2% ( http://consumerist.com/2009... "

Ah, the 5,000 person Game Informer survey where every console's failure rate was massively inflated because anyone was able to respond to the survey without even having to prove that they owned the console that they claimed failed on them. Apparently, the PS3 has a 12% failure rate, too?

Let's just ignore all the scientific studies and reliable sources that say the 360's failure rate is at an all-time low and is no longer much of an issue.

[TheTeam06]

Scientific study showed that the Xbox 360 failure rate was at 4%, huh? Oh, you must be talking about the mad scientists working at a warranty company... lmao.

BTW, that was a survey conducted using 2,500 360s and it NEVER claimed that the total failure rate was at 4%. Actually, it totaled up to 23.7%, doubling their PS3 failure rate survey of the same amount of consoles. The "4%" was from people who owned a 360 for a full year in 2009 compared to 2007.

Honestly, I'm not the one to point out 54% on an unreliable survey, but the fact that you go by a survey of even less consoles on an equally unreliable survey is hilarious. The 360 has it's own Wikipedia page dedicated to it's many problem, for god's sake. OMG

And your rant about sales... you go on about software sales like you care what PS3 owners buy, then try to bring up hardware sales knowing that the PS3 outsold the 360 this year. And on top of that, you tried hiding the fact that Uncharted 2 won Game of the Year from most websites and shows by bringing up.... another PS3 exclusive.

I'm still wondering about the scientists comment. True comical genius.

[Mo0eY]

Lots of bots should be happy this year. It was the eye opener for all the little kiddies. They nagged and nagged their mommies to death from September through November only to have the parents finally cave in so they would stop listening to your sickening 12 year old b!tch voice. Now under their little trees sits a PS3 with Uncharted 2, just what all the little botties want.

Merry Christmas, Xbox b!tches. May I never encounter your retardedness on PSN.

[Mo0eY]

Last comment (bots love to eat my bubs :D), and the one that holds the most truth:

Simply put, Xbox 360 owners got tired of their system crashing every three weeks only to send it back in for two to four weeks only to get it back and die again. They just gave up and quit complaining about it. M$ took this as a sign that the RRoD that has plagued them since launch was finally over. However, we al know that all of these complainers are happily enjoying their PS3s right now.

[whitesoxfalife]

i never had to return my 360 at all oh the only time i return a 360 to a store is to uptrade to mw2bundle hmm maybe you try upgrading ya comment

[devilhunterx]

Not even Santa can magically wish away RROD.

[Pistolero]

Not even Santa can magically wish away the utter stupidity of many PS3 fanboys...it's just not possible.

[3sq]

If the PS3fanboys are stupid then the 360fanboys must be brainless.

360fanboys buy faulty hardware, it's brainless. LOL

YOU ARE BRAINLESS BOTS.

[SnukaTheMan]

And a happy new year.

[DelbertGrady]

Reported as off topic.

j/k

[Aleusia]

Deny reality xbots, deny it all day long it's still there. Who approves these pro-360 articles anyway? Probably the same people who approve the sony is doomed ones, yet complain about this place being overrun with sony fans even though this kind of "news" gets approved.

[Aleusia]

It's nice how 4 moronic 360 fans can actually disagree with the truth isn't it?

Take a look at the front page bots..what do you see? "Ps3 exclusives not even in the top 20 in the UK"

Who do you think approved that article? 360 fanboys...you, the same guys who disagreed on my comment..it's a fact.

[DigitalAnalog]

But here in Hong Kong, I keep seeing 360's up for Jasper Chip replacement everytime I go window shopping it's ridiculous.

-End statement

[basicsameh514]

i will like to congrat Microsoft

[starchild]

It's better than what Sony did. Sony 'never' took responsibility for their faulty PS2 hardware. They had to be sued and even then they never took care of those of us with broken PS2s.

[commodore64]

I totally agree, MS is to be congratulated.

In their effort to 'do the right thing' MS has:

- extended the warranty for EVERY 360 BUYER to 3 years.
- allocated 1 BILLION to warranty repairs (and still turned a 360 profit)
- made ongoing revisions to the motherboard/gpu that undeniably have addressed the problem.

Interesting to see all the usual fanboy haters in here, espousing their MS hate and anti 360 agenda in repeated fashion.
Honestly, it's like a broken record.
Sad.

MS has done what it can to openly admit and address the issue.
Here in Australia I can buy a new, very reliable 'arcade 360' for AU$198 that runs AAA games like Bayonetta much better than the competing $499 Ps3 unit.
That is simply amazing for people that just want to play the best games at the least cost with great reliability.
After all, why would one willingly pay more, just to get an inferior AAA experience?

Ultimately, the people that are complaining about the ongoing rrod simply are haters that are living in the past.
Funnily enough, those same haters invariably seem to cling to their hate and their ongoing, oft-repeated 'rrod stories' like drowning rats to floating debris!

Let go of the hate, haters.
While you hate, you are living in the past.
While you live in the past, you cannot be gamers in the present.
You know it's true.

oh.. and mery crismes to EVERYBODY!

[Oner]

^^^

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

1. RRoD which does seem to be subsiding

2. LIVE fees (for a family of 4 gamers LIVE fees are ridiculous imo)

So MS...I'm 1/2 way there now.

Actually I'm wondering...You think MS will drop the fee with NATAL? If you are going to compete for little johnny dollars against the Wii online fees are going to be a barrier for parents to justify. imo.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Oh, only one. YOu dont have a 360 so I wouldnt expect you to know much about it when you bash it.

[Noob]

The RROD issue has ran its course for what, 3 years now? Another Xbox breaking wouldn't surprise anyone at this point because it has occurred so many times. Also, it's not just RROD, there's also disc scratching and E74. My Xbox broke 3 times before they finally "got it right". I'm sure the failure rate is down but when most big games come out on 360, we hear about people having some type of hardware related issue with their Xbox, one usually being RROD.

[PISSIO]

Good Job Microsoft!

[AliTheBrit19]

Merry Christmas! :D

To all fanboys alike ;) enjoy playing on your console of choice, sincerely.

[gamingisnotacrime]

because the failure peak is between 1 year and a half and 2, so i will keep my fingers crossed that my nice Eite Jasper will last me a long time.

[Droid Control]

I had the RRoD twice this year alone!

Got me a super elite bundle with forza 3 and a 250GB HDD! Hope this one works... if not, theres always the slimline next year. lol (Crys)

[TheTeam06]

My friend in the dorm room next to me got RROD in October, and two of my friends from high school got RROD last month. One of them bought a PS3 Slim recently, and the other is saving up for it. Not sure what my dorm neighbor is gonna do, though.

PS: My step bro just texted me literally minutes ago and told me he got a PS3 for Christmas.

[CryWolf]

The RROD problems isn't dead yet cause a lot of people are experiencing RROD problems even in 2009 microsoft makes a new chipset and still people are complaining about it, normally a company would recall a product if to mandy of them are having issues but with a higher failure rate with Microsoft console I'm surprise the FCC haven't said anything about this yet.

[TukkerIntensity]

My 360 has been back 3 times. And they keep sending me back a launch unit that will fail again. Beyond that I know people with new 360s that have failed. Add all the E74 (I have had this once as well) and crappy DVD drive failures and the 360 is still one of the worst made electronic devices around. Good thing the software and network support are so solid.

[CryWolf]

Every year since the xbot launch in 2006 people always talk about RROD or E74 problems and a lot of bots fanboys scene to think Microshit fix this problem but still the 360s scratching discs again bot fanboys claims it was fix along time ago thats bull cause people are still complaining about this all over the world.

[Aleusia]

be fixed because Microsoft doesn't care to fix it, the more systems they have to replace counts as their sales numbers. It shouldn't but it does and the xbots who always mention sales (IE all of them!) will continue to buy into xbox because they really believe it's beating the ps3 in sales when in fact the majority of the so called sales are rebuys after RROD hits the console.

[ll_UNDERSCORE_ll]

That picture of the RROD just looks so evil. Hearing stories on players having issues going through 3-4 consoles after another, damn that sucks. Hardware failure' is somewhat inevitable depending on the product you can have a t.v. for 2yrs or 20yrs, but hearing a large percentage of gamers with the same issue?. This kind of problem should be more advertised to the public if MS hasn't found a solution by now, so new gamers can hopefully make a decision that theres a certain percentage a issue might occur.

[DigitalAnalog]

Either the percentages dropped down or the 360 fanbase has already been immune to such case it doesn't bother as news anymore.

-End statement

[Karum]

I hope so, bought me an Elite not too long ago lol

[KingItachi]

RROD is not dead a friend of mine got it a week ago.

[starchild]

Sure, that makes it not a dead issue./S

Your friend had it so it must be an epidemic. With how many reports I hear on this very site from PS3 owners with broken PS3s I guess we can conclude that the PS3 is suffering an epidemic of hardware failures as well.

[commodore64]

YLOD is on the increase, a friend of mine got it the other week.

see what i did there?

[kewlkat007]

I think it's the falcon or something like that and still have not had issues. I can't imagine the Jasper ones are probably better.

[Domer25]

I don't know what to believe anymore. But, either way, i just hope everyone is enjoying their system of choice. Merry f@cking holidays!

[DigitalHorror81]

The only reason "Red Ring died" is because people wised up and bought a PS3.

[Ace Killa 08]

HA HA HA HA......funny, oh god that almost made me let out a fart. just as almost like your comment a FART

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Far from dead.In fact, i'd say it's getting worse.My friend just got it the other day for the 2nd time.Poor guy

[bjornbear]

this is something that no gamer should wish upon another one =/ be it RROD or YLOD, having ur console break must be a night mare =(

good to see gamers are being relieved of this =)

[DroN4eG]

:D

[DJ]

And one of the reasons it's being outsold by the Wii and 360. Why in the world would anyone want to buy a 360 knowing full well that they had a 1 in 5 chance of having it break down on them.

Even Media Sites like IGN (who have had nearly 30 break down on them) and game developers like Epic Games have complained about the cost of replacing their dead 360 consoles. This goes to show that it's not a small problem, and will never go away.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

dead for about a lil over a year now. The latest consoles are RROD free, I worked in retail during that whole thing and I waited till they fixed the issue to get my 360.

The newer ones are also much more quiet. The units that are breaking now are units purchased before the issue was resolved with the latest Jasper fix. We will continue to see the issue from people who still own these older units. Until they all die off for good, the RROD will be a reality. If you want to end the cycle buy a new one.

[starchild]

I have an early Xbox 360 and in the nearly 4 years I have had I have not had a single problem. I also know people that did have a problem but since having it fixed have not had a problem. Some people with early 360s will have a problem, but I don't think it is accurate to say that all will.

[Justin_bristoe]

i just saw a mushroom cloud down the block this morning.somebody must have tried to put that imported ff13 for ps3 into their xbox

[mfwahwah]

Next article article will be "RRoD Killing More 360s Then Ever Before!"

[creeping judas]

Ive had my day one 360 RROD on me, and my replacement got the E74 error. I returned it to COSTCO both times and got a replacement. Still love the 360!!

If my PS3 would do the same thing (YLOD), then I would do the same.

I love gaming!!!

[NiiGhTx]

So that 4% is pure BS. Try with at least 5,000 or 10,000 Xbox 360s.

This article is BS.

[Britney Spears]

I saw many get the rrod before mw 2 came out. Also it still needs to address E74,disk read errors,disk scratching,disk tray getting stuck.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Every disc I ever seen scratched is a result of the console being moved while playing. Install your games when you get it and even if the disc is scratched it will still play the game.

[ElMotita]

Nope it didnt die this year for me. I just got the effing Red Ring last week on my elite. (thought they were free of red ring). I also had a friend who got it a couple months back. It is still alive and well and a pile of crap. but all tech this generation is apparantly vulnrable because a week before the red ring I got the yellow light of death on my 20 gig launch ps3. Sooooo stupid lets make some reliable products people. Especially sony I expect alot more quality from them since my launch ps2 is still going. This generation is a failure! LOL I dont really think that there are some seriously amazing games that have been released this generation and I love it for that. Hardware failure can be fixed. Just wish they might have spent more time making them reliable. Hopefully the next round will be better. (for the record the ps3 was one year older and I used it more)

[NotSoSilentBob]

RROD is still there but the new Mass negative effect on the 360 is E74 which is just another General Hardware Failure.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I just got the E74 error...again!

[kneon]

Neither the survey nor the claims of "I got RROD x days ago" prove anything. There were also a couple articles claiming that MW2 was causing RROD, again that proves nothing. If you are suddenly using your machine 10 hours a day then the likelihood of failure will increase, regardless of which console you are using.

Bottom line is we really don't know, and we can't really know until the latest chip has been in consumers hands for at least a year or two. If at that time we see few RROD reports then maybe we can declare that the occurrence of the RROD is at acceptable levels. Only time will tell.

And I'd like to nominate this article as having the most heavily moderated comments ever. I don't know what you guys where saying but it couldn't have been very nice :)

[Dsnyder]

I know a guy who works in shipping packages. They get broken Xboxes all the time. Thisnt isnt an issue that microsoft can solve without changing whole console, not just a few chips. With that 3 year warranty of thiers its made it easier on them though.

[starchild]

That's nonsense. The problem was known to be caused by overheating. Now with two smaller and cooler chipsets you are going to tell me that that won't have a positive effect on any possible hardware problems? Riiight.

BTW, I sure hear a lot of reports of people with failed PS3 systems. I guess through hearsay we can conclude that the PS3 is an unreliable piece of junk./s

[acere]

rrod is a problem that no company wants so the got to try to say is over but we all know that we cant trust this generation of xbox model since ther is no guaranty is not going to rrod in the near future,now this is mi opinion i'm a ps3 only user i also own a ds and a uptodate pc.

[HDgamer]

If you want it to die then rebuild the 360

[Neo604]

one Ring to rule them all.

[Claudinho69]

of corse this article came from kotaku

[ape007]

look at all this deleted comments

wtf??

get a life guys,it's not life or death xD

[rezenu]

Hopefully that will be the last of the RROD issues.

[Droid Control]

People are so used to it. They expect it, and like a beaten wife, live quietly with it in silence.

And the 3 year waranty also keeps people quiet.

Mark my words: If M$ retracted the 3 year waranty tomorrow, you would hear MILLIONS of people crying and b!tching again

[Obama]

I call this the battered bots syndrome.

[tripewire]

it has died.

Now we have E74

[Britney Spears]

still needs to address:

E74,disk read errors,disk scratching,disk tray getting stuck.

[SLLCKGT]

So what? So a company knowingly releases a POS console and now were suppose to pat them on the back for slowing down, not getting rid of, the problem after 4 years? Only a xbox owner, or better yet an American, will be ok with such a half assed defective device. The rest of us have standards and class, so for me this isn't even close to being acceptable. As long as I have respect for myself and my money, an xbox will never enter my household. You on the other hand can brag about how you're on your 4th xbox while your friends are on their 5th. This is just as bad as that article calling the 15 GB data missing from FF13 on the 360 a "dubious compromise" sad part is, you're actually ok with the compromise when there shouldn't be one.

[rob6021]

xbox fans defending the rrod is really sad. Just like how they defend pay to pay online. Guys critisize your company if you want it to do better/

[MALVAD0]

RROD is bad
i get 4 times RROD 3 in less than 1 month so i decide to trade all games and accesories i get almoust 1k so i buy my 2nd ps3 and i m happy with it no problems at all well 1 time YROD but for some reason about 1 hour later was good and still running smooth for a year now

RROD only on Xbox360 Jump in

[ktchong]

And Xbox 360 "AAA" exclusives have died with Red Ring of Death.

[DiLeCtioN]

i sent my console a few weeks back hoping to have it fixed, i got it sent back saying "Not Repaired".

i mean wtf man, its there job to fix it yet they dare say i tampered with it, how can i tamper with a console to malfunction? The warranty was extended to 2010 which is kinda weird....

I have nothing against xbox i am even planning to buy an elite after xmas.

[Empire X]

I'm an American and cant stand the 360 so next time please think before you speak.

[Enigma_2099]

... then good for them. Took them long enough...

[DiLeCtioN]

wow at the disagrees, its like i cant own an xbox 360...it becomes a crime here or people dont believe ms refused to fix my xbox?

Anyway i have all 3 so while you fanboys cry in bitterness, i continue to enjoy from all sides. Wii is a bit boring now thoguh...

[The real killer]

"2009: The year M$ banned 1 million people"

"Yeah, 1 million pirates"

Also console mods, to protect there 360 agains overheating

"2009: The year of the PS3"

"Not based on software sales, or hardware sales for the majority of the year. One great game (U2) does not make it the year of that console"

Based on exclusieve games/ the more sales from hardware with higher price point and the PSN upgrade to match LIVE.

"2009: The year of no exclusves for Xbox 360"

"Halo Wars, GTA IV: The Lost and Damned, Race Pro, Trials HD, Shadow Complex, Left 4 Dead 2, GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony, Forza Motorsport 3, GTA: Episodes From Liberty City, Halo 3: ODST"

Halo Wars/ Left for dead 2 and Forza 3 real games.
The rest is all DLC and some arcade games i think.

"2009: The year of Halo Wars... wait, nevermind."

"What are you trying to say about Halo Wars, the real-time strategy game that sold faster than a FPS in development for 5 years (KZ2)?"

Yes the year of the Halo wars, dude are you so dumb? 75% 360 userbase are Halo geek, that's why Halo Wars (RTS FLOP) sells more.

Killzone 2 has no more fans like Halo.

"2009: The year Microsoft price cut their system to match Sony's and failed."

"Sony did a complete redesign of their system and brought it to an all-time low price point. The 360 had already been available at the $300 price point since 2005! All Microsoft did was phase out one of the 360's models and replace it with the Elite. Of course that will barely have any effect in sales compared to a new low price point and complete redesign"

"Despite that, the 360 is already outselling the PS3 in the US again! When the 360 got its Arcade unit last fall, it ousold the PS3 for 12 months straight. Apparently, the PS3 Slim could only outsell the 360 for 2 months, despite the 360 apparently having "no games" this year, according to the delusional fanboys"

You are so wrong, the price cuts from Micrsoft was always desperate move, you can't ignore it.

With 1 Million bans and fails, people buy the same 360 the same consumer, be proud boy.

"2009: BAM! THERE IT IS!"

"Right"

RODD/E74/Scratcing dics and noisy cooler/DVD drive.

"2009: The year several fanboys came out for Milo"

"Mmm"

Fanboys like Milo.

"2009: The year of the E-74 error"

"2009, the year of the YLOD"

Never was and never proof it.

"2009: belongs to Uncharted 2"

"Uncharted 2 is about to lose to Demon's Souls for GameSpot's GOTY. And there are 10 times more people enjoying games such as Halo 3: ODST, MW2 and AC2, since they all violently raped it in sales"

No, this is just a site gife a game award with they tast and opinion, not imported.

Halo 3 ODLC is the only game they have, PS3 owners have more choice about games what the want. Gave fun with Gaylo DLC

"2009: Whine, whine, whine."

"Scrotum"

This noot English if not mistake, mebey you can explain about what it means ?

"Read 'em and weep, bots"

"By the way, 54.2% ( http://consumerist.com/2009... "

This link do not exist, but the 360 hardware is just piece of crap with full of failure.

"Ah, the 5,000 person Game Informer survey where every console's failure rate was massively inflated because anyone was able to respond to the survey without even having to prove that they owned the console that they claimed failed on them. Apparently, the PS3 has a 12% failure rate, too?

Let's just ignore all the scientific studies and reliable sources that say the 360's failure rate is at an all-time low and is no longer much of an issue"

I feel sorry for you.

[SLLCKGT]

@20

Well good for you, so am I, but that doesn't change the fact that 17 million units have been sold in this country.

[DigitalAnalog]

Until this day, it's still not surprising to hear someone getting the RROD, E74, ringed games, etc. But to hear that a PS3 breaks down is pretty big news. Don't believe me, go ahead and talk to your fellow gamer and see their reaction?

-End statement

[Empire X]

@23 I agree with you but maybe you should have worded it differently in your first post. I'm one American like your self that doesn't fall for MS 360 trap. We are not all blind. :o)

[madpuppy]

I got rid of the 360 that Microsoft sent me to replace the E-74 one I sent them. I brought it to Gamestop without taking it out of the box and traded it in for another PS3 for my bedroom. 3 strkes MS and you are OUT (of my life)

[ReBurn]

Seems like so many people want this to still be a problem. Seems rather silly to me. Microsoft screwed up, owned up and put up. Now everyone needs to shut up. That's how I feel about it. It happened. Let's move on.

[ElMotita]

"Seems like so many people want this to still be a problem. Seems rather silly to me. Microsoft screwed up, owned up and put up. Now everyone needs to shut up. That's how I feel about it. It happened. Let's move on."

Try losing your xbox right before family comes in town for christmas and having to have it sent in for a couple of weeks. No I dont want it to be a problem but it truly is one. Your saying "it happend" as if it happened and it's over now. This is not true. Simply extending the warantee and sending out a brownosing apology doenst mean it's over and it's not ok. Waiting 2 or 3 weeks to get a console back you wanted to play with especially with family you see once a year isnt ok and I dont care if they openly brown nose the community with statements like "were sorry" It's rediculous and im mad about it. It's different when it's personal im guessing either you havent had it or you had the bones to drop on a brand new one the day it died. Maybe im wrong but I dont think so because I was annoyed by articles about it until it happened to me.

[madpuppy]

Not until MS gives me back ALL the time I lost waiting for the 3 consoles I shipped to them. Not until they they give me back ALL the Money I lost being an early adopter of the poorly designed 360!

They need to consider the customer more and worry about beating Sony less.

In retrospect, I should have known, Their OS is a poorly designed POS why would the console be any better?

[bewrong666]

wasn't there an article posted here a few months ago (this year) on n4g that the rrod issue already rose to 55% from 33%? now this bold statement came out :P

[Shendow]

How many people have already heard of the RROD? ok theirs why we don't hear about it anymore, old news is boring news.

For the people don't have a 360, they are going to just buy the game on PC -_- well if Microsoft wants to make Windows 7 do good (Not alot of games work with 7, MW2 doesn't) Plus PS3 has so much to offer for free, Microsoft just has over price parts and costly online.

Until Microsoft stops wanting everyones money and start really playing hard ball, I think the 360 will fade away soon and the PC will come back up (Rare but would help 7 some what)

[SLLCKGT]

@24

You're right it came out wrong. When I said the rest of us have standards and class, I meant PS3 owners, not people from other countries.

[jalen247]

I think people simply got tired of talking about RROD. It is so common like brushing your teeth everyday, therefore there is no point bringing it up all the time.

[kasasensei]

"2009: The Year "Red Ring of Death" Died"
Just wrong. I got one 1 month ago.
It was the third.
3 consoles in 2 years.

[KingItachi]

Spin my comments however you like that still does not change the fact that it is not dead.